Redesigning The Sonic Cast - DanSpex

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  • @BluStarDogger7490
    @BluStarDogger7490 Рік тому +108

    I think the exposed back on Amy's dress was to portray that she also enjoys fashion and shopping.
    In Sonic Shuffle, she once said "Forget about Sonic, look at my dress"

  • @RandomNTH
    @RandomNTH Рік тому +343

    These designs look so cool. Sonic is in drastic need for redesigns, so these fit the bill pretty well.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +19

      Thank you! Glad you like them

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому +5

      @@danspex.
      Sonic:-"the chest is too buff-looks like he switched body type with knuckles,arms and legs need to be thicker(like most others' honestly but whatever for now, why do his shoes and gloves Still, have So Mutch Room?),his eyes should be more horizontal like Sonic Prime(or the animation you showed, to look like two raindrops slightly fused),otherwise, not bad".
      Tails:-"couldn't you make the yellow work-like a shade reminiscent of bananas?,if I've been you, would've gotten rid all of his tuffts for good,make his arms white,blue shoes,and gray rubber lab gloves(like Boom's) and white parts of his shoes gray too".
      Knuckles:-"sharp_knuckles_are kind of his thing"-",how is he supposed to climb walls?-"that should've been kept,his spines/hair or whatever should be six,his white chest crest should be colored like his cheeks"-"both darker shade like in game colors,the tail should be straight like his in game sprite animations showed,the yellow streak on his shoes should be the whole knee til toes area_like in the games_and color it black and yellow instead(Sonic has white racing stripes on his shoes, This way, you'd make them more"opposite"plus o.v.a reference),more Round head shape,simular mouth design to Sonic but regular slightly pointy nose,back spikes like Sonic's in underground but turned upwards"?
      Amy Rose:-"No tuffts(their just too mutch like Tails, remove them, but her's just from the head),"ring/bracelets(they look too mutch like shadow's),Red eyes(to compliment her pink fur),racing stripes/socks on her boots(that's sonic's thing)"-"purple dress,slitted spiky skirt(reminiscent of an opened up daisy flower from upwards face angle to prevent peaking😏😉),open back but simular back spikes to Knuckles'(As described above),can still have sleaves like Prime's, but have horizontal orange racing stripes run down from them til reaching the hips". Their the perfect mix between reinventing the wheel and staying faithful, I think. Maybe someday could give them a try?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому +2

      @@danspex. Their indeed, interesting.

    • @Copter200
      @Copter200 Рік тому +1

      ​@@erikbihari3625
      Now This is Constructive criticism.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому +1

      @@Copter200. I try doing my Best.

  • @xavior4486
    @xavior4486 Рік тому +354

    Even tho I personally don't mind the current models and there's been official proof that they can look good imo, I still love your interpretations of them(barring some small nickpicks for some).
    I'm fine if they keep or update the models either way. All I would want is them to make the current models more animation friendly if they decide to keep them. Frontiers was a step in the right direction in that regard.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +45

      Yea I highly doubt they would change the models entirely but I feel like if they evolve the ones they have now and actually animate them properly that would be cool. I’m actually just now thinking about it but wreck it Ralph 2 is actually a good example it’s the best I’ve seen the modern design portrayed. Thanks for watching the video!

    • @KikoSquirrely
      @KikoSquirrely Рік тому +4

      If more "Friendly" you mean more mature and well thought it, then yes.. It is more "Friendly"

    • @Apex_YT_117
      @Apex_YT_117 Рік тому +3

      @@KikoSquirrely he meant animation-friendly, or in other words, "well suited for animation"

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому +1

      @@Apex_YT_117."Greg Martin"s-"eyes, can't emote beyond permenant scowl without downsize or seporation. Prime's is good compromise!

  • @wiftywyvern
    @wiftywyvern Рік тому +630

    these designs are really good, I think tails' eyes look kinda weird. overall though I hope these get 3d modelled soon

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +109

      I’d love to see how these would look in 3D

    • @pattik_
      @pattik_ Рік тому +12

      no they don’t

    • @toeisonicthecutebluehedgeh516
      @toeisonicthecutebluehedgeh516 Рік тому +15

      @@pattik_not his bro they look like thick triangles

    • @KatGhostDrawz
      @KatGhostDrawz Рік тому +12

      I personally like the way his eyes look,
      and these redesigns are great, i agree with that.

    • @endiethething2324
      @endiethething2324 Рік тому +5

      The eyes probably could be more "ovaly" but if it were ever used in action as is it would be great

  • @widerekxxanimations6842
    @widerekxxanimations6842 Рік тому +172

    i honestly like sonic being more lanky honestly, I can see why people woudn't like it, but i do, also i feel like making his arms smaller makes them crossing their arms look worse, since you would no loner see the arms just big blobs of hands, like when amy crossedher arms in heroes

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +34

      Yea the hands would have to be smaller to compensate so they can actually fit in between the arms

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      Have you seen"the animation of Sonic Games"too?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@danspex. Yeah, less classic Mickey Mouse, and more"Tom and Jerry"!

    • @widerekxxanimations6842
      @widerekxxanimations6842 Рік тому +1

      @@erikbihari3625 yes i have, why?

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@widerekxxanimations6842. Because it had good ideas and said a lot of smart things(minus everything regarding Amy. For that check out:-"Amy Rose is a strong female character"by"taro marshmellow")!

  • @aryandairshad
    @aryandairshad Рік тому +70

    These redesigns are fantastic, I love all of them! Happy to know someone else appreciates the SA1 Dreamcast model cuz that look is PEAK (personally).

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +6

      SA1 Dreamcast model supremacy! Thank you for the kind words

    • @HiCringe
      @HiCringe Рік тому +2

      I believe 80% of the sonic fandom can agree that the dreamcast models are peak

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      Yeah, they look more like Tom and Jerry characters rather than inspired by classic Mickey Mouse, wich is a good compromise!

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@HiCringe. I never heard This brought up, just the music as being uniting all who fractured!

    • @Arthemisishere
      @Arthemisishere 8 місяців тому

      @@HiCringe sa2 is also really good

  • @gangsta_gator
    @gangsta_gator Рік тому +4

    I love these redesigns. Especially how you took the originals and tweaked them to be better rather than a complete overhaul!

  • @caity_strophic
    @caity_strophic Рік тому +12

    8:00 YES!! THANK YOU!! FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED!! i always hated how knuckles was skinny and didnt hav a big build, cuz you know HES SUPPOSE TO BE STRONG!! i liked his design in sonic boom cuz atleast his big build was emphasised (although sonic team did do knuckles dirty with his personality in sonic boom). love the redesign of knuckles

  • @nightalie143
    @nightalie143 Рік тому +21

    i love tails' eyes because it reminds me of the first version of him in my opinion the best version because he looks like a kid, hes orange, body is tiny and his limbs are short and thats what you did but his torso is bigger but that doesnt matter that much hes still a cute kid

  • @sumstoopidcreator
    @sumstoopidcreator Рік тому +22

    These look amazing! I would absolutely love metal sonic in this type of style hell even Eggman would look great! Can’t wait to see more!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +3

      Would definitely love to redesign those two!

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@danspex. I have some ideas, like make him have just goggles, he's moustache should be red(as if he's irish), spendax suspendor with egg buttons around his orange coat, ect.

  • @Tessodan
    @Tessodan Рік тому +43

    For tails I'd suggest giving him those black lines on the wrist of his gloves to make them seem like work gloves! Basically the gloves he had in his classic design

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому +3

      Or how about making them other colored rubber gloves(like Boom's)? But not a bad idea, honestly.

  • @realmarchie
    @realmarchie Рік тому +32

    LOVE THESE! Especially tails. He looks like a little sidekick rather than a teen who doesn’t really need to be around anymore 😭

    • @Vitallor
      @Vitallor 11 місяців тому +2

      After frontiers tails did want to do other things though other than just sticking round sonic

    • @toraregisfurry
      @toraregisfurry 6 місяців тому +3

      yall are just regressing tails' character arc atp

  • @flamango4660
    @flamango4660 Рік тому +40

    Ok, I have some thoughts regarding Knuckles. I think your design has the right idea, but I'd go about it a little differently.
    In regards to the arm thing, I think for the flexibility in animation and the consistency with the other characters I'd make his arms noodly. to get around the issue of them not looking sturdy enough, I'd make them get thicker towards the hands. (this is something I'd like to do with the rest of the cast, but for them it would be a very subtle effect, similar to the SA2 models, while with knuckles it's more exaggerated.)
    I also couldn't help but notice that his hand's look a lot smaller in your design. (I'm not sure if this was intentional). I would keep his hand's absurdly large because I feel like without that he doesn't pack the same (heh) punch.
    Lastly, If we're making his torso bigger I might want to make his quills slightly longer so we don't lose that flow they have with the rest of the design. Your design gives the impression that his head is a little far back and I think this might be a reason why.

  • @orzen_the_orzo933
    @orzen_the_orzo933 Рік тому +126

    I really like your designs, especially Knuckles. But I like Tails' white fur being a little beigeish but just a tiny bit so it's still bright and almost white; also I do like orangeish Tails more than yellow Tails.
    I would like to see another video, with Shadow, Silver, Metal Sonic, and Blaze, but you can just do whoever you like.

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam Рік тому +10

      Tails according to his original sprites and artwork was meant to be orange, never Super Sonic levels of yellow.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@Solesteam. But it looks better on him, the Sonic sequel found shades that aren't quite orange.

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam Рік тому +2

      @@erikbihari3625 *In your opinion.* To me he looks like plastic cheese such a bright yellow.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      @@Solesteam. Orange would look a lot better on cream honestly, and not just in mine, he looks better color wise in the sequel!

  • @DJAngel_2004
    @DJAngel_2004 Рік тому +8

    0:28 I would say the models are outdated and mostly overstayed their welcome but it is sonics most iconic look and I do love the model only thing is it’s been sonics model ever since Colors and I really don’t want sega to try something with sonics model again I mean think about Boom for a second nobody liked how he looked especially the bandages

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 Рік тому

      I'm actually mostly fine with Sonic's Boom design. I have more of a problem with Boom Knuckles. Not to mention people mostly just complained about Sonic's scarf and sports tapes on his arms. Get rid of those and people would have stropped complaining about that Sonic design.

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 Рік тому +20

    I like that these designs are more subtle- while still showing some more personality in shape and depth.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      I leaved a comment amoung these, describing how personally would've done it. Check out, it's interesting!

  • @fl0_hrl
    @fl0_hrl 2 місяці тому +4

    One thing that strikes me is how Amy lost her back quills in the transition to modern designs. She doesn't even have short quills, just none.

  • @FaZeripioeoo2
    @FaZeripioeoo2 Рік тому +13

    Love the darker colors you used for sonic and tails and the knuckles redesign is perfect imo hope you do a part 2 maybe do shadow,Rouge,Silver and blaze could be fun either way great video man!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      Thank you glad you liked the designs!

  • @hamzagamalelgamal
    @hamzagamalelgamal Рік тому +4

    This looks really cool and good. Would love for you to do that with the other series' characters (shadow, rouge, cream, big, etc)

  • @aleatoriobr7386
    @aleatoriobr7386 4 місяці тому +10

    Why did UA-cam reccomend this 1 year after😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀

  • @realcloud9939
    @realcloud9939 Рік тому +6

    Not super into art but found this video really interesting. Love your vibe you seem very chill would totally watch more videos on your sonic opinions or any other video game related stuff 👍

  • @pinkheartgamers5007
    @pinkheartgamers5007 Рік тому +4

    Your Color shading and characters proportions reminds me of the satoshi okano art of sonic for the modern sonic designs ( Artist for the Japanese version of sonic 3D blast). The darker bolder colors and the body proportions allowed for some expressive posing and dynamic expressions. Makes it have a retro look but more defined for modern audiences. Great work

  • @PAHG2
    @PAHG2 Рік тому +21

    As a VERY struggling aspiring character designer, this actually piqued my interest. I didn't expect to like this video (take that as you will), but I learned a lot, and I love to learn so like, yeah. I'm very bad at designing characters to look distinct from one another, so this helped for any future endeavors.
    Anyways, side tangent, I gotta mention how good the current 3D models can look/do look in 2D art. Tyson Hesse and Yuji Uekawa really let these designs show, while adding tidbits of their flare to it to make them look stylized. For example, look at TSR: Overdrive, Chao In Space, and even Sonic Frontiers Prolouge: Divergence. The Sonic Channel art is also a really good example. Also, gotta mention Evan Stanley, gotta be some of the best interpretation of these 3D models to 2D art.
    Also, fan renders and the CGI cutscenes done by Marza, and formerly Blur, are AMAZING in terms of posing, expression, and overall liveliness when it comes to these models that can often look very dead. The Sonic Unleashed opening, Night of the Werehog, Black Night and Secret Rings CGI, the Sonic Lost World opening, and nothing beats the absolute beauty of Sonic 06 CGI, which both studios worked on, actually. Also, the promo animations for Sonic Frontiers and Forces look relatively eye-catching and filled with detail. Sucks that we didn't get to see them in-game, I'm still mad about that.
    Anyways, I've talked WAY too long about stuff no one cares about, so goodbye for 1000 years. :))

    • @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI
      @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI Рік тому +3

      don't worry! It was very nice to read!

    • @HiCringe
      @HiCringe Рік тому +2

      Yeah I didn't get bored at all and I found a lot of opinions I can relate to in your comment :)

    • @BJSolar02
      @BJSolar02 Рік тому +3

      You're not the only who sucks at character designing

  • @DoggoDoesStuff1
    @DoggoDoesStuff1 Рік тому +16

    I wish the official design Amy had her classic quills, the weird hair looking quills look pretty boring, especially for her silhouette, at least to me.
    These redesigns are fantastic tho, keep up the great work. I loved the vid

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +8

      That would be interesting to see modern Amy with her classic quills. The way I always saw it was her headband was pushing her quills down. Thank you I’m glad you loved the vid!

  • @MakriaMicronation
    @MakriaMicronation Місяць тому +5

    I think peak sonic design would be a mix of modern and boom, boom sonic has some actually good changes, like reducing the size of hands and feet, making knuckles actually strong and not just red sonic with even bigger hands, and giving each character some unique trait like Sonic's bandana or Tails' goggles and tool belt. It makes them individual and not just templates of the same lanky body and different colored shoes

  • @davizaop
    @davizaop Рік тому +11

    Tails with blue shoes would look kinda cool tho, you might wanna try it.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 Рік тому +4

      I've seen a blue shoe'd Tails floating around quite a bit. I wonder what lead to its resurgence?
      (I know it was a concept design but I'm just wondering why artists are starting to color them blue all of a sudden.)

    • @davizaop
      @davizaop Рік тому +4

      @@mill2712 Both orange from Tails and blue are complementary colors, you can see that by Sonic and Tails matching eachother visually.
      It became popular because of fanarts and a false concept art.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 5 місяців тому +1

      I kind of want to see his back half of his shoes green to complement Sonic's red shoes, which also ties in altogether.

  • @Olli3innit
    @Olli3innit Рік тому +7

    These designs look amazing, with the tails design I completely agree with the spiky stupid things, it's hard to draw and makes me more unable and make it annoying and a burden for drawing him, I will use these in drawings, you should defenitly do shadow, silver and eggman next, mabey metal sonic since he looks barely anything like sonic now

  • @Tzarina8472
    @Tzarina8472 Рік тому +2

    In my fanfics, I've done some region based prevailing genetics work to help characters from similar areas have hints of similar features. This will be important when I convert the books into visual mediums. For example, on Christmas Island the people are fierce and independent to a fault. They're all edge lords, so they will have harsher, sharper features. Sonic will reflect this in having a wider angle in his forehead between his eyes, giving him something closer to a V shaped face. Amy's family on the other hand comes from here and there, but mostly in areas where it's easier to live and people have softer, rounder, and basically cuter features. She will have a narrower angle to the same spot between her eyes, making them more parallel with each other.

  • @rylzafable3242
    @rylzafable3242 18 днів тому

    This is by far the best redesign, simple and less change yet better than official.
    Hope to see shadow redesign

  • @CJs_Will
    @CJs_Will Рік тому +4

    I’ve found a new top 10 sonic channel, also the designs look great!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      Thank you I really appreciate hearing that! Can’t wait to keep making more content

  • @crystalinesunshine2927
    @crystalinesunshine2927 Рік тому +1

    Dude, they look amazing! You did great.

  • @Pico_Friday_Night_Funkin
    @Pico_Friday_Night_Funkin Рік тому +1

    I've gotta say, these redesigns are actually pretty good!

  • @Leo_ke__
    @Leo_ke__ Рік тому +5

    These videos make me happy^^ great job mate👍

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @espinoth9913
    @espinoth9913 Рік тому

    I'd love to see more redesigns, these all have so much more character to them. If they were 3D rendered and given the same sort of soft shading that gets effected by dynamic lighting as has been drawn on a number of IDW Sonic comic covers (like one of the R1 variant covers for the 5th anniversary edition oneshot), it would be an absolutely perfect combination.
    These designs are the perfect stylistic evolutions of the current models and I hope to see more!

  • @Cacakison
    @Cacakison Рік тому

    your take on tails' eyes looks so perfect, god i hate the eyes his model has rn, hope sega looks at your designs man

  • @InuyashaMiles
    @InuyashaMiles Рік тому +1

    I love these designs so much. They feel nostalgic and have such a lively punch to their models. I definitely do prefer these over the modern sonic models.

  • @LoganDoesStuffLDS
    @LoganDoesStuffLDS Рік тому +10

    Old movie Sonic design described in a nutshell. 0:38

  • @Apple_Jackson
    @Apple_Jackson Рік тому +2

    Loved the video, great points and the designs look so lively with the tweaks! Would love to see more videos and maybe to even make it a series! Would love to see Team Chaotix next! 🤠

  • @RegularStudios2020
    @RegularStudios2020 11 місяців тому +2

    Still love this video. It's what inspired me to go all out with my designs and experiment with new works for it!

    • @danspex
      @danspex  11 місяців тому +1

      That’s awesome! Really cool I could do that for you and glad to hear about your designs, keep up the good work!

    • @RegularStudios2020
      @RegularStudios2020 11 місяців тому

      @@danspex Same to you!

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam Рік тому +3

    You nailed it with all of them... except Sonic, I feel like he has too much body and too little leg, his whole thing is he runs fast, so I feel like the original limb to body proportions of the current model would work better.

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 Рік тому +1

      His Knuckles design reminds me a bit too much of Boom Knuckles.

  • @brontomage20
    @brontomage20 5 місяців тому +2

    Minor detail at 9:48: I noticed that Knuckles’s head isn’t as “flat” as his official design. Kinda resembles how the S&K (or S3/S3&K) sprites portrayed him.

  • @OOFMAJOR
    @OOFMAJOR Рік тому +4

    These designs are fantastic!!

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP Рік тому +6

    Awesome redesigns! I'd love if some official media took notes from/like these!

  • @Narnes64
    @Narnes64 Рік тому +6

    Ooh these are surprisingly pretty nice! I especially like the darker fur colors.
    Guess I’ll give one nitpick for each character as well though just in case any of them stand out to you if you continue this series (which I hope you do)
    - I do think you should make sonics shoes a bit more pointy at the front. The strange bump in the ends just don’t give me sneaker vibes.
    - like other comments mentioned something does feel a bit weird with tails eyes. Ironically I think it would help if you rounded out the tops of them a bit more
    - I think the back of Knuckles head is a bit too big or perhaps it’s just the one dread behind us arm that’s throwing me off…
    - I’m sorry but with Amy it just looks like you gave her a bigger… chest. I know you said that the main change was to the Prime dress that fixed the back but I think I’m that case you should have made the pose to show that change or also included a back profile. That way it doesn’t just look like the only change you made to her was giving her bigger… chest

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      A:"Yeah it does look closer to a smaller clown shoe. B:"the bottom looks a bit too sharp as well, I think. C:"the odd numbered spines and egg shaped head contribute to it. D:"how about if she has back spines like Sonic? That way, the open back would be not just stylish, but functional(it's crazy that her original design that actually needed, doesn't have it, yet This does, sega is so Crazy, sometimes, No"?")!

  • @RCroley26
    @RCroley26 Рік тому +7

    Love the designs bro!

  • @brunoangelfraiden
    @brunoangelfraiden Рік тому +1

    OMG I love your designs!!! EVERYONE looks AMAZING and more like they're Adventure designs and i LOVE THAT 💗💗💗💗. Actually, i like both Amy's dresses, the backless one is iconic but the Prime one looks great too, is better for combat i think so fits the character.

  • @SonicTheHedgehogX15
    @SonicTheHedgehogX15 8 місяців тому +2

    Finally someome agrees with me that uekawas been losing his edge

  • @rourkefilms9511
    @rourkefilms9511 5 місяців тому

    This is very well done. I like these redesigns because it gives them more life.

  • @toneeyyhh
    @toneeyyhh Рік тому

    I never thought the designs were ever bland. I just think they’ve been around for so long that we got tired of them

  • @Comkill117
    @Comkill117 Місяць тому

    These are pretty good overall but Sonic here looks downright great. Adventure’s my favorite game, and I think part of that is kinda like you said where that model felt like it had a good mix of the classic look with new element. Also I like how much more cartoony everyone looks here, as it both looks nice but I could also imagine them let the animations be more exaggerated without looking off.

  • @metam8378
    @metam8378 Рік тому +36

    I think frontiers had a good design for sonic, specifically the in game model. Idk why they don’t just use that for promotions since he’s basically a shorter more classic looking modern sonic. And the fact that they weren’t lazy with the animations in that game opposed to Forces, it looks pretty solid. If he had more energetic expressions, I honestly think he’d be the definitive sonic model. I love your art tho they’re all perfect

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +13

      Thank you, and yea frontiers was definitely a good step in the right direction hopefully they can go further with it as the games go

    • @areakastudios6704
      @areakastudios6704 Рік тому +3

      Frontiers did have some pretty solid expressions from time to time. The cutscene where he talks to sage on chaos island is a highlight for me.

    • @erikbihari3625
      @erikbihari3625 Рік тому

      Sorry, but Thor really, Sonic can still barely emote beyond a permenant scowl there, and"the mascot suit problem"still persists(check"the animation of Sonic Games")!

  • @WhiteTeeDrinker
    @WhiteTeeDrinker 9 місяців тому +3

    There really good i do have one problem and it's abit too cartoony or actually yeah i don't know what to say but these look like it would be a friday night funkin mod

  • @Jemmy32x
    @Jemmy32x 28 днів тому +1

    OH MY GOD TAILS IS ADORABLE I WANNA HUG RUNDJCJDCJDCIIXIXJSDNSC

  • @the_mightyest_7790
    @the_mightyest_7790 3 місяці тому +1

    I Like all these Upgraded designs, But one Nitpick for Amy, I think she should wear shorts underneath the skirt since we REALLY don't need to see that underwear like thing we saw in 06 and the mobile games, but what color should the shorts be? I've been thinking Black(that's the most common color I've seen for that) or a dark Crimson(to match her red dress)

  • @vexgamer5014
    @vexgamer5014 Рік тому +1

    Part 2 now.
    Seriously though, awesome job! I liked it a lot

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi Рік тому +1

    I really loved that philosophy of slight enchantments and evolution vs a total reinvention that doesn't even resemble what it once was.
    Truthfully, I don't know much about character design but I do know a bit about franchises I love and I often feel that in today's world, companies and cooperation are dead set on completely reinventing franchises to the point where they barely resemble what they once were. Consequentially, this new iteration ends up having little to nothing of what made me love the original incarnation so much.
    But that's why I loved your point, I think it is a true lesson that should not only be applied to character design but other areas of media as well. I really hope that not just Sega hears it, but any and all media corporations that are considering making changes to beloved franchises.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому

      Couldn’t of have said it better myself, thank you for your wisdom Obi-Wan

  • @UltimateTS64
    @UltimateTS64 Рік тому +3

    I like the ideas of these, and really like Amy's look, but Sonic just rubs me the wrong way. Idk if it's just cause I'm used to the old proportions, or if this version just needs to be in motion, but he just doesn't look right too me. Maybe it's the chest cause that immediately stood out. It's not bad, just not what I prefer

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      Yea this design is definitely different from what we’re used to and I’d love to animate these designs someday, if I ever have the time

  • @thatonedumbe
    @thatonedumbe 2 місяці тому

    I immediately fell in love with Tails' redesign

  • @yasthemann
    @yasthemann Рік тому

    i really love these designs especially what you did with the shoes

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      Thank you I definitely thought the shoes needed an overhaul

    • @yasthemann
      @yasthemann Рік тому

      @@danspex yeah, those are not meant for easy movement

  • @WAXPAPER149
    @WAXPAPER149 10 місяців тому

    I like these redesigns you’ve made, it feels like retro sonic art.

  • @waterfally
    @waterfally 2 місяці тому +1

    when I heard you were gonna redesign tails my first idea went too blue shoes

  • @BunnyTPerson
    @BunnyTPerson Рік тому +1

    I'd change Amy's dress to something else, one thing that particularly bothered me about her design, is how in Sonic Adventure you can see her panties during gameplay.

  • @EEpiQ
    @EEpiQ 5 місяців тому

    i freaking LOVE how u made tails look kinda fluffier!

  • @cas_r_a
    @cas_r_a Рік тому +5

    Love the video, great quality

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Really means a lot to me!

    • @Gamerbropart2
      @Gamerbropart2 Рік тому +1

      @@danspex talk to Sega they might hire you to do this

  • @aluzion2616
    @aluzion2616 Рік тому +2

    That Tails and Amy expression and personality BRO WOW
    A part 2 with shadow silver Blaze and stuff 👀👀👀

  • @Wishiwashi_64
    @Wishiwashi_64 5 місяців тому

    You made Tails orange again! XD
    No, he actually looks better like that, nice one! Great! Awesome! Amazing! Outstanding! Insert annoying announcer voice line here!

  • @jayceallen6530
    @jayceallen6530 Рік тому

    Love you also making knuckes buff, i like to give him a bigger chest and larger arms and the sonic movie really helped me draw him that way

  • @Thatonemetalsonicfan
    @Thatonemetalsonicfan Рік тому

    I gotta say I love your redesign for sonic in particular manly from those shoes, the feel more like shoes instead of those boots.

  • @LsAdventurer
    @LsAdventurer Рік тому +5

    3:30 I think the top of his eye isn't round enough there, and his brow isn't big enough, and his mouth looks a bit strange, but it looks right with your design. I think you also got the colours right, and the look of the spikes does look really good, much better than the modern official renders. The mouth and the way the eyes curve into the mouth part also looks really great, and also the pupils looked a bit too circular on the official renders, and once again your design looks better there.
    Your Tails design looks really good as well, but I think the tops of his eyes could be a bit rounder and slightly bigger, and his tails also look better than the official renders. I think his proportions, next to the other characters, are really fitting for him (because he's literally 8, and the others are 12-16 lol)
    Knuckles' eyes kinda looked a bit too big compared to the size of, and his socks literally looked like *short hollow green cylinders,* and I agree with you about his proportions. Your design really makes his eyes look a lot better, his socks actually look like socks, and I really like his proportions on your design. Also his muzzle area was kinda too big in the official renders, but looks much better on your design.
    Your Amy design looks *SO* much better than how her current render looks, she looks much better with bigger eyes and slightly differently shaped pupils.
    I completely agree with 10:48, the image on the right definitely looks much better. It's really a shame how the characters' eyes look so much worse in 3D than they do in 2D... Your designs and the IDW characters look so much better in that area. I absolutely love your designs, and I think they would look really awesome in an official game, much better than the current official designs!

  • @tidepoolclipper8657
    @tidepoolclipper8657 Рік тому +1

    The reason they still have those designs is because they're conceptually good designs. You've admitted the fanbase is able to use those designs effectively. Not to mention Sega has talented animators. But for some reasons they're being restricted; especially infamously with the eyes.
    Really, I have more of a problem with the people in charge of the renders. Also, can we please give Modern Sonic back his longer quills? Shorter quills don't work for him.

  • @malkyonblox
    @malkyonblox 2 місяці тому +1

    knuckles to me looks like someone who couldn't sleep on his back without breaking his neck

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 Рік тому +1

    I like the redesigns, but I'd just like to point some things out.
    Sonic: I feel like taking some inspiration from Heroes/Shadow and their more round versions of the upper body would work better.
    Amy: She's actually a lot younger than Sonic and shouldn't be as close to his height as she's seen here.
    Knuckles: I think bulkier gloves with sharper points would drive home the fact that Knuckles is actually meant to be fast.

  • @BlazeWolf9511
    @BlazeWolf9511 Рік тому

    These design proportions changes we’re definitely a good call. I think knuckles quills feel a little weird but aside from that these designs are solid. I think tails is my favorite of the bunch.

  • @NinetailsNinetales5TimesFast
    @NinetailsNinetales5TimesFast Рік тому +1

    This heavily reminds me of the Team Sonic Racing character reference sheets.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      Yea I was a little inspired by the TSR overdrive animation turnaround sheets glad you caught that

  • @irisblom9509
    @irisblom9509 Рік тому +1

    Being a semi outsider to the sonic fandom I actually prefer the boom!designs more. They're really cool and It gives them way more personality

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому

      Yea I will admit the boom designs fit more with their character types in the show, I just love the adventure era artwork

    • @irisblom9509
      @irisblom9509 Рік тому +1

      @@danspex thats fair. The adventure style really matches that games more cool and "edgy" tone. It fits it perfectly

  • @SPIDERKN1GHT0327
    @SPIDERKN1GHT0327 9 місяців тому +3

    These designs are peak. But I think Tails' eyes should be longer. But yeah/ 10/10 designs

  • @qs-ii1872
    @qs-ii1872 Рік тому +1

    These are a massive improvement.
    Knuckles being a string bean has always bugged me.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +1

      Glad I’m not the only one that thinks that, thank you!

    • @qs-ii1872
      @qs-ii1872 Рік тому

      @@danspex I feel like the cast’s massive gloves have been a full on issue since day 1, it only got so much worse when Sonic moved to 3D.
      Animation has always struggled with these designs. It’s easy to have nostalgia bias, but this/something like this is what really needs to be done.
      Sonic Boom’a designs had issues, but at least they served as designs that were much more animation-friendly. With it’s failure, I’m doubtful Sega would be wanting to give a significant redesign a chance just yet.
      Would be neat to see these designs be used, heck even if it’s just in a fan-game.

  • @AmgilSlabGaming
    @AmgilSlabGaming 5 місяців тому

    Oh my God, these are great! They look more alive, Knuckles having a bigger chest and thicker limbs just feels right, and I also like Sonic not being that light-blue colored. They look very child-friendly, and I don't know what else to say. They're perfect.

  • @Gamerbropart2
    @Gamerbropart2 Рік тому +6

    I mean they aren’t bad they just need
    A upgrade to fit 2023s lifestyle
    Even Nintendo has upgraded Mario and star fox
    And I think sonic needs some of that treatment

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +1

      Exactly it really needs that modern polish, the renders they have now still look like they did in the late 2000s

  • @KikoSquirrely
    @KikoSquirrely Рік тому +1

    Is it me or does your Sonic looks like the one from FNF? 😂
    But tossing that aside, l really dig those designs you did, l've never noticed those mistakes or nitpick before, but now that you mentioned that.. You've greatly improved them.
    My favorite one has to be Knuckles! ^^ Just by how you balanced out the Boom design with the modern one, like l never seen being done before!! (except the movie) 🤩🤩🤩
    I do hope you do the rest of the characters from the franchise, so that l could hear from you more thoughts on their designs as well.
    Good job, man 👍 You've got my interest and respect
    P.S. Great way to turn Tails fur into orange, it's like an homage to the original Tails who was sorta orange there. I never knew why they would make him yellow since he was orange, but l'm glad you put it like this 😄

  • @egg8404
    @egg8404 Рік тому +2

    I would honestly look pass sonic's model if it had any sort of cartoony shading like in breath of the wild, something like that would really help the models feel good.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +2

      It would be cool to have a sonic game with cell shading or anything to make it stand out

    • @egg8404
      @egg8404 Рік тому

      @@danspex Heck, they could even go one step further and make models and shading based on the old sonic adventure art work, then keep this style for future games with minor tweaks.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому

      @@egg8404 that is such a good idea I’d kill to have a game styled like that

  • @thedoc6304
    @thedoc6304 Рік тому +1

    I really liked these, especially tails and knuckles. It would be cool to see a part 2, maybe with silver shadow blaze and big? Ik the last two are random but that’s just a personal preference on what I think could be cool with some of these redesigns

  • @lasermatrix9396
    @lasermatrix9396 Рік тому

    When he was talking about knuckles I thought he was going to take some inspiration from boom knuckles but I do see what he is talking in the movie design

  • @HiCringe
    @HiCringe Рік тому

    I like these redesigns, they look more like animals rather than literal barbie toys
    like when I got back to being a Sonic fan I realized that all of the characters have overly reflective eyes like they're made out of metal or something, like I get that eyes do reflect like but this is a bit too much don't you think, Sega?
    Also I really like what you did with knuckles, I never really realized the issue with his design until the movie came about, like sometimes when I see people playing as him I assume that his strength comes from his gloves, but it makes a lot of sense with him just being more muscular
    And about the socks, I have recently learned that they're socks because I thought they were a part of their shoes, now that you gave them their cloth-y appearance they became instantly recognizable as socks
    Sega should really consider remodeling the cast because they're outdated and kinda painful to look at at times XD

  • @emrass7721
    @emrass7721 Рік тому

    These are amazing and I like these much more than the current official models. As for suggestions, I'd like to see your take on all of the characters, but some highlights are: The Chaotix, Shadow, Cream, and Dr. Robotnik.

  • @liliatabacari6697
    @liliatabacari6697 Рік тому +4

    Hello, what are your cool ideas for characters, it's just super, you can next time Shadow, Rouge, Omega, Silver and Blaze. I love these youtubers, I wish you 1000000 subscribers. Good luck.

    • @danspex
      @danspex  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Those characters have a lot of potential I’ll keep them in mind

  • @sanicsanic6890
    @sanicsanic6890 Рік тому +1

    KNUCKLES IS TOO BUFF
    I think that thy One Who Shall Not Chuckle should be buffer than thy Knight of the Wind where it's noticeable, but not to the extreme in your drawing.

  • @Thomasfan1725
    @Thomasfan1725 Рік тому

    I hope to see these in a poster with different backgrounds of places from the sonic games

  • @TributeClub-kd1dn
    @TributeClub-kd1dn 8 місяців тому +1

    If I make a video game
    Will you redesign the whole cast

  • @Frostshock15
    @Frostshock15 2 місяці тому

    Honestly, I like some of the designs to stay the way they are.

  • @Smileyentertainment_Ah
    @Smileyentertainment_Ah 5 місяців тому +1

    Tails has clown shoes LOL 7:05 , btw i think you should have added Kitsune markings because he is, younger kitsune(s) two tails or three, I'm not complaining about how you remade the fox i just think it would be better

  • @LizHawk
    @LizHawk Рік тому

    I have to say, at first I was skeptical with every design when shown first, but after every thought explanation I was actually saying "Why, of course! It's so obvious!"

  • @deltauniqx2237
    @deltauniqx2237 15 днів тому

    Reallt like the design, one thing is : maybe for knuckles, make the spikes a bit longer, since he's supose to be able to glide by "traping the air" in his spikes

  • @bongwaterboi209
    @bongwaterboi209 Рік тому +2

    Honestly, your designs, the original modern designs. The prime designs and the movie designs are not going to lie . Look the same. Yeah, there are some things different, but still, they all look the same.

  • @GWTVideos
    @GWTVideos Рік тому

    I love these sonic redesigns, 10/10

  • @mercurymoon9344
    @mercurymoon9344 Рік тому +1

    I really like the designs for the main cast, especially sonic cause is very close the Dreamcast sonic. Honesty if Sega makes Frontiers 2 or just another open world sonic game, they all should have new designs

  • @alicesacco9329
    @alicesacco9329 5 місяців тому

    Interesting. I'm doing about the same adjustement you did (except the banana quills, I like them), altough I choose to make Sonic body sligtly taller (3 heads tall instead of 2 and half heads tall) so it can move better. For the rest, smaller hands and foot, rounder shoes, longer torso+shorter legs, round eyes. About the same choices you did. I'm doing them in 3D aiming for animation. Not an expert in 3D either but I'm learning (hopefully).

  • @Gum_underthe_desk
    @Gum_underthe_desk Рік тому

    I'm honestly surpirsed you didn't go to town with giving the Sonic Characters accessiories, normally when i think of someone redesigning Sonic Characters i think of them giving them sports wear. Much like Sonic Boom, Their still pretty Amazing designs all in all.

  • @TheBestLoyalist
    @TheBestLoyalist Рік тому +1

    I just got over 150 subs recently too man, you went up in subs pretty quick good job on the fast growth

  • @Toysonicandfriends2
    @Toysonicandfriends2 Рік тому +1

    The modern sonic shoes look better to me because those are the shoes I’m familiar with