This scene is great! My only question is why is this dude giving the speech? It’s Stormtrooper 5. If Ulder survived he should have been the one doing this, this guy should only be there if he died or something. Nitpicking, I know but, it’s the same as if a random Stormtrooper was giving a speech.!
i played with a randomly created face for my character who looked EXACTLY like this guy (which I didn't know of course). Was so suprised when my Tav suddenly got shorter and started to hold that speech. until my actual Tav came through the door, meeting his twin brother and I realized the game had tricked me
I thought the exact same thing! Like it’s kind of weird that Random Fist #5 is giving such a major speech, I could see him being there as a failsafe if Ulder is unavailable but otherwise it should have been him.
@@karlwittenburg5868 man larian doesn't care about making it easier on the code they have like so many fallback characters and fallbacks for those and stuff i dont think itd be too hard for them to figure out
Dame Aylin and Isobel never showed up for me even though they said they would in the journal. This happened in two radically different playthroughs. The kuotuoa did not show as well and should have. Anyway, didn’t end up up summoning because I didn’t want anyone to die. I’m glad I can see Aylin and Isobel on this video, at least.
@@simon-vh7pk I did, both times. So what happens is that I do the quest, Aylin does some extreme WWF move on Lorroakan to finish things up and then says she wants to rest. We speak again in camp and then I think they say something about selunites (i don't know if I made this up) and disappear from camp. I assume "ok, they said they'll be there so they will". They never show up. The journal still says they both pinky-promised to be there.
You can actually have it all. If Gale & Lae'zel are in your party, when you go to free Orpheus, you can take the Supreme Tadpole from the Emperor but tell him you'll use it later, then tell Lae'zel you won't let the Emperor destroy Orpheus if it means that much to her. The Emperor flies off to join the Netherbrain. Tell Orpheus that you trust in Gale. Nobody becomes a mindflayer! If you play as Gale Origin, yourself, you can become the mindflayer, but Mystra will restore your human soul & body, if you agree to come with her to Elysium (neutral good Heaven).
To be fair, he had been violating Orpheus pretty heavily and planned on either eating him or feeding him to you/Karlach, and only advocated against hijacking the Absolute because he was concerned about pissing off the Githyanki Empire. I could see Orpheus wanting his head and not taking no for an answer.
To me the Emperor is the most evil guy out there m. He killed Ansur, threatened me into forcing me to become i Mind Flayer if i kept refusing to become one and turning against me at the end because i feed Orpheus. The Emperor is a Jero.
There are a few missing in this video as they dont show up in the cutscene. The Kuo-toa in the underdark can be summoned if you exposed their false god correctly. Also, Mizora will agree to help you in this fight out of revenge for them messing with her in Act 2, both of which are easily obtained in a "good" play. Also, I am not sure helping the Ox is a "good" play thing, the images of untold numbers of disfigured bodies and screams should have been the first clue. The second is that Zlorb is an Evil aligned Ooblex follower of Cyric (chaotic evil god of trickery and chaos) who plagued the western heartlands and Baldur's Gate specifically, so I am pretty sure helping him into the city is consigning many to their death. The third is when, in Act three, he praises the bloodshed and thanks you for helping commit more wonderful murders in Act 3 final fight, including praising Cyric. Because Cyric is the evil god of madness and trickery, we will never know whether Zlorb was trying to make a earnest attempt to start anew or lying, as per his god, all the while. What we DO know is that Zlorb murdered and feasted on untold numbers of Reithwin people during Ketheric's time (recall Reithwin was a haven Selune worshipers before the Shadow Curse, and is situated between Elturel and Baldurs Gate. Moonrise is presumed to be just under the C in "River Chionthar" on the north bank on the FR map, and the Crash site just to the west of Fort Morninglord), and suddenly decided to join a group of refugees fleeing Elturel and headed for Baldurs Gate. And whether he was lying or relapsed into his old ways, its clear that the PC helped a murdering Ooblex who praises a god whos domains are 'chaos, destruction, evil, illusion, and trickery' into a refugee fat city to (probably) kept doing what he did to the Reithwin people. Otherwise, this is a mostly compete list for any playthrough. The only 'evil' missing are Bhaal, Auntie Ethel, Ascended Astarion (he has a summon power that summons like 6 mobs, i believe this loses you Ulma), Lorroakan (swapped for Aylin et al), Viconia (Shar Boss lady), Wulbren if you went against the Gondians, and lastly the Zhentarim replaces the Guild.
haha I got the blessing from the false god instead 😂 I think Mizora said she would show up but if you freed Wyll from his pact then she won't. I could be wrong tho but that's what happened in all my runs and what appeared on bg3 wiki
The Ox mentions in a Dark Urge playthrough that he wants to leave that behind. He is very much like Sharran Shadowheart at the start of the game essentially, a good or neutral person following an evil god.
Shadowheart as a Dark Justiciar can swap for Viconia, and supposedly Sarevok can show up for the final battle as well, but there's barely any footage of it and no guides mention him.
@@smithbrown2848 it is much easier, if you banish the Steel Watchers in the beginning and 1 round before they are exploding. That way the gondians dont get that Damage.
@@smithbrown2848I think you just have to save the leader daughter which is easy since she starts right next to your submarine. I did a playthriugh where a few of them drowned but I still got the steel watcher
The Armored Owlbear is the Owlbear cub from Act 1. If you get the Owlbear to come to your camp (You can recruit him in his cave or the goblin camp), he smells you and shows up after like 3 long rests), the cub hangs out, with big brother Scratch, until this end. Dammon, the infernal iron smith Tiefling, tells you the Owlbear cub 'took to the potions better than they thought' and is armored up (presumably they potion'ed the cub up to enlarge/grow him up a bit, since he was a cub the last time you rested). I do not know if you have to save BOTH Dammon and Owlbear cub, or just the cub (Dammon can die in Act 1 or in Last Light Inn in Act 2). My guess is you need to save both, otherwise Dammon wouldnt be there to armor and introduce him.
Here’s the list of acts to recruit him: 1 Kill the mother owlbear then long rest 2 Win chicken chasing and pass dialogue checks to have the owlbear go to camp 3 go to the mountain pass long rest 3 times and pass each dialogue check each night 4 make sure dammon lives till act 3
Yeah idk either. Withers was very firmly telling you Mindflayers don’t have souls back at Moonrise but he’s defending him here. I know Larian said the Emperor is supposed to basically be who the player makes him out to be, either a cunning manipulator or a good person and events are canon to their individual playthroughs rather than general story and lore but occasional things like that post-speech line just leave you wondering. Maybe it’s just to encourage another playthrough
@AR-bj5et The emperor is NOT Balduran himself, this is why he doesn't think it's important to tell you. He is a mindflayer with the memories and some of the personality of Balduran. There is some ambiguity around the emperor's morality, but he definitely does not have a soul and at least USED to be a monster even when not controlled by the elder brain
@@hashirakun5386 for Barcus, you just gotta side with barcus when Wulbren comes to you after you disable the steel watchers. For the steel watcher, it’s actually from the Gondians-you need to save ALL Gondians
@@danterik9781 yes, I got the blessing from boooal so I couldn’t recruit Kuo-toa. For Mizora, if you free Wyll from his pact, the recruitment conversation shows up but Mizora won’t really come at the end, aligned with BG3 wiki
I've made a video that features all "evil" allies you can get here: ua-cam.com/video/J2EFsSM0FGk/v-deo.htmlsi=nGOwAc08EXnbNjLj 😈
So many allies, so many turns
Action economy is crying.
This scene is great! My only question is why is this dude giving the speech? It’s Stormtrooper 5. If Ulder survived he should have been the one doing this, this guy should only be there if he died or something. Nitpicking, I know but, it’s the same as if a random Stormtrooper was giving a speech.!
Likely in the event that everyone else who would give the speech is dead. Makes it easier on the code
My thoughts exactly, "..who was this again???"
i played with a randomly created face for my character who looked EXACTLY like this guy (which I didn't know of course). Was so suprised when my Tav suddenly got shorter and started to hold that speech. until my actual Tav came through the door, meeting his twin brother and I realized the game had tricked me
I thought the exact same thing! Like it’s kind of weird that Random Fist #5 is giving such a major speech, I could see him being there as a failsafe if Ulder is unavailable but otherwise it should have been him.
@@karlwittenburg5868 man larian doesn't care about making it easier on the code they have like so many fallback characters and fallbacks for those and stuff i dont think itd be too hard for them to figure out
Tav should have had voices lined at this point
Dame Aylin and Isobel never showed up for me even though they said they would in the journal. This happened in two radically different playthroughs. The kuotuoa did not show as well and should have. Anyway, didn’t end up up summoning because I didn’t want anyone to die. I’m glad I can see Aylin and Isobel on this video, at least.
did you do lorroacan quest?
@@simon-vh7pk I did, both times. So what happens is that I do the quest, Aylin does some extreme WWF move on Lorroakan to finish things up and then says she wants to rest. We speak again in camp and then I think they say something about selunites (i don't know if I made this up) and disappear from camp. I assume "ok, they said they'll be there so they will". They never show up. The journal still says they both pinky-promised to be there.
shame The Emperor is an idiot if you choose to free Orpheus
You can actually have it all. If Gale & Lae'zel are in your party, when you go to free Orpheus, you can take the Supreme Tadpole from the Emperor but tell him you'll use it later, then tell Lae'zel you won't let the Emperor destroy Orpheus if it means that much to her. The Emperor flies off to join the Netherbrain. Tell Orpheus that you trust in Gale. Nobody becomes a mindflayer! If you play as Gale Origin, yourself, you can become the mindflayer, but Mystra will restore your human soul & body, if you agree to come with her to Elysium (neutral good Heaven).
To be fair, he had been violating Orpheus pretty heavily and planned on either eating him or feeding him to you/Karlach, and only advocated against hijacking the Absolute because he was concerned about pissing off the Githyanki Empire. I could see Orpheus wanting his head and not taking no for an answer.
To me the Emperor is the most evil guy out there m. He killed Ansur, threatened me into forcing me to become i Mind Flayer if i kept refusing to become one and turning against me at the end because i feed Orpheus. The Emperor is a Jero.
There are a few missing in this video as they dont show up in the cutscene. The Kuo-toa in the underdark can be summoned if you exposed their false god correctly. Also, Mizora will agree to help you in this fight out of revenge for them messing with her in Act 2, both of which are easily obtained in a "good" play.
Also, I am not sure helping the Ox is a "good" play thing, the images of untold numbers of disfigured bodies and screams should have been the first clue. The second is that Zlorb is an Evil aligned Ooblex follower of Cyric (chaotic evil god of trickery and chaos) who plagued the western heartlands and Baldur's Gate specifically, so I am pretty sure helping him into the city is consigning many to their death. The third is when, in Act three, he praises the bloodshed and thanks you for helping commit more wonderful murders in Act 3 final fight, including praising Cyric. Because Cyric is the evil god of madness and trickery, we will never know whether Zlorb was trying to make a earnest attempt to start anew or lying, as per his god, all the while. What we DO know is that Zlorb murdered and feasted on untold numbers of Reithwin people during Ketheric's time (recall Reithwin was a haven Selune worshipers before the Shadow Curse, and is situated between Elturel and Baldurs Gate. Moonrise is presumed to be just under the C in "River Chionthar" on the north bank on the FR map, and the Crash site just to the west of Fort Morninglord), and suddenly decided to join a group of refugees fleeing Elturel and headed for Baldurs Gate. And whether he was lying or relapsed into his old ways, its clear that the PC helped a murdering Ooblex who praises a god whos domains are 'chaos, destruction, evil, illusion, and trickery' into a refugee fat city to (probably) kept doing what he did to the Reithwin people.
Otherwise, this is a mostly compete list for any playthrough. The only 'evil' missing are Bhaal, Auntie Ethel, Ascended Astarion (he has a summon power that summons like 6 mobs, i believe this loses you Ulma), Lorroakan (swapped for Aylin et al), Viconia (Shar Boss lady), Wulbren if you went against the Gondians, and lastly the Zhentarim replaces the Guild.
haha I got the blessing from the false god instead 😂 I think Mizora said she would show up but if you freed Wyll from his pact then she won't. I could be wrong tho but that's what happened in all my runs and what appeared on bg3 wiki
The Ox mentions in a Dark Urge playthrough that he wants to leave that behind. He is very much like Sharran Shadowheart at the start of the game essentially, a good or neutral person following an evil god.
He was not a false god though. What the Kua-toa worship as gods literally become gods due to their collective insanity.
Shadowheart as a Dark Justiciar can swap for Viconia, and supposedly Sarevok can show up for the final battle as well, but there's barely any footage of it and no guides mention him.
@@sarrach94 You have to play Dark urge and do not resist to get Sarevok. In particular the butler needs to award you the death stalker form.
I will die to protect my beloved Owlbear cub T^T That's my baby! Along with Scratch
how did you get the the steel watcher?
Save the Gondians. You got to talk to the blind guy after rescuing their families from the prison.
And bear in mind it's only just started working in Patch 7 lol.
@@jaystrickland4151I believe you have to save ALL the Gondians, which given their horrible navigation is borderline impossible without save scumming
@@smithbrown2848 it is much easier, if you banish the Steel Watchers in the beginning and 1 round before they are exploding. That way the gondians dont get that Damage.
@@smithbrown2848I think you just have to save the leader daughter which is easy since she starts right next to your submarine. I did a playthriugh where a few of them drowned but I still got the steel watcher
I missed the ox (on good side???), but in the next playthrough I won't
I have never seen the owlbear in armor, where do you get him as an ally?
You must save him from goblins in act 1 and he will join you in camp, at the end of the game he will be full grown up ;)
The Armored Owlbear is the Owlbear cub from Act 1. If you get the Owlbear to come to your camp (You can recruit him in his cave or the goblin camp), he smells you and shows up after like 3 long rests), the cub hangs out, with big brother Scratch, until this end. Dammon, the infernal iron smith Tiefling, tells you the Owlbear cub 'took to the potions better than they thought' and is armored up (presumably they potion'ed the cub up to enlarge/grow him up a bit, since he was a cub the last time you rested). I do not know if you have to save BOTH Dammon and Owlbear cub, or just the cub (Dammon can die in Act 1 or in Last Light Inn in Act 2). My guess is you need to save both, otherwise Dammon wouldnt be there to armor and introduce him.
That's the owlbear cub from act 1
Here’s the list of acts to recruit him:
1 Kill the mother owlbear then long rest
2 Win chicken chasing and pass dialogue checks to have the owlbear go to camp
3 go to the mountain pass long rest 3 times and pass each dialogue check each night
4 make sure dammon lives till act 3
@@burntgrahamcracker2866 you don't need to kill the mother
The gondian steel watcher is the hardest one to get for me
I got all of them except for Mol. First time seeing her there. How do you get her to join the allies?
first you need to find her contract in the house of hope, then DON"T tell her that you killed Raph (if you do), and finally persuade her :)
That's cool's you can get the strange ox
Wouldn’t consider the ox a good character since he’s a cleric of cyric and prolific murderer.
Would consider the Kua-toa an option
would've nice to literally ride him into battle though
@@aldmerian would you really trust him.
He’d also be sticky
Ox bro is a good character, this is not up for debate
@ I meant morally good he’s clearly evil
@@burntgrahamcracker2866killing doesn’t make you evil, we also could kill …
As someone who fucked up q lot on his first playtrough i can only WOW HOW DID I MISS SO MUCH!?
Fr. My first playthrough I had aylin isobel ravenguard and the watch. Second time around I was only missing the fish guys, the ox, and mol
My iguana only needs daddy Bhaal 😂
You can turn the steel watch on your side?
no, you can save ALL Gondians, and they will send you a steel watch
How did you get a steel watcher?
you need to save all Gondians!
What happened to the rest of your party? La’azel, Shadowheart, Gale, Karlach, Wyll, Minsc etc.
I only traveled with Astar this run 😳
How did you get wings on your character?
@@smanly3274 mod.io/g/baldursgate3/m/wings-unlocked
There are mods on Nexus that allow for them. The 5e Aasimar race being one of them.
Whats the comment with the Emperor after the speech? Hinting that something dark is there? BTW, joining the emperor isnt really a good run tbh.
[spoilers obviously]
Balduran got turned into a mindflayer, he is the emperor
Yeah idk either. Withers was very firmly telling you Mindflayers don’t have souls back at Moonrise but he’s defending him here.
I know Larian said the Emperor is supposed to basically be who the player makes him out to be, either a cunning manipulator or a good person and events are canon to their individual playthroughs rather than general story and lore but occasional things like that post-speech line just leave you wondering.
Maybe it’s just to encourage another playthrough
@AR-bj5et The emperor is NOT Balduran himself, this is why he doesn't think it's important to tell you. He is a mindflayer with the memories and some of the personality of Balduran. There is some ambiguity around the emperor's morality, but he definitely does not have a soul and at least USED to be a monster even when not controlled by the elder brain
Wait wait wait how can you recruit steel watcher and barcus at the same time?
@@hashirakun5386 for Barcus, you just gotta side with barcus when Wulbren comes to you after you disable the steel watchers. For the steel watcher, it’s actually from the Gondians-you need to save ALL Gondians
I see, thank you
Is the armored owlbear the... cub?
haha yes!
oh sheet, i definitely killed a lot of these people.
No one came to aid me :(
Either your game is super bugged or you didn't play a good playthrough lol
It is a shame, that someone has to become a Mindflayer. That ruined the game for me in the end
I always killed the ox 😂
No Orpheus?? That's not a good playthrough
Lol. Cheat: dice roll bonus (ACTIVE)
MIssing Kuo-toa, also Mizora
@@danterik9781 yes, I got the blessing from boooal so I couldn’t recruit Kuo-toa. For Mizora, if you free Wyll from his pact, the recruitment conversation shows up but Mizora won’t really come at the end, aligned with BG3 wiki
Nah because how is this a good playthrough if The Emperor is there?
not all :*