10-25-2021 Tulsa Police Department Arrest of LaDonna Paris
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- We understand that there is concern about how the officers conducted themselves in this situation, particularly when speaking amongst one another beyond the suspect's hearing.
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On March 29, 2022, the Tulsa Police Communications office received several inquiries from the local media in reference to the arrest of LaDonna Paris that took place on October 25 of 2021.
Most of the inquiries stemmed from a social media post directing people to a UA-cam channel that had an edited video of an Officer on the call. One inquiry originated from a City Councilor asking a local media group to give the matter attention.
Incident Synopsis:
On 10/25/2021 we were called by employees of the Re-store located at 1234 S. Norwood in reference to a woman who had locked herself in the bathroom. The employees told officers that she had been in there for 4 hours and she left a dog locked in a U-Haul that she arrived in.
They told the officers that she was not allowed to be in the bathroom, and they wanted us to remove her and tell her that she wasn’t allowed to come back on the property.
Officers requested our Community Response Team respond to the location to assist with Paris, unfortunately they were busy on another call and unable to respond to the location.
Officers spent 15 minutes talking to Paris through the door telling her that she needed to come out of the bathroom. While the door was locked, it was not beyond the capabilities of the Officers to force their way into the room. The officer continued to attempt verbal coercion and rattling the door to get Paris to comply with the lawful order to come out.
After 15 minutes Paris said she wanted to the Manager to tell her that she had to leave, the officers got the manager on speakerphone and told Paris that she had to leave, but Paris did not believe that it was the actual manager on the phone and dismissed it.
After 17 minutes, the officers recognized that Paris had been spraying an aerosol can and had a lighter. Officer secured a fire extinguisher started to formulate a plan to bring another officer to the location to help secure Paris, not knowing what Paris had on the other side of the door.
After 21 minutes officers formulated a plan to make entry into the room and immediately control Paris’ hands. One Officer told Paris to open the door and come out now, when Paris did not open the door, she activated her taser to make an arc sound hoping that that auditory stimulus would prompt Paris to open the door.
At 33 minutes a third officer arrived on scene and Paris still refused to exit the bathroom, the officers formulated a plan to enter the room and secure Paris. While the use of OC spray was discussed the officers chose to not use it and try to control Paris’ hands instead.
At 34 minutes officers made entry in the bathroom and quickly took Paris into custody. Paris did sustain a minor injury to her face when officers were taking her into custody on the floor of the bathroom.
EMSA was called to the scene and they tended to Paris’ injury.
Officers spoke to Paris for several minutes outside of the location without incident. When they attempted to get Paris to sit in the back of the police car, Paris actively resisted and kicked one of the officers.
Paris was transported to Tulsa County and did not offer any additional resistance through the course of the booking process.
The video that was sent to my attention is edited down from 90 minutes to just under 6 minutes.
To be clear, the banter between the officers outside of the presence of the suspect can be received as unprofessional and has been addressed with the Officers.
The overall actions of the Officers and the way in which the call was handled is within the policies of the Tulsa Police Department.
In summary, we were called to a location by staff to remove an individual who was trespassing. The suspect used an aerosol can and lighter in an unsuccessful attempt to set a fire. Officers attempted to call our Community Response team to the location, but they were unable to respond. After 34 minutes of unsuccessful verbal coaxing, Paris still refused to open the door and surrender. Officers forced entry into the small bathroom and quickly secured Paris with minimal force. When loading Paris into a vehicle, she kicked an Officer. During and after transport Paris was compliant with Officers.
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It really makes me feel a lot safer knowing we got you clowns going around berating and harassing an elderly woman during a mental episode. Serve and protect am i right. Garbage humans
im so very thankful this is how we treat ppl who are obviously not in the right state of mind
You've got a lot of nerve 🤨🤮
Disgusting. And you wonder why people hate you. How dare you ask for our support when you treat people like this.
Nah, I feel sorry for you that you have to work for this useless police department. POS
The lady officer saying "we weren't trained for this" actually hit the nail on the head. Call mental health professionals for calls such as these. The cops are not trained properly and, clearly, some are void of compassion and understanding.
Her parents didn't train her to be a decent human being.
its always great to yell for some sort of social worker or mental health professional - until someone who is having an episode like this becomes violent. Does it suck that situations come to this? Yes. But is it better to be aggressive enough to limit injury vs allow a non leo to approach a situation and be met with violence? To almost any extreme, also yes. The real issues are that people can't understand, or want to, that every situation like this can go from 'grandma is having a bad day' to 'Woman having mental breakdown kills/injures person trying to help'. It is never clear - until after the fact - to what level a person can or will take a situation. LEO's using a correct level of force to stop the situation before it gets worse, is the best, fastest, and ultimately safest solution.
They did call. they were busy with other situations. and I'd be void of compassion and understanding when when you don't know if the person you are talking to is going to pull something that could end your life.
@@brickbear6296 keep telling yourself that.
@@Cyber_Freedom No need to, there's plenty of officers that get shot, stabbed, and killed every year. When you can't even see the person, you have no idea what you're dealing with.
These are the incidents that earn the hate. Congrats. If the officers aren't publicly disciplined, it will make it very clear to the citizens you serve that this is the acceptable culture within your department when dealing with 70 year old women experiencing a mental health crisis. "I lOVe mY jOb! tHis iS gONnA bE FUN!"
Good to see you, can't wait for this one and the backlash they receive
Can we find a lawyer to sue this people, Lack?
!! Pragmatical fact !! When you tournament and abuse a 70 year old mentally ill person YOU going hell !
Say it again, Lack.
This Department is full of sadistic people who are not held accountable for their actions.
shut up and join! make a difference! or just sit there in your moms basement complaining and crying.
All day ,everyday here
Your officers “coaxing” wasn’t professional at all, doesn’t matter that it’s “with policy” that just clearly shows how out dated policy is. Theses officers were acting unprofessionally while “attempting” (and even putting attempting in quotations is being extremely nice) to assist someone who is clearly in need of mental while also being filmed it’s disgusting. The fact that you department is so accepting of this shows the failure in leadership within that department and retraining is needed from the top down
So what are your qualifications in the subject of mental health? What makes you the expert? Particularly in a situation where the individual is barricaded in a room trying to light things on fire.
@@okstate999 who said anything about being an expert, you don’t need to to be an expert to have common sense and decency but I’m sure you expect very little from the people who swore an oath to protect and serve you
@@MultiZombiekiller201 So what was the "common sense" thing to do? If a much better alternative is glaringly obvious then surely you can explain what that is.
@@okstate999 awe poorly educated white privilege clown mad. you should be, at the unprofessional inhumane civil servants who are there to serve and protect the community. defend those thugs
I think the first officer was doing his best. It was the female cop who quickly escalated things and the other ones just stood by and let her. SMH Is she white? The other cop is like wth I don't know, you could hear in his voice he didn't get the point of that question.
I don't think that was all outside of hearing distance lol. They were literally just outside the door boasting about how fun this will be and rattling the door like psychopaths. The fact that you reviewed this and found no issues shows their needs to be a leadership change up. You guys knew she was having a mental episode after the fact yet instead of getting her help you stacked a bunch of charges and took her to jail. She needed help, not jail. Also you say this was all handled properly yet the officer didn't disclose any of the mental issues that ems told her in her report? Your response is dramatically downplaying the incident. Officers need to be fired and the one who decided this could all be brushed under the rug by just "speaking with" the officers instead of actually disciplining them needs to also step down from their leadership position.
They were rattling that door like she was an animal in a cage at the zoo for their enjoyment. Psychotic behavior. I bet they torture small animals for fun. Thats the type….and yes, im college educated in psychology…
They spent a good 10 minutes or so trying to work with her. It wasn't working, so they tried a different approach. They can't just stand there all day, the world doesn't revolve around her. Tulsa has a population of 400k and there's other calls they need to get to. Also from my experience dealing with individuals like this every day, there's a LOT of people where every day is a crisis according to them. This seems like it may be one of those deals. It's just a revolving door, they'll continue to get arrested or picked up by EMS, sent to a facility, discharged, and repeat. How much time is a police officer supposed to spend on these people? It's not their job, they have just enough training to hopefully identify and get far enough to hand them over to someone specialized in that field. She was a repeat, banned trespasser, locked herself in a room, was trying to shoot flames at police officers. They did what they could, ended up having to remove her from the room, and took her into custody quickly and with as minimal injury as they could. I don't see what the problem is.
@@okstate999 the officer said "we're not trained for that" so stop embarrassing yourself you clown
Tulsa Police said that the banter between officers “can be received as unprofessional.”
Goddam you all are disgusting. Harassing, escalating, and belittling a mentally ill 70-year-old woman while laughing about how much you love terrorizing is definitely "received as unprofessional.” You all earn the distrust you have caused in this country, and you seem to be doubling down. How is this what you have chosen to do with you lives? Does anyone there have empathy or morals?
I guess bullying older people with mental health conditions is legal. Thank god for body cams.
We see these blue people for who they are. I know good cops but to me- it is probably 25% of the police. All of the bad apples riding the small percentage of cops coattails.
Well said. I can't believe the audacity.
So since someone is "mentally ill" that means we should just let them do whatever they want? Obviously she had been a well known, repeat problem at this business. They spent over half an hour trying to get her to come out of that bathroom as she was trying to set the place on fire and threatening them. Now that I've seen the full video I don't see any issues here.
@@okstate999 the cops were pointing that taser under to the door and she was spraying Lysol. Who? Was trying to start a fire?
Only speculation but what if she was in their smoking that spec.... And lost track of time?and then let herself get scared.
the way they were laughing and being careless with those electrical devices around flammables tells me this was not about safety or doing what's lawful and right. They knew she was elderly and yet tackled her like it was the NFL. In jail a month and no charges. Pretty sure they were holding her to keep the medicals from seeing her shape.
They have the audacity to call themselves Hero's, an elderly lady with obvious mental health issues but the female cop couldn't wait to go hands on and was threating the lady telling her she was looking forward to going hands on, what a Hero, she's a pathetic disgrace.
The clinical diagnosis is "psychopathic narcissist"
No heroes on this force.. unless heroes get their rocks off abusing the elderly.. disgusting
@@maxbrazil3712 really adds to the stereotype that mean girls and bullies become nurses and police
@@tobitobi2493 I have a cousin who is the most despicable creep, despised by the entire family because he's a hyper violent and abusive lunatic, and he wears a badge.
That’s the worst part. Her behavior and lack of professionalism is pitiful. She can learn some compassion. Talking to her like she was hiding in that bathroom deliberately when she clearly is psychotic and then saying she tried to start a fire and threatening with pepper spray an a taser. That woman was horrible to the last second.
""she tried to light us on fire..." How did she do that now?
Imagine if an officer came with a super kind and calm voice, said they’re there to help her feel better and be safe, asked her what she is feeling and why, offered her strategies or information to calm her. And I haven’t even had a SECOND of interpersonal and deescalation training I’m just a normal, empathetic, thoughtful human being???. These “officers” should have ssooooo much education and experience in that.
It's shocking how little training police get. Don't even get me started on the education level required. Seems like they're literally only trained in smash and grab tactics similar to what the smash and grab thieves use. Get in, secure, get out. Whether the "perp' - everyone's a perp to them - is 7 or 70. Now being too empathetic can get you killed, even in a situation like this but putting six year olds in handcuffs and flipping the elderly on cement is insane. They could have bashed in that door to a woman who had a knife, I get it. But she said she wanted to speak to her niece. Okay so why couldn't they take a minute to actually call her niece to find out what was going on? Maybe her niece lived nearby and could have gotten her out in a matter of seconds. Or use language like you suggested to see what they got. They were in no imminent danger and EMS in the very least should have been called. Also if Mental Health Services were "busy", well then they should have waited for them. There was no rush. And that female cop, flat out needs to be fired. She's a loose cannon with her wording, jokes, threats and why did it matter if she was white? How was that a relevant question to the situation at all? Disturbing. I would NEVER want her to come to my home to help. Not ever.
Lol 😹
they dont give a shh about desacalition and respect
@@SohlaceBeauty1that’s what I was going to say. They could care less and you can’t gain empathy and compassion from police training. No matter how much of it you get it won’t matter.
Pathetic excuse for human beings. Everyone of those officers need to be fired and held accountable
Imagine being those police officers and they're dealing with this woman on a repeated basis. There's Calls multiple higher priority calls holding. Such as an assault and battery in progress sex abuse crime armed robbery, threat in progress. Should these officers spend another hour there with her trying to coax her out? or can they deal with the problem and respond to the more serious crimes? Because at the end of the day people will complain that the cops did not show up to their armed robbery in progress call fast enough because they were dealing with this woman and three officers which is a large portion of their squad we can't have her cake and eat it too. If you want officers to spend hours with this woman don't complain when your car gets stolen and officer is not there for 4-8hours because they were dealing with a mental patient. And yes transporting a mental health patient doing a report etc finding them to bed takes 4 to 8 hours.
@@Goodooleboy shut up
He knocks her down after kicking in the door and asks her why she's bleeding and then says that she was already on the floor. Thankfully there's video.
UPDATE: Tulsa PD first refused to launch an investigation but then relented; however, they still refused to make the results public violating Oklahoma state law. In any case, none of the officers were disciplined and 2 have received pay raises since. The old lady is suing the police department and an ONG is suing to obtain the results of the investigation.
The female officer doesn't seem like she has the sensibility for the job if she can't even take a situation seriously. Really bad look for Tulsa PD 😔
If you take every call that seriously, your blood pressure is gonna be so high that you'd die. Police officers are humans and they are allowed to laugh just like everybody else. If you can't see the humor in the job, you're in the wrong profession. Sure, this one could be cleaned up a bit, but when you're wearing a body cam it's inevitable. I'd like to see all of you idiots in this comment section wear body cams at your jobs...if you even have one.
This is where they should have called a mental health doctor instead of laughing at her condition and they wonder why people can't stand them the lady cop you can tell by her demeanor she she needs a different job.
They did call for mental health crisis experts and they said they could not respond.
They did and they said they could not respond..
@@Goodooleboy So the response was to aggravate the situation and mock her.
I'm a social worker who's worked with persons w/ a variety of mental illnesses. Been doing this for 15 years now. There's nothing that's ever fun about having to try to de-escalate a person who's having a mental health crisis and who may very well pose a danger to themself or others while they are experiencing said crisis. Nothing fun about that whatsoever. Never. Not even once. There's also nothing fun about the person being scared that they might be brutalized by police officers who are there and who should be trying to assist and de-escalate this type of situation instead of needlessly doing things to escalate it into violence. At the very least, worst case scenario these officers need to be fired immediately for their lack of compassion.
So how would you get her to come out? They were super nice at the beginning, for about 10 minutes, and it wasn't going anywhere. How much time should they spend at a call like this? And no, this is not a crisis. I guarantee that woman's entire life is a crisis in her mind and she refuses to get treatment. People who are unwilling to help themselves are impossible to help.
Where is your compassion for the officers? Do you understand most people deal with 2-3 critical incidents in a ifetime. Cops face 800-1000 over a 20- 25 year career, you don't think that effects them? I highly doubt your credentials "social worker" not having compassion or understanding their behavior as a coping mechanism to these critical incidents.
@@Goodooleboy Wow. I wish I could laugh at your ignorance, uneducatedness, horrible opinion, but unfortunately it’s a very harmful and disgusting opinion. You are acting like police don’t exist FOR the people and to help and keep peace and safety overall. And if they are the people who are going to be trusted to do so, they need to be extremely patient, well educated, disciplined, and not have a “coping skill” that gets RADICALLY, RADICALLY in the way of helping ANYONE? This situation is an elderly woman who is horrified, confused, in crisis. In WHAT FUCKING WORLD does it make any sense to stand out the door and Snicker, to horrify her with violent threats and a taser sound, to frighteningly rattle the door??? Who are you?? Like are you trying to get you dick sucked by some cops or something. You’re not cool for riding for a group of people who utterly fail at and take advantage of their job and demolish peoples lives daily with no consequence for themselves - just financial gain.
@@okstate999 so you forgot the part where they were trying to intimidate and scare her with the Taser and laughing at her while she was in fear is that part of the job as well. Reading your comment doesn’t seem like you wanted a woman to get hurt but you got understand that people with mental illnesses can’t help themselves they need help from others and if you just gave up on them it just shows what type of person you are what if that was your family.
@@Goodooleboy Incompetence is not an excuse. Those police officers were briefed on the situation. They should be fired at the very least.
I see zero empathy, zero compassion. Officers making fun of her, being rude to her, humiliation. This is disgusting on all levels and could have been deescalated. Train your officers!!!!!
That girl asking for water!!! Madness
How do you deescalate crazy?
@@talkypoo of they don't know how they should have waited for the people who did. I can think of many ways
Tell us the many ways. I'm curious.
No, rattling the door and laughing at her were not within policy. It was escalating and antagoning conduct toward a mentally unstable person, done for personal enjoyment. (This is gonna be fun, she said). She should have been fired for conduct unbecoming an officer and violation of de-escaltion policies. You can cover for them in writing, but not in reality. Now the public knows the apples are rotten all the way to the core. Btw, retired law enforcement here who taught arrest, search and seizure classes for 23 years…..you can ignore me, but you know im correct.
Well time to come out of retirement Jack because people aren't lining up for these jobs. I agree with you there's some additional training and discipline to be done here but that's it. I'm willing to bet during your career you weren't wearing the body cam the whole time. Think back to when the stuff hit the fan on that one call. Did you handle it perfectly? Are you God's gift to law enforcement? These are probably good officers that made a mistake. That can be fixed. Pump the brakes and get off your high horse.
@@siberwolf33 making mistakes is one thing. Everyone makes them. The problem is the lack of accountability for those mistakes.
@@jonathanjohnson431 I'm sure they got a fat dose of accountability from their department. I don't think termination is warranted in this scenario. I'd back them up if I was the PD, mandate additional training and possibly a couple suspension days. That's probably not enough to gratify the bloodlust of the media and woke internet trolls and that's ok.
@@siberwolf33 how do you expect the public to retain respect when all they see are unpunished actions like this?
@@jonathanjohnson431Do you have to know when every doctor gets punished? What's the obsession with police?
Let me see if I understand this video. The two cops claimed the woman was spraying aerosol and trying to ignite it with a cig lighter. (By the way at the same time the cop is playing with her taser by dry firing it on the other side of the door.)
But, they didn’t call the fire department to stop the fire should she succeed.
Later they bust the door down, dragged her out and interrogated her for over an hour on the sidewalk. An hour later they call the fire Marshall and he respond and searched for the lighter in the bathroom that was left unsecured for over an hour and he could not find the lighter.
The accusing female cop then went back to the unsecured restroom and FOUND a lighter.
Are you kidding me? Since that female cop acted unprofessional throughout this video, why should I believe she found a lighter and didn’t pull it out of her pot smoking pocket???
You just raised a really good point I hadn't thought of. I rewatched. She seems REALLY excited that she's going to get to use her taser. Holy cow. And you have excellent points about the fire department being called. Also if mental health services was "busy", why didn't they wait for them, they clearly had two hours to waste. Or in the very least, call her niece or EMS. How hard would that have been?
Your explanation for how they handled it is bullshit you’re not gonna sit here and tell us that she couldn’t hear what they were saying when the door or you could hear her mumbles the officer intentionally shook on the door knob with her feet as to cause more terror to the lady she started banging on the door repeatedly also bringing in more fear into the situation for the lady then to have another officer kick the door in and slam the lady to the ground is totally uncalled for no matter what the situation was especially when they already knew they Were dealing with an elderly woman with dementia
IF they seriously thought the lady was trying to burn the building down they would have called the fire department right away. Over an hour later they decided to call the fire department to try to determine if she did in fact try to burn it down.
Someone told the cops to cover there a-s by calling them in to try to validate their incompetence
I was thinking about that bit, the flames would have done a totally different sound, I only hear the spray. The male officer goes to the car, passes an extinguisher, doesn't grab it. Logic.
There’s no reason to call the fire dept right away if they stop her before she can do anything
Disgusting. Especially that lady officer. She was immature and unnecessarily cruel. Her remarks had no place. If she isn't punished, I will throw Everything at you TPD.
I understand your point completely. I'm just not sure the term "lady" fits though.
@@jk11463 she the only female that's the only thing to defrinciate her from the rest
So what are you going to throw at them? I'm curious.
The messed up part of it all is that she is the face of the police on Facebook an Painted is some kind of community hero
Stfu she didn't even do anything wrong the lady was breaking the law period
What a great way of embarrassing your entire department. That lady loves her job so much she ought to be fired for this type of behavior. Why does it matter what race she is? Elderly confusion and dementia comes with any color. That females officers act is more pungently disgusting than any over sprayed air freshener. Absolutely horrible treating an elderly woman like this.
Not just fired. The DOJ needs to file criminal charges for civil rights violations.
and how many videos have been shown when police come on private property and civilians tell them to get off their property how they don't leave they just linger around and act like they can do what they want but when a civilian does it and they come you supposed to respond immediately you supposed to comply within a second or else
Why is there a justice hashtag? Did she die?
EVIL 😈 LEAVING THAT DOG WATER IN FRONT OF HER AND DENYING THIS ELDERLY WOMAN BASIC NEEDS!!!!!!
As a social worker who has been in many crisis situations, this is disgusting. Escalating the situation and scaring someone who is already and clearly does not have the capacity to understand what is going on is abuse. I hope she sues and I hope this case is used as an example of why more funding needs to be reallocated into mental health. Shame on you for calling this abuse, “professional banter”.
Yeah she handled it completely wrong. I'm not sure what her issue was with Ms Paris and why she chose to escalate the way she did. Could have been a real simple removal
Social workers are disgusting people in my extensive experience.
@@zombiefukr626 Can you explain how it would have been a real simple removal? I mean, they could have just immediately kicked the door in, but they spent 30 minutes trying to avoid using force. Either way you'd be complaining.
she did nothing wrong. All these people complaining need to put their money where their mouth is and join the force and show everybody "how it's done". Police get mud thrown at them when they are too mean, too nice, too serious, not serious enough. They aren't robots and to sit back and judge how they should cope with the different aspects of their job is completely ignorant. You can complain about how "nobody wants to be treated that way" but nobody wants their bathroom taken over for five hours by someone whos not suppose to be there. nobody wants to deal with someone completely belligerent because they decided not to take their medication. Police don't get to make that choice. It becomes their problem and they have to deal with it.
If they can't cope they don't belong . Plus she seems drunk .
@@sxybasturd If you're in that line of work and you can't laugh, you're not gonna make it. I guess you think they should be stoic robots on every single call and never show any emotion. And even then I guarantee you'd still be complaining.
@@okstate999 Laugh at a person, having a mental crisis, you would've been perfect, in the SS, could've been Himmler's top dog, laugh and kill, whoever you wanted, sick F**King Nazi Pig.
Imagine if that was your grandma . You’d have a different change of heart , not only does this show just how much cops lack morality but how I fear for mentally ill and disabled individuals. Shame on you and your department.
Apparently the officers who were responsible for the incident, along with Chief of Police would be ok with their grandparents being assaulted like this..
@@CharsWigg My grandparents never would have behaved like that. I have one left, who happens to have a mental condition, and you're not gonna find him in a situation like that. This clearly was not an isolated mental health crisis as everyone is trying to portray it. This looks like someone who is refusing to get treatment, and as stated in the video she is a repeat problem at that property. All of you people on this comment section have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and clearly do not deal with people like this, ever, let alone on a daily basis like I do.
After all that and they still brought her to jail???? Even when the paramedic confirmed he saw her earlier that day and tried to get her to go to the hospital and even got his supervisor there but she took off. She really shoulda been forced into a 72 hour hold cause after standing outside the store with her all that time, it’s obvious she is in a manic state. It’s heartbreaking cause you can see the paramedic really cares about her and tried to calm her down and told her take deep breaths. I wish I had been there. I’ve been in this same mindset and full blown manic with delusional wand disorganized thinking. She’s non violent too. She’s actually seemingly like the sweetest older lady. I’ve been treated like shit by cops too so it makes sense why she didn’t come out. Police aren’t equipped to deal with this stuff and evidently need more training but all you need is a little compassion and it goes a long way and all this coulda been avoided. By attacking a elderly manic woman to the ground who was never even violent but paranoid and scared is disgraceful
Edit: the dog was thirsty yes and in a car with the windows up but honestly that pup was perfectly fine and you can tell was loved and healthy. She’s not well and that dog wasn’t being neglected or abused. She couldn’t help what she was going through and y’all made it worse. She was hiding from you guys cause of this thing called “police brutality” that female cop makes me sick. She’s an embarrassment to the police department.
"The overall actions of the Officers and the way in which the call was handled is within the policies of the Tulsa Police Department."
It's your policies to have fun hitting and gazed a 70-year-old woman that does not represent any threat? Either you are all incompetent and you have to be fired or you are protecting yourself from criminals and you have to go to jail.
Doesn't represent a threat...hmm, looks like you need to watch it again.
@@okstate999
are they police officers or cheerleaders? If this old lady represents a danger for them then this job is not for them. What, then, does an armed criminal represent?
@@trorisk Trying to set them on fire and trying to hit and kick them while taking her into custody is a danger.
To those saying they gave the dog water but not the lady begging for water you have to understand that in this country, a dog has more rights than “some” human beings. Interpret what “some” means idgaf
That’s right rashawn a gottdam dog ain’t supposed to be above a human!!!
Then you put her in jail for a month and end up dropping all charges. Huh?
Insanity plea. You're not gonna get a conviction out of that unless the situation was a lot more severe, even then maybe not.
Maybe someday, when you are old, you will be treated like that!
Can’t believe they gave the dog water but not the 70 year old woman with obvious mental problems. Who the hell trained these cops?
To be fair the dog had been In a hot truck for 5 hours in the sun with the windows up it needed some water
The woman had been in a bathroom for 4 hours. In case you are unaware, bathrooms contain sinks. Water comes out of the faucet located on the sink.
0:51:27 the officer told the EMT to “SHUT YOUR MOUTH” which indicates the poor woman couldn’t have been in the store for hours, because the EMT SAID WE WERE JUST WITH HER. That heavy set Tulsa Police Department officer also touched her inside of her pants and wiped his thumb on his pants and looked at his hands in beginning of video. He also constantly denied injuring her and taking off her jewelry. Esau you bad brother you
Sickening
Did u make that up?
No the devil made you up though, made you to be destroyed with him
Get ready for the public records request dummies
This is a great example of why police departments should have social workers.
The foster care system implies they would be just as bad
One of the saddest things is that no elected official has the courage to create an independent agency that investigates police actions
With have of citizens who live with mental illness why aren’t cops being trained on how to deal with them. Or train them how to have compassion. I truly believe the most inhumane, abusive cops are empty inside. Suffer with major insecurities and take it out on citizens.
That would require more than a shoe-sized IQ, which disqualifies 99.9% of the drooling retards in law enforcement.
Cool....so why don't you apply to TPD or any other agency, and show them all the proper way to do it since you're the expert.
This is very very sad. if this does not break your heart I don't know what else will. The Police's conduct was not right. what happened to serving and protecting, where is humanity and compassion. Treat people with respect. All the officer needs remedial training or get fired. the 70-year-old really needs help. this is disguisting
They kept her in jail for a month with 2 weeks in solitary confinement knowing she needed medical attention.
@@B_Bodziak yes and the stupid witch cop blatantly said "it's an 85" which apparently means its a mental health risk individual. This is clearly bizarre behavior and some care should be involved. It's just a woman and they can hear that its a woman and an older person and barely intelligible and they go bashing in there like it's necessary but meanwhile there's videos of grown men who are violently armed and they let them control the situation. Just all around nasty wicked cowards who need the justice of Hell.
Ladonna- describing what's going on- hurt arm, torn rotator cuff.
Root- Can you open the door? What's going on.
(To bystanders who apparently makes tactic decisions.) Do you want us to bust the door down?
CRT is busy of course.
Carioca- she doesn't even know who the manager is
Employee- walks up up with named manager on phone
"She's trying to burn the place down." - Then where is the fire department? Seriously- you filled charges of arson so WHEN DID YOU CONTACT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT?
"We need 6 CRTS"- apparently I agree with Carioca on one thing.
@@chadstratton4926 4th degree arson means a fire/explosion was attempted but did not result in ignition. If a fire did occur, there was a fire extinguisher to resolve that. You're being dramatic. Calling the fire department would've been totally unnecessary at that point.
@@okstate999 Dramatic is accusing someone of Arson because they are spraying air freshener. The absence of the fire department joins the lack of urgency in breaching the door as evidence of bad faith/knowing perjury regarding the arson allegation.
This made me sad to watch. I hope that female officer finds herself in a vulnerable situation at some point, and that the people dealing with her shows her the same amount of compassion, empathy and respect as she showed this poor woman.
Why didn't you try to get her niece on the phone? That might have helped her.
why did he remove her scarf and accessories
They treated that dog better than they treated her.
Dog is more important than an old hag
@@Getstr8cash you sound like you were raised by wolves
Why are yall denying her water?????
What were the cops to do; just leave her in there?
@@blahblahsaurus2458 You think a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist would be able to resolve any situation without the use of violence? Sounds like a fairy tale to me..
Absolutely disgusting. These officers are a disgrace to the force.
Highly unprofessional
Maybe I missed something but in all of the time spent (was it 5 hours), no one could call the mental health organization to come out and help her? Trying to figure out why she was tormented, attacked and arrested when she clearly was sick and needed mental health professionals not cops??? I mean as someone who has suffered from mental health issues as a teen, even the paramedics would've done a better job at getting her the help; she really needed then what is displayed in these videos. Disgraceful and Sad!
Insane to me how much the lack of training shows you need to fire that female officer
Ok, obviously youve had the training you speak of. Tell us what was supposed to be done.
"Can be received as unprofessional" what other way is there to perceive this?
In all honestly how would you react if your every comment throughout your day was recorded then Criticised later? I would come across as uncaring as well. Some people have the luxury if working without being recorded, remember this when you see a "nonchalant attitude" from cops. People call to complain when cops drive fast to get to a call to help the victim. People also complain when they don't get there fast enough. How can a Dept appease every single complaint and operate?
@@Goodooleboy You really typed that all out and didn't make a single valid point, well done. There's a time and place for having a laugh, defusing a situation like this doesn't seem like the time or place. Show how unprofessional these officers in particular really are.
@@danman808 My actual point was readily apparent and actually proven by the amount of attention this issue has recevied. By showing how unreasonable the public reacts to ANY action a cop takes will upset someone somewhere, such as shown in the comments here.. To reiterate my point shows most people complain about cops no matter what they do, or how they do it and find a reason to bitch.
"Unprofessional" behavior is not doing their job because they know they will be scrutinized later about it, yet they remained professional and did their job and are dealing with the scrutiny. You never participated in an inappropriate conversation, made a comment, said a curse word at work or otherwise, about anything? If not congrats on reaching Sainthood status! The rest of world has, Anyway its called being human, sometimes human do human things. They did their job properly, call it a day there and avoid the nagging. BTW, what do you do for a job?
@@danman808 Additionally, as far as "A time and place for having a laugh.." Cops go from call to call where minutes before themselves or a partner is getting attacked physically by some idiot, then the next call is a simple parking complaint at times on a daily basis. Most people would end up in therapy and posting endlessly if they got attacked traumatized for months/years on end if they encountered just one intense call cops went on. In fact, many make some dramatic FB post just because they get pulled over for speeding and receive a ticket, then recount the "tragic events" of the traffic stop for years to come to whomever will listen.
Cops instead stoically just respond to the next call and crack a remark to undo the stress of the work they do on scene.. That is how it is when at a higher call volume agency.
Stack on the other BS of officers decorum, yet the police did their job professionally there, which means handling business and moving to the next "crisis" Karen calls in.
@@Goodooleboy You can say whatever you want in an attempt to justify this behavior but there's no denying the unprofessionalism showed on this call.
They did nothing, thank you for your service!
Really unresponsive you guys need to be fired even the female that made it worse she kept asking for water and you guys refused
This officer should be immediately terminated. How can an agency support this kind of behavior from it's officers. Are this standar operating procedures. This is an embarrassment for all law enforcement agencies. Specially Tulsa police.
"You were trying to catch the bathroom on fire".. proof?
At 23:53 - LaDonna Paris: What's your name? Officer Kim Carrocia: LaDonna, my name is Officer Carrocia, and you're gonna open the door for me right now, OK? We want you to come out and leave the premises. I'd like you to open the door for me please LaDonna. Ladonna Paris: Do you know of SGT. Christopher Robertson? Officer Kim Carrocia: Christopher Robertson, like the guy with Winnie The Pooh? Ladonna Paris: No, the guy from The Bold and the Beautiful, stuck in Ramsey Street. WRONG!!! Officer Kim Carrocia: LaDonna open the door. LaDonna Paris: No I need you to call Christopher Robertson. Officer Kim Carrocia: No LaDonna, I'm not calling anybody else. JONATHON WALKER: Well then you and your comrade Tulsa Police Officers are going to get F**KING pepper sprayed my N***A. ***PEPPERSPRAY IN PROGRESS*** JONATHON WALKER: GET BACK, GET BACK, GET THE F**K BACK MY N***AZ.
Trying to figure what the plan is. Why are they treating her like a criminal? She didn’t commit a crime. Why are they just standing there looking at her? I feel sorry for her, it’s obvious she is scared. Can’t they tell she’s mentally I’ll, what are the police trying to accomplish. Arresting her for arson? There was no smoke or fire. The manager said there’s no damage to the bathroom
Am sick to the core.....the old grandma is begging for water.she keeps on saying am sorry.am sorry.
She was right next to a sink for 4-5 hours you idiot.
Of course Tulsa police stands by thier action. Because just like every other police department including Tulsa police department thinks they are above the law and entitled to use unnecessary use of unlawful use of force. They could have handled this better.
Tense situation but where is the professionalism
At some point people will be tired of seeing such atrocities being “within policy” and take action. Some folks will decidedly begin defending themselves against those policies.
Hmm. What kind of action would that be?
That lady officer was really unprofessional.
They also dognapped her dog? Did she get her dog back?
Unprofessional and disgusting!
At 1:12:34 - JONATHON WALKER: Actually, I was in the bathroom with Ladonna Paris at the time, I almost set the whole building ablaze, I dispensed the aerosol. I said "GET THE F**K BACK NOW!!!!!" And I set the whole building on fire.
I cant imagine why citizens hate the police. Boggles me.
Christopher Robertson refers to SGT. CHRIS ROBERTSON.
I believe everything would have went better if that female officer wasn't present. She escalated the whole damn situation.
How? It wasn't going anywhere. When the friendly approach doesn't work, it's time to move on to a different strategy.
The entire situation is jacked up. I've seen enough; and I'm completely lost for words. I'm going to have to sit this one out because I wouldn't want the UA-cam police to ban my channel. #justice4ladonna🌹
Why was she arrested again..? She didn't do anything wrong at all..
Since she was told to leave and not come back she's trespassing and that alone could get her arrested because she is doing something wrong at that point.
Your department is a disgrace. How disgusting! Criminals with badges.
Chrissy is no better than the cops. She didn’t help a thing - very rude.
the woman fell to the ground and hurt her face from the blow that the aggressive officer gave her
They wouldn’t get her water because they were mad at her.
If we don’t recognize that police department have a problematic foundation and that this problems are at the core, it is hard to see real progress in the near future
Wont even give her some water. where's the humanity of these cops. any people with common sense could see that she's not all there at that moment. seriously TPD is the best!hope when you get some manic episode someday you will be treated the same.
Around 47:30 she admits to killing the dog's brother 2 weeks prior.
It's not pretty. It looks horrible. A citizen who when paramedics offered to take her to the hospital refused and drove off went into private property and locks herself in a bathroom for an extended time. When police are called to have her removed from property, they call for the mental health response team but it was busy with another call. Police do what they are paid to do and finally, after an extended amount of time, kick the door in injuring the woman and handcuff her and remove her. The "shop talk" of "this is going to be fun" and the giggles etc along with the discussion of what charges are applicable is all really standard - it's not pretty, Grateful we all don't have a camera and mic strapped to us so every moment can be reviewed by the world at-large. But because it's all recorded we get to see it. The key take always are that Tulsa needs more funding for more mental health response teams, the officers need to remember that, unlike other professions, a microphone and camera are capturing all of the "shop talk" so they need to really be on-guard and Tulsa PD, in accordance with state law and their own policy need to release details about the investigation to the public. Police work isn't pretty, it's down-right horrific to see what it actually looks like to legally deprive someone of their freedom and take them into custody. But this is the job, this is reality, it's horrific to see, wouldn't want my mom or grandmother or anyone's mom or grandmother to be videoed in that condition. But I really don't see anything wrong with the actual actions of the PD. The situation is sad, optics or horrid and the reality is that if you want your loved one treated with care, compassion, kit gloves and gentleness then you better do it yourself or get them the help they need because if you or someone else call the police, they will do what they are trained to do and it won't look pretty and it won't feel good. If you want a different reaction than you see in this video then change the policy makers, change the policy and fund more mental health response teams. For me, 65k-70k isn't enough to have to do the job with a camera and microphone and an entire world looking in Sunday morning quarterbacking my every comment and every move.
She reminds me of Terry Davis, the way she talks... What he had to live through and she does makes me fucking sad man.
It’s on tik tok now, watching them come for your badges is gonna be SO FUN!!
I’ve been knowing Ladonna all my life. She’s the sweetest person. My heart hurts for her right now! I pray the Cummings family sues them and I hope the officers are fired!!! And give her some water for the love of God!!
Wow, Ladonna seems so sweet too. Just battling some mental health issues but NO ONE deserves to be treated that way. Please tell me how she is doing now, my heart hurts so much for her. I've been crying as well because she's just a beautiful soul and it makes me furious how she was treated that day.
I used to buy cokane from her. She used to saty off sharriden close to dawson
@@Charee123did you know you had rights? The constitution says you do and so do I
Horrible policing.
You were on the floor when we came in😂 that’s a pile of dog s**it body camera shots you kicking the door into her face and knocking her to the ground…and they probably got a tisk tisk on the hand and are still on duty.. B.S
This is sickeningly disgusting and shows so many abhorrent violations of human respect, dignity, care. And these are the people supposedly trained and exhausted and prepare to SERVE?? Protect? Keep members of the community safe and at peace?
Officer Ronni did NOTHING WRONG!!!...Get it?
officer Ronni is sadistic & i hope someone she loves has the same thing happen to them
@@jennifermillican3190 Believe me, Jennifer.Some of the most compassionate people I have ever known are cops.The LEAST compassionate are the BUTCHERS in white coats who work in the HELLth care industry and Big pHARMa.
FIRE THAT low class cop she will get hers
It is transparent your policy to accept this poor behavior is a failure! Law-enforcement deals daily with mental health patients how do these two not know how to communicate?
Please name the female
Ok...she is really out there...but C'mon....get her a little water for gosh sakes.....a little compassion...they have none...too busy being jocks
I've watched all the videos, is there any real evidence that she is trying to start a fire?
All I heard was the cop say that's what she's doing without ever actually seeing her with the can and the lighter in her hands. If she was actually trying to start a fire, there would have been one with the amount that she was spraying, there certainly would have been an explosion with one spark. The woman said she had diarrhea, maybe she was simply trying to cover up the smell, excessive yes, but obviously the poor woman is not thinking properly.
This is disgusting, these cops treated her like a piece of garbage.
In the end after being terribly mistreated for over a month the judge dropped the charges so obviously she was not trying to burn any cops or start a fire!!!
The female cop is a brute, she should never work in law enforcement again. Unreal!!!
Sad!
Nothing cool about TAWS...did you at least follow up with the dog? Hopes she was pulled by a rescue 😔
I miss Tulsa so much. I used to watch Tulsa Homicide Dept on 48 hrs but can't get that anymore. So excited I found TPD on you tube today. You guys are great!
I saw nothing indicating she was trying to set you on fire...NOT GUILTY... Crochet? Really what the F is wrong with you all... that's AGEISM...my mom is 77 and gets around FINE living HER LIFE. How DARE YOU INSULT this woman because of her AGE!!!!!
great Job officers
And how the hell do we not know if they just went back in and bought a damn lighter and said it was hers?????? Where is that body cam footage for that??? I really hope they reviewed ALL THE FOOTAGE. These are all some dirty ass cops anyway as we can see
The pack of smokes
She did have a lighter
"But why doesn't the public like us anymore????"
It takes all of about 30sec to see that the woman isn't all there. But let's turn it into a violent encounter...
That big boy kicked the duck out of that door.
The good god at 20:16 is lowkey funny