@@johnbohin3985 In what way was the decision wrong? He led with his shoulder in the tackle to the opponents head, it may seem unfair but it's extremely dangerous.
England had completely cracked Ireland’s game plan, before the refs poor call ruined the game. Unless Ireland have something secret in reserve, it’s now clear how to play them
@@davidpearn2484yes. If you can’t see how we’ll England had disrupted irelands only game plan, you’re not that experienced in understanding rugby games.
@@Macron87 The onus isn't on us to know wtf you're talking about, so why don't you explain how England cracked Ireland? You're making the claim, you should back it up.
But they’re the same set moves they’ve been playing for a few years, England showed how to play against them - before the ref ruined the game. Unless Ireland have been hiding a secret weapon, they’ve been undone
I would agree. Unless Ireland have been hiding something up their sleeves for the past few years, the game plan code has been well and truly cracked. England showed this, in how they completely disrupted Ireland, before the ref decided to ruin the game with something that should’ve been a red card
@@Macron87say that without crying. Ireland well on top of the game prior to the decision. Give up the nonsensical talk unless it’s going to be unbiased 🙄
I'm a leinster supporter. I'm delighted for Rob Herring. Getting into the habit of scoring trys now fair play to him. Like Finlay and now Tom O'Toole, never let you down.
@@ThatsPlunk my point is they don't play for leinster but I'm delighted they are playing well and breaking into the team. Finlay would have been a starter if he hadn't of got injured.
Farrell needs to pack his bag and head back to Mummy. He's done, finished, kaput and long past his use-by date. England were totally dismantled by Ireland and look where they stand in world rankings, #1 and #6.
The ref made the perfect decision. Head injuries are no joke, it’s necessary for the players and the sport to take stuff like this seriously and penalise it hard. Just like Janis said, Steward wasn’t mindful of Keenan. This is not American Football.
@@kajsjoqvist5274 Any reasonable person knows that but you obviously will get a bunch of people copmplaining because they are English or because they feel like Rugby should be a game where people demolish their heads every game
@@ryanmohan3041 I think it is a bit sad that people who don't know much about rugby always seem to think it's a violent and dangerous sport.. Whilst respect and safety are key components of the sport.
Another solid performance by Ireland who look unstoppable at the minute, though to be fair England gave a good account of themselves despite yet another poor campaign. The red card is unfortunate but one hundred percent the right call any day of the week. Steward's got a good record to the best of my knowledge so I expect he'll only be cited for a few weeks but England must sort their contact discipline out as all these stonewall reds are going to cost them at some point.
@@kenrehill8775 I'm guessing you missed the game were they comprehensively demonished France a month back? And also aren't aware that they've been beating New Zealand for fun for years now? They were very clearly the better team for the entire game but the scary thing is they don't even need to be. Ireland are so ahead of the ball on game fitness that they know come fifty five minutes or so they'll still only just be warming up while much less fit teams like England are knackered. At that point they can just score tries for fun. They did the exact same thing to France, which is even more worrying from an England point of view when you realise that France then did the exact same thing against England last week. Are you really going to argue that a team that hasn't had a positive 6N's record in four years and just shifted their biggest ever home lose is any concern to a team that have had a vice grip on the no.1 spot for almost a year now? 🤣
@@Camcolito Bad is a strong word, I agree far from the heights that they can reach and that we've seen against the other teams in the championship but even so being able to play that far from your best and still beat a top 10 world side I think is very solid. Not to mention this is without Ringrose, Beirne, Henderson, Bealham, Kelleher, Keenan (for the second half) etc. Furlong is only just coming back after an extended time out as is Henshaw, Baird is still very green at this level and who knows whether Doris and Sheehan are 100% after the knocks they got against Scotland. These results if anything are good. Ireland for years has been plagued by a fantastic first XV or XXIII that can beat anyone but are only a few injuries to key players or a bad day at the office away from crumbling. Happened in 2019 and 2015 just to name two times. Now we're seeing an Ireland team who probably have the best depth of any team on the planet are are still comfortably beating top teams even while only performing at 50%.
Guys can somebody explain to me why Maro Itoje didn't contest or try to get the ball from the ruck at 7:20 when the Ref called for the other tackler to release .
if NIGEL OWENS was the man in charge that would have been a yellow no mistake! im an IRiSHMAN and even IF it was a red offence which i dont believe it was, for the sake of the game let it go and cite the player afterwards! it has ruined what should have been a clean no questions asked victory for IRELAND! dont get me wrong een the english pundits said it would not have effected the outcome as Ireland would have found that extra gear anyway and won the game but it just puts fuel to the fire for the doubters/nayseyers! anyway well done England on a great performance, you did your country proud, and will be a force in the worldcup! congrats to the BOYS IN GREEN on making history once more and showing the world why we deserve our top ranking!
come on, the rules are simple direct head contact, tucks the shoulder, very high degree of danger and no mitigation absolutely every box ticked for a red card in todays game
@@Dyl158I thought mitigation would be the minimal time he has to react, how he would have to anticipate the knock on and the dip in height of the player, the fact that if he were to try and make a tackle, how he would be able to do that safely given the circumstances - somehow drop lower than the falling player to try and get a safe height? Devil's advocate - it took two players to create the dangerous situation here, you can't tackle with your head first, so why can you run directly into someone with your head first without control?
Idiot. What were you watching Stewart ment to take the player out. The red was the right decision. May b the english will stop all this bully stuff now when they know they won't get away with it. Fair play to the ref. I bet if it was an Irish player sent off ye would be saying it was right decision.
Steward's red card was a clear case of accidental collision whilst bracing for impact. The referee states 'no mitigation' and issued his red card. Sorry Mr Rugby Union, but I disagree and consider this is a clear case for an ORANGE card. Steward had the right to defend himself by bracing against likely injury. The referee's decision was probably made 100% in accordance with the Rugby Union Laws however in this case the Law is an Ass! This unjust situation prejudiced the outcome of the entire game, and possibly the competition. Compare this red card with that of the outrageous Haouas Red Card in the Scotland vs France game where Haouas deliberately head butted the Scottish scrum half and deserves to be banned for rugby for life! Accidental collisions are inevitable and many intermediate cases occur where the referee is bound to choose between issuing a yellow card and a red card. The difference of the impact of these decisions on the entire match is often far to much. Mr Rugby Union - it's time to get your act together before the World Cup and sort out this mess! Dr Ian McFeat Smith
Congratulations to Ireland as they deserved to with The Grand Slam in 2023. All (most) fans want to see a game of rugby with all players on the field of play, with the game finely balanced having F. Steward sent off for an innocuous split second of self-preservation belittles our wonderful game. Such incidents have to be reviewed in real-time to fully appreciate the circumstances of the incident. F. Steward is not a dirty player nor does he play with the intent to injure fellow players. Shame on the officials who under extreme pressure, continue to make bad calls for the game and fans. However, I am delighted for Ireland and many congratulations to all involved in this world-class team. Regards, a devoted (Eng) rugby fan.
if NIGEL OWENS was the man in charge that would have been a yellow no mistake! im an IRiSHMAN and even IF it was a red offence which i dont believe it was, for the sake of the game let it go and cite the player afterwards! it has ruined what should have been a clean no questions asked victory for IRELAND! dont get me wrong een the english pundits said it would not have effected the outcome as Ireland would have found that extra gear anyway and won the game but it just puts fuel to the fire for the doubters/nayseyers! anyway well done England on a great performance, you did your country proud, and will be a force in the worldcup! congrats to the BOYS IN GREEN on making history once more and showing the world why we deserve our top ranking!
its one of those annoying red cards where yeah its a red on paper, there was contact to the head but it seems to come down to each individual refs interpretation of mitigation and even if a TMO advised differently refs on the field have the power to say no that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it so you'd wonder what is the point. Have no doubt another 6N ref wouldn't have given any card there. I don't think reducing red cards is the solution either but I don't have a better one. Perhaps a 20min binning or offering teams an alternative the player who committed the act must go but you have to sub them AND sacrifice 1 other substitute option. It would cause a hindrance to the offending team to not have an extra option to bring on the field but am just throwing out random ideas not sure if that would ever work tbh
Why the self preservation Shit he jumped turned into keenans face contact with the elbow why not stay on the ground and tackle him If that was OK they might as well forget about all the other rules on tackling
@@TerriblyNice_Not I know the rules it’s the defenders responsibility etc.. in real time the coming together of players is fast. It was more of a brace from the full back weren’t malicious, very unfortunate but any contact to the head is a red still very soft. Killing the game
It was unfortunate, but not soft. Peyper's not my favourite ref by a long way but he explained it well. Steward had enough time to react and did so by turning side on to Keenan and bringing his arm in tight. If he had just bent (like you're supposed to) he would have absorbed the impact in a safe manner. Hardly any red card we see these days (maybe 5%) is 'malicious' (indicating intent) so you can't judge it by that, you judge it by the laws on dangerous play.
Like others say…unfortunate but not soft. If players can explain their way out of red card claiming it was an ‘accident’ then more players would be doing this maliciously…it had to be a red card.
A few years ago England fans saying Ireland etc not big physical or good enough and they England were streets ahead going to b best team ever and stay there I called it pure arrogance I'm proved correct! How times have changed 🤔
@@seanmckillen9090 I never said that nor did I ever see any England fan ever saying that... On UA-cam or in REAL life. Most of us know that elite sport goes in peaks and troughs. Ireland are having a peak whilst England rebuild out of a trough. Just like the opposite was true only 4 years ago
@@seanmckillen9090 maybe a lot did but also a lot didn't. I saw a lot of arrogant irishman talking about England but I don't think that every irishman is arrogant. I wouldn't tarnish everyone with the same brush.
Congrats to Ireland. Difficult to see what the fullback could do differently in real time and given the Irish lad bent down. Ruined the game and got overturned.
The Irish team celebrating is funny. Clearly you're playing against 14 players. It's obvious who will win. England got robbed. Refs call was a bit overboard. I don't need to be nice with my comments. I'm just being real in how I saw this game. Hope we can see some fair calls and fair games when it's the RWC.✌️
England scored 3 penalties and a maul try Ireland scored 4 trys and could have had more. England don't have the game to live with a team like Ireland atm they need to score tries and that they cannot
In effect it was. Wales v France 2011 Alan Roland sent off Warburton for being a mountain of muscle stopping a fleeting Vincent Clerke. France won, by a point.
@@kajsjoqvist5274 no, it ruined the game for everyone. If people actually want to see competitive games, then this was ruined for them. History now shows that the referee was wrong for this to be a red card. England had cracked the Irish code, and were disrupting their play. That’s just what Ireland would’ve needed, but the referee took that chance away from Ireland
@@johnbohin3985I've noticed this creeping into English rugby the last few years I think it's a big part of their failure over the last 3 years and why their teams are now failing in the European Cup it's a psychological problem their focus isn't where it needs to be
The red card was a complete joke, ruined what looked like being a unexpected close game! When the referee is wearing a green shirt it’s easy to win, World Cup……South Africa or New Zealand as usual.
Terrible red card decision, spoiled the match. I am sure Ireland would probably have won anyway, but it was completely unnecessary red card. It's well and good looking at a super slow motion replay, but you lose full context of the collision. and The lack of time to react in real time. There was all sorts of confusion just before it, players losing the ball, regaining it, no one was sure what was going on, who was attacking or defending, who was going to pick the ball up, he had no chance to react and was just an accidental collision. Simple as that
The Irish player lost the ball and picked it up again, in that split second you don't know as the England player whether you need to kick it, pick up the ball yourself, or tackle, and he had no time to make that decision.
It was a forward pass also, so technically, Ireland no longer had possession, it was an open ball to contest. So much uncertainty in it. Clearly no intention behind it, yet they have to have some sacrificial victim, because a player got hurt from it. If it is an open contest for the ball, you are expected to not put yourself in harms way also. In real time there is no malice, intention or anything, but in the super slo motion you can easily read anything into it.
It was Steward's responsiblity to not end up in that position which put another player in danger. He could as easily have squared on to tackle as to half jump and put his elbow into him. Unfortunate, but a deserved red card all day, every day.
What you are saying is counter to basic logic, go and look at any, and I mean any rugby training in the last 15 years and you will find something called the tower of power, it might be labelled something else based on the country you are from but its the stance they teach players from minis all the way up to adults. That stance is instinctive in all decent to very good rugby players, it is used to protect yourself in contact. It was simply a rugby accident and didn't even merit a penalty, regardless of who you support or which laws you follow. The ball wasn't in either teams possession as it was thrown forward, so its not as if Stewart targetted the fullback with a shot, if anything he was pulling out of what would have been a tackle, where in all likelihood his shoulder would have hit the full back in the face. Some people are saying the Irish full back should bear responsibility but thats not true either, from minis to adults, you are taught to dive on the loose ball to recover it. Neither training technique is going to be removed, ever, so the responsibility sits with World Rugby and referee education. the only way they'll learn is by falls in coverage.
Agree, it was unfortunate but having watched it back , he led with the shoulder instead of bracing for a normal tackle, people say he had no time, I just watched it over and he had time. High degree of danger and red card.
Never a red card. Bok supporter. World Cup threatens to be a shambles if this continues. Think Jaco Peyper is a good ref but discretion let both of them down
NO, Steward ruined any slime chance england might have had of beating Ireland. He was sneaky in the way he injury the irish player but tried to make it look like he was the innocent one. But he didn't fool the ref.
This is opening the door for diving(like in soccer) . Fifa was found to be corrupt.....now rugby is going the same route. Not saying the ref is corrupt but how is that even a card.? Please note I'm talking to humans not AI.
Absolutely dominated THESE ENGLISH weekend pub players , well deserved red card ... of course always trying to play dirty .Well done to the Irish.. England really have no business playing rugby at this level . They are awful.
What shows to me Steward's guilt was his falling down after contact. How could Keenan head butting his elbow knock him over like that? He just tumbled to the ground. Sometimes, players involved in a deliberate foul try to act innocent and injured. Why didn't he try to tackle Keenan and play it safe? He's by far the bigger man. But he jumped up with an elbow tucked into Keenan's head knowing that play is outlawed. Trying to play it down as a rugby incident is trying to rewrite the rules.
Because he wasn't prepared for contact, if you look at the still shots steward is leaning back trying to protect himself from a kick that didn't occur. The idea that this was some malicious scheme concocted in less than a second is absurd.
@@cazzac4817 well he was running at him and knew contact was likely so to charge in and jump up leading with an elbow to the head is absurd in rugby. It's against the rules and there is the "duty of care". Also, where's the empathy for Keenan? It's all poor Freddie. Okay let's go with there was no malice. I can go with that, but you don't go into contact/challenge with a player, twisting your torso so that youre leading with your forearm at speed. You just don't do it. So just because he didn't mean it he can get away with giving Keenan, who is arguably the player of the tournament, concussion(?) and eliminating him from the rest of the game? That's absurd. Cynical gameplay is all too obvious in English rugby ever since Jones took over and it's still there. Remember the cynical foul play tactics in the English scrum last year? 100s of ex rugby players are suing RFU and others for concussion etc in later life and that is why they're getting rid of head contact in the game. If you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't be playing the game.
@@eamonnmcloughlin129 I disagree with the assessment " he charged in with an elbow" and yes the duty of care point is valid(that's to say ideally he should of tried to safely hold keenan or make a more successful attempt of getting out the way) but to colour steward as a malicious thug trying to illegally contact keenan is just wrong. Watching the slow mo, the stills and the full speed replay, you can see that steward runs in to the area of play from the back field he then slows and as contact is imminent with a falling player, tries to pull back and jump away, this evidenced by a his planted back foot, backwards leaning posture and an upward jump which is only upward due to his forward momentum if he was jumping forward he would've propelled himself much further. As for his side ways posture he has two justifications for this;first there was an outside man producing a 2 vs 1 scenario whereby steward could've been trying to play both secondly keenan attempted or feigned a kick which may have prompted steward to try and shield himself from The ball. I can't take seriously that you belive this incident is part of a campaign on behalf of English rugby to cheat and use foul play and that steward was considering this in situ. The red card is another broader question(relating to brain injuries and how best to prevent them) but painting steward as a malicious actor is an unjustified reach that slanders the integrity of a player and the game. Perhaps we need more stringent regulations on legal ways to carry the ball/pick up the ball to prevent players diving head first without any way to control themselves into lines of large heavy men.
Okay you disagree with my assessment that he charged in with an elbow. His elbow hit Keenans head. He was running at speed = he charged in with an elbow. So you're saying it's legit to have your elbow tucked into the side, twist your torso so you lead with the elbow and jump into a tackle where you hit the opposing player head first? Okayyyy He was running way too fast to begin with in an effort to spoil Irelands game and that is reckless and cynical. He "accidentally" puts himself into harmful contact with another player as if he's entitled to. He's not. So he can't wave his arms all innocent and say I couldn't help it. He could have helped his speed. You can't have 6'5" 110kg players charging around at full tilt without duty of care to the opposition and put it down to a rugby incident when they knock their heads off.
@@eamonnmcloughlin129 I would disagree that he jumped into a tackle by the points explicated earlier he was trying to jump out of the way. He was running at speed to get to the area of play( watch him slow down going from being in the back field to part of the defensive line) but he slows down when he gets there and pulls back with his back foot planted when contact was imminent. he pro actively tried to avoid contact. the only reason keenan hit stewards elbow is because he was falling face first to the ground. If keenan was up right he would've ran around a side ways steward or ran through a backward leaning stewardThis is full speed sport you can't expect steward to slowly jog to the area of play. The standards your setting out are ridiculous. Steward has no idea what precisely is going to occur prior to reaching the active area of play.
Ireland was struggling up until the sending of for me never a sending of yellow at most . But we will see how good are Ireland in the world cup Australia and New Zealand different opposition. They do ruck well and good discipline but that's it the Irish do what the Scots were doing back in the 90s nothing different
Ireland were ahead 10-6 when the shitty red card was given, so all England scores were penalties we gifted them, whereas we had a converted try in the bag. Another card on top of that was curtains for England. Whatever game we've reverted to, it's working well enough to beat the team who hammered you 53-10 the week before. Bon nuit.
Where was the red card for James Ryan clearing out Lewis Ludlums head in a ruck, right in front of Jaco. Horrendous ref and TMO that apparently was watching Netflix at the time!! Ruined the game
The way refs handle the talks with the players, and are respected by the players, it's one of the reasons I love rugby.
But he got it wrong!
@@johnbohin3985 Even if the call was wrong he had no choice. They have the TMO and framework to work with
If they keep making ridiculous calls like this one, that respect will soon be lost
@@johnbohin3985 In what way was the decision wrong? He led with his shoulder in the tackle to the opponents head, it may seem unfair but it's extremely dangerous.
@@xXxWARvetxXx Errr? because the ref came out and said that he got it wrong!
Ireland’s performance has been amazing and convincing for the whole competition.
I hope they will keep in good form and make a big success at the RWC.
England had completely cracked Ireland’s game plan, before the refs poor call ruined the game. Unless Ireland have something secret in reserve, it’s now clear how to play them
@@Macron87really 😅😅😅.
@@davidpearn2484yes. If you can’t see how we’ll England had disrupted irelands only game plan, you’re not that experienced in understanding rugby games.
@@Macron87 The onus isn't on us to know wtf you're talking about, so why don't you explain how England cracked Ireland? You're making the claim, you should back it up.
The Irish set moves are top rugby to watch, great coaching. Well done Ireland!
But they’re the same set moves they’ve been playing for a few years, England showed how to play against them - before the ref ruined the game. Unless Ireland have been hiding a secret weapon, they’ve been undone
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Peter from Germany agrees with the original Peter. UP IRELAND 💚
@@pjotr8890 I ❤️🏉 ; Gaelic Football and Hurling! Greetings from Switzerland
Thanks Peter
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Good man Peter!
" A British Lion".. Ha ha ha, 100 years and they still can't help themselves.
Its wonderful to see ireland get the grand slam all of their games were really good
THE FOUR TRYS WERE WORLD CLASS AND SHEEHANS FROM THE LINE OUT EXTRA SPECIAL ! CHAMPIONS ONWARD AND UPWARD YEEHAH
Bravo to Ireland on an incredible 6 Nations this year…however, the World Cup frightens me a little as an Ireland supported.
I would agree. Unless Ireland have been hiding something up their sleeves for the past few years, the game plan code has been well and truly cracked. England showed this, in how they completely disrupted Ireland, before the ref decided to ruin the game with something that should’ve been a red card
@@Macron87say that without crying. Ireland well on top of the game prior to the decision. Give up the nonsensical talk unless it’s going to be unbiased 🙄
Yeah extended highlights are great and all but have you seen Squidge’s video on this game..? Next level work.
I'm a leinster supporter. I'm delighted for Rob Herring. Getting into the habit of scoring trys now fair play to him. Like Finlay and now Tom O'Toole, never let you down.
The Leinster supporters always have to clarify that they are one before saying anything related to rugby 🤣
@@ThatsPlunk my point is they don't play for leinster but I'm delighted they are playing well and breaking into the team. Finlay would have been a starter if he hadn't of got injured.
Herring is making a habit of scoring against 3 or 4 guys. Still remember his try against NZ. He isn't spectacular but he is so solid
@@wraithoflambeg 100%
Farrell needs to be starting 10 in the world cup, Marcus Smith isn't ready yet imo. Smith as a sub will work just fine.
Farrell needs to pack his bag and head back to Mummy. He's done, finished, kaput and long past his use-by date. England were totally dismantled by Ireland and look where they stand in world rankings, #1 and #6.
England will need to start poaching players by the looks of it
@@mrdunns3338 Farrell is one of England's biggest leaders, talking nonsense mate. The difference he made compared to Smith is night and day.
Grande Irlanda , rugby bellissimo 🤗
Grazie! But we played pretty poorly in this game.
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Ireland hands down deserved the slam but i cant deny that game was not the shellacking we all wanted it to be. England really redeemed themselves
only just realised but steward wasn't even moving when keenan runs into him. strange decision by jaco
Pretty sure keenan headbutted his arm as well right?
Players need to be mindful of fellow player's safety
The ref made the perfect decision. Head injuries are no joke, it’s necessary for the players and the sport to take stuff like this seriously and penalise it hard. Just like Janis said, Steward wasn’t mindful of Keenan. This is not American Football.
@@kajsjoqvist5274 Any reasonable person knows that but you obviously will get a bunch of people copmplaining because they are English or because they feel like Rugby should be a game where people demolish their heads every game
@@ryanmohan3041 I think it is a bit sad that people who don't know much about rugby always seem to think it's a violent and dangerous sport.. Whilst respect and safety are key components of the sport.
10:15 a rather, er, unsavoury moment for the England team mate!
Always nice to get a win over the motherland LLTK
Can the Irish keep up this momentum going into the World Cup? We might just have a new World Cup winner.
Don't get too ahead of yourself bro, Ireland is a great team no doubt... unfortunately the world cup is played against All Blacks and Springboks.
I very much doubt Ireland will do well at the World Cup
@@roba2k2series win 😊
Of to a good start 82 to 8 lol was like a cricket score
Unfortunately they are on the difficult side of the draw but it is still possible that we might have a new winner.
Another solid performance by Ireland who look unstoppable at the minute, though to be fair England gave a good account of themselves despite yet another poor campaign. The red card is unfortunate but one hundred percent the right call any day of the week. Steward's got a good record to the best of my knowledge so I expect he'll only be cited for a few weeks but England must sort their contact discipline out as all these stonewall reds are going to cost them at some point.
Based on the first thirty minutes, I’d say they look very stoppable for the boks, France and ABs.
Out at the quarters
@@kenrehill8775 even though they have a winning record against all 3 of those teams in the last 12 months
@@kenrehill8775 I'm guessing you missed the game were they comprehensively demonished France a month back? And also aren't aware that they've been beating New Zealand for fun for years now?
They were very clearly the better team for the entire game but the scary thing is they don't even need to be. Ireland are so ahead of the ball on game fitness that they know come fifty five minutes or so they'll still only just be warming up while much less fit teams like England are knackered. At that point they can just score tries for fun. They did the exact same thing to France, which is even more worrying from an England point of view when you realise that France then did the exact same thing against England last week. Are you really going to argue that a team that hasn't had a positive 6N's record in four years and just shifted their biggest ever home lose is any concern to a team that have had a vice grip on the no.1 spot for almost a year now? 🤣
Wasn't a solid performance, we were bad. Got the win, that's about it.
@@Camcolito Bad is a strong word, I agree far from the heights that they can reach and that we've seen against the other teams in the championship but even so being able to play that far from your best and still beat a top 10 world side I think is very solid.
Not to mention this is without Ringrose, Beirne, Henderson, Bealham, Kelleher, Keenan (for the second half) etc. Furlong is only just coming back after an extended time out as is Henshaw, Baird is still very green at this level and who knows whether Doris and Sheehan are 100% after the knocks they got against Scotland.
These results if anything are good. Ireland for years has been plagued by a fantastic first XV or XXIII that can beat anyone but are only a few injuries to key players or a bad day at the office away from crumbling. Happened in 2019 and 2015 just to name two times. Now we're seeing an Ireland team who probably have the best depth of any team on the planet are are still comfortably beating top teams even while only performing at 50%.
Guys can somebody explain to me why Maro Itoje didn't contest or try to get the ball from the ruck at 7:20 when the Ref called for the other tackler to release .
if NIGEL OWENS was the man in charge that would have been a yellow no mistake! im an IRiSHMAN and even IF it was a red offence which i dont believe it was, for the sake of the game let it go and cite the player afterwards! it has ruined what should have been a clean no questions asked victory for IRELAND! dont get me wrong een the english pundits said it would not have effected the outcome as Ireland would have found that extra gear anyway and won the game but it just puts fuel to the fire for the doubters/nayseyers! anyway well done England on a great performance, you did your country proud, and will be a force in the worldcup! congrats to the BOYS IN GREEN on making history once more and showing the world why we deserve our top ranking!
come on, the rules are simple direct head contact, tucks the shoulder, very high degree of danger and no mitigation absolutely every box ticked for a red card in todays game
@@Dyl158I thought mitigation would be the minimal time he has to react, how he would have to anticipate the knock on and the dip in height of the player, the fact that if he were to try and make a tackle, how he would be able to do that safely given the circumstances - somehow drop lower than the falling player to try and get a safe height? Devil's advocate - it took two players to create the dangerous situation here, you can't tackle with your head first, so why can you run directly into someone with your head first without control?
Idiot. What were you watching Stewart ment to take the player out. The red was the right decision. May b the english will stop all this bully stuff now when they know they won't get away with it. Fair play to the ref. I bet if it was an Irish player sent off ye would be saying it was right decision.
@@michaelpower4372 you're making the chip on your shoulder very visible with all your anti-English comments.
@@joeboonmusic4004 Oh am i.
Ay umdlalo omuhle🇮🇪 Ireland🔥🔥kodwa iBhokobhoko lizonikhathaza🇿🇦
4th in world 😂
@@irelandontop4267 world cup champions😁
That's ok we like been worried. England worried us look what happened🤭.
4:08 Farrell's reaction lol.
Red card not deserved , love from France
I'm Irish and I agree with you!
@@johnhannahoriordan1354 Ireland deserved their victory but this red card gives a bitter taste
Can Ireland win world cup what youo think guys
Any team in the top 6 can win it this year 💪
Steward's red card was a clear case of accidental collision whilst bracing for impact. The referee states 'no mitigation' and issued his red card. Sorry Mr Rugby Union, but I disagree and consider this is a clear case for an ORANGE card. Steward had the right to defend himself by bracing against likely injury. The referee's decision was probably made 100% in accordance with the Rugby Union Laws however in this case the Law is an Ass! This unjust situation prejudiced the outcome of the entire game, and possibly the competition.
Compare this red card with that of the outrageous Haouas Red Card in the Scotland vs France game where Haouas deliberately head butted the Scottish scrum half and deserves to be banned for rugby for life!
Accidental collisions are inevitable and many intermediate cases occur where the referee is bound to choose between issuing a yellow card and a red card. The difference of the impact of these decisions on the entire match is often far to much. Mr Rugby Union - it's time to get your act together before the World Cup and sort out this mess!
Dr Ian McFeat Smith
Congratulations to Ireland as they deserved to with The Grand Slam in 2023. All (most) fans want to see a game of rugby with all players on the field of play, with the game finely balanced having F. Steward sent off for an innocuous split second of self-preservation belittles our wonderful game. Such incidents have to be reviewed in real-time to fully appreciate the circumstances of the incident. F. Steward is not a dirty player nor does he play with the intent to injure fellow players. Shame on the officials who under extreme pressure, continue to make bad calls for the game and fans. However, I am delighted for Ireland and many congratulations to all involved in this world-class team. Regards, a devoted (Eng) rugby fan.
if NIGEL OWENS was the man in charge that would have been a yellow no mistake! im an IRiSHMAN and even IF it was a red offence which i dont believe it was, for the sake of the game let it go and cite the player afterwards! it has ruined what should have been a clean no questions asked victory for IRELAND! dont get me wrong een the english pundits said it would not have effected the outcome as Ireland would have found that extra gear anyway and won the game but it just puts fuel to the fire for the doubters/nayseyers! anyway well done England on a great performance, you did your country proud, and will be a force in the worldcup! congrats to the BOYS IN GREEN on making history once more and showing the world why we deserve our top ranking!
Completely agree with your comments. Any chance we can have Andy Farrell and Stuart Lancaster back please?
@user-dz4df5im9 It was totally a fair red card
its one of those annoying red cards where yeah its a red on paper, there was contact to the head but it seems to come down to each individual refs interpretation of mitigation and even if a TMO advised differently refs on the field have the power to say no that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it so you'd wonder what is the point. Have no doubt another 6N ref wouldn't have given any card there. I don't think reducing red cards is the solution either but I don't have a better one. Perhaps a 20min binning or offering teams an alternative the player who committed the act must go but you have to sub them AND sacrifice 1 other substitute option. It would cause a hindrance to the offending team to not have an extra option to bring on the field but am just throwing out random ideas not sure if that would ever work tbh
Why the self preservation
Shit he jumped turned into keenans face contact with the elbow why not stay on the ground and tackle him
If that was OK they might as well forget about all the other rules on tackling
As an Irish supporter that red card was soft
It wasn't. Not if you know the rules.
Keep licking their behind if you want, they still won’t like you
@@TerriblyNice_Not I know the rules it’s the defenders responsibility etc.. in real time the coming together of players is fast. It was more of a brace from the full back weren’t malicious, very unfortunate but any contact to the head is a red still very soft. Killing the game
It was unfortunate, but not soft. Peyper's not my favourite ref by a long way but he explained it well. Steward had enough time to react and did so by turning side on to Keenan and bringing his arm in tight. If he had just bent (like you're supposed to) he would have absorbed the impact in a safe manner. Hardly any red card we see these days (maybe 5%) is 'malicious' (indicating intent) so you can't judge it by that, you judge it by the laws on dangerous play.
Like others say…unfortunate but not soft. If players can explain their way out of red card claiming it was an ‘accident’ then more players would be doing this maliciously…it had to be a red card.
My man Jaco Peyper doesn't play 😂😂prrrrriiii Red Card OOOOOOUTTT! 👀😂
Great Ireland!
Toast to Ireland 🇮🇪
Good Rugby from Irland , England have lots to do...
Ireland 🇨🇮🏆
A few years ago England fans saying Ireland etc not big physical or good enough and they England were streets ahead going to b best team ever and stay there I called it pure arrogance I'm proved correct! How times have changed 🤔
I'm an England fan and I never said that.
@@pablo19136 a lot of fans not all including Owen Farrell were very confident but it's ficul can change very quickly.
@@seanmckillen9090 I never said that nor did I ever see any England fan ever saying that... On UA-cam or in REAL life. Most of us know that elite sport goes in peaks and troughs. Ireland are having a peak whilst England rebuild out of a trough. Just like the opposite was true only 4 years ago
@@seanmckillen9090 maybe a lot did but also a lot didn't. I saw a lot of arrogant irishman talking about England but I don't think that every irishman is arrogant. I wouldn't tarnish everyone with the same brush.
@@pablo19136 fair enough point I was making it can change very quickly in high level sports.
Will we see a world cup game without any cards?
No. And don't think we ever have, to the best of my recollection.
We will see at least a semi or the final decided by a red card.
Why is the video showing players running back after scoring a try and players running off at halftime/fulltime. Show more rugby.
Congrats to Ireland. Difficult to see what the fullback could do differently in real time and given the Irish lad bent down. Ruined the game and got overturned.
Coming the Rugby World Cup is a different chapter. All Blacks Springboks n Assuies n France.top 4.
4:36 What does he sayyyyyy?
What a Day but you could see cracks
Reffs have shat the bed
The Irish team celebrating is funny. Clearly you're playing against 14 players. It's obvious who will win. England got robbed. Refs call was a bit overboard. I don't need to be nice with my comments. I'm just being real in how I saw this game. Hope we can see some fair calls and fair games when it's the RWC.✌️
I don't think any of the Irish players told steward to foul their player. He made his own silly choice and was rightly send of.
England scored 3 penalties and a maul try Ireland scored 4 trys and could have had more. England don't have the game to live with a team like Ireland atm they need to score tries and that they cannot
Fiji 😂
Congratulations to Ireland! Deserved 6 Nations champions! The Red spoiled the game, though. Can you even imagine the RWC being decided by such a card?
Maybe spoiled this game for England, but its good for the sport to be serious about dangerous head-injuring tackles.
In effect it was. Wales v France 2011 Alan Roland sent off Warburton for being a mountain of muscle stopping a fleeting Vincent Clerke. France won, by a point.
@@kajsjoqvist5274 no, it ruined the game for everyone. If people actually want to see competitive games, then this was ruined for them. History now shows that the referee was wrong for this to be a red card. England had cracked the Irish code, and were disrupting their play. That’s just what Ireland would’ve needed, but the referee took that chance away from Ireland
@@Macron87 😂😂😂😂
The red card was fair for Stewart
Congratulations to Jonny Sexton
I just wish england wouldn't celebrate a penalty as if they've just won the world Cup.
This also annoyed me a lot.
When you're a rebuilding team under a new coach you're going to celebrate the victories around the pitch.
You've never played rugby, have you?
I don't understand it is it about expectations being so low that anything is celebrated like a win
@@johnbohin3985I've noticed this creeping into English rugby the last few years I think it's a big part of their failure over the last 3 years and why their teams are now failing in the European Cup it's a psychological problem their focus isn't where it needs to be
Many 'friendly fire' injuries to try scorers.
The red card was a complete joke, ruined what looked like being a unexpected close game! When the referee is wearing a green shirt it’s easy to win, World Cup……South Africa or New Zealand as usual.
Great play Ireland, anyone who defeat england deserve praise
Terrible red card decision, spoiled the match. I am sure Ireland would probably have won anyway, but it was completely unnecessary red card. It's well and good looking at a super slow motion replay, but you lose full context of the collision. and The lack of time to react in real time. There was all sorts of confusion just before it, players losing the ball, regaining it, no one was sure what was going on, who was attacking or defending, who was going to pick the ball up, he had no chance to react and was just an accidental collision. Simple as that
The Irish player lost the ball and picked it up again, in that split second you don't know as the England player whether you need to kick it, pick up the ball yourself, or tackle, and he had no time to make that decision.
It was a forward pass also, so technically, Ireland no longer had possession, it was an open ball to contest. So much uncertainty in it. Clearly no intention behind it, yet they have to have some sacrificial victim, because a player got hurt from it. If it is an open contest for the ball, you are expected to not put yourself in harms way also. In real time there is no malice, intention or anything, but in the super slo motion you can easily read anything into it.
Are you replying to your own comments?
Accidental my ass. The English player ment to clatter the irish player. It was no accident. The ref was right to show the red.
Where is the other red card? The heading clearly states 'Red Cards'. I could have sworn it was one red card?
It was Steward's responsiblity to not end up in that position which put another player in danger. He could as easily have squared on to tackle as to half jump and put his elbow into him. Unfortunate, but a deserved red card all day, every day.
'responsibility' what to not track the ball?
What you are saying is counter to basic logic, go and look at any, and I mean any rugby training in the last 15 years and you will find something called the tower of power, it might be labelled something else based on the country you are from but its the stance they teach players from minis all the way up to adults. That stance is instinctive in all decent to very good rugby players, it is used to protect yourself in contact.
It was simply a rugby accident and didn't even merit a penalty, regardless of who you support or which laws you follow. The ball wasn't in either teams possession as it was thrown forward, so its not as if Stewart targetted the fullback with a shot, if anything he was pulling out of what would have been a tackle, where in all likelihood his shoulder would have hit the full back in the face.
Some people are saying the Irish full back should bear responsibility but thats not true either, from minis to adults, you are taught to dive on the loose ball to recover it.
Neither training technique is going to be removed, ever, so the responsibility sits with World Rugby and referee education. the only way they'll learn is by falls in coverage.
Irish will win play with irish its not joke dont belive go and try hard i know irish very well
Probably the best over the six nations but for me nothing special
jonkers is the worlds worst tmo & refs should ignore him
Respect the officials please
The red card was well deserved how is this a debate?
Agree, it was unfortunate but having watched it back , he led with the shoulder instead of bracing for a normal tackle, people say he had no time, I just watched it over and he had time. High degree of danger and red card.
Bro you don’t have time to adjust your body like that, if tried to stay square the player gets a chest to the head instead. Yellow at best
Completely agree
@@LanceODoherty5905 He adjusted his body into that position, it was his responsiblity not to be in that situation. Red card. All day every day.
@@TerriblyNice_Not he did that to brace himself of contact from the ball carrier, i hear you but it’s instinct to protect yourself of contact
not spek good inglesh bot arland did grayt wel dun.
No way was that a red card, and I'm Irish saying this
Never a red card. Bok supporter. World Cup threatens to be a shambles if this continues. Think Jaco Peyper is a good ref but discretion let both of them down
Stopped reading ur comment when u said bok supporter🤣 still angry about that game 4 or 5 month ago
Don't go to the world cup so. England are a dirty side any how allways have been.
@@paulinemockler3736 you're probably that cringe person who gets avoided at the pub as soon as they walk through the doors.
Red card no diubth
The red card was the wrong call and ultimately ruined the game
NO, Steward ruined any slime chance england might have had of beating Ireland. He was sneaky in the way he injury the irish player but tried to make it look like he was the innocent one. But he didn't fool the ref.
This is opening the door for diving(like in soccer) . Fifa was found to be corrupt.....now rugby is going the same route. Not saying the ref is corrupt but how is that even a card.? Please note I'm talking to humans not AI.
Thanks for brief highlights.
Stopped watching after red card...
Owen Farrell is a ten, not a 12.
Stop this smith and ford combo.
agreed, it's nonsense
New rugby World champion this year mark my words!!
If they get out of the quarters, maybe
Stopped watching when Steward got the red card. Ridiculous.
As a neutral fan that red card was a bit soft
Edward please our discipline stinks please come home to England. We need you.
Absolutely dominated THESE ENGLISH weekend pub players , well deserved red card ... of course always trying to play dirty .Well done to the Irish.. England really have no business playing rugby at this level . They are awful.
And now in 2024, England beat Ireland. Times change.
Surprisingly you did not select Lowe's try against France
Dive
Wounded English getting hammered once again😅😅😅😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
And now in 2024 England beat Ireland.
pass forward, no way for Steward to move out of the way, it's a fucking joke
What shows to me Steward's guilt was his falling down after contact. How could Keenan head butting his elbow knock him over like that? He just tumbled to the ground. Sometimes, players involved in a deliberate foul try to act innocent and injured. Why didn't he try to tackle Keenan and play it safe? He's by far the bigger man. But he jumped up with an elbow tucked into Keenan's head knowing that play is outlawed.
Trying to play it down as a rugby incident is trying to rewrite the rules.
Because he wasn't prepared for contact, if you look at the still shots steward is leaning back trying to protect himself from a kick that didn't occur. The idea that this was some malicious scheme concocted in less than a second is absurd.
@@cazzac4817 well he was running at him and knew contact was likely so to charge in and jump up leading with an elbow to the head is absurd in rugby. It's against the rules and there is the "duty of care". Also, where's the empathy for Keenan? It's all poor Freddie. Okay let's go with there was no malice. I can go with that, but you don't go into contact/challenge with a player, twisting your torso so that youre leading with your forearm at speed. You just don't do it. So just because he didn't mean it he can get away with giving Keenan, who is arguably the player of the tournament, concussion(?) and eliminating him from the rest of the game? That's absurd. Cynical gameplay is all too obvious in English rugby ever since Jones took over and it's still there. Remember the cynical foul play tactics in the English scrum last year? 100s of ex rugby players are suing RFU and others for concussion etc in later life and that is why they're getting rid of head contact in the game. If you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't be playing the game.
@@eamonnmcloughlin129 I disagree with the assessment " he charged in with an elbow" and yes the duty of care point is valid(that's to say ideally he should of tried to safely hold keenan or make a more successful attempt of getting out the way) but to colour steward as a malicious thug trying to illegally contact keenan is just wrong. Watching the slow mo, the stills and the full speed replay, you can see that steward runs in to the area of play from the back field he then slows and as contact is imminent with a falling player, tries to pull back and jump away, this evidenced by a his planted back foot, backwards leaning posture and an upward jump which is only upward due to his forward momentum if he was jumping forward he would've propelled himself much further. As for his side ways posture he has two justifications for this;first there was an outside man producing a 2 vs 1 scenario whereby steward could've been trying to play both secondly keenan attempted or feigned a kick which may have prompted steward to try and shield himself from The ball. I can't take seriously that you belive this incident is part of a campaign on behalf of English rugby to cheat and use foul play and that steward was considering this in situ. The red card is another broader question(relating to brain injuries and how best to prevent them) but painting steward as a malicious actor is an unjustified reach that slanders the integrity of a player and the game. Perhaps we need more stringent regulations on legal ways to carry the ball/pick up the ball to prevent players diving head first without any way to control themselves into lines of large heavy men.
Okay you disagree with my assessment that he charged in with an elbow. His elbow hit Keenans head. He was running at speed = he charged in with an elbow.
So you're saying it's legit to have your elbow tucked into the side, twist your torso so you lead with the elbow and jump into a tackle where you hit the opposing player head first?
Okayyyy
He was running way too fast to begin with in an effort to spoil Irelands game and that is reckless and cynical. He "accidentally" puts himself into harmful contact with another player as if he's entitled to. He's not. So he can't wave his arms all innocent and say I couldn't help it. He could have helped his speed. You can't have 6'5" 110kg players charging around at full tilt without duty of care to the opposition and put it down to a rugby incident when they knock their heads off.
@@eamonnmcloughlin129 I would disagree that he jumped into a tackle by the points explicated earlier he was trying to jump out of the way. He was running at speed to get to the area of play( watch him slow down going from being in the back field to part of the defensive line) but he slows down when he gets there and pulls back with his back foot planted when contact was imminent. he pro actively tried to avoid contact. the only reason keenan hit stewards elbow is because he was falling face first to the ground. If keenan was up right he would've ran around a side ways steward or ran through a backward leaning stewardThis is full speed sport you can't expect steward to slowly jog to the area of play. The standards your setting out are ridiculous. Steward has no idea what precisely is going to occur prior to reaching the active area of play.
Ireland was struggling up until the sending of for me never a sending of yellow at most .
But we will see how good are Ireland in the world cup Australia and New Zealand different opposition.
They do ruck well and good discipline but that's it the Irish do what the Scots were doing back in the 90s nothing different
We did see how good ireland were against the Southern Hemisphere teams.
The beat Nz twice in nz last year. And beat s Africa and Australia also.
Scotland in the 1990s never beat New Zealand 5 times in 8 attempts or got to number 1 in the world rankings and stayed there for a whole year
Ireland were ahead 10-6 when the shitty red card was given, so all England scores were penalties we gifted them, whereas we had a converted try in the bag. Another card on top of that was curtains for England. Whatever game we've reverted to, it's working well enough to beat the team who hammered you 53-10 the week before. Bon nuit.
Where was the red card for James Ryan clearing out Lewis Ludlums head in a ruck, right in front of Jaco. Horrendous ref and TMO that apparently was watching Netflix at the time!! Ruined the game
Make a video
In your imagination
I used to have to watch this on the English channels rather than the Irish. Mainly because the commentators voice is annoying