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i wonder who'll be next, and if we'll see coverage on the characters not in the games like bunnie, sally, antoine, this guy, random echidna nurse, rob O' the hedge, this tree sonic leaned on once, sonic's family or ANY of the villains
Dear Lowart I have a question in the Archie Sonic Comics 25 years later I noticed that Amy was missing so what I would like to know is what happened to her🥀
Archie Tails is probably the one version that goes through the most shit emotionally. Like he was actually throwing hands with Sonic the moment his parents were branded as criminals
@@minraxbeasimp1976 Like, jesus christ, that ending, man, especially in japanese, is so painful to watch for him (helped by the incredible performance of his voice actress).
Tails' argument with Sonic after he breaks his dad out of jail is honestly super good. This unbridled frustration with Sonic that had been rising for over 20 issues, finally coming to a head. Tails letting everything erupt, phuaically taking that anger out on Sonic, and Sonic taking the time to realize that while he never meant to hurt his little bro with what he did, that doesnt excuse the fact that he did.
@@mray4784 Come on man, it's the most recent example of Tails not living up to his potential. Frontiers just puts a band-aid on it by making tails suddenly reflective for no reason and claims it fixed the problem.
You know what's ironic, when Tails pinned down Sonic to let his parents escape, Rosemary wants to go back for him. But Amadeus told her not to because their son has been fighting with the freedom fighters against Eggman and other villains while they were in space, which shows the amount of faith he has in his son. Basically Amadeus, a man who hasn't seen his son for years, treated him as equal, before Sonic did despite Tails being with him longer.
@devinhamb6586 Amadeus is a general that fought in the Great War. I believe that he has the way to see how good of fighter/mature Tails really is. Also, unlike Sonic, he never saw Tails as a "Kid". (He was robotisazed on the day of Tails' birth. Therefore only saw his as young man who spent majority of his time fighting.)
@@oddguy5356fleetway supersonic is goat, but unfortunately, he doesn’t really have the feet Like his best feats are . Being able to shove a moon into the earth (it was technically a hallucination, but he believes he could do that) . Being so fast he was able to escape Chrono freeze But that’s kind of it He’s at best planet level unfortunately if the comic had continued, he would’ve definitely been much higher
@@Browhatisyoudoing Actually, Fleetway Super Sonic is stronger than God Robotnik. His feats weren't that good, but that's because we only saw feats from Super Sonic WITHOUT the full power of the True Chaos Emeralds. Right at the very end of the comic, Fleetway Super Sonic absorbs the True Chaos Emeralds, and so gains all of the same powers God Robotnik wielded. To further hammer this point home, the Fleetway Comic's writers outright state that Super Sonic is the strongest antagonist in the series, confirming that yes, he was indeed top 1 after that very brief stint at the end. Though that just makes it all the more interesting to imagine what he'd be like if Sonic got stressed again and transformed... like, I can hardly imagine a Low Multi Super Sonic running around and causing infinitely more havoc than God Robotnik ever did.
I find Archie Tails very interesting, especially in the way that we litterally saw him gradually grow up over the courses of more than 200 issues of comics. Plus he has some batshit insane lore. Great job as always!!!
Yeah I liked it too, I mean I think they should have held sonic mote accountable for his actions but I understood the point It wasn't about Fiona but rather the trust between sonic and tails that sonic has unknowingly been hurting
House of Cards gets better the more of the comic you've binged up to that point. If the last fourteen issues of the Penders era are still fresh in your memory, House of Cards can go so far as to reframe all of their horribleness into the low point of a character arc it then provides the triumphant resolution to.
Tails, much like Donatello of TMNT, has long been my favorite because of the fact he is a brilliant inventor and how important that is for the entire team to succeed.
I watched your full series retrospective early this year and then read all 500 issues of Archie Sonic/spinoffs cause it was so good. Im glad youre still covering it
I mean that's just what growing up with siblings is like. As a middle child I've witnessed my older brother shift from treating me like a naive kid to just a regular adult and now I'm doing the same for my little brother.
I'm the oldest of 4, my little brother asked if I wanted to go hang out at a bar while I was in town, and I was like WHAT?!?! It's still weird thinking he's old enough to drink even though we're both in our 30s haha😊
This. The comic is unique in that the inconsistencies during the early era created the depth of character in the later ones. By taking elements generated by writers handing the characters in a loosey-goosey fashion, the Flynn era staff was able to create *believable* characterization unlike any Sonic the Hedgehog canon, or even other works of fiction. Muddled beginnings made for deeply rich and satisfying endings, and it’s something that people underrate. Because Tails was inconsistent at the beginning, later writers could weave such contradictions into a tapestry of personality that created an extremely deep character study into Tails. Everyone is inconsistent and has different, often juxtaposed, aspects of their personalities that make us real and unique. The inconsistency turned harmony of Archie Sonic is what makes the narrative and its characters truly special because it reflects our own unique personalities.
@@TheBuckweat33 That perfectly describes why I love this comic. By being so inconsistent and crazy, it feels so satisfying and strangely real once you see the great stories it told.
He also changes visual, from a little brown fox (which is what most color cubs are) to this orange/yellow fox, I think it’s a nice visualization of him growing up
@@TheBuckweat33 After recently reading the entirety of archie including the Echidna stuff, Universe, Short stories, Sonic X, and even the crossovers...I'd say it's worth giving it a try lmao. There's lows but there are really good moments too that make it worth it. At first I wasn't into the Tails adventure stuff from the beginning of the series, but it grew on me as Tails (eventually) began to grow as a character too, and even in small ways in the beginning as well. So no- it's not a complete waste of time I feel. Recommend reading with a friend or anyone though definitely.
Man, all of this makes me wish the SatAM cartoon had gotten the chance to do a third season, where Tails was supposed to get his big emergence as a main player. Great point about Archie never letting an old plot point, even a bad one, go to waste, though; always felt like that was something that gave the series life, *anything* that happened could impact something down the line, no matter how out of nowhere it might seem at first.
@@Abner-gu3ve Oh, of course the characters are there, it's what drew me to the comic in the first place waaaaaay back in the day, but it definitely handled them differently than the show would have in a number of ways.
I love seeing these other versions of Sonic characters, so I wish we got to see more writer interpretations of these core character traits, like what you see with different superhero comic runs
I only read a few archie sonic comics as a kid. They came with the jazzware figures, but the one I remember the most was I think around the time of the tails and khan issue. I don't remember much about it, just that sally was dating khan and the last page had sally and khan walking in the background while sonic walked with amy. I remember being so excited that sonic had comics since I had just gotten my first console (a ps2) and a friend introduced me to the series via sonic unleashed.
Absolutely love these videos going into the character arcs of the Archie Sonic cast, been watching since one of the first long videos going into the series and it's all been great to watch
I miss the Archie comics. I started around issue 49, when it was really getting serialized. Rode it until near the end when the whole Flynn thing happened, the echinas got poofed, and the world was rebooting. I got off there as my beloved world was destroyed. And yeah, Tails was great.
0:14 Everyone’s been “wildy inconsistent” for a Long ass time since 2010s, lol. But yeah, the Michael Jordan of The Freedom Fighters is awesome! And he’s Jesus too! The beggining of the video is hillarious. 1:14
I feel bad for how stupid Tails’ parents are. Trusting Naugus who made attempts on their son’s life. I don’t blame the kid for losing faith in his mother. Anyways, I want to bring up Archie Sonic Online which aims to continue the pre-Super Genesis Wave story. I think you’ll enjoy it, especially since they did their own conclusion to the Naugus plotline.
@@bowserbreaker2515 ehh he learned his lesson, by the time actual comic was rebooted he already realised he was wrong in trusting naugus, and the characters are nice enough to be merciful towards Eggman, and geoffrey was far less nasty than him. I just hope he struggles with his sins and it isn't jsut brushed aside.
a LOT of people during that time were a bit dumb in just....letting naugus do that dude is an evil wizard who insitigated a RACE WAR, what did any of you dickheads THINK was gonna happen?
@@sarafontanini7051 What I liked about his story (due to it being cut short), was that it showed you can't always be redeemed. If you do something awful, you pray the price for it.
@@bowserbreaker2515i agreed with you somewhat when the issue came out, but 254 showed pretty clearly that geoffrey isn't off the hook, the other characters still hate him lol.
House of Cards was the first issue I ever read in a physical book. One of my FAVORITE issues. Edit: that ending shot of tails was so cute… great video!
I don't exactly have a favorite Sonic character, but I do have a favorite relationship: Sonic and Tail as brothers. Every entry into the franchise gets a pass or fail from me based on how well this relationship is represented. Archie had me worried at times, but came out shining strong!
Having never read the comics, but following the games and feeling like I have a good idea of what his game self should be like if it were written well, I see a lot of differences here, especially in his early characterization, that are intriguing. I figure if his game self was written well, and the character writing was a focus from the beginning, he would've started off as a very nervous sidekick. Like, he sticks close to Sonic not just to help him, but because he's afraid of being forced to fight on his own, which would lead into the Adventure arc nicely, and that arc would also begin a long running arc of him growing from just "I can handle some things on my own" all the way to the point where Sonic and him feel like equals. I'd love to see him grow to the point where he's more like current Archie Tails, for sure. I also feel like they really tried and missed the mark of having the "Sonic and Tails fight, but end up closer than before" thing in Lost World. The writing was already not fantastic, but then you're gonna tell me that you're trying to have the takeaway from the fight be "Sonic needs to trust that he and Tails can handle things together" and then you're going to have the cutscene before the final boss show Tails decked out in dangerous weaponry, and Sonic is just gonna say "I'll handle this" and Tails plays no role in the final boss fight? SUCH a missed opportunity for a Zelda-eque collaborative boss battle to reinforce the themes of cooperation. Also, seeing Tails' parents for the first time and realizing they kinda look like my character is wild. Cooper really could be like, a parallel universe version of his dad lol
Ian could have so easily wrote Archie Tails into actual Sonic games starting with Frontiers, but it just feels like the growth and the way he was in Archie to be a distant memory. Tails needs all the growth he got in the Archie comics, he really does!
Archi comics got their own insane adaptation with riverdale where archi Andrew’s goes through a misery carousel of pure tramatic madness and he fights a wizard who wants to make a ghost train to bring the world in to an age of darkness after archi and his friends lose because they’re fated to.
I’m glad Ian Flynn is writing for the games because at the very least tails can actually have his classic to SA2 arc pay off, but Archie tails will definitely do for now
I think The Best Shadow is either The Shadow from Sonic Prime or The Shadow from Sonic X Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings The Cartoon. Respect and keep up the epic work.
I was honestly near tears by the end of this look at my absolute favorite character. Tails' growth mirrors my own, from overcompensating for insecurities to learning that the path to real success lies in mutual support with trusted friends. I was really looking forward to this video and Lowart delivered beyond all expectations, thank you!
While closer to the game version of Tails in background, there's a really great mini-arc for post-reboot Tails in the Champions tournament arc that re-iterates several of your points here, as you may know. After being knocked out in the first round by Honey, he's understandably upset at having his pride wounded, but while watching a later fight Sonic helps to cheer him up by reminding him how much of an invaluable teammate Tails is to him. Then, later, Tails is able to get the jump on an escaping Metal Sonic before he gets away with a Chaos Emerald where no one else is able, and times it for when the venue's defenses come back online. It's great seeing Tails not being judged for being a little petty/moping and later redeeming himself in his own eyes, and the way Sonic declares him the winner is just the cherry on top.
I learned of the Battle Kukkus from the excellent fan game Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers. Battle Kukku XV is unlockable in that game and appears as a guaranteed rival spawn to Tails in Grand Prix mode!
Watched all of your Archie sonic videos and finally got the motivation to read the actual thing ( Ian Flynn run in particular ) if I enjoy it enough I’ll probably do a full read, thanks for helping me want to read it 😼
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 As awesome as all that sounds, those things (outside of characterization obviously - "characterized" is a very broad term lmao) don't really have an impact on the quality of a character. Example - Sonic from the 2022 movie matures from the 1st movie, has plenty of characterization, and is easily on the stronger side of the Sonics (partly due to the chaos emeralds taking the Sonic Adventure incantation too seriously) - but how many people would say he's better than Sonic CD's Sonic? Or the OVA's? Or any of the Adventure games? Obviously he develops more, but sometimes, believe it or not, development does not define a quality character. Sure, it can define Tails if you want it to. In Archie he was always going to develop as long as the publication ran long enough - in a sense, developing was his purpose. But in media like the games, it isn't the case. Games need static characters to carry an image of who they are to the next generations - this is why we always see regression after what would be a permanent growth moment in other media. good lord i talk a lot wtf
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 also no, there is not a better Tails y default, due to modern media turning Tails into hot compounded garbage. All they had to do was work off of the early 2000s and they still messed it up.
@dantefredul6326 ok I see what your saying but the difference here is for Archie the characterization made him even more likable and did a lot more with his character, Unlike the games fluctuation with his character, Archie tails character grew from both his original personality and onward The thing with the characterization from the references you used Is tails doesn't really change much in them, sure he goes through more but there never feels like a big change with his personality, it never feels like it sticks to him in any meaningful way nor does it add to his personality With Archie tails you clearly see him go through changes throughout the issues, in some he becomes less confident, in others he tries to be more independent, but he does change and he dies grow ro become better, eventually he becomes what his game self always dreamed about being, even confident enough to act cocky at times And this is why I think Archie tails is better, because it upgrades tails by both quaility and quantity Also we both talk a lot
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to read a comic. I mean I like the stories that come from comics like superhero stories and I do find them interesting but yeah you're right this is a really cool and interesting version of Tails
i never followed the archie comics but i did own a copy of trouble in paradise and really enjoyed it even if i had basically no context. getting that context like ten years later is so fun :) tails is always my GOAT
The IDW run Tails is fantastic by the way. He's clever, confident, he's skilled and able to physically throw down while still being an intelligent fighter (one scene he calculates the trajectory of a thrown gas bomb on the fly and then catches and tosses it back with his tails). And is consistently the first one Sonic turns too whenever he gets in over his head. Also he's an unrepentant smartass and pragmatist that keeps Sonic grounded with his level headed analysis of everything.
Well, it makes sense that he's written that way considering the context of the writing staff. I can expand if you want. But tl;dr "End-of-Archie Tails with actual screen time", so we don't have to wait for him to develop. Effectively, he's...Tails. Tails, as we knew him from the games -until nonsensical retcons to his abilities and usefulness-
I feel like a lot of folks forget that despite all his tech and book smarts, Tails is still just a pre-teen kid, and lessons don't always stick immediately with them. It takes repetition and re-assertion for certain lessons to be learned permanently, especially ones that shape one's personality. So, even when considering the context of the games and Tails learning his self-worth in Sonic Adventure, he still knows deep down he has Sonic to rely upon should worse come to worst--you even get a bit of a glimpse of it in his death quotes in SA2, calling out Sonic's name. And that reliance became the status quo for him in most of the future titles when he spends most of the games afterwards playing a support role to Sonic rather than going on his own adventures to grow himself, so by the time of Sonic Lost World, Tails has his boosted confidence, but he still idolizes Sonic and seeks his approval, which is what leads to their feud in that game. And when Sonic Forces rolls around, watching Sonic lose and be presumed dead shortly after, it breaks him pretty badly and sends him back to his base instinct of cowering for Sonic's protection. It's not until Frontiers that Tails starts to realize that he needs to get away from Sonic in order for him to grow as a person, and his high intelligence starts meshing with his emotions a bit better as he gets older. Granted the characters will never actually properly age in canon, but you can see that his past experiences and seeing the Koco of the past go through similar hardships causes him to look inwards, reflect, and internalize a lot of stuff that's happened over the years. TL;DR: Just because you have a big life lesson epiphany doesn't mean you're going to change overnight. Making those changes takes work, which Tails doesn't really realize until Frontiers. And it's a similar story in the comics, where Tails repeatedly makes similar mistakes and it's not until much later that he begins to realize he needs to start growing up and taking charge for himself.
THIS JUST EARNED MY SUB I SWEAR IM HOLDING HACK TEARS!!!! I loveeee my fox and I love it even more when others see what I see in him and bring it into better words than I EVER COULD!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ Reasons why tails is my FAVORITE CHARACTER EVERRRR IN ALL OF FICTION !!!! I love you SO MUCH for this
Finally, a video to post when people will once again start posting that "He'll get over it" panel as a "proof" that Archie Sonic comics did not understand the assignment. Thank you!
breaking news: Hollywood execs unexpectedly inquired into the status of movie rights for the Archie comics' plot, citng inspiration from "just watching some UA-cam videos"
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Can’t wait for why Archie Eggman is best Eggman
Do Amy next! :D
i wonder who'll be next, and if we'll see coverage on the characters not in the games like bunnie, sally, antoine, this guy, random echidna nurse, rob O' the hedge, this tree sonic leaned on once, sonic's family or ANY of the villains
Dear Lowart I have a question in the Archie Sonic Comics 25 years later I noticed that Amy was missing so what I would like to know is what happened to her🥀
Archie Tails is probably the one version that goes through the most shit emotionally. Like he was actually throwing hands with Sonic the moment his parents were branded as criminals
Agreed
The second one being Tails from Sonic X
@@minraxbeasimp1976 Like, jesus christ, that ending, man, especially in japanese, is so painful to watch for him (helped by the incredible performance of his voice actress).
Don’t forget Fleetway Tails
But did he have to kill his would have been girlfriend and X I don’t care what y’all say, Archie tails did not go through anything like X
Tails' argument with Sonic after he breaks his dad out of jail is honestly super good.
This unbridled frustration with Sonic that had been rising for over 20 issues, finally coming to a head.
Tails letting everything erupt, phuaically taking that anger out on Sonic, and Sonic taking the time to realize that while he never meant to hurt his little bro with what he did, that doesnt excuse the fact that he did.
Actually I think it was longer then 20 issues
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 that's why I said over 20. I haven't read them in a while so I'm just guessing.
Love the running gag of calling this guy, “this guy”
2:02 2:01 2:03 2:04 I disagree but I am fine with it
"this guy"? Oh you mean THAT guy?
I like how Tails even calls him that.
Oh yeah, I remember calling him; "Not Tony Stark."
Yeah but also Rotor is my GOAT
I like Archie tails cause he can throw hands
He's no forces tails that's for sure
He pretty cool
@@Glitchedpixel5 Forces as years ago, let it go man.
@@mray4784nah, I’ll never forgive what forces did to my boy
@@mray4784 Come on man, it's the most recent example of Tails not living up to his potential. Frontiers just puts a band-aid on it by making tails suddenly reflective for no reason and claims it fixed the problem.
I remember reading the Sonic-Tails fight like it was yesterday. And then I saw them "fight" in Lost World and oh the disappointment.
You know what's ironic, when Tails pinned down Sonic to let his parents escape, Rosemary wants to go back for him. But Amadeus told her not to because their son has been fighting with the freedom fighters against Eggman and other villains while they were in space, which shows the amount of faith he has in his son. Basically Amadeus, a man who hasn't seen his son for years, treated him as equal, before Sonic did despite Tails being with him longer.
@devinhamb6586 Amadeus is a general that fought in the Great War. I believe that he has the way to see how good of fighter/mature Tails really is. Also, unlike Sonic, he never saw Tails as a "Kid". (He was robotisazed on the day of Tails' birth. Therefore only saw his as young man who spent majority of his time fighting.)
I like how the strongest characters in the franchise are
Archie sonic
dark enjack knuckles
Titan tails
Fleetway Robotnik
The core 4
I feel like you're forgetting the fleetway universes, crazy supersonic, and his reflection zone counterpart.
@@oddguy5356fleetway supersonic is goat, but unfortunately, he doesn’t really have the feet
Like his best feats are
. Being able to shove a moon into the earth (it was technically a hallucination, but he believes he could do that)
. Being so fast he was able to escape Chrono freeze
But that’s kind of it
He’s at best planet level unfortunately if the comic had continued, he would’ve definitely been much higher
Archie Sonic beats Dark Enerjak with his Ultra Form.
Crazy supersonic, as well as his reflection zone counterpart, can actually just rip chaos energy out of anything when they utilize a green mist.
@@Browhatisyoudoing Actually, Fleetway Super Sonic is stronger than God Robotnik. His feats weren't that good, but that's because we only saw feats from Super Sonic WITHOUT the full power of the True Chaos Emeralds.
Right at the very end of the comic, Fleetway Super Sonic absorbs the True Chaos Emeralds, and so gains all of the same powers God Robotnik wielded.
To further hammer this point home, the Fleetway Comic's writers outright state that Super Sonic is the strongest antagonist in the series, confirming that yes, he was indeed top 1 after that very brief stint at the end.
Though that just makes it all the more interesting to imagine what he'd be like if Sonic got stressed again and transformed... like, I can hardly imagine a Low Multi Super Sonic running around and causing infinitely more havoc than God Robotnik ever did.
I find Archie Tails very interesting, especially in the way that we litterally saw him gradually grow up over the courses of more than 200 issues of comics. Plus he has some batshit insane lore. Great job as always!!!
You actually got me to see redeeming qualities in "House of Cards." Well played.
it's a great arc! people try to compare it to real world monarchy stuff way too much lol, the core character conflict is great
@@haha_hollie The video, "Why Archie Sonic is the Best Sonic" covered that story really well.
@@bowserbreaker2515 agreed
Yeah I liked it too, I mean I think they should have held sonic mote accountable for his actions but I understood the point
It wasn't about Fiona but rather the trust between sonic and tails that sonic has unknowingly been hurting
House of Cards gets better the more of the comic you've binged up to that point. If the last fourteen issues of the Penders era are still fresh in your memory, House of Cards can go so far as to reframe all of their horribleness into the low point of a character arc it then provides the triumphant resolution to.
Tails, much like Donatello of TMNT, has long been my favorite because of the fact he is a brilliant inventor and how important that is for the entire team to succeed.
Yeah. Tails is the Donatello of the Sonic series
I watched your full series retrospective early this year and then read all 500 issues of Archie Sonic/spinoffs cause it was so good. Im glad youre still covering it
I mean that's just what growing up with siblings is like. As a middle child I've witnessed my older brother shift from treating me like a naive kid to just a regular adult and now I'm doing the same for my little brother.
I'm the oldest of 4, my little brother asked if I wanted to go hang out at a bar while I was in town, and I was like WHAT?!?!
It's still weird thinking he's old enough to drink even though we're both in our 30s haha😊
Damn Archie Sonic was probably the best incarnation of all the game cast. Yeah there were downs, but the ups from later on made those downs worth it.
This. The comic is unique in that the inconsistencies during the early era created the depth of character in the later ones. By taking elements generated by writers handing the characters in a loosey-goosey fashion, the Flynn era staff was able to create *believable* characterization unlike any Sonic the Hedgehog canon, or even other works of fiction.
Muddled beginnings made for deeply rich and satisfying endings, and it’s something that people underrate. Because Tails was inconsistent at the beginning, later writers could weave such contradictions into a tapestry of personality that created an extremely deep character study into Tails.
Everyone is inconsistent and has different, often juxtaposed, aspects of their personalities that make us real and unique. The inconsistency turned harmony of Archie Sonic is what makes the narrative and its characters truly special because it reflects our own unique personalities.
@@TheBuckweat33 That perfectly describes why I love this comic. By being so inconsistent and crazy, it feels so satisfying and strangely real once you see the great stories it told.
Don't know about that. It really depends on how much convoluted lore you're willing to sit through
@@TheBuckweat33 I don't think anyone's issue with tails in the comics came from inconsistentcies.
@@fightingmedialounge519 You don't need to read everything before Flynn. Even though you won't understand everything, Flynn gets you up to speed.
He also changes visual, from a little brown fox (which is what most color cubs are) to this orange/yellow fox, I think it’s a nice visualization of him growing up
13:38
I’ll be honest, I love that this arc is based on the game Tails Adventure, as it’s one of my favorite Sonic games.
Nice more Lowart Archie content to binge at work
Tails tends to be consistently really well drawn... and then there is this 4:28
Hilarious
I never liked Archie Tails as much as IDW’s, maybe i should have read more because HOT DAMN this video changed my mind.
Don’t, just incorporate the characterization into your headcanon and give Flynn the credit he deserves.
@@TheBuckweat33 After recently reading the entirety of archie including the Echidna stuff, Universe, Short stories, Sonic X, and even the crossovers...I'd say it's worth giving it a try lmao. There's lows but there are really good moments too that make it worth it. At first I wasn't into the Tails adventure stuff from the beginning of the series, but it grew on me as Tails (eventually) began to grow as a character too, and even in small ways in the beginning as well. So no- it's not a complete waste of time I feel. Recommend reading with a friend or anyone though definitely.
Dude ive been rewatching your 8 hour retrospective and subsequent video essay on loops for 3 weeks.
Happy to be here for a new video!
Man, all of this makes me wish the SatAM cartoon had gotten the chance to do a third season, where Tails was supposed to get his big emergence as a main player.
Great point about Archie never letting an old plot point, even a bad one, go to waste, though; always felt like that was something that gave the series life, *anything* that happened could impact something down the line, no matter how out of nowhere it might seem at first.
Archie basically adapted many of the Freedom fighters into its story and in many ways is based on Sonic SatAM, so I think this has been fixed
@@Abner-gu3ve Oh, of course the characters are there, it's what drew me to the comic in the first place waaaaaay back in the day, but it definitely handled them differently than the show would have in a number of ways.
@ yeah maybe so, haven’t watch the SatAM series in a long time so I don’t remember how the Archie’s version of the Freedom Fighters varied
Sonic: SHUT UP, Tails!
Tails: NO! I'm through listening to you!
I freaking love Archie Tails, equal parts feral genius ready to throw hands and loyal little brother 🧡🧡
I love seeing these other versions of Sonic characters, so I wish we got to see more writer interpretations of these core character traits, like what you see with different superhero comic runs
I never have the time to read Archie, thank you for giving me reason to make time
I was reading Sonic back in these days. Always great to hear your thoughts on the series and characters.
I only read a few archie sonic comics as a kid. They came with the jazzware figures, but the one I remember the most was I think around the time of the tails and khan issue. I don't remember much about it, just that sally was dating khan and the last page had sally and khan walking in the background while sonic walked with amy. I remember being so excited that sonic had comics since I had just gotten my first console (a ps2) and a friend introduced me to the series via sonic unleashed.
I hate Khan so much. Not as much as Sally during that period.
Cant wait for more content from this channel!
Tails is a goated side character
He is not a side character
My head's full of jelly beans!
Sounds delicious!
@@TheEngineer28 Not really...
No jelly beans for you.
I was just about to finish the retrospective, perfect timing! I’ve grown to love the concepts Archie Sonic throws out, and I have you to thank for it.
Absolutely love these videos going into the character arcs of the Archie Sonic cast, been watching since one of the first long videos going into the series and it's all been great to watch
Not now babe new Lowart Archie Sonic essay just dropped
I'm just commenting on this to say I love your vids, man. Keep up the amazing work! 👍
I like every single version of tails cuz he's fluffy and he's cute and he's my favorite!!
Archie Tails is more than a yes-man #2 in the Archie comics
He has his own life and character development, that’s why he’s the best
Great video! Glad you talked about the Tails Adventure 4-part series. Hope you do one on Eggman.
I miss the Archie comics. I started around issue 49, when it was really getting serialized. Rode it until near the end when the whole Flynn thing happened, the echinas got poofed, and the world was rebooting. I got off there as my beloved world was destroyed.
And yeah, Tails was great.
0:14 Everyone’s been “wildy inconsistent” for a Long ass time since 2010s, lol.
But yeah, the Michael Jordan of The Freedom Fighters is awesome! And he’s Jesus too! The beggining of the video is hillarious. 1:14
I feel bad for how stupid Tails’ parents are. Trusting Naugus who made attempts on their son’s life. I don’t blame the kid for losing faith in his mother.
Anyways, I want to bring up Archie Sonic Online which aims to continue the pre-Super Genesis Wave story. I think you’ll enjoy it, especially since they did their own conclusion to the Naugus plotline.
It was a great conclusion. But I wish Geoffrey weren't redeemed and were instead exiled.
@@bowserbreaker2515 ehh he learned his lesson, by the time actual comic was rebooted he already realised he was wrong in trusting naugus, and the characters are nice enough to be merciful towards Eggman, and geoffrey was far less nasty than him. I just hope he struggles with his sins and it isn't jsut brushed aside.
a LOT of people during that time were a bit dumb in just....letting naugus do that
dude is an evil wizard who insitigated a RACE WAR, what did any of you dickheads THINK was gonna happen?
@@sarafontanini7051 What I liked about his story (due to it being cut short), was that it showed you can't always be redeemed. If you do something awful, you pray the price for it.
@@bowserbreaker2515i agreed with you somewhat when the issue came out, but 254 showed pretty clearly that geoffrey isn't off the hook, the other characters still hate him lol.
Tails's writing in sonic frontiers makes sense because Ian Flynn was the writer of the archie comics
House of Cards was the first issue I ever read in a physical book. One of my FAVORITE issues.
Edit: that ending shot of tails was so cute… great video!
Did my main man dirty with that thumbnail 😂
Can't wait for you to see IDW Tails.
I don't exactly have a favorite Sonic character, but I do have a favorite relationship: Sonic and Tail as brothers. Every entry into the franchise gets a pass or fail from me based on how well this relationship is represented. Archie had me worried at times, but came out shining strong!
Another Archie Sonic Lowart Video, hell yeah
I love how these videos always seem to end up at the character's Sonic Universe arc. I can't believe how good some of these were lol
I have always loved these comics despite there sillyness I've watched all these videos keep up the great work!
Having never read the comics, but following the games and feeling like I have a good idea of what his game self should be like if it were written well, I see a lot of differences here, especially in his early characterization, that are intriguing.
I figure if his game self was written well, and the character writing was a focus from the beginning, he would've started off as a very nervous sidekick. Like, he sticks close to Sonic not just to help him, but because he's afraid of being forced to fight on his own, which would lead into the Adventure arc nicely, and that arc would also begin a long running arc of him growing from just "I can handle some things on my own" all the way to the point where Sonic and him feel like equals.
I'd love to see him grow to the point where he's more like current Archie Tails, for sure.
I also feel like they really tried and missed the mark of having the "Sonic and Tails fight, but end up closer than before" thing in Lost World. The writing was already not fantastic, but then you're gonna tell me that you're trying to have the takeaway from the fight be "Sonic needs to trust that he and Tails can handle things together" and then you're going to have the cutscene before the final boss show Tails decked out in dangerous weaponry, and Sonic is just gonna say "I'll handle this" and Tails plays no role in the final boss fight? SUCH a missed opportunity for a Zelda-eque collaborative boss battle to reinforce the themes of cooperation.
Also, seeing Tails' parents for the first time and realizing they kinda look like my character is wild. Cooper really could be like, a parallel universe version of his dad lol
Ian could have so easily wrote Archie Tails into actual Sonic games starting with Frontiers, but it just feels like the growth and the way he was in Archie to be a distant memory. Tails needs all the growth he got in the Archie comics, he really does!
8:26 bro tails looks like the imposter trying to kill someone
Why “this guy” is the most obscure guy.
because he doesn't have much going for him since the role of the tech guy got taken by Tails.
Best birthday gift ever oh my god
Great job keep up the good work
Archi comics got their own insane adaptation with riverdale where archi Andrew’s goes through a misery carousel of pure tramatic madness and he fights a wizard who wants to make a ghost train to bring the world in to an age of darkness after archi and his friends lose because they’re fated to.
ANOTHER LOWART BANGER WOOOOOOO
I’m glad Ian Flynn is writing for the games because at the very least tails can actually have his classic to SA2 arc pay off, but Archie tails will definitely do for now
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Why archie character is the best character
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I think The Best Shadow is either The Shadow from Sonic Prime or The Shadow from Sonic X Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings The Cartoon.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
I was honestly near tears by the end of this look at my absolute favorite character. Tails' growth mirrors my own, from overcompensating for insecurities to learning that the path to real success lies in mutual support with trusted friends. I was really looking forward to this video and Lowart delivered beyond all expectations, thank you!
4:25 you’re my brother, Tails! I love you!
What i think is that he shouldn’t be afraid but he also should be just the tech guy and not go out and fight unless he has to
While closer to the game version of Tails in background, there's a really great mini-arc for post-reboot Tails in the Champions tournament arc that re-iterates several of your points here, as you may know. After being knocked out in the first round by Honey, he's understandably upset at having his pride wounded, but while watching a later fight Sonic helps to cheer him up by reminding him how much of an invaluable teammate Tails is to him. Then, later, Tails is able to get the jump on an escaping Metal Sonic before he gets away with a Chaos Emerald where no one else is able, and times it for when the venue's defenses come back online.
It's great seeing Tails not being judged for being a little petty/moping and later redeeming himself in his own eyes, and the way Sonic declares him the winner is just the cherry on top.
Funny you mentioned the battle bird armada, because appearently they menaced this little fox during;"Tails' sky patrol"! Deep cuts indeed?
the battlekukkus are from tails adventure actually! skypatrol is the one with the witchcarters :D
@haha_hollie . Sorry, still right about deep cuts? They didn't need referencing them, but have.
@@erikbihari3625 yeah, the comics are always full of deep cut stuff its awesome
I learned of the Battle Kukkus from the excellent fan game Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers. Battle Kukku XV is unlockable in that game and appears as a guaranteed rival spawn to Tails in Grand Prix mode!
@@haha_hollie. You know, even idw comics that find use for random bit transformers struggled with hoist!
Watched all of your Archie sonic videos and finally got the motivation to read the actual thing ( Ian Flynn run in particular ) if I enjoy it enough I’ll probably do a full read, thanks for helping me want to read it 😼
Frontiers Tails is my favourite honesty
Yup im glad tails is back to well being tails again
FINALLY! My favorite sonic character gets his due!
Same
Great video, and Archie Tails has always been my favorite version of him!
Archie tails is really awesome and badass I love it so much. 😊
I've been waiting for this
Hearing this I can respect your reasoning why you think Archie Tails is the best Tails
I’ve even reacted to this video
I mean is there really a better tails
Archie tails is the most characterized,matured, and strongest version of tails
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 As awesome as all that sounds, those things (outside of characterization obviously - "characterized" is a very broad term lmao) don't really have an impact on the quality of a character. Example - Sonic from the 2022 movie matures from the 1st movie, has plenty of characterization, and is easily on the stronger side of the Sonics (partly due to the chaos emeralds taking the Sonic Adventure incantation too seriously) - but how many people would say he's better than Sonic CD's Sonic? Or the OVA's? Or any of the Adventure games? Obviously he develops more, but sometimes, believe it or not, development does not define a quality character.
Sure, it can define Tails if you want it to. In Archie he was always going to develop as long as the publication ran long enough - in a sense, developing was his purpose. But in media like the games, it isn't the case. Games need static characters to carry an image of who they are to the next generations - this is why we always see regression after what would be a permanent growth moment in other media.
good lord i talk a lot wtf
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 also no, there is not a better Tails y default, due to modern media turning Tails into hot compounded garbage. All they had to do was work off of the early 2000s and they still messed it up.
@dantefredul6326 ok I see what your saying but the difference here is for Archie the characterization made him even more likable and did a lot more with his character,
Unlike the games fluctuation with his character, Archie tails character grew from both his original personality and onward
The thing with the characterization from the references you used Is tails doesn't really change much in them, sure he goes through more but there never feels like a big change with his personality, it never feels like it sticks to him in any meaningful way nor does it add to his personality
With Archie tails you clearly see him go through changes throughout the issues, in some he becomes less confident, in others he tries to be more independent, but he does change and he dies grow ro become better, eventually he becomes what his game self always dreamed about being, even confident enough to act cocky at times
And this is why I think Archie tails is better, because it upgrades tails by both quaility and quantity
Also we both talk a lot
the children yearn for Archie Mega Man video
🐳
I would love that so much
The children yearn for the mines
It never even crossed my mind to ask for that and now that you've presented it, it's all I want.
There a Archie MegaMan, I need it
Oh shoot, wasnt expecting a video on Tails! I thought Geoffrey or Khan was next.
A neat surprise
My goat finally gets the respect he deserves.
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to read a comic. I mean I like the stories that come from comics like superhero stories and I do find them interesting but yeah you're right this is a really cool and interesting version of Tails
If Archie Tails ever met his modern counterpart I feel like he would backhand him harder than fiona did to him 💀
I doubt it, Frontier Tails and him would get along
Sega did tails and knuckles dirty. So dirty.
@@whateverwhatever4476 Yeah I bet. I was mostly referring Tails during games like Sonic Forces or Sonic lost world.
@@kevinjeffreys967 They did nearly everything dirty, but Tails and Knuckles definitely got one of the some of the worst down grades 😔
Untill frontiers came along and fixed some of those downgrades.@@Dalcop
Finally he's on a new sonic adventure
i never followed the archie comics but i did own a copy of trouble in paradise and really enjoyed it even if i had basically no context. getting that context like ten years later is so fun :) tails is always my GOAT
1:18 i cant with this version of tails 😂
This is so great!
What a perfect summary of our favorite boy
Man, I'm starting to think that I can hear Lowart talk about anything and end up enjoying the video
The House of Cards storyline is goated cuz Tails was actually whooping Sonic’s ass.
I wish Tail's tech knowledge was used more in the Archie comics
"You thought Eggman worked alone?" Ah thumbnail 💀
Sorry
i wanna see a video about "Why Archie Cream is the Best Cream" fr fr
Love these videos
Meanwhile canon tails:
"I gotta believe in myself... OH GOD SONIC HELP ME PLEASE"
The IDW run Tails is fantastic by the way. He's clever, confident, he's skilled and able to physically throw down while still being an intelligent fighter (one scene he calculates the trajectory of a thrown gas bomb on the fly and then catches and tosses it back with his tails). And is consistently the first one Sonic turns too whenever he gets in over his head. Also he's an unrepentant smartass and pragmatist that keeps Sonic grounded with his level headed analysis of everything.
agreed! tails is consistently a highlight of the IDW comics for me
Well, it makes sense that he's written that way considering the context of the writing staff. I can expand if you want. But tl;dr "End-of-Archie Tails with actual screen time", so we don't have to wait for him to develop. Effectively, he's...Tails. Tails, as we knew him from the games -until nonsensical retcons to his abilities and usefulness-
I feel like a lot of folks forget that despite all his tech and book smarts, Tails is still just a pre-teen kid, and lessons don't always stick immediately with them. It takes repetition and re-assertion for certain lessons to be learned permanently, especially ones that shape one's personality. So, even when considering the context of the games and Tails learning his self-worth in Sonic Adventure, he still knows deep down he has Sonic to rely upon should worse come to worst--you even get a bit of a glimpse of it in his death quotes in SA2, calling out Sonic's name.
And that reliance became the status quo for him in most of the future titles when he spends most of the games afterwards playing a support role to Sonic rather than going on his own adventures to grow himself, so by the time of Sonic Lost World, Tails has his boosted confidence, but he still idolizes Sonic and seeks his approval, which is what leads to their feud in that game. And when Sonic Forces rolls around, watching Sonic lose and be presumed dead shortly after, it breaks him pretty badly and sends him back to his base instinct of cowering for Sonic's protection.
It's not until Frontiers that Tails starts to realize that he needs to get away from Sonic in order for him to grow as a person, and his high intelligence starts meshing with his emotions a bit better as he gets older. Granted the characters will never actually properly age in canon, but you can see that his past experiences and seeing the Koco of the past go through similar hardships causes him to look inwards, reflect, and internalize a lot of stuff that's happened over the years.
TL;DR: Just because you have a big life lesson epiphany doesn't mean you're going to change overnight. Making those changes takes work, which Tails doesn't really realize until Frontiers. And it's a similar story in the comics, where Tails repeatedly makes similar mistakes and it's not until much later that he begins to realize he needs to start growing up and taking charge for himself.
THIS JUST EARNED MY SUB I SWEAR IM HOLDING HACK TEARS!!!! I loveeee my fox and I love it even more when others see what I see in him and bring it into better words than I EVER COULD!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Reasons why tails is my FAVORITE CHARACTER EVERRRR IN ALL OF FICTION !!!! I love you SO MUCH for this
Yoo new video just in time for my birthday!
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!
4:25 truly a RWBY Vol 9 moment
One character i really hope u do a video on is Shard
The thumbnail is such a goated reference-
Waitinf for video on Chris Thorndyke
"Sonic, Sally, this is for you.
Yes, even you, this guy"
Finally, a video to post when people will once again start posting that "He'll get over it" panel as a "proof" that Archie Sonic comics did not understand the assignment. Thank you!
breaking news: Hollywood execs unexpectedly inquired into the status of movie rights for the Archie comics' plot, citng inspiration from "just watching some UA-cam videos"
Bro is slowly turning into a sonic channel
4:25
Luigi called. He's pressing charges for plagiarism.
babe wake up new lowart video