THE LIST - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_K3ziSxT9zcUUGCddS4sF1uNJTWHSbOwB1CQX2Rx4Uo Game is known by some publications as "The Adventures of Sir Kicksalot Deathboot in the Land of the Conspicuously Placed Spike Racks".
Boiling Point - Road to Hell. Not even a question. Why made videos about something most people know when you can talk about hidden gems like this one. It's a pity othe Deep Shadows' games are on Steam except this one The other titles? Underrail was criminally underrated and it's getting DLC next year. MAybe VtM Bloodlines, PAth of Exile (I commited a sin and bought stuff for F2P game, something that I never though could be possible),
Judge dredd: Dredd vs Death. It's just a stupid fun game set in the judge dredd universe. I remember having to actually follow protocol and if you break too many laws you get a game over. Pretty fun game.
"And it turns out the spirit in your head is a succubi.....I can feel most of you already opening the Steam game page, but wait a bit....." Still laughing......
Wait you cna be kevin McAllister while being a knight/mage, while using barrels to throw at your enemy’s, using the foot of god to launch enemy’s, cutting chandeliers/hanging coffins to turn you enemy’s to Swiss cheese, and move like doom guy?! How much does this beautiful game cost?!
To provide an answer to the question on how that orc did damage when talking about combat, I actually think what happened there was you took damage from the mage chicks' firebolt, it looks like you can see the explosion on the left side of the screen right in your face. Just a fun little notice
I didn't realize the devs made Dishonored too. Now that vague sense of familiarity about the top tier movement and combat in Dishonored makes a whole lot more sense.
late to the party on this, but when you talk about the glitchy hit detection, you're actually getting hit by your ally's fire bolt. you block the orc correctly. you can see the impact as you turn in that clip
If you liked this one, perhaps you should try the Game "City of Brass". It´s essentially rogue-like DMoM&M with a setting based on arabian mythology. ^^
Shit, it still holds up to this very day 5 years on from the making of this video. I was well into my "playing shows, doing drux, and banging girls" phase of my life during the 2004-2009 period so I missed out on a lot of video games from that era. Didnt knew this even existed.
"And it turns out the spirit in your head is a succubi.....I can feel most of you already opening the Steam game page, but wait a bit....." Still laughing......
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@@bradley9191 Yeah the thing is women actually do behave this way, but only if you are hot. The reason so much bad advice for dating is out there, is because usually the "successful" men giving it are playing an entirely different game.
Well when hearing that it was made by the developers of Dishonored I felt like I could definitely see the similarities. I have admittedly not played Dishonored myself but I think I have a pretty accurate idea about what kind of games they are. So I don't know for sure but I think you can do similar combat in those. I guess that the same developer using it again isn't exactly "catching on" but atleast it's not true that no modern games retain that gameplay. Oh yeah personally I feel like it's kinda similar to how Zelda Botw allows you to fight enemies in creative ways with the tools they've given you.
@@DajuOnUA-cam Yeah man, I hugely recommend the Dishonored games if you think the combat looks fun. You have lots of different tactics and tools to use, and you only need to do a cursory UA-cam search to see how crazy people can get with it. The stealth mechanics are also solid, particularly in the second game. Most of all, though, the world and smoothness of the gameplay all-around makes Dishonored 1 probably my most-replayed game.
Oh hey man, didnt expect to see you here. I'm a big fan, the immersive chapstick mod you made totally changed the way I think about games as an art form.
Its Over Everyone, I have the High Ground (hell thats how I beat the final boss, hide in the rafters and take potshots till he finally died, BECAUSE I WAS NOT FIGHTING UNDER THE WATCH OF THE GIANT DRAGON!)
@@richardvlasek2445 I think the source engine can't really understand "passive" monster entities that are aggressive by nature. After a couple of time they WILL go back to their normal programming and attack.
My favorite part of Home Alone was when Kevin lured that one orc to the top of the stairs, slipped it back down with an ice spell, and then leaped on top of it, beating it to death with a fire staff. That was a good movie.
6:33 The attack was actually blocked. When Mandalore turns around, you can see the remains of a fireball spell hitting something, and that girl whatever her name is I forget. What happened was that she attempted to cast at the orc, but miscast and hit Mandalore at the same time it looked like the orc hit him.
also could be as intended and there is missing an animation, as a melee skill allows you and possibly fighter enemies like orks to occasionally break parry (Melee Skill Lvl 3: Break Parry: Enables Flurry of Blows to sometimes break enemy parry.) In this case it definetely was the fire spell, though.
“Sareth is remarkably bland, and I don’t know why.” Oh, I do. It’s because the writers knew the only real story options involved either damning the world or saving it, so Sareth was written to be a guy who would just as easily choose either option. So, you’ll regularly see him saying that killing people is bad, only to 20 minutes later say that he wants nothing more than to eat the hearts of his enemies. A character like this is only able to not be bland if the story acknowledges this bipolarism, but Dark Messiah not only doesn’t, it can’t, as the only character who spends enough time with Sareth to even potentially notice this, is the succubus inside his head, who was designed to love and worship him, so she’d never say anything. Or, I could simply be overthinking it, and they spent 90% of their development time designing the combat, AI, and environments, only to at the last minute realize they needed a story to link everything, and not upset the general world and lore of might and magic. It’s probably the latter, honestly.
i'd always figured he wasn't exactly a person. More like, a ghoul. Just some body that your demon dad brought to life. I know there's nothing that indicates this, but it's not like there's much of a backstory. You just wake up-mid mission
@@Hemostat I've played the "prequel" story to this game (HoMM5 and its two expansions) and Sareth is supposed to be a half-human, half-demon born from, uh, non-consensual love-making between the queen of the human empire and the Demon Sovereign. He was taken from his mother at birth and that's about as much info as you get in those games. I haven't played Dark Messiah so I assume he was kept by remnants of the same demon-led conspiracy that got his mother kidnapped and briefly took over the empire until Arantir exposed them and a rather exotic coalition of human rebels, orcs, dwarves and wizards finally took them down. BTW don't play the HoMM5 campaigns, the game itself is good, if a little clunky in places, but the story is bad and the stock campaigns are an exercise in tedium.
Player: "I throw a barrel at the Eye of Sauron!" Dungeon master: "oook.. You know you can't kill it right? Buuuuut... Roll for it?" Player: "Natural 20!" Dungeon master: "Eeeeh... The eye gets a lot of splinters and is now completely blind...." Player: "RUN FRODO, RUN!"
We started out as 4 travellers, trying to complete a couple of quest but ended up decapitating Goblins, using their blood as war paint for our faces and drinking their urine. Poor DM.
I am reminded of a one-off where the DM thought I was being chaotic stupid when I started collecting squishy bits from the undead we were slaying. Climactic showdown with the necromancer and his undead minotaur was much easier when the necromancer interrupted his invocation by vomiting around the ghoul eyeball I managed to toss in his mouth.
I bought it new in a box and it was one of the first to allow a CD key to activate a steam version. Lost my fancy skins but got one hell of a time in multiplayer as compensation. Not enough games have copied this class balance or melee-hybrid system.
Holy shit. I'm in love with the combat system in this game. It hardly to find any game that allow you to use environment or objects around you as a weapon. This is like Jackie Chan's movie where he keep picking random stuff up and throw it around.
Ummm, thats a lot of dudes... *looks around* Barrels on a platform, that'll work *Breaks a support and snags a barrel as the rest roll over the orcs, and then throws the barrel at the last one standing* Problem solved The best part is that fights can just devolve into picking up the same five rocks over and over as you run in circles throwing them at people's heads, and it works
Nearly 15 years old and still not beaten by modern production regarding the melee combat gameplay nor the use of physics. If only Arkane could do another Arx Fatalis with this fighting system and a modern take on their magic gameplay, it would probably be a blast to play. I can only dream about this.
BlackPantsLegion Yes its amazing! Even though i played the german version which made the game very complicated and i didnt know what the fuck i had to do i somehow finished it. 10/10
9:46, there is a way to get that armor without telekinesis, in the yard with a box chain pendulum thingie there's a vertical ladder to the castle wall, from there to the left. Man, I've played a lot of this game, should probably play it some more.
Alternately you can scale up the cliffs outside the yard and enter that way. Probably the easiest way to clear that area (besides taking the sewers and skipping it) since you can then fight the black guards from a big height advantage, kick them off the ladder as they climb up to attack you, etc.
This game really needed a sequel. Even if the story was unrelated the game play would be enough. Also, lightning bolt on mage in multiplayer was a tad overpowered but smart rogues could hard counter you. The real top tier class was archer. Even though archery was meh in single player you became a god in mp with drill arrows. Drill arrows tended to be harder to land on target because of their projectile arc but when you landed a head shot it was an instant kill. They also did more damage the farther they traveled giving you a great sense of accomplishment on hitting far targets.
You should try dishonored 2, its made by the same developers of dark messiah, its basically a dark messiah set in a fictional '800, im playing it and i feel like im playing dm.
@@cindervee478 I agree that it can be jarring and slow. However, a lot of games would have the attack animation cancel any prior one to keep the combat snappy and fast. Idk if this one has it but it's a good way of having both flashy animations and keeping the combat fun!
SUPERVANS “And that, kids, was the story of how I killed an entire orc battalion by throwing barrels at them.” “Supper time! We’re having parboiled human essence!”
A ‘Kha-Beleth is freed’ timeline would be so interesting, yet so fucked-up. Would Isabel just be discarded as an army of demons cleaves through Ashan? Hell, would Sheogh’s residents just muscle in and demand their own territory?
I'm pretty sure you got the stealth part backwards. I seem to recall the ring being filled with light as being indicated you're completely hidden, and the less full the ring is with the white segments, the less hidden you are.
Real talk. This game also has some the freakiest spiders in video game history. These scuttly lads can actually creep up on you along the walls and ceiling. Quite rare for spiders in games I've noticed.
Give it a shot, its rough around the edges, but overall age is treated it well, and the combat system largely holds up, if only because encouraging you to be a dirty dealing dickbag in a fight is always great
ton of fun, so much ways to dispose of your enemies, the environment and weapons are endless + adrenaline-boosted spells are way too much fun (i find myself just spamming infinite adrelaline cheat to be able to throw enemies to the skies with telekinesis)
When I was a kid I dreamt about having the combat feel of Dark Messiah in a TES open world. It would have been infinite fun. Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion and Morrowind but it was still garbage with the combat.
Archery and stealth builds work fine, once you get to critical strike that is. And really the mid to late game bows are the ones that you should be looking for, I noticed in this video you were using the rope bow to fight a death knight. The rope bow is purely utility and does NO damage. When you get to the higher tier points of the stealth abilities you can really walk around levels with impunity. It's perfectly fine. Just pick off important enemies before you inevitably get spotted, then dagger flurry and kick your way through the game for the rest of the time.
I would disagre with you DMM&M suffer for heavy cause of Red Herring. Core mechanic if the game is to play with environment, magic branch of skill tree suport that, but combat branch is not realated with it whatsoever. You may thinks that is good idea to spent point on it, but in reality you waste those precios point. There is easy to fix solution here, instead in example: power(vanila) give you passive bonus to attack, wich don't change nothing power(in my) if higher level that bigger object you can grab and throw with more streng.
TheSharpmarksman As much as I hate SJW stuff, I cant agree with you. there was nothing of that nature in DotO. It simply gave Outsider personality and background. I know how you feel, but Arkane is not into this shit
I played it first when it came out, years later I played Dishonored and it felt oddly familiar. Turns out it was made from the same studio. Welp, time for a re-install.
I bought Dark Messiah about a week ago and just beat it tonight (I've been taking my time), and my only wish is that it was longer. Or that they made a proper sequel since there's so much potential for expanding on the story, especially if you picked the mid-ground option at the end.
Ah Dark Messiah, such a great game. And kinda showed what Arkane are best at: Fluid, expansive gameplay, interesting level design which compliments your fighting system and cool secret areas. Also what they - to this day - can't do: Interesting, deep characters with actual development, gripping story archs or world building. Hell, Dark Messiah was so much better than Dishonored in the character departement. Although that doesn't really say much. Great video as usual and awesome choice of music, I heard some Stronghold and War of the Ring music.
Hanfgurkenhasser I disagree, but only about worldbuilding. I think Dishonored universe is fantastic, probably one of my personal favorites. But the story and characters are meh, you're right.
Something like "dont ever kill anyone or you will get a bad ending" made me hate that game, it doesnt force you to use stealth, but i uninstalled dishonored after a few non-lethal levels. Havent even tried sword fight or guns, but i got so sick from that boring teleport-crawling-choking sealth, that i dont ever want to instal it again. Dark messiah on the other hand does not force you to do do anything specific throu the all game, thus i had sooo mutch more fun in dark messiah
Andres Kozuhhovski Well I suggest you not focusing on getting a "good" ending and enjoying yourself. Honestly, the story even becomes a little interesting this way, and the main character gets a semblance of an actual arc. You are criticizing the game for giving you more choice and more content.
+Andres Kozuhhovski It gives you a different ending. Whether you think it's bad is up to you. If you want another ending you'll have to go with the non-lethal path. Everything makes sense as well.
Oh, I absolutely loved how the character moved! THe camera moved along with the body, "headbobing", you can see the whole body not being tied firmly to where you look. It just adds a lot to the immersion.
I’ve beaten this game a bunch of times and still I love it. It’s so charming. Just don’t play it on the highest difficulty level, where enemies just have a zillion health and standard combat doesn’t work at all anymore. On the moderate to hard difficulties you can use a combination of both and it’s fun and rewarding.
@@monsterlandproductions3407Nah, it's shite. I tried to build a pure fighter and got fucked. Past a certain point I had to cheese every single enemy, including the mages, because the weapons just didn't hurt them, but they constantly killed me in two hits. Sponges have no place in this kind of game.
This game just has the most enjoyable bullshit story. I just can't take it seriously when you spend over 70 procent of the game kicking orcs off steep ledges. And some of the dialogue between the player character and the demon is just... fun? Bad? So horrifically bad that it makes me wanna tear my ears off sometimes? Yes, yes, and yes! "I'll just lower the pretty little gang plank, then."
cmon that part was fucking amazing. sareth was fucking aware of how cringy it is what xana constantly keeps saying. i think that part made it golden and feel relatable. in other games or movies the main character either ignores such characters or finds it normal or doesnt notice that they are weird. the fact that hes making fun of her is just very well made imo. also i laughed my ass of when he said that xD
Aw yes. The game of my childhood. And it's truly an amazing game. Every time I replay that game I find something new, that I haven't explored before. But every time I reinstall it (I'm russian) everything is in russian EXCEPT ZANNA. She's having german voice lines. I wonder if it is intended ;)
different pop culture/ nazi memes somewhat known but are not part of folklore in Russia, it's porn reference. vintage German porn was first introduction to such kind of movies in SU. So "I saw this in one german movie" kind of joke is what everybody will understand on Russia, except maybe modern kids
The game itself seems to push you to being something of a multi-class kind of character. You shouldn't be limited to just blades and you shouldn't be limited using magic. You're given the option to be like a Fighter-Mage kind of character. Or even a Fighter-Thief, whatever you wish. You aren't being forced down one path or another, but rather you are meant to cover your bases by taking multiple abilities and skills from each path. Side Note: Xana is best girl for both Good and Bad endings.
@@imfunnyiswear1490 I think you switched those around. Leana is trash tier, Xana's low mid. Higher if you're familiar with her lore from HoMM5. For the uninitiated, Xana was a human sorceress who found her betrothed to be cheating on her, responded by summoning imps into his robes while he was wearing them, and got burned at the stake for demonology. Woke up as a succubus, and quickly developed a reputation as being ever so... Off, for a succubus. By which I mean she's a succubus who doesn't lie (she may not tell the whole truth, but she never knowingly tells an untruth), and the other demons think she's weird for being a romantic and downright prudish by succubi standards.
@@passingrando6457 The girl has a whole lore background! I've been replaying this game for a decade but literally never thought of googling for stuff in the homm universe outside the game. Thank you
Seems like there were a lot of underrated old Source games like this, and Vampire Masquerade Bloodlines. This one clearly wanted to play with the physics stuff though since that supposed to be neat back then when source was new.
I mean this is probably the best video for someone to bring up you getting *kicked* from something. Because, you know. The...the - yeah okay I'll leave.
The funny thing is that even though I saved Leanna in each playthrough I kept choosing Xana. I think even though she isn't very nice when talking about others, she saves your life and is loyal to you (dispute the whole "demons are pure evil"). So it felt wrong to take a holy water bath to get rid of her. Also I didn't like how quick Leanna is at attacking you just because you didn't listen to her demands. I SAVED you from being eaten by a GAINT SPIDER! Let me have a sucubus waifu!😖
6:33 - You know what i suspect what happened there? It could very well be that it was not the Enemy who landed that hit despite you having the shield up, since a second later, you can see a faint red color which lets me assume your "Partner" that tagged along with you, just shot off a Fireball, which was meant for your Enemy but instead also did hit you, which in the end resulted in that hit, which you thought occured because the Enemy cut through your defense.
This game reminds me of those early days of next gen gaming, finally we got to the 360/ps3 era. 3D graphics full swing and things are starting to actually look and feel like we always wanted growing up. reminds me of the Darkness, Prey, The Condemned... Fun Games with really smart/funny AI!!
That clip you showed up, when the orc "glitched" through your shield. It wasn't a glitch, there was a female mage behind you that threw a fireball at you.
Five entire years later, Skyrim came out with 10K times a bigger budget. And the combat system doesn't even come close to that of Dark Messiah! If the degradation of the Gaming Industry ever came into question, this is proof, right here and there!
I don't get motion sickness, but I still hate headbobbing. In my opinion, it's seemingly always overdone and entirely unrealistic, like when characters' heads bounce up and down while they're walking (which is not what happens when you walk) or how in this game, the character's head turns sideways when they strafe; who does that?
I bought it in retail on the first week it was released. I finished it many times through the years and it is still on of the most enjoyable experiences i ever had with a game. Awesome graphics and atmosphere, Source physics and great melee combat combine together to give you an awesome game.
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Game is known by some publications as "The Adventures of Sir Kicksalot Deathboot in the Land of the Conspicuously Placed Spike Racks".
I see you don't have Earth 21X0 series or Guild 2 on the list. Should totally add them.
When you were trying to block that orcs hit your love interest hit you with a fireball
Boiling Point - Road to Hell.
Not even a question.
Why made videos about something most people know when you can talk about hidden gems like this one.
It's a pity othe Deep Shadows' games are on Steam except this one
The other titles? Underrail was criminally underrated and it's getting DLC next year. MAybe VtM Bloodlines, PAth of Exile (I commited a sin and bought stuff for F2P game, something that I never though could be possible),
Why did you use AoM music? is it an omen of things to come?
Judge dredd: Dredd vs Death. It's just a stupid fun game set in the judge dredd universe. I remember having to actually follow protocol and if you break too many laws you get a game over. Pretty fun game.
"And it turns out the spirit in your head is a succubi.....I can feel most of you already opening the Steam game page, but wait a bit....."
Still laughing......
He wasn't wrong though :)
I really wasn’t expecting it, I’m in the same boat as you.
Already did open the Steam page even before this came out, but never did that for the demon lady.
when I was a wee lad I downloaded her game model to be part of my uh...adventures in Garry's Mod
Wait you cna be kevin McAllister while being a knight/mage, while using barrels to throw at your enemy’s, using the foot of god to launch enemy’s, cutting chandeliers/hanging coffins to turn you enemy’s to Swiss cheese, and move like doom guy?!
How much does this beautiful game cost?!
Assuming you haven't already looked at this point, it's only €4.99 on Steam. Should be as much in dollares if you use those instead.
this game needs to be remastered, its a true gem.
To provide an answer to the question on how that orc did damage when talking about combat, I actually think what happened there was you took damage from the mage chicks' firebolt, it looks like you can see the explosion on the left side of the screen right in your face. Just a fun little notice
I bought this game in a Steam sale after watching your review months ago. Haven't played it yet, but I will eventually.
Holy crap, I’ve seen Mandy’s videos multiple times and yet I somehow missed this one.
That second barrel throw in the intro had me laughing so hard. Quarantine might be getting to me at this point.
One of the best games to me. Since back then I haven't seen overall better fantasy RPG, from which I have played at least.
Just grabbed the game for $1.84 usd with the summer sale. Pretty excited :)
I didn't realize the devs made Dishonored too. Now that vague sense of familiarity about the top tier movement and combat in Dishonored makes a whole lot more sense.
late to the party on this, but when you talk about the glitchy hit detection, you're actually getting hit by your ally's fire bolt. you block the orc correctly. you can see the impact as you turn in that clip
The yell at 7:47 got me cracking up hard
10:45 Age of Mythology music?
I love that music and the game
Stronghold music on intro, nice.
Man, you can really feel the proto stages of what would become Dishonored with this game lol.
Well dishonored is made by same people
Its going to be amazing seeing this game in a new light after the news from Ubisoft today!
What news?
@@angusmuir6180 Ubisoft has given a blank check to this game's modders to essentially remake it with an SDK, RTX and co-op features.
Damn this was made by the guy’s who made Dishonored!? I thought the gameplay seemed familiar but damn, did not expect that!
Love stronghold music in background.
If you liked this one, perhaps you should try the Game "City of Brass". It´s essentially rogue-like DMoM&M with a setting based on arabian mythology. ^^
Shit, it still holds up to this very day 5 years on from the making of this video. I was well into my "playing shows, doing drux, and banging girls" phase of my life during the 2004-2009 period so I missed out on a lot of video games from that era. Didnt knew this even existed.
"The story KICKS off..." made me chuckle^^
"And it turns out the spirit in your head is a succubi.....I can feel most of you already opening the Steam game page, but wait a bit....."
Still laughing......
You used age of mythology soundtrack i love it
"i seem to be surrounded by women who want things from me " lol
we all are, we all are...
xxjez I’m not. They all run away. Wanna trade?
Randomly watching video after video from Mandalore and here's Electric Messiah cover art on avatar. Cheers! :D
i found that part pretty great for a video game. the main character was very relatable for once
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Sareth: *breathes*
Xana: That’s hot
Dark Messiah in a nutshell
Tfw no Xana irl
@@StrikeWarlock I feel your pain from the bottom of my heart my man
This is what being attractive probably feels like
@@bradley9191 Yeah the thing is women actually do behave this way, but only if you are hot. The reason so much bad advice for dating is out there, is because usually the "successful" men giving it are playing an entirely different game.
Lawful Mandalore vs Chaotic Sseth
This game will bring out your inner trickster.
Sseth gets the bet, that lovable African warlord...
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Or executioner, either way you'll end up feeling like a bad ass with a space between for punction.
@@jeck988 So basically Mandy still gets his money
Blank Blank he do but he does it with a lack of sseths finesse. The merchant guild is most displeased
It is honestly a shame that no other games really picked up on this type of combat system, using environment and physics to your advantage.
Dying Light utilizes a lot of similar mechanics.
Well when hearing that it was made by the developers of Dishonored I felt like I could definitely see the similarities.
I have admittedly not played Dishonored myself but I think I have a pretty accurate idea about what kind of games they are.
So I don't know for sure but I think you can do similar combat in those. I guess that the same developer using it again isn't exactly "catching on" but atleast it's not true that no modern games retain that gameplay.
Oh yeah personally I feel like it's kinda similar to how Zelda Botw allows you to fight enemies in creative ways with the tools they've given you.
@@DajuOnUA-cam Yeah man, I hugely recommend the Dishonored games if you think the combat looks fun. You have lots of different tactics and tools to use, and you only need to do a cursory UA-cam search to see how crazy people can get with it. The stealth mechanics are also solid, particularly in the second game. Most of all, though, the world and smoothness of the gameplay all-around makes Dishonored 1 probably my most-replayed game.
Bioshock
Botw?
Fuckin' hell that combat system looks Legendary
Oh hey man, didnt expect to see you here. I'm a big fan, the immersive chapstick mod you made totally changed the way I think about games as an art form.
Oh look, it's the owl man
You are a Raider!Legendary!
it is man, never had so much fun playin' a fighting game like this, good for creativity
This is what I was hoping Skyrim would have before it came out...
In this game you can feel like Kenobi on high ground
Its Over Everyone, I have the High Ground (hell thats how I beat the final boss, hide in the rafters and take potshots till he finally died, BECAUSE I WAS NOT FIGHTING UNDER THE WATCH OF THE GIANT DRAGON!)
NMF He used the force.
You are a bold one
I love how in the goblin area, if you didn't hurt any of them, they just chill with you and don't even think of attacking you.
Wait, wait, wait. Really? I was always attacked first !
as a person that stood afk next to the goblins for like an hour, after some time they just attack you anyways
@@enlightenedterrestrial Cauldron Joti?
@@rawovunlapin8201 Yep, that's my name. Rawov Un Lupin? :D
@@richardvlasek2445 I think the source engine can't really understand "passive" monster entities that are aggressive by nature.
After a couple of time they WILL go back to their normal programming and attack.
My favorite part of Home Alone was when Kevin lured that one orc to the top of the stairs, slipped it back down with an ice spell, and then leaped on top of it, beating it to death with a fire staff.
That was a good movie.
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Sounds about right.
I mean, he did use electricity to fry off Marv's skin until he was nothing but a skeleton.
No, really. That happened in Home Alone 2.
*Is.* Is a good movie.
Oh, yeah, love that cartoon-like skeleton scene.
@@dorpth *"AHH!"*
- Marv
6:33
The attack was actually blocked. When Mandalore turns around, you can see the remains of a fireball spell hitting something, and that girl whatever her name is I forget. What happened was that she attempted to cast at the orc, but miscast and hit Mandalore at the same time it looked like the orc hit him.
also could be as intended and there is missing an animation, as a melee skill allows you and possibly fighter enemies like orks to occasionally break parry
(Melee Skill Lvl 3: Break Parry: Enables Flurry of Blows to sometimes break enemy parry.) In this case it definetely was the fire spell, though.
Dark Messiah broke new ground.
I watched the orc falling down the cliff and i clapped
that meme... I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!111!!
IT TOOK TWELVE YEARS TO MAKE!
Is this hack replacing the other hacks?
But can you see a cyclope ballsack?
and then the cliff clapped.
What the fuck, this looks great.
11:56 - lol.
inb4, top rated comment
I love you Joseph.
THE CHAD KNIGHT
collab with mandalore????
@Shammy
3 way collab when?
PS: second channel?
You really like that electrocuted Marv soundbite, don't you?
Goddamn it thank you, I've been wondering where that is from.
its in almost every mandalore video as a recurring easter egg. i love it
Who doesn't like it?
Its like civvie and the "nice model!" Clip
“Sareth is remarkably bland, and I don’t know why.”
Oh, I do. It’s because the writers knew the only real story options involved either damning the world or saving it, so Sareth was written to be a guy who would just as easily choose either option.
So, you’ll regularly see him saying that killing people is bad, only to 20 minutes later say that he wants nothing more than to eat the hearts of his enemies. A character like this is only able to not be bland if the story acknowledges this bipolarism, but Dark Messiah not only doesn’t, it can’t, as the only character who spends enough time with Sareth to even potentially notice this, is the succubus inside his head, who was designed to love and worship him, so she’d never say anything.
Or, I could simply be overthinking it, and they spent 90% of their development time designing the combat, AI, and environments, only to at the last minute realize they needed a story to link everything, and not upset the general world and lore of might and magic.
It’s probably the latter, honestly.
i'd always figured he wasn't exactly a person. More like, a ghoul. Just some body that your demon dad brought to life. I know there's nothing that indicates this, but it's not like there's much of a backstory. You just wake up-mid mission
I'll pick the former, thank you very much.
Who GIVES a fuck when the game has you kicking dudes over cliffs and shit?
tbh I'm still crushing on Xara 13 years later
@@Hemostat I've played the "prequel" story to this game (HoMM5 and its two expansions) and Sareth is supposed to be a half-human, half-demon born from, uh, non-consensual love-making between the queen of the human empire and the Demon Sovereign. He was taken from his mother at birth and that's about as much info as you get in those games. I haven't played Dark Messiah so I assume he was kept by remnants of the same demon-led conspiracy that got his mother kidnapped and briefly took over the empire until Arantir exposed them and a rather exotic coalition of human rebels, orcs, dwarves and wizards finally took them down.
BTW don't play the HoMM5 campaigns, the game itself is good, if a little clunky in places, but the story is bad and the stock campaigns are an exercise in tedium.
The DnD session everyone wants: Lord of the Rings
The DnD session everyone gets: Dark Messiah of might magic
... and tbh i'm totally okay with that
Player: "I throw a barrel at the Eye of Sauron!"
Dungeon master: "oook.. You know you can't kill it right? Buuuuut... Roll for it?"
Player: "Natural 20!"
Dungeon master: "Eeeeh... The eye gets a lot of splinters and is now completely blind...."
Player: "RUN FRODO, RUN!"
Honestly, players who use tactics straight from a game like this would be awesome.
We started out as 4 travellers, trying to complete a couple of quest but ended up decapitating Goblins, using their blood as war paint for our faces and drinking their urine. Poor DM.
I am reminded of a one-off where the DM thought I was being chaotic stupid when I started collecting squishy bits from the undead we were slaying.
Climactic showdown with the necromancer and his undead minotaur was much easier when the necromancer interrupted his invocation by vomiting around the ghoul eyeball I managed to toss in his mouth.
@@animeotaku307 You would need a DM who was more detailed with their descriptions so you could look for stuff to interact with mid-combat.
Ahh, the adventures of Ser Kickalot
Time for a reinstall
Theres no way out we are trapped !
(Proceeds to kicks servant down stairs to land on bandit)
Damn its 4 am and im reinstalling it myself, my 1st steam game from late 2007 year xD
for the record: this his how you escape that situation correctly
ua-cam.com/video/nO-m1kXknVM/v-deo.html
I bought it new in a box and it was one of the first to allow a CD key to activate a steam version. Lost my fancy skins but got one hell of a time in multiplayer as compensation.
Not enough games have copied this class balance or melee-hybrid system.
"In Dark Messiah you're Brendan Fraser"
JUST
Holy shit. I'm in love with the combat system in this game. It hardly to find any game that allow you to use environment or objects around you as a weapon. This is like Jackie Chan's movie where he keep picking random stuff up and throw it around.
Ummm, thats a lot of dudes... *looks around* Barrels on a platform, that'll work *Breaks a support and snags a barrel as the rest roll over the orcs, and then throws the barrel at the last one standing* Problem solved
The best part is that fights can just devolve into picking up the same five rocks over and over as you run in circles throwing them at people's heads, and it works
Don't forget immortal slipping on the ice trick. You can defeat an entire batalion that way :D
Was that an insult or praise to jackie chan lol
Play dishonored then
Nearly 15 years old and still not beaten by modern production regarding the melee combat gameplay nor the use of physics. If only Arkane could do another Arx Fatalis with this fighting system and a modern take on their magic gameplay, it would probably be a blast to play. I can only dream about this.
Too bad Bethesda and Microsoft are gonna force them to make co-op shooters from now on.
they fucked up the redfall
You should try out Kingdom Come Deliverance. The combat system isn't intuitive like this but the overall gameplay is good
@@bizznick444joe7 I liked it very much, one of my favourite game without a doubt 👌
Me: Subscribes to Sseth
UA-cam: Recommends me _literally_ every video from his second channel.
Second channel?
MannyJazzcats MandaloreGaming
@@norad_clips ah bit of a woosh over my old noggin there lol
Lol! I’ve just recently been made aware of the connection between the two I mean the long running joke. It’s great I love seeing it in the comments. 👍
The Adventures of Sir Kicksalot Deathboot
I love your avatar
Seriously who the fuck puts a Spikerack in his livingroom infront of his fireplace?
This game pleases me. A lot. I must try it now.
I reckon this'd be right up your alley, Tex.
I beg you to do a LP for it... It's amazing.
maybe
Oh shit maybe i should reinstall the multiplayer mode =) game is epic.
BlackPantsLegion Yes its amazing! Even though i played the german version which made the game very complicated and i didnt know what the fuck i had to do i somehow finished it. 10/10
9:46, there is a way to get that armor without telekinesis, in the yard with a box chain pendulum thingie there's a vertical ladder to the castle wall, from there to the left. Man, I've played a lot of this game, should probably play it some more.
Alternately you can scale up the cliffs outside the yard and enter that way. Probably the easiest way to clear that area (besides taking the sewers and skipping it) since you can then fight the black guards from a big height advantage, kick them off the ladder as they climb up to attack you, etc.
This game really needed a sequel. Even if the story was unrelated the game play would be enough.
Also, lightning bolt on mage in multiplayer was a tad overpowered but smart rogues could hard counter you. The real top tier class was archer. Even though archery was meh in single player you became a god in mp with drill arrows. Drill arrows tended to be harder to land on target because of their projectile arc but when you landed a head shot it was an instant kill. They also did more damage the farther they traveled giving you a great sense of accomplishment on hitting far targets.
I know right ?
a sequel with Isabella in it.
You should try dishonored 2, its made by the same developers of dark messiah, its basically a dark messiah set in a fictional '800, im playing it and i feel like im playing dm.
@@Riverwood_trader Dishonored is more Steampunk+Magic.
i think a remake would be better.
@@Riverwood_trader does it have a kick button tho?
Can we have a moment and appreciate those slick weapon switch / draw animations ? For a game that old they look so cool
Honestly this game is basically full of bugs in all the right places, and polish in enough places that between that and the bugs it's a great game.
It's a bit on the annoying side when you're in a fight and have to switch from your spells to your weapon
@@cindervee478 I agree that it can be jarring and slow. However, a lot of games would have the attack animation cancel any prior one to keep the combat snappy and fast. Idk if this one has it but it's a good way of having both flashy animations and keeping the combat fun!
And here I just commented how much I was reminded of Corvo's sword animation. Good lookin' out!
@@gabby3036 Yes definitely! I knew they felt familiar for some reason ahahah
I like to think they went on to form a wholesome nuclear family with evil dad making a really great grandpa.
I can imagine that dad retelling his conquests to his grandchildren as bed time stories.
SUPERVANS “And that, kids, was the story of how I killed an entire orc battalion by throwing barrels at them.”
“Supper time! We’re having parboiled human essence!”
Funny thing is, according to HoMM lore, Xana is a hopeless romantic despite being a succubus, so she'd probably be down for that.
A ‘Kha-Beleth is freed’ timeline would be so interesting, yet so fucked-up. Would Isabel just be discarded as an army of demons cleaves through Ashan? Hell, would Sheogh’s residents just muscle in and demand their own territory?
Jesus, it's the Bronn of the Blackwater Simulator I've always wanted.
"You sir have no honor!"
"No."
* points to giant hole with a 5000ft drop *
"But he did."
Ahahah lol right!
This game was ahead of it's time
like every arkane game, look at Arx fatalis, 2000 game blew my mind yesterday.
Source engine is nice for physics.
This Game is ahead of our Time
One week, 6 playthroughs and 72 hours of playtime later I would like to thank you from the deepest of my heart for showing me this amazing game.
I'm pretty sure you got the stealth part backwards. I seem to recall the ring being filled with light as being indicated you're completely hidden, and the less full the ring is with the white segments, the less hidden you are.
14:16 "I seem to be surrounded by women who want things from me."
Now, there's a sentence I have never uttered in my entire life :'(
It still upsets me there hasn't been a first person game with sword play as good as this one since it was released.
Mordhau?
Condemned criminal origins is kind of close. Except in that game it's pipes and crowbars rather than swords
shadow warrior is pretty great.
Vermintide?
And now you can play: Warhammer 40K: Darktide
17 nov or 30 nov depending if you pre ordered.
Real talk. This game also has some the freakiest spiders in video game history. These scuttly lads can actually creep up on you along the walls and ceiling. Quite rare for spiders in games I've noticed.
"Well be together, forever"
I don't se any red flags here.
Literally made me laugh out loud.
I've been considering buying this for forever.
JUST DO IT!!!
Only 5€ on steam xP
You should get it, it's a really good game, one of my favourites.
Give it a shot, its rough around the edges, but overall age is treated it well, and the combat system largely holds up, if only because encouraging you to be a dirty dealing dickbag in a fight is always great
K R E AL
ton of fun, so much ways to dispose of your enemies, the environment and weapons are endless + adrenaline-boosted spells are way too much fun (i find myself just spamming infinite adrelaline cheat to be able to throw enemies to the skies with telekinesis)
13:48 - when your Dad is out of tp and hears you walking past the bathroom door
"I seem to be surrounded by women who want something from me"
Me at 12: I'm in trouble
Me at 19: Awesome
Me at 30: I'm in trouble
Probably you at 40: Meh
Xana is the only waifu
Ponyyish Bros before Hoes amirite?
The real hero was MGTOW.
Sky Kun
The sing she saids when you purified yourself wooo that was something
I just made the same comment, pretty much, then scrolled down and saw your's. I see you, too, are a man of culture, Sky.
Oh man, that game was pure sex. If only it was longer, with some more environments, enemies and less boring spider levels
the spiders creeped the shit out of me! :(
@@thomasphil543 he meant the game itself is like sex.... Fun.
@@magosexploratoradeon6409 And its combat systems is like a mini goddamn orgasm.
@@thomasphil543 To its detriment
When I was a kid I dreamt about having the combat feel of Dark Messiah in a TES open world.
It would have been infinite fun.
Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion and Morrowind but it was still garbage with the combat.
Archery and stealth builds work fine, once you get to critical strike that is. And really the mid to late game bows are the ones that you should be looking for, I noticed in this video you were using the rope bow to fight a death knight. The rope bow is purely utility and does NO damage.
When you get to the higher tier points of the stealth abilities you can really walk around levels with impunity. It's perfectly fine. Just pick off important enemies before you inevitably get spotted, then dagger flurry and kick your way through the game for the rest of the time.
The rope bow does do damage.
@@jamstonjulian6947 the rope bow really does do not do any meaningful damage
yeah stealth is epic in this game, the dagger finisher / adrenaline attack is a dagger throw if remember correctly
I've played through this so many times... it's downright shocking there's no add-ons or custom maps for this, especially since it's using Source.
iirc there's a mod that adds in some cut content and a new game plus.
Arkane needs some more appreciation. They literally have not made a bad game
I would disagre with you DMM&M suffer for heavy cause of Red Herring.
Core mechanic if the game is to play with environment, magic branch of skill tree suport that, but combat branch is not realated with it whatsoever.
You may thinks that is good idea to spent point on it, but in reality you waste those precios point.
There is easy to fix solution here, instead in example:
power(vanila) give you passive bonus to attack, wich don't change nothing
power(in my) if higher level that bigger object you can grab and throw with more streng.
dishonored death of the outsider is a recycled mess of an SJW "expansion"
where even the main Villain is also a "victim"
TheSharpmarksman As much as I hate SJW stuff, I cant agree with you. there was nothing of that nature in DotO. It simply gave Outsider personality and background. I know how you feel, but Arkane is not into this shit
Dishonored 2. Their latest was a pretty shit game. Unless you like SJW bullshit and androgynous, gender bender protagonists.
They haven't made a particularly good one yet, either.
I played it first when it came out, years later I played Dishonored and it felt oddly familiar. Turns out it was made from the same studio.
Welp, time for a re-install.
Piss of Anathema.
10:45 I HEARD THE AGE OF MYTHOLOGY MUSIC.
IT WAS MOST NOSTALGIC.
Prostogma!
I bought Dark Messiah about a week ago and just beat it tonight (I've been taking my time), and my only wish is that it was longer. Or that they made a proper sequel since there's so much potential for expanding on the story, especially if you picked the mid-ground option at the end.
Ah Dark Messiah, such a great game.
And kinda showed what Arkane are best at: Fluid, expansive gameplay, interesting level design which compliments your fighting system and cool secret areas.
Also what they - to this day - can't do: Interesting, deep characters with actual development, gripping story archs or world building. Hell, Dark Messiah was so much better than Dishonored in the character departement. Although that doesn't really say much.
Great video as usual and awesome choice of music, I heard some Stronghold and War of the Ring music.
Hanfgurkenhasser I disagree, but only about worldbuilding. I think Dishonored universe is fantastic, probably one of my personal favorites. But the story and characters are meh, you're right.
Arx Fatalis had some greath world building, at least for me.
Something like "dont ever kill anyone or you will get a bad ending" made me hate that game, it doesnt force you to use stealth, but i uninstalled dishonored after a few non-lethal levels. Havent even tried sword fight or guns, but i got so sick from that boring teleport-crawling-choking sealth, that i dont ever want to instal it again. Dark messiah on the other hand does not force you to do do anything specific throu the all game, thus i had sooo mutch more fun in dark messiah
Andres Kozuhhovski
Well I suggest you not focusing on getting a "good" ending and enjoying yourself. Honestly, the story even becomes a little interesting this way, and the main character gets a semblance of an actual arc.
You are criticizing the game for giving you more choice and more content.
+Andres Kozuhhovski It gives you a different ending. Whether you think it's bad is up to you. If you want another ending you'll have to go with the non-lethal path. Everything makes sense as well.
*sigh* well... I guess it's the perfect time to kick some orcs...
*proceeds to reinstall the game*
Two years later, here I am reinstalling the game AGAIN
Oh, I absolutely loved how the character moved! THe camera moved along with the body, "headbobing", you can see the whole body not being tied firmly to where you look. It just adds a lot to the immersion.
If we can get Vampire: Bloodlines 2 after all these years, maybe we can get DM 2. That would be nice.
After we got new Half-Life game, I'd say anything is possible
Dishonored is pretty simmiliar and the story is much better so id rather have dishonored 3
Well, this comment didn't age well.
Shame that VTMB 2 is gonna be shit.
@@nebeskisrb7765 why? what happened?
I’ve beaten this game a bunch of times and still I love it. It’s so charming. Just don’t play it on the highest difficulty level, where enemies just have a zillion health and standard combat doesn’t work at all anymore. On the moderate to hard difficulties you can use a combination of both and it’s fun and rewarding.
I actually just beat it on hardcore and had a great time lol. Spammed the Lightning shield and soul reaver, they made a great combo...
@@monsterlandproductions3407Nah, it's shite. I tried to build a pure fighter and got fucked. Past a certain point I had to cheese every single enemy, including the mages, because the weapons just didn't hurt them, but they constantly killed me in two hits. Sponges have no place in this kind of game.
The Kevin McCallister comment basically summed up how I've been trying to summarise the combat in this game. Thank you.
This game just has the most enjoyable bullshit story. I just can't take it seriously when you spend over 70 procent of the game kicking orcs off steep ledges. And some of the dialogue between the player character and the demon is just... fun? Bad? So horrifically bad that it makes me wanna tear my ears off sometimes? Yes, yes, and yes!
"I'll just lower the pretty little gang plank, then."
It’s a perfectly comfy cornball 2006 PC game. 👌
cmon that part was fucking amazing. sareth was fucking aware of how cringy it is what xana constantly keeps saying. i think that part made it golden and feel relatable. in other games or movies the main character either ignores such characters or finds it normal or doesnt notice that they are weird. the fact that hes making fun of her is just very well made imo. also i laughed my ass of when he said that xD
Aw yes. The game of my childhood. And it's truly an amazing game. Every time I replay that game I find something new, that I haven't explored before.
But every time I reinstall it (I'm russian) everything is in russian EXCEPT ZANNA. She's having german voice lines. I wonder if it is intended ;)
Vaas Yanovich dude im dutch and i have the xbox disc and everything is in german... It was a pain in the ass to finish it
different pop culture/ nazi memes somewhat known but are not part of folklore in Russia, it's porn reference. vintage German porn was first introduction to such kind of movies in SU. So "I saw this in one german movie" kind of joke is what everybody will understand on Russia, except maybe modern kids
Believe it or not this game had a big problem where the low-violence german version got mixed up by international stores and sold in russia amd such
I'm a history buff but I didn't know that the Russians would make jokes about that stuff.
@@acewolfgang276 about porn movies? That's a bit odd to think
The game itself seems to push you to being something of a multi-class kind of character. You shouldn't be limited to just blades and you shouldn't be limited using magic. You're given the option to be like a Fighter-Mage kind of character. Or even a Fighter-Thief, whatever you wish. You aren't being forced down one path or another, but rather you are meant to cover your bases by taking multiple abilities and skills from each path.
Side Note: Xana is best girl for both Good and Bad endings.
From Funhaus to Mandalore, the Dark Messiah Arc has finally come full swing
“I have a riddle for you!”
Tfw the succubus is the better girl but THAT HOLY STAFF THO
loved my staff mage playthrough on my first run of this game
Ah you too! Bashing people with the staff through walls was the best.
Staffs before hoes right
The succubus is a trash waifu. Absolute low tier. Lena isn’t much better. She’s a low mid tier at best. The game has very lackluster waifus.
@@imfunnyiswear1490 I think you switched those around. Leana is trash tier, Xana's low mid. Higher if you're familiar with her lore from HoMM5.
For the uninitiated, Xana was a human sorceress who found her betrothed to be cheating on her, responded by summoning imps into his robes while he was wearing them, and got burned at the stake for demonology. Woke up as a succubus, and quickly developed a reputation as being ever so... Off, for a succubus. By which I mean she's a succubus who doesn't lie (she may not tell the whole truth, but she never knowingly tells an untruth), and the other demons think she's weird for being a romantic and downright prudish by succubi standards.
@@passingrando6457 The girl has a whole lore background! I've been replaying this game for a decade but literally never thought of googling for stuff in the homm universe outside the game. Thank you
I can't even believe how well this game aged
Seems like there were a lot of underrated old Source games like this, and Vampire Masquerade Bloodlines. This one clearly wanted to play with the physics stuff though since that supposed to be neat back then when source was new.
6:30
You stood on clearly higher ground where the cleave hit your legs
“Nobel warriors detest ranged weapons”
...
“This is not a ranged weapon sir it is a barrel of oil”
Ah, I see you're a person of culture as well.
Wait, aren't you Mandy, the flat earth guy?
ehmaysi what?
don't do this to me mac
I literally just read the artical about this. And I about had a shit fit.
I mean this is probably the best video for someone to bring up you getting *kicked* from something.
Because, you know. The...the - yeah okay I'll leave.
Fill me in?
The Gachi lines always make me laugh way harder than they should.
I missed that Home Alone scream
Mandalore sure loves that clip!
The Wilhelm scream?
The funny thing is that even though I saved Leanna in each playthrough I kept choosing Xana. I think even though she isn't very nice when talking about others, she saves your life and is loyal to you (dispute the whole "demons are pure evil"). So it felt wrong to take a holy water bath to get rid of her. Also I didn't like how quick Leanna is at attacking you just because you didn't listen to her demands. I SAVED you from being eaten by a GAINT SPIDER! Let me have a sucubus waifu!😖
6:33 - You know what i suspect what happened there?
It could very well be that it was not the Enemy who landed that hit despite you having the shield up, since a second later, you can see a faint red color which lets me assume your "Partner" that tagged along with you, just shot off a Fireball, which was meant for your Enemy but instead also did hit you, which in the end resulted in that hit, which you thought occured because the Enemy cut through your defense.
ORCS STRONG. ORCS ALWAYS STRONG. Never gets old.
Playing this game, the best part is that the scream when someone falls off a cliff just *barely* peaks their microphone
This game reminds me of those early days of next gen gaming, finally we got to the 360/ps3 era. 3D graphics full swing and things are starting to actually look and feel like we always wanted growing up. reminds me of the Darkness, Prey, The Condemned... Fun Games with really smart/funny AI!!
That clip you showed up, when the orc "glitched" through your shield. It wasn't a glitch, there was a female mage behind you that threw a fireball at you.
@ludwig amadeus Basically, he got hit in the legs beneath the shield :)
Yep. Arrows to the knee or ankle can bypass shield blocks too.
Five entire years later, Skyrim came out with 10K times a bigger budget. And the combat system doesn't even come close to that of Dark Messiah! If the degradation of the Gaming Industry ever came into question, this is proof, right here and there!
I'd implant something else in Xana ...
( ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)
Giggity
YES
Your sword!! Yeah, I like your thinking :D
World's most underrated game.
Agree!
Guess i'm the only one who *loves headbobbing* in video games.
I like it, too. Feels more present. I'm playing a character, not a camera
SSR GamingVids I would love it, if it didn't make me motion sick. Literally only reason as to why people don't like it.
I don't get motion sickness, but I still hate headbobbing.
In my opinion, it's seemingly always overdone and entirely unrealistic, like when characters' heads bounce up and down while they're walking (which is not what happens when you walk) or how in this game, the character's head turns sideways when they strafe; who does that?
In most games I'm ok with it, but in this game I had to turn it off because it was too strong...
SSR GamingVids i like it too, especially in Thief 1 and 2
0:03 WAAAGH!!!
man I just remember Sparta kicking armies of orcs off cliffs.
Bro att 6.33 it was Leanna who attacked you! HAHAHA probably
I bought it in retail on the first week it was released. I finished it many times through the years and it is still on of the most enjoyable experiences i ever had with a game. Awesome graphics and atmosphere, Source physics and great melee combat combine together to give you an awesome game.