Finally someone who actually designs things properly. This is so important because the last thing you want is to be distracted with menus and a difficult flow to follow.
Partly thanks to your review, I recently picked up the desktop version. An incredibly versatile synthesizer that is so easy and logical to use despite its complexity. Truly remarkable!
I watched your video, realized that this is the polysynth that I've been searching for a while and directly went to a local shop. Returned to home, played a bit and now watching the video again to get some more tips and tricks. Thank you so much for the clean and smooth review!
I think this is the first time I've seen a new synth that comes in a module version that I kind of would rather the full keyboard. So I'm left kind of wanting both. Cheers to this kind of marketing though(!): Specs, Pics, Vids, Price, no Q's left, no Teasy BS. So, big shout out to ASM for treating us like adults.🤘🏻
3 years after buying the desktop (which is rack mounted in the studio) I picked up the full sized one one the second hand market and it now has pride of place in the studio as well.
was thinkin the same, mon ; ) ...and was thinkin on all the times i thought a complaint about no poly aftertouch was just whining. but now i understand! some synths dropping now, like the roland jupiter x, modal, etc.., but this one is sweet.
what i find amazing is that this is the 1st synth from this company - it sounds good - looks good - v good build quality and has this amazing UI - they really did a good job for a first synth...
It’s 12 June 2024, and I just got an Explorer five days ago. When I first had the idea of getting this one, I thought the user interface was counterintuitive. That was a big no-no; it is definitely more intuitive than the other analog emulation synthesizer I have, the microKorg XL. Furthermore, XL only has 128 patches overall. This one has 10 times that money, and half of them are geared for you to create your own patches.
Weighing in at ~50 mins, this is an astounding review. I'm not sure my trips to the loo were indicative of the length or how excited I got over this synth! The features, the clarity of the layout and the sheer quality of the sound of it have sold me. This is the one Loopster, this is the divorce. This is not some little Pocket Operator you can just explain away. No. Not at all. I and my divorce attorney thank you for (another) awesome review. ;D
No joke, today marks the third time I've watched this review. I've ordered a Hydrasynth and just have to wait about a week for it to be delivered, I sure am excited for it. I'm really grateful for your reviews Loopop as watching them means I have a huge understanding of how to actually use the synth before I even get it. You can bet I'll be watching this again on the day my Hydrasynth arrives, this time with the Hydrasynth sitting on my lap. (desktop version, of course.)
I watched this months ago before I bought the desktop version (you're basically responsible for my buying decision, so thanks!) and was a bit confused about some of the controls. I decided to rewatch this video rather than watching videos of other synths I'm lusting over and so glad I did. Helped me to understand some deeper features I've not been anywhere near yet. You're a great salesman and a great teacher 👍😄👍
@@alphanumeric1529 well, that’s a first, being called a salesman for not saying good things about something (not that the chorus here is bad). But judging from the negative tone comments you’ve been leaving recently, there’s more going on. Some salesman btw since the last one was about a synth I told you not to buy.
I am planning to buy a hydrasynth keyboard, and have been looking at available demos. Yours is the clearest and most calorie-rich exposition of this instrument that I have yet encountered. Also, your voice is easy to listen to, which is no small matter.
The pads on the module are great. Since you can choose the scale, I might make fewer mistakes than I do on the keyboard. One of putting thing about modules and desktops is that they are often mute and you have to trigger them from outside, always. So much thought has gone into these designs, it seems.
Finally a direct method to access complex parameters directly in an easy to understand and well organized fashion . This ethos is bulletproof. And it also sounds focused and pointed towards electronic music folk as a synth first. Also the non cluttered interface is gorgeous! And the choice of the desktop version with shift commands or the keyboard version with direct access to all functionality is a great design choice. Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕🛸☮️💀😉🙏✌️
I own the desktop, but I love coming back to watch this just to remind me how in-depth this is. 43:45 - They added this feature to a recent update! Now you can directly select the parameter you want to modulate, instead of being limited to just selecting the module, and it's a workflow game changer! ASM are killing it with their updates to the HydraSynth!
I have been testing the desktop at a shop here in Berlin for an hour and have found the pads to be unplayable. They are really hard, do not respond at all to tapping. They are not pads but buttons. Therefore velocity response is also terrible. If you play slow, they are fine. Try fast playing, you get lost notes or aching fingers. Sounds amazing though, and can get really experimental. I was hoping that I could use the desktop model and its pads as an improvisation instrument, but with this level of rigidity, the pads are not really stage friendly. However, the hydrasynth may shine when played with the new Launchpad with its poly aftertouch capable pads Edit: I ended up buying the Desktop. I still think the pads are bad. They are more of a help for sound programming than a playing surface. The synth is great though.
So, if you're such a pad lover then but the keyboard version, obviously. Clearly they have invested so much research on the keybed and ribbon strip, just buy that and enjoy.
@@weplaywax yes you need an adapter for midi, sustain and expression pedals, which I have. I am happy with it but then i am not much of a keyboard player. I use the hydrasynth more for sound design and abstract improvisation . Since my first comment here, I have discovered that most presets are deigned with the keyboard in mind and therefore don’t play well with the pads. With a few tweaks, they responded better (less bad) to pads. And then I deleted almost all presets :)
The macro feature where you can tweak a parameter, without it actually changing the sound until you hit the button, is a feature I've never seen on a synth, but I immediately wish all my synths had it. Such a useful little feature for live performance. I don't know yet if I'm going to buy the Hydrasynth, but if I do, that feature is definitely one of the factors drawing me in.
22 pounds-Wow! That is fairly heavy, but holy moly what a machine-some of the patches are quite impressive, and you’ve got to LOVE that ribbon-controller with selectable scales-that is awesome! I noticed that most of the items on your wish-list can be done with firmware updates, so I hope they’re listening! IMHO, the control surface kinda looks like what I imagine it would look like if designed by a 21st century Soviet Union (inside shot of a _’modernized Soyuz capsule’_ comes to mind 🤓). The FX are clearly beyond just functional, esp with use of the side-chaining and mod matrix capabilities, and I love the macro function! I’m heading over to Sweetwater and see if I can pressure them into a good deal! 👍😃
Undeniably an awesome first synth from ASM,the guy i go to at my local music shop bought one and raves about it, presented and expertly reviewed here, thank you loopop.
i also like the little things like having the panic option really close to the home button and near the shift button. small things that count but when notes are stuck, finding the panic button quick is really usefull but there's no need to have it seperate. their solution is really good!
I’ve had loads of synths in my life but sold every single one of them simply because I’m a classical guitarist who needs to spend my time practicing. However this synth sounds so good that if I just have one synth again it has to be this. I’m a massive fan of blade runner and the intro even though just messing sounds unbelievably ambient and ethereal, just like the CS 80. Wow I’m more than impressed.
Wow - what was THAT? And I don't mean the (super interesting) Hypersynth devices but your style of presentation. There's so much trash on UA-cam, but still gems like these. Thank you so much for this impressive demo!
Seems like the synthesis architecture was more than a little inspired by the Waldorf (micro)Q and the Blofeld :) The extensive oscillator mutation capabilities are a fitting extension.
Just got my Hydrasynth in the mail. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk!!! It sounds good. No video does it justice. I'm blown away and I've only touched the presets but it sounds massive.
Probably the most used feature I use personally is the randomize patch function. I've already mapped out over 60 keys to the unique sounds I found using this technique
well only with the 3 first minutes I'm in . poly AT, ribbon, compact and great sound! ..... that flowchart with the buttons is very reminiscent of ensoniq esq-1, which I own and love.
JobimMusic yes, reminded me of ESQ1 also. Reckon this could reach into much of the same sonic territory, be interested in hearing the bit-reduction in more depth
I've never, and I mean never, have been able to use a synthesizer to make music that I'd want to listen to. That is until I watched your tutorial on the Hydrasynth (module). Finally, I can make music that sounds like something someone would want to hear...ok, who am I kidding, no one wants to hear my music, but I can finally make music that I'd want to hear. ;~) Awesome tutorial Loopop.
But-a small design flaw-the power switch is also recessed. So if not connected to a master power switch, it’s a pain every time you want to turn off/on.
@@alanshewitt thing is,put the switch higher on the back, it gets in the way with rackmount. in the front, u can hit it by accident. So i guess recessed was a good compromise. other than that, i wouldn't use that switch and just get a power extension box with a switch.
I just got the module. I'm in love with this synth! Thanks Loopop for the info and all you do. Really helped me get up and running! I also Love the fact that the Hydra comes with a legit printed manual.
I just want to know with the change in the MIDI specification, as to whether it is MPE responsive when MIDIed to something like a Linnstrument or a Roli Seaboard Rise.
Your videos are _immensely_ helpful in my understanding of the gear I have - at least the gear I have that you review so in-depth. I am quite appreciative!
Like all your reviews this one is excellent. One minor thing - the button layout and sound path isn't anything new. My Ensoniq ESQ1 from the early 80's has exactly the same functionality, though obviously a lot older. It also has a signal path with associated buttons and when pressed bring up the configuration for that particular function in the centre screen. In many ways the ESQ1 is very similar being a wavetable synth with 3 wave oscillators, 3 DCA albeit going to a single filter with a further DCA to control the final output. Only 3 x LFOs though... Keep up the great work....
Other synths have them too (Virus Ti, Andy A6) but they're very good here. Imo they should have had 2 separate control sections (2x8 knobs and displays) - move the CV i/o and replace arp / filter controls with a second (individual) control section.
Just got the desktop module. The velocity pressure sensitive pads are very expressive. There is no competition at the price for this synth. Not even sure there is another synth like this at any price. Great sounds and fun interface for learning.
@@maccagrabme thanks for the feedback. Since, I've heard it. Honestly, the Cobalt 8 creates some of the deepest sounds I've ever heard. I've since purchased a Korg Kronos and Korg Wavestate. I heard about the Cobalt 8 after my purchase and I completely immersed by it's deep pulsating sounds. However, my studio is now too large. I appreciate your feedback.
The design and layout of this synth are just perfect in my world. I've ordered the keyboard version of the Hydrasynth. Can't wait until they start shipping! I agree with your opinions on the con side and it really would have been cool to be able to choose a unique patch for the ribbon. Let's hope ASM watched this review and got even more inspired for their future firmware releases. Are you going to get a Hydrasynth for yourself? Thanks for a super great review as usual.
I FINALLY received my Hydrasynth a couple of days ago and am as happy with this synth as I expected. Because I'd watched your video several times, I was able to dive in and start working immediately. That's both a credit to the quality of this video and the smart design of the Hydrasynth! I did come up with a 'trick' that you may find useful. You mention how cool it would be to have the ribbon control access its own multitimbral voice. While I don't expect that to ever be possible (I'm usually wrong when I make predictions) I did find a way to get there via CV. On page 7 in System Setup, you can specify the Control Voltage Source and this can be set to Theremin. Once that's set, I connected the Pitch Out CV to the VCO1 Pitch In on a Minibrute 2S, then the Amp Out on the MB2S to the Mod 1 Input on the Hydrasynth. Then set the Ring Modulation source to Mod 1 and set its depth to zero. Bring up the ring mod level in the mixer and voila! Instant multimbrality with the ribbon controller. Obviously, this will work with any synth that can be controlled via CV. Since the audio is feeding back into the Hydra, you can still pass that signal through the filter/effects etc. It's great! While this works, one disappointment is that I can't figure out a way to use the ribbon controller (in theremin mode) to send midi. I can't find any System Setup option that seems to effect this. I really hope I'm just missing something obvious but I fear I'm not. I desperately would like to use the ribbon to drive other gear without having to jump through some kind of CV hoop. The icing on the cake would be if the ribbon could transmit on its own midi channel. Have the keyboard send to one channel and the ribbon to another and you have an incredibly powerful control for other gear. Please, please, please make this happen in a firmware update. Regardless, the Hydrasynth is a beast but it can be controlled easily. I can't think of a synth (VSTs included) where so much power is so accessible. I expect this will become a classic.
@@loopop I could only find email addresses for 'Sales' and 'Press and Marketing' on their website. I did send this question to those addresses though. If I receive an answer, I'll be sure to post it here.
@@loopop I just figured out that you're absolutely correct. The ribbon can be a mod source and can indeed send midi cc. I realize now that I should have asked the question better. I would like be be able to send midi note data from the ribbon. I still don't see any way that's possible.
This machine almost looks like a hardware form of UVI Falcon, but of course with less endless capabilities. The way you can interact with so many parameters through knobs is really compelling for me. I might pick one up one sunny day. Thank you!
It's happening again! All my favorite channels are reviewing the same synth on the same day! edit: Please hook this up to the digitakt/octatrack in a video if time permits. I would love to hear what that synth sounds like with intentional p-locks.
Fantastic review Dr Loopop, As much an education on sound design as a review. I finally decided to purchase the keyboard version yesterday after 10 months of hand-wringing, this vid sold it. Thank you!
I wouldn't say that the parameter control scheme is all that original or unique. Ensoniq had an almost identical layout on their ESQ-1 and SQ-80 synths. They both lacked the realtime encoders around the display, but the navigation was exactly the same (number of each module type not withstanding). That being said. I've always loved this aspect of the ESQ/SQ design, and I'm super happy to see it implemented in a new product.
the layout is just like on some of the VST instruments I know. its clean and makes sense. These guys made a true NEW synth with modern songwriting and stuffin mind . at least thats what it seems like.
Loopop has the best synth review content on youtube right now. Even better than Sonic State as far as how comprehensive it is. Truly though I'll tell you, BoBeats should be embarrassed. What an absolute clickbait tool he is - generating fluff nothing content by comparison.
@@trancodingertranscodinger387 His fatal flaw in my view is in thinking I like his personality or that I watch synthesizer videos for some face or personality. I do not. I watch them for quality of content and his are basically fluffy advertisements and not much else.
22:11 Amazing. You had 3 different types of noise here, white, pink and brown but maybe there has been an update, because I've seen a demo of the keyboard that had grey, red and violet noise as well, so 6 types at least. I think it was Cuckoo's demo perhaps.
I LOVE it: ribbon controller AND poly aftertouch! I will never understand why more otherwise lovely (and expensive) synths leave these features out. I once bought a roughly used Kurzweil because of the ribbon controller. Hydrasynth seems powerful and innovative, particularly the layers of LFO/PW, but to my ears it lacks basic sonic richness. Oh well. ...PS. as usual, fantastic review.
An important thing to consider is that many presets make the mistake of showing off particular features rather than putting it all together carefully to show off the wonderful sounds the engine can make. And with a video review like this making a patch that does so is not a priority, at least for huge portions of the video. The interface is great, but subtle changes can make a huge difference with so many of the options. There are a million sweet spots...but most are rather small. As I saw one user put it, it still takes time to come to grips with the engine and feel out how to craft whatever sounds you're looking for.
I feel you, that was my original opinion 4 years ago when this was demoed before its release. And I still feel you today... BUT! It sounds better now to me, then it did then. I think I have enough hairy, organic analog mono and poly (except for drums... after all these decades!) So, I'm looking at this again for the quick sound sculpting/programming capabilities and the unabashedly digital sound. Digi plus analog is just a fuller sound pallet, imo, and I'm not a dorf, I actually feel that way from experience, not repeating some forum bs. Lol, but digi's liability has always been the interface. This synth is the product of major synth designer nerds doing it the right way, without idiotic know nothing executives making historically tragic decisions that hobble or destroy entirely instruments that could have made good innovative music for all of us to enjoy Working on the paradigm synth this interface is based on, and heavily tasked fighter jet pilots still rely on, I know this interface is just about as fast as thinking the thing, to making the thing happen in the sound. Bam. I don't know how I'm going to swing it, but Imma give it a shot, somehow, if I live out the year.
The way modulation routing works in this reminds me of the Redsound EleVAta, which (despite plenty of shortcomings that were mostly ironed out with the final firmware - and being obscenely rare) has one of the best UIs of any synth I've ever used. In its case, every control (which isn't quite control-per-function, but close) has a corresponding mod button. Hold the mod button for a parameter down, use the data knob to select the source. Release the button and it flashes, meaning that the corresponding control is now a bipolar mod depth control. Set your mod depth, pres again and it stays lit solid, to indicate that it has modulation assigned. You cna click it any time to change the depth without changing the source, or hold it to change the source without changing the depth. It's actual modulation isn't nearly as deep as the hydrasynth (only 7 or 8 mod sources, and you can't assign multiple sources to a parameter) but for its time it was really forward thining in a lot of ways, and feels closer to modular patching than any other fixed architecture synth I've used. A big part of the appeal the Hydrasynth has for me is that it takes a similar approach, but with the depth that having actual displays and 20 years of technology advancing allows. Still haven't been able to pick one up myself, but hopefully in 2023 (or maybe sooner if I sell some vintage relics I got cheap and don't use enough).
I was torn between the poly d and mono/poly. The answer is: the ASM. 3 completey different machines.. but more notes of polyphony is highest on the priority while looking for the best affordable polyphonic synth. Thanks!
Interesting synthesizer! I hate to say it as I much respect for Moog but buying ASM + Novation Summit + UDO Super 6 all together will cost less than Moog One!
Please google VCO, DCO (NCO) and FPGA. Then you will understand that the Moog One is a dream for analogue enthusiasts and one of a kind with its features. What i mean in short: ---Summit=FPGA=Processor=Virtual Analogue = (also achievable with...) Pc with good synth emulator programm --- Moog One: VCO, no computer involved for the sound generation, as in the 70s and early 80s by most portable synths. Now i need the 7.7k€ please :)))
There is no need for your explanation my friend. I know what all that means. I have playing on vintage synthesizer for 40 years. Just to name what vintage synths I have Prophet t8 Prophet 600 Memory Moog Minimoog Korg trident mk2 and mk1 Etc. My friend I grew up with them and therefore no need Google that.
@@nadersharif wow that is some collection do you make videos as well. Would love to hear some of these synths. Just getting into it and i am way out of my depth with alot of you on here. Loving it though
It's really nice, I wonder however if it's worth for most people to have a fully digital synth (with surgical waveforms) in dedicated hardware form today, when you can do most of the same with software synths like Pigments, Alchemy and all of the U-he stuff for a fraction of the cost. I guess this may be a viable alternative if you are a touring musician however, having a dedicated hardware inspire more confidence than running Logic during a concert, isn't it?
Honestly for me i simply get lost in the depth of software instruments, i need knobs and boundries to be creative, or i just get frustrated, i will get this specificaly because it offers a lot of the possibilities of softsynths, without the need to look at a damn screen
Same here. After working with computers for 35 years, I just hate my main interface to an instrument (besides the keyboard) to be a screen/mouse combination. So uninspiring. Plus the complexity of VST modules (where they throw every possible control onto the screen because it’s just code) creates user interfaces that turn music-making into too much of an intellectual exercise.
i love how loopop goes through all of the features!!!! i like preset demo's but i find it better to hear every little detail :D thanks for the run down
Keep an eye on this company - They have Arturias former product manager Glen Darcy on board who worked on all their recent hardware products including all the 'brutes' ( Mini- / Micro- / Matrix- ), Beat- / Keystep and the Microfreak.
As always, a very detailed review with quick and precise exemples... Kudos I don't know if this synth is the next big thing, but it's the next one on my list for sure !!! The modulation capabilities remind me of the DSI Pro 2 when it came out... The sound itself seems to be pretty different from what we're now used to hear in what I call the battle for fatness :D There seems to be a lot happening in the mids and highs territories, and these filters look amazing... At first, the synth looks so complicated but the workflow looks ideal. Santa will come a little early this year :D
The frequency emphasis and comparative iciness make this synth complementary to the fatter, warmer analog synths you mentioned. The difference in synthesis type (i.e., wavetable) should also help with the sonic territory covered by both in arrangements. I'm still trying to decide between the Hydrasynth Desktop and the Argon 8M, mostly because of the lack of space in my apartment. Clearly, the HS is the more versatile and feature-packed of the two; the A8, the smaller and more immediately euphonious.
FYI, I thought anyone here might want to know this. I just purchased my Hydrasynth Desktop from Sweetwater, have had it only had it 3 days now. I discovered that it now ships with Presets Patches in all 5 Banks (A B C D E). There are not any Empty Banks. Also some seemed to be different than the ones I saw here and on several tutorials on UA-cam. I was curious about this and contacted Ashun Sound Machines Support and they confirmed this. Anyway this Synth is incredible, with 2 more Banks of presets I am just starting to experiment with them all before I start to create my own Presets. Here is their email response: Hello, Yes we have now included 2 more banks and updated the patches as well. Please use the patch manager if you would like to arrange banks differently . You can also refer to our UA-cam channel for more videos on this. Kind regards, Support
With the crazy number of wavetables, plus the mutate and modulation possibilities this thing could end up being the nearest thing to Serum in hardware form.
I have one one. It's astonishing. Sound quality is mind blowing and the build quality is just amazing. 10/10
Finally someone who actually designs things properly. This is so important because the last thing you want is to be distracted with menus and a difficult flow to follow.
Partly thanks to your review, I recently picked up the desktop version. An incredibly versatile synthesizer that is so easy and logical to use despite its complexity. Truly remarkable!
I watched your video, realized that this is the polysynth that I've been searching for a while and directly went to a local shop. Returned to home, played a bit and now watching the video again to get some more tips and tricks. Thank you so much for the clean and smooth review!
When I am looking at new synths I always search for loopop first and I am never disappointed. 😃👍👍
Amen!
9:00 Those notes look AND sound like 4 little ghosts having a conversation about what they did on the weekend.
LoL it's true
Xcellent 👍 I can’t stop chuckling
well put.
They sounded frightened to me, like they might ‘sheet’ themselves at any moment.
Bahahahaha!!!!!
This video convinced me to buy one of these and now I'm watching it again to understand it's features!
I think this is the first time I've seen a new synth that comes in a module version that I kind of would rather the full keyboard. So I'm left kind of wanting both. Cheers to this kind of marketing though(!): Specs, Pics, Vids, Price, no Q's left, no Teasy BS. So, big shout out to ASM for treating us like adults.🤘🏻
3 years after buying the desktop (which is rack mounted in the studio) I picked up the full sized one one the second hand market and it now has pride of place in the studio as well.
It's like they've designed the best UI they could come up with, and then a synth for that UI. And that's awesome IMHO.
was thinkin the same, mon ; ) ...and was thinkin on all the times i thought a complaint about no poly aftertouch was just whining. but now i understand! some synths dropping now, like the roland jupiter x, modal, etc.., but this one is sweet.
what i find amazing is that this is the 1st synth from this company - it sounds good - looks good - v good build quality and has this amazing UI - they really did a good job for a first synth...
@@holygeneration7 user interface :)
It’s 12 June 2024, and I just got an Explorer five days ago. When I first had the idea of getting this one, I thought the user interface was counterintuitive. That was a big no-no; it is definitely more intuitive than the other analog emulation synthesizer I have, the microKorg XL. Furthermore, XL only has 128 patches overall. This one has 10 times that money, and half of them are geared for you to create your own patches.
Masterclass of presentation! All essential, all clear, all interesting!!!
Weighing in at ~50 mins, this is an astounding review. I'm not sure my trips to the loo were indicative of the length or how excited I got over this synth! The features, the clarity of the layout and the sheer quality of the sound of it have sold me. This is the one Loopster, this is the divorce. This is not some little Pocket Operator you can just explain away. No. Not at all. I and my divorce attorney thank you for (another) awesome review. ;D
LaughingBubba you made me laugh ;)
You are such a hero. Thank you, for your in depth reviews and calm soothing presentation.
No joke, today marks the third time I've watched this review. I've ordered a Hydrasynth and just have to wait about a week for it to be delivered, I sure am excited for it.
I'm really grateful for your reviews Loopop as watching them means I have a huge understanding of how to actually use the synth before I even get it. You can bet I'll be watching this again on the day my Hydrasynth arrives, this time with the Hydrasynth sitting on my lap. (desktop version, of course.)
Tell us about it when you get it!
Is it worth getting?
Replaced by the impressive specs of Modwave. Wait for that.
so...one year on, how did it go?
Your reviews are probably the best on the web. Well produced, deep and easy to understand. If I'm researching a synth, I start here.
I watched this months ago before I bought the desktop version (you're basically responsible for my buying decision, so thanks!) and was a bit confused about some of the controls. I decided to rewatch this video rather than watching videos of other synths I'm lusting over and so glad I did. Helped me to understand some deeper features I've not been anywhere near yet. You're a great salesman and a great teacher 👍😄👍
thanks - I prefer not to be seen as a salesman since I try to tell things like they are but I'll take teacher any day :)
@@loopop You're a salesman with classic salesman techniques... dwell on the positive, and blow past the negative. Example from this vid: Chorus.
@@alphanumeric1529 well, that’s a first, being called a salesman for not saying good things about something (not that the chorus here is bad). But judging from the negative tone comments you’ve been leaving recently, there’s more going on. Some salesman btw since the last one was about a synth I told you not to buy.
Great demonstration.... I have the deluxe now and boy is it all in one for me!!!!
This looks terrifyingly brilliant. Finally NOT JUST ANOTHER CLONE.
I am planning to buy a hydrasynth keyboard, and have been looking at available demos. Yours is the clearest and most calorie-rich exposition of this instrument that I have yet encountered. Also, your voice is easy to listen to, which is no small matter.
The pads on the module are great. Since you can choose the scale, I might make fewer mistakes than I do on the keyboard. One of putting thing about modules and desktops is that they are often mute and you have to trigger them from outside, always. So much thought has gone into these designs, it seems.
PHENOMINAL opening tones, reason alone to purchase it, proof it can sound supernaturally analog.
Finally a direct method to access complex parameters directly in an easy to understand and well organized fashion . This ethos is bulletproof. And it also sounds focused and pointed towards electronic music folk as a synth first. Also the non cluttered interface is gorgeous! And the choice of the desktop version with shift commands or the keyboard version with direct access to all functionality is a great design choice. Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕🛸☮️💀😉🙏✌️
I own the desktop, but I love coming back to watch this just to remind me how in-depth this is.
43:45 - They added this feature to a recent update! Now you can directly select the parameter you want to modulate, instead of being limited to just selecting the module, and it's a workflow game changer! ASM are killing it with their updates to the HydraSynth!
I have been testing the desktop at a shop here in Berlin for an hour and have found the pads to be unplayable. They are really hard, do not respond at all to tapping. They are not pads but buttons. Therefore velocity response is also terrible. If you play slow, they are fine. Try fast playing, you get lost notes or aching fingers.
Sounds amazing though, and can get really experimental. I was hoping that I could use the desktop model and its pads as an improvisation instrument, but with this level of rigidity, the pads are not really stage friendly. However, the hydrasynth may shine when played with the new Launchpad with its poly aftertouch capable pads
Edit: I ended up buying the Desktop. I still think the pads are bad. They are more of a help for sound programming than a playing surface. The synth is great though.
I would get a keystep pro which has poly after touch AND sequencer which hydrasynth does not have
@@seek4truth AFAIK, the keystep pro doesn't have polyaftertouch. I bought a CME keyboard.
So, if you're such a pad lover then but the keyboard version, obviously. Clearly they have invested so much research on the keybed and ribbon strip, just buy that and enjoy.
@@weplaywax yes you need an adapter for midi, sustain and expression pedals, which I have. I am happy with it but then i am not much of a keyboard player. I use the hydrasynth more for sound design and abstract improvisation . Since my first comment here, I have discovered that most presets are deigned with the keyboard in mind and therefore don’t play well with the pads. With a few tweaks, they responded better (less bad) to pads. And then I deleted almost all presets :)
Loopop has the best hands in the game. Fight me.
Thanks my friend! There's a reason I don't show my face, I could never beat you on hair
Loopthony Popthano here, best hands in the game
@@loopop and my hands just doesn't have that sensitive yet firm look of yours
And more/loads of knowledge
This video is not sponsored by a handcare cream yet
The macro feature where you can tweak a parameter, without it actually changing the sound until you hit the button, is a feature I've never seen on a synth, but I immediately wish all my synths had it. Such a useful little feature for live performance. I don't know yet if I'm going to buy the Hydrasynth, but if I do, that feature is definitely one of the factors drawing me in.
The Novation peak has this feature.
@@david_read Good to know. The Peak is still on my wishlist, I suppose it might move up a couple of places knowing it has this function.
Dancing O-Scope for poly-after touch was brilliant! Could be a useful training aid for touch training. Great review, as always!
22 pounds-Wow! That is fairly heavy, but holy moly what a machine-some of the patches are quite impressive, and you’ve got to LOVE that ribbon-controller with selectable scales-that is awesome! I noticed that most of the items on your wish-list can be done with firmware updates, so I hope they’re listening!
IMHO, the control surface kinda looks like what I imagine it would look like if designed by a 21st century Soviet Union (inside shot of a _’modernized Soyuz capsule’_ comes to mind 🤓). The FX are clearly beyond just functional, esp with use of the side-chaining and mod matrix capabilities, and I love the macro function! I’m heading over to Sweetwater and see if I can pressure them into a good deal! 👍😃
Undeniably an awesome first synth from ASM,the guy i go to at my local music shop bought one and raves about it, presented and expertly reviewed here, thank you loopop.
The attention to detail here with the user interface is arresting. They really made it a priority.
Any piece of gear that puts LED rings around their encoders is already a step ahead of the rest in my book.
And TWO headphone jacks out front, with their own level control? A+
My thought exactly - they had me with the knob level rings and OLED labels. Everything else seems superb too.
i also like the little things like having the panic option really close to the home button and near the shift button. small things that count but when notes are stuck, finding the panic button quick is really usefull but there's no need to have it seperate. their solution is really good!
And people don't like slavery...fools
Just got mine, just WOW. What a genius synthesizer. Thanks Loopop for your expertise and providing such wicked videos
Every review I've watched so far on this it's there's always been a vangelis vibe in the review. That's a good thing.
@loopop I hope you review the Udo Super 6 when it comes out.
I’ve had loads of synths in my life but sold every single one of them simply because I’m a classical guitarist who needs to spend my time practicing. However this synth sounds so good that if I just have one synth again it has to be this. I’m a massive fan of blade runner and the intro even though just messing sounds unbelievably ambient and ethereal, just like the CS 80. Wow I’m more than impressed.
Wow - what was THAT? And I don't mean the (super interesting) Hypersynth devices but your style of presentation. There's so much trash on UA-cam, but still gems like these. Thank you so much for this impressive demo!
As usual-extremely THOROUGH and useful review! Thanks VERY much-you cover more than anyone else in your reviews!
The little demo at the beginning was very reminiscent of “Blade Runner Blues”
Seems like the synthesis architecture was more than a little inspired by the Waldorf (micro)Q and the Blofeld :) The extensive oscillator mutation capabilities are a fitting extension.
Just got my Hydrasynth in the mail. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk!!! It sounds good. No video does it justice. I'm blown away and I've only touched the presets but it sounds massive.
Probably the most used feature I use personally is the randomize patch function. I've already mapped out over 60 keys to the unique sounds I found using this technique
i have to say. you make the best reviews in the world
well only with the 3 first minutes I'm in . poly AT, ribbon, compact and great sound! ..... that flowchart with the buttons is very reminiscent of ensoniq esq-1, which I own and love.
It took 30 seconds for me!
JobimMusic yes, reminded me of ESQ1 also. Reckon this could reach into much of the same sonic territory, be interested in hearing the bit-reduction in more depth
Reminded me of the V-Synth :-)
Thank you - this video taught me so much - it only took me three years but I feel like I actually know how to use my Hydrasynth now.
Awesome piece of kit, I really hope they update the firmware in a way that lets you do exactly what you are describing around 43:47
I've never, and I mean never, have been able to use a synthesizer to make music that I'd want to listen to. That is until I watched your tutorial on the Hydrasynth (module). Finally, I can make music that sounds like something someone would want to hear...ok, who am I kidding, no one wants to hear my music, but I can finally make music that I'd want to hear. ;~) Awesome tutorial Loopop.
My pleasure - thanks for taking the time to write!
The desktop one has recessed jacks so that you can rack it without needing a blank panel above it.
Indeed, I mention that in the video
@@loopop Serves me right for commenting before watching the whole thing! Love the videos. Keep up the great work.
But-a small design flaw-the power switch is also recessed. So if not connected to a master power switch, it’s a pain every time you want to turn off/on.
@@alanshewitt thing is,put the switch higher on the back, it gets in the way with rackmount. in the front, u can hit it by accident. So i guess recessed was a good compromise.
other than that, i wouldn't use that switch and just get a power extension box with a switch.
They could possibly add a power on/off feature via menus or holding multiple buttons at once in a firmware update
I just got the module. I'm in love with this synth! Thanks Loopop for the info and all you do. Really helped me get up and running! I also Love the fact that the Hydra comes with a legit printed manual.
I just want to know with the change in the MIDI specification, as to whether it is MPE responsive when MIDIed to something like a Linnstrument or a Roli Seaboard Rise.
Superb! Even without the sequencer...Its a perfect fit with the Tempest and the FORCE!!
10:24 According to the manual, activating Theremin mode does reserve 1 voice, so you are then limited to 7 voices on the keyboard.
Your videos are _immensely_ helpful in my understanding of the gear I have - at least the gear I have that you review so in-depth. I am quite appreciative!
8:48 Boy peak and girl peak flirting.
Later:
8:58 The peak family arguing about where to go - park or cafe.
What a fantastic demo!
I just unboxed mine. OMFG. This thing sounds amazing.
Like all your reviews this one is excellent. One minor thing - the button layout and sound path isn't anything new.
My Ensoniq ESQ1 from the early 80's has exactly the same functionality, though obviously a lot older. It also has a signal path with associated buttons and when pressed bring up the configuration for that particular function in the centre screen. In many ways the ESQ1 is very similar being a wavetable synth with 3 wave oscillators, 3 DCA albeit going to a single filter with a further DCA to control the final output. Only 3 x LFOs though...
Keep up the great work....
Gorgeous played introduction and the usual calm and considered explanatory demonstration - thank you…
I'm a real sucker for a good digital synth - this looks fantastic.
Those knobs should be on all synths! Finally someone who makes dynamic knobs!!
Other synths have them too (Virus Ti, Andy A6) but they're very good here.
Imo they should have had 2 separate control sections (2x8 knobs and displays) - move the CV i/o and replace arp / filter controls with a second (individual) control section.
oh my god the mod assignment is so good. like, VST-level easy.
Just got the desktop module. The velocity pressure sensitive pads are very expressive. There is no competition at the price for this synth. Not even sure there is another synth like this at any price. Great sounds and fun interface for learning.
To make lush melodies, chords, and ambient sounds would you recommend the Hydrsynth or a Korg Wavestate? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Cobalt 8 is worth looking at.
@@maccagrabme thanks for the feedback. Since, I've heard it. Honestly, the Cobalt 8 creates some of the deepest sounds I've ever heard. I've since purchased a Korg Kronos and Korg Wavestate. I heard about the Cobalt 8 after my purchase and I completely immersed by it's deep pulsating sounds. However, my studio is now too large. I appreciate your feedback.
The design and layout of this synth are just perfect in my world. I've ordered the keyboard version of the Hydrasynth. Can't wait until they start shipping! I agree with your opinions on the con side and it really would have been cool to be able to choose a unique patch for the ribbon. Let's hope ASM watched this review and got even more inspired for their future firmware releases. Are you going to get a Hydrasynth for yourself? Thanks for a super great review as usual.
It's like somebody built Surge as a hardware synth, and I mean that as the absolute highest praise. This looks so cool.
I said Europa Synth lol
It is like a Vst in a box
I FINALLY received my Hydrasynth a couple of days ago and am as happy with this synth as I expected. Because I'd watched your video several times, I was able to dive in and start working immediately. That's both a credit to the quality of this video and the smart design of the Hydrasynth!
I did come up with a 'trick' that you may find useful. You mention how cool it would be to have the ribbon control access its own multitimbral voice. While I don't expect that to ever be possible (I'm usually wrong when I make predictions) I did find a way to get there via CV.
On page 7 in System Setup, you can specify the Control Voltage Source and this can be set to Theremin. Once that's set, I connected the Pitch Out CV to the VCO1 Pitch In on a Minibrute 2S, then the Amp Out on the MB2S to the Mod 1 Input on the Hydrasynth. Then set the Ring Modulation source to Mod 1 and set its depth to zero. Bring up the ring mod level in the mixer and voila! Instant multimbrality with the ribbon controller. Obviously, this will work with any synth that can be controlled via CV.
Since the audio is feeding back into the Hydra, you can still pass that signal through the filter/effects etc. It's great!
While this works, one disappointment is that I can't figure out a way to use the ribbon controller (in theremin mode) to send midi. I can't find any System Setup option that seems to effect this. I really hope I'm just missing something obvious but I fear I'm not. I desperately would like to use the ribbon to drive other gear without having to jump through some kind of CV hoop. The icing on the cake would be if the ribbon could transmit on its own midi channel. Have the keyboard send to one channel and the ribbon to another and you have an incredibly powerful control for other gear. Please, please, please make this happen in a firmware update.
Regardless, the Hydrasynth is a beast but it can be controlled easily. I can't think of a synth (VSTs included) where so much power is so accessible. I expect this will become a classic.
Nice trick! I'm almost sure I remember the ribbon can output CC but you'd know better, it's been a while. Have you asked the company?
@@loopop I could only find email addresses for 'Sales' and 'Press and Marketing' on their website. I did send this question to those addresses though. If I receive an answer, I'll be sure to post it here.
@@loopop I just figured out that you're absolutely correct. The ribbon can be a mod source and can indeed send midi cc. I realize now that I should have asked the question better. I would like be be able to send midi note data from the ribbon. I still don't see any way that's possible.
you do amazing reviews .. very detailed !! you like the mkbhd of the synth world !!
I just got mine and I love it so much! Thanks for the tip about making polymeters with the LFO step sequencer
You know I think I’m going to treat myself to a Hardware synth in 2020... and Hydrasynth is near the top of the list.
bobafruti i was stuck between this or the dsi rev 2. Went with the rev. Waiting for it to show up now 😭
This machine almost looks like a hardware form of UVI Falcon, but of course with less endless capabilities. The way you can interact with so many parameters through knobs is really compelling for me. I might pick one up one sunny day. Thank you!
It's happening again! All my favorite channels are reviewing the same synth on the same day!
edit: Please hook this up to the digitakt/octatrack in a video if time permits. I would love to hear what that synth sounds like with intentional p-locks.
Fantastic review Dr Loopop, As much an education on sound design as a review. I finally decided to purchase the keyboard version yesterday after 10 months of hand-wringing, this vid sold it. Thank you!
Enjoy!
would love to hear and see some patch design on this.
I wouldn't say that the parameter control scheme is all that original or unique. Ensoniq had an almost identical layout on their ESQ-1 and SQ-80 synths. They both lacked the realtime encoders around the display, but the navigation was exactly the same (number of each module type not withstanding). That being said. I've always loved this aspect of the ESQ/SQ design, and I'm super happy to see it implemented in a new product.
Your idea for modulation is excellent. I hope they do it!
the layout is just like on some of the VST instruments I know. its clean and makes sense. These guys made a true NEW synth with modern songwriting and stuffin mind . at least thats what it seems like.
The GAS is strong with this one...
Loopop and Sonic State provide best synth reviews hands down!
Loopop has the best synth review content on youtube right now. Even better than Sonic State as far as how comprehensive it is. Truly though I'll tell you, BoBeats should be embarrassed. What an absolute clickbait tool he is - generating fluff nothing content by comparison.
Charles Whiley come on! He is also doing great work. Don’t watch him if you don’t like but don’t talk bad. Better suffer in silence.
@@trancodingertranscodinger387 His fatal flaw in my view is in thinking I like his personality or that I watch synthesizer videos for some face or personality. I do not. I watch them for quality of content and his are basically fluffy advertisements and not much else.
22:11 Amazing. You had 3 different types of noise here, white, pink and brown but maybe there has been an update, because I've seen a demo of the keyboard that had grey, red and violet noise as well, so 6 types at least. I think it was Cuckoo's demo perhaps.
I LOVE it: ribbon controller AND poly aftertouch! I will never understand why more otherwise lovely (and expensive) synths leave these features out. I once bought a roughly used Kurzweil because of the ribbon controller. Hydrasynth seems powerful and innovative, particularly the layers of LFO/PW, but to my ears it lacks basic sonic richness. Oh well. ...PS. as usual, fantastic review.
An important thing to consider is that many presets make the mistake of showing off particular features rather than putting it all together carefully to show off the wonderful sounds the engine can make. And with a video review like this making a patch that does so is not a priority, at least for huge portions of the video. The interface is great, but subtle changes can make a huge difference with so many of the options. There are a million sweet spots...but most are rather small. As I saw one user put it, it still takes time to come to grips with the engine and feel out how to craft whatever sounds you're looking for.
I feel you, that was my original opinion 4 years ago when this was demoed before its release. And I still feel you today... BUT! It sounds better now to me, then it did then. I think I have enough hairy, organic analog mono and poly (except for drums... after all these decades!)
So, I'm looking at this again for the quick sound sculpting/programming capabilities and the unabashedly digital sound. Digi plus analog is just a fuller sound pallet, imo, and I'm not a dorf, I actually feel that way from experience, not repeating some forum bs.
Lol, but digi's liability has always been the interface. This synth is the product of major synth designer nerds doing it the right way, without idiotic know nothing executives making historically tragic decisions that hobble or destroy entirely instruments that could have made good innovative music for all of us to enjoy Working on the paradigm synth this interface is based on, and heavily tasked fighter jet pilots still rely on, I know this interface is just about as fast as thinking the thing, to making the thing happen in the sound. Bam. I don't know how I'm going to swing it, but Imma give it a shot, somehow, if I live out the year.
Your in-depth reviews are mega appreciated!
god what i wouldn't give for synths to have a HUD like the ones used in these videos.
The way modulation routing works in this reminds me of the Redsound EleVAta, which (despite plenty of shortcomings that were mostly ironed out with the final firmware - and being obscenely rare) has one of the best UIs of any synth I've ever used. In its case, every control (which isn't quite control-per-function, but close) has a corresponding mod button. Hold the mod button for a parameter down, use the data knob to select the source. Release the button and it flashes, meaning that the corresponding control is now a bipolar mod depth control. Set your mod depth, pres again and it stays lit solid, to indicate that it has modulation assigned. You cna click it any time to change the depth without changing the source, or hold it to change the source without changing the depth.
It's actual modulation isn't nearly as deep as the hydrasynth (only 7 or 8 mod sources, and you can't assign multiple sources to a parameter) but for its time it was really forward thining in a lot of ways, and feels closer to modular patching than any other fixed architecture synth I've used. A big part of the appeal the Hydrasynth has for me is that it takes a similar approach, but with the depth that having actual displays and 20 years of technology advancing allows. Still haven't been able to pick one up myself, but hopefully in 2023 (or maybe sooner if I sell some vintage relics I got cheap and don't use enough).
do the Ribbon and poly aftertouch send midi so you can control other synths?
yes
loopop Manufacturer say anything about supporting MPE controllers? No mention on the product page.
I was torn between the poly d and mono/poly. The answer is: the ASM. 3 completey different machines.. but more notes of polyphony is highest on the priority while looking for the best affordable polyphonic synth. Thanks!
Nice overview. Oddly, the Hydrasynth reminds me of the esq-1/sq80.
Yes, I thought the same. The way the buttons are laid out to give easy access to the settings. A clever design choice.
Wow, this synth is deep and well thought out.
Interesting synthesizer!
I hate to say it as I much respect for Moog but buying ASM + Novation Summit + UDO Super 6 all together will cost less than Moog One!
But were they made by hipsters?
Please google VCO, DCO (NCO) and FPGA. Then you will understand that the Moog One is a dream for analogue enthusiasts and one of a kind with its features.
What i mean in short:
---Summit=FPGA=Processor=Virtual Analogue = (also achievable with...) Pc with good synth emulator programm
--- Moog One: VCO, no computer involved for the sound generation, as in the 70s and early 80s by most portable synths.
Now i need the 7.7k€ please :)))
There is no need for your explanation my friend. I know what all that means.
I have playing on vintage synthesizer for 40 years.
Just to name what vintage synths I have
Prophet t8
Prophet 600
Memory Moog
Minimoog
Korg trident mk2 and mk1
Etc.
My friend I grew up with them and therefore no need Google that.
@@nadersharif yes cool and i should have gone to your youtube channel :D
@@nadersharif wow that is some collection do you make videos as well. Would love to hear some of these synths. Just getting into it and i am way out of my depth with alot of you on here. Loving it though
Excellent review. Thank you. Not having a sequencer is a pro, not a con, in my book. Just bought one...
Agreed - I would not use it if it had one - I control it via MPC
This is the most interesting and innovative synth since ages. I think I gotta have it
9:00 those harmonic as so cute. (Such a simple but effective demo of poly aftertouch)
9:15 Epic Video with the Dancing Ghosts
excellent video. that helps me a lot to choose my new synth. i think i now have found it
It's really nice, I wonder however if it's worth for most people to have a fully digital synth (with surgical waveforms) in dedicated hardware form today, when you can do most of the same with software synths like Pigments, Alchemy and all of the U-he stuff for a fraction of the cost. I guess this may be a viable alternative if you are a touring musician however, having a dedicated hardware inspire more confidence than running Logic during a concert, isn't it?
Honestly for me i simply get lost in the depth of software instruments, i need knobs and boundries to be creative, or i just get frustrated, i will get this specificaly because it offers a lot of the possibilities of softsynths, without the need to look at a damn screen
Same here. After working with computers for 35 years, I just hate my main interface to an instrument (besides the keyboard) to be a screen/mouse combination. So uninspiring. Plus the complexity of VST modules (where they throw every possible control onto the screen because it’s just code) creates user interfaces that turn music-making into too much of an intellectual exercise.
i love how loopop goes through all of the features!!!!
i like preset demo's but i find it better to hear every little detail :D thanks for the run down
Keep an eye on this company - They have Arturias former product manager Glen Darcy on board who worked on all their recent hardware products including all the 'brutes' ( Mini- / Micro- / Matrix- ), Beat- / Keystep and the Microfreak.
Why did he leave? Just to make his own company?
if it has the same durability of arturia hardware this new company has a future problem
@@cnfuzz He designed the stuff, not the build materials and physicsl components. Arturia went cheap like cheapos.
@@fortheloveofnoise yeah i heard concerning stories about matrixbrute too wich isnt exactly budgetsynth
@@cnfuzz so far i never had any issues with arturia hardware - only software related.
Thanks a lot for this clear review and the tips about entering the modulation by pressing the buttons. Merci
As always, a very detailed review with quick and precise exemples... Kudos
I don't know if this synth is the next big thing, but it's the next one on my list for sure !!!
The modulation capabilities remind me of the DSI Pro 2 when it came out... The sound itself seems to be pretty different from what we're now used to hear in what I call the battle for fatness :D There seems to be a lot happening in the mids and highs territories, and these filters look amazing... At first, the synth looks so complicated but the workflow looks ideal.
Santa will come a little early this year :D
The frequency emphasis and comparative iciness make this synth complementary to the fatter, warmer analog synths you mentioned. The difference in synthesis type (i.e., wavetable) should also help with the sonic territory covered by both in arrangements.
I'm still trying to decide between the Hydrasynth Desktop and the Argon 8M, mostly because of the lack of space in my apartment. Clearly, the HS is the more versatile and feature-packed of the two; the A8, the smaller and more immediately euphonious.
Nice! Desktop one can fit the empty slot for poly synth/efx neatly. To the point, while detailed, presentation as always Mr Loopop . TNX
Can you connect a keyboard to the desktop version?
Yeah through the midi in plug in the back
FYI, I thought anyone here might want to know this. I just purchased my Hydrasynth Desktop from Sweetwater, have had it only had it 3 days now. I discovered that it now ships with Presets Patches in all 5 Banks (A B C D E). There are not any Empty Banks. Also some seemed to be different than the ones I saw here and on several tutorials on UA-cam. I was curious about this and contacted Ashun Sound Machines Support and they confirmed this. Anyway this Synth is incredible, with 2 more Banks of presets I am just starting to experiment with them all before I start to create my own Presets. Here is their email response:
Hello,
Yes we have now included 2 more banks and updated the patches as well. Please use the patch manager if you would like to arrange banks differently .
You can also refer to our UA-cam channel for more videos on this.
Kind regards,
Support
With the crazy number of wavetables, plus the mutate and modulation possibilities this thing could end up being the nearest thing to Serum in hardware form.
more like an absynth
@@jacobbrown1690 I'll happily take either.
LOL I was thinking exactly the same!
Great reviews and channel. Trivia fact: for about $800 you can get an Ensoniq SD-1 or VFX-SD that also have poly aftertouch