Apple's WORST Deal in 2024 - iPhone SE is Overpriced!
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- The iPhone SE (3rd gen) STILL costs $429, for what is essentially a 6 year old phone with an A15 chipset. The iPhone 13 is $600 and is way, WAY better value - DO NOT BUY THE IPHONE SE! Apple, please lower this price, it's absurd.
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Since the iPhone SE's launch in early 2022, it's remained at $430 for what is at its core an iPhone 8 with an A15 chip. In the same timeframe, the iPhone 13 has gone from $800 to $600. Right now, the iPhone 13 comes with twice the base storage, a much more premium build, a bigger way better display, and significantly better camera system for $170 more.
The iPhone SE is TERRIBLE value right now, please do not buy it. I like the SE as a phone, but don't give Apple your money- turn to the used market, where it can be had for half the price in good condition.
Wee poo your so right josh
Tracfone,Simple Mobile, Straight Talk SE 2022 is 149.99 new.
If Apple lowered their prices, they would do a whole lot better. Whe Else agreed with me?
The iPhone 12 is currently available from Apple's US refurbished store at $449 which is a vastly better option that the SE at $429.
@@michaelcaywood6070 If everyone lowered prices things would be much better. Gasoline,food,healthcare, electricity. I paid more for my truck than I did for my house Good day.
The fact that they removed the 13 mini just to sell the se is such a scumbag move from apple
@@WiiManElite its not 800 💀 its wouldve been 500. And its a really goo phone its just smaller in size. Not everyone wants a tv in there pocket
@@WiiManElite ???
@@WiiManEliteit’s not $800 anymore and the 13 mini is better quality than se, get your facts right before commenting
@WiiManElite the 15 is 799...
I have my iPhone 13 mini still going strong. Just need to replace the battery since it is now at 88% health but this is the best phone I have used in a long time. And on Amazon, at least Amazon Germany, as of September 19 2023 you can still get new 13 mini iPhones however they aren’t really much cheaper than the regular 13, maybe like 20-50€
Rip mini lineup, that was the best phone apple ever made other than the 5s
Amen
I see the mini coming back in the form of the next SE
@@mrmarky4268 That would be the best case scenario, but personally I don’t think it will happen.
😂
I’m running an XR, but next year I was thinking of getting a 13 mini. Then I realised how little major updates it would get and I discarded the idea. I really wanted a mini ;-;
Here’s an idea for the SE: literally just make it the 13 Mini. Don’t even change anything, maybe give it new colors and a slightly better battery. Just sell the 13 Mini for $430 and call it the SE
As cool as that would be in reality it would basically be an iPhone 15 mini and there’s no way Apple would sell that for under $600
@@SethCocker05it would have a two year old chipset .. what you mean?
@@nicholas.alan85*last year chipset. Iphone 14 use the same chip
@@mehshutup3041 you right! Just another reason why I switched to my pixel. 😂😂
The thing though… older people or just tech illiterate people like the home button. But Face ID is very intuitive, so… eh, the SE absolutely needs to be updated more. I get its place, but the pricing is defo a scam in the current year.
A side note, I would LOVE a “Pro” phone in the “Mini” form factor.
Fun fact, my brother has the 2022 SE, and his battery health was at 78% after just a little over a year. (and it started expanding a month ago and the cheapest option for him was to replace the phone entirely lol) Such great value for that much, Apple. Very cool!.... What an Apple moment
And don't forget its super environmentally friendly to replace the whole phone instead of the faulty part! Go Apple!!
@@TadR1 yeah they're so green! I LOVE EWASTE, WOOHOOOO SO GREEN
2022 apple batteries are terrible. Mine is at 83 exactly a year from new.
If your iPhone battery health is 80% or less within a year, that is considered abnormal behaviour by apple, and you can get a free battery replacement. (In Europe at least)
Just make sure to charge your phone when it’s low on battery. And keep it out of the sunlight because that could speed up the battery degradation process.
The SE would be cool at$299
Fully agree! In the very least, that'd be a reasonable price point.
Unfortunately, Apple would rather line their pockets, so here we are with the SE at $429.
@@91Techit should be 250
I remember the last year of 1st gen iPhone SE before it got discontinued in 2018 is $350.
I'll never understand (I do 100%) lol but whyyy remove phones like the 13 mini and 12 from the apple websites for people looking for a more affordable yet brand new iPhone.. they'd still be getting potential new customers joining the apple ecosystem and wouldn't truly effect any of the other models sales in the lineup lol just apple being apple I suppose, the se3 is a great value on the used market coming in at $250 and under on eBay but the new SE will definitely be the way to go once it drops. RIP the iPhone 13 mini lol sad I never bought one brand new just to keep as a backup device 🤭
Fr. I had to pay like over $600 for my iphone se
They should have *at least* dropped the iPhone SE back down to $399 🤦♂️ I don’t think that the iPhone SE is a “bad phone” in any way but it is a pretty tough sell at that price 🤕
It should’ve been dropped down to $329 instead of $429. The only people who use the SE in these days are Senior Citizens, people who can’t afford the higher end phones, or people who buy them for their kids. And the only reason I can just as to why Apple still charges $429 is that in their minds it’s because it has the A15 chip in it.
@@Peculiarsafe83 oooh, price 'em down to match the ipad 9 which serves a similar purpose, good thinking
Apple shouldn't have discondinued the iphone 13 mini. Instead, they should have discontinued this se model, then rebrand the 13 mini as the new se.even if they sell the 13 mini for 499, people would still buy it over the the current se. Apple has become so greedy. Shortchanging their customers without them knowing it because of their marketing.
The SE is SO important for us 10% that can’t use OLED due to PWM!
I’m gutted by all the rumours of the SE 4 possibly being OLED! GRRRRRR!!!!!
I've heard this from people before, that honestly sucks and I'm surprised it doesn't get talked about more. Really awful Apple overcharges so much for their sole LCD iPhone, but hopefully they'll keep it in the line-up and reduce the price next year to something more reasonable.
The only thing it really has going for it is the home button, some people just can’t move away from the older design.
That’s the reason my friend bought it, he was upgrading from an SE 1st gen and really wanted a home button so it still seemed liked a huge upgrade.
Same upgraded from SE 1 to SE 3. Best decision ever!
Besides consumers, there are a lot of legacy corporate uses of these style iPhones with the home button. I am an RN, and every employee in my hospital is issued one of these (either SE 2020/2022 or iPhone 7/8) each day for clinical communications. There is a ton of equipment specifically made for the form factor like multi-docks and battery cases that the hospital buys. I think this is how Apple keeps the price where it is. They sell these things to a lot of businesses.
Once u stop using the home button you get over it. The vibration on the newer phones help you get over it. And then going back to the button will not feel as good
@@casswashwash1070 You may be right. But in my case I’ve tried the X and 12 for months. But none gave me the satisfaction of Touch ID and the home button. That’s why I got straight to the SE 3
Shitty ass home button phone 💀
Damn shame Apple didn't drop the price on the SE because I would have love to get that upgrading from the iPhone 8. I personally like the SE more than the flagships. Even if I were to afford a flagship iPhone, I honestly am more drawn to the SE -- I like the size, given my small hands. I like Touch ID more than face unlock. I'm trying to be more minimalist using my phone, and I'd be saving more money from buying accessories like a case for the SE.
I get cases on amazon.
If they lowered the price to around $250 it would sell like CRAZY
Minimalist using your phone? Why not but a dumb phone?
Just buy the 13 mini
@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 nope. I still rather have Touch ID
Some carriers are selling the SE for $150 which is an amazing deal considering you’re getting the processing power of the 14.
I got my mom the SE2 for about $88 used last month. I feel like I got a bargain in a way lol
Metro by T-Mobile here in Wisconsin is either offering it for FREE or 99 bucks. It's crazy
“Processing power” of the 13 not 14
@@MachoManDan 13 and 14 both have the same chipset.
@@BruhHowDidIGetHere that is a bargain. People are still buying 6s’s and 7’s for that price. You got a good deal.
Awesome video! I will definitely share this with a friend who still has the iPhone 8. I’m trying to get him to upgrade to the modern Face ID, but he won’t do it. I think since he is from the baby boomer generation, that is why he does not want to change.
I've given lots of advice to older people over the years and generally, the SE has been a solid recommendation as it's familiar to them and has a long life of support ahead of it. But at this point, I really can't recommend the SE to anyone when the 13 is so much better value... it's unfortunate. Hope you can convince your friend!
@@91Tech thank you! My friend who still has the iPhone 8 is an awesome guy.
Earlier this year I was contemplating a new phone but didn’t need the latest and greatest. I found a good deal on a 128GB 12 and opted for that over the SE. I’m glad I did because the 12 is better in every way except the chipset is one generation older than the SE. But even then, the A14 still powers through whatever I need to do on my phone.
Im actually really surprised that Apple has the SE that high, I have an SE got it for $200. Every retail I go into has had it listed for $199. I never knew it ever sold for anything close to $429
Excellent video! You should do more content like this. I thoroughly enjoyed sharing your frustration.
Also RIP iPhone mini again.
Its the modern day 5C in terms of what you get for the price
Great vid 🎥, Josh. Hope that you & Cola are both really well x. 🇬🇧
Thank you for saying this I love Apple and my SE but they need to get their act together for those of us who love the phone because it fits within our budget I would love to buy an updated version with Touch ID in the power button and at an affordable price but I am afraid it will never happen
I think the 3rd gen Iphone SE would've been much better if it had more improvements over the Iphone SE 2nd gen, giving more users a genuine reason to upgrade. The only notable improvments were obviously the chipset, (which improved the camera software, not the hardware) The battery life, and having a 5G cellular connection as opposed to the 2nd gen's 4G LTE. Basically the same phone. (Not surprising, as that's just what apple does.) And the fact that it hasn't had even the SLIGHTEST price drop despite newer phones coming out is kind of insane. It's almost like apple wanted this phone to fail.
I like the SE because of its pocket friendly size and Touch ID. I have found that Touch ID is easy to use when making payments to different merchants and banking institutions. It’s relatively small size allows the phone to operated with one hand. I agree that the current price point should be lowered for you get.
If only they kept the iPhone 13 mini and canned the SE.
Out of all the Apple things so far, the discontinuation of the 13 Mini has me most distraught 😭
It was always nice to have the option to buy it officially new, and as an alternative to the usual large phones
Though after you pointed out how it is too close to the SE price wise, I can see now why it had to go, not happy about it though 😢
same, I would've been happy to get it even if it was a bit "outdated" but still newly produced
I was actually glad they discontinued the 13 mini as it was an overrated phone and deservedly flopped people want big phones and rightly so cos bigger is better.
@@WiiManEliteWhat phone is 800 cause mini are not 800 dollars unless ppl are reselling for too much
Indeed - they could just give it USB-C, leave it in single colour and storage option and keep it as new SE. Or iPhone Air.
@@WiiManElite Bro is typing this in every comment thread about the mini that he can find despite him being so astronomically incorrect its funny
Apple's pricing strategy be like: Let's charge an arm and a leg for the nostalgia of a home button
My Iphone SE 2022 still has 99% battery health, works great. I have it in a premium leather case and it easily last me a day. I bought it used from someone who owned it for only 4 months at the time, paid $150 for it. Works great with my Ipad 9th gen and Apple watch Se. It's a great phone, best electronic purchase I have made in the last few years!
Love your videos. Would love to see more!!
Great review!
but the thing is that it is nostalgic and it has a small screen i can use one hand for
I got the SE 2022 through my carrier for $150 new. I love the phone a lot. I use my iPhones for video creation. I had the SE 2 and wanted a secondary camera but found that a camera for video with about the same or better quality would cost significantly more than even the SE straight from apple. So now I have the SE 3 as my main camera and the SE 2 as a secondary camera/go pro. I must say however I’m pretty shocked how much better the camera is on the SE 3 compared to the SE 2. It makes it hard to believe it’s the same sensor.
Goes to show that sensors don’t matter much anymore, it’s all about the processing
Nice production level!
Nice to see ya back man ❤
WOAH coming back with the production quality! Lookin good
I like the video’s new format 👍👍👍
Me watching this on my iPhone SE 3 : 👁️👄👁️
I’m on SE 2. 😢
6:27 I agree with this statement. Recently I switched to working at a cell phone store and a customer came in to buy a iPhone mostly because they lost theirs on an Uber and basically couldn't buy one since they're so pricey and possibly knowing that they might have used the ones with a notch an SE wouldn't be an option since they mostly accepted that they may not receive their old iPhone back and had to go thru a financing process just to get a iPhone 12 since that was the lowest end iPhone we had at the moment. The 3rd Gen SE just does not make sense but is also would if a 4th Gen one comes with the mini body but iPhone 14 or even just the iPhone 13 mini design but gets upgrades that make sense and not just say that it has the lightest end SoC on our current gen device. I clearly switched to iPhone because I wanted to try a Home button iPhone before going to a notch one and that's what the SE 4th Gen should be. They kept the Home button iPhone for this long, it should be time to finally let it go and make the SE line as just the mini but maybe also keep it but like mentioned in the video, with a lower price than the $429 it is now
Josh: every iPhone is a bit over priced
😂😂so true
I got mine used for 250 and still thought it was a bit much however, I’ve had zero issues with it. The A15 chip inside is more than powerful enough.
I got my iPhone SE for $200 brand new on the service I’m using. Would never have paid full price
I was hoping for Apple Keep the iPhone Mini but nope. You are right in what they are doing
The thing most are missing about the SE is that it’s mainly a phone for older folks because a home button is easy to learn. They don’t need all the latest tech and are sometimes forced to upgrade from a flip phone since those are becoming obsolete.
Hi 91tech your channel is goodb
Thank you! I audibly laughed when they showed their line up during the presentation
So much wisdom here, thank you!
An important and overlooked feature of the SE is that it's very cheap to repair. For instance:
A new screen for an SE is $130. For an iPhone 13 this is $280.
Bruh very cheap should mean $50 screen. My cousin's iPhone xr when it broke, the screen was £90.
@@Darkest_matter You're right. I should have said "much cheaper" instead of "very cheap".
But £90 for a new screen on the XR? Converted to USD, that is roughly $110.
Which is not the "official" pricing, that is $200. 🤔
bruh yall think we gonna pay the apple tax?@@Slurkz
The SE is a great phone and clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. No everyone wants to carry a tablet on their pocket. Normal people just want a simple and nice phone, with a normal design that uses a home button. The fact that it is the same size my 6S is an extra plus, because that size is perfect.
The price point is definitely to high. I think it should be $250-$300 but the out dated design is a selling point for people who actually want it and prefer Touch ID. Heck, I have 5 iPhones ranging from the 2020 SE and older just because I like the design (8+ is my favorite). I just put a new battery in my 2020 SE last week so it will be good for quite some time and I put a battery in a 2016 SE last year that has basically been my iPod ever since. I’ve been carrying the 8+ for the last 2 weeks just for fun. I’m really enjoying it.
Whats the difference between the iphone8 and iphone SE?
It depends on where you look. I just got one for 49 dollars brand new from Walmart (with activation which was another 30 bucks for a month of service). My plan is to pay for a couple months of service on Total, which should than allow the phone to be unlocked and than I can use it as a second phone on my Metro account. Making the grand total cost of the phone 110 for an unlocked iPhone SE.
That Drum n Bass track in the background had that Ridge Racer flavor 👌🤌
Bought my iphone 12pro for €500 last year from ebay, could not imagine paying a little less and getting a SE
I purchased one for 200 on eBay about 6 months ago. I think it’s less now, but on a trade I’m getting 650 for it with a carrier deal. I can also say I like it much better than the iPhone 12 I had at work, that thing had a serious screen gap, felt like a POS compared to this se.
In Canada the SE I just bought my mother was $580 Cdn…the iPhone 14 is over $1000. So, here the SE seems like a heck of a deal
I have never paid more than $250 for a new phone SO it's always a new 6"+ Android and I use it until it dies. (I used a Razr3 flip phone for a LONG time, I still have it and it actually still works.)
I do watch videos about iPhones to keep informed. Maybe one day I'll buy one. Good video.
I bought a Motorola Edge 2022 mid-range phone for $250 on Amazon a couple months ago for my dad. 8GB of ram with 256GB of internal storage.
I watched this video from my 2020 SE I got as a gift; it has enough for me as I only use it for social media because it got sim blocked
Pssst in the apple uk refurbished section the 12 mini is £379 for 64gb and the 128gb is £419 ❤
I like how the SE is thin like the 6s & curve look which is why I got it. And I got it for $350 refurnished. I'll see how it goes.
You can still buy the minis at authorized Apple retailers, no?
If you go to the refurbished section on the apple website and look at the 13 mini and it’s cheaper like ???
269-299 MAX for 128 gig would be kind of budget option, for the hardware it containts probably 259 for 128gig and 299 for 256 gig
Bigger is not necessarily better for many. A substantial number of people want a small phone. Period. Full stop. Thats it. Features, brightness, blah blah they dont care as long as its small. Another portion want a home button. This hits both.
A follow up. Bought the 13 and with trade in on my SE3 and some gift vouchers, I paid £180 for a phone that was £800 a couple of years ago. A point of note: If Apple are trying to be green, why don't they give people an incentive by returning the original box to them when trading your phone in? That would mean less packaging produced when selling in their refurbished site.
i really want the SE for its size... is the 13 also small like the se?
No
Another best part about iPhone SE is a 720p IPS screen when it can shoot 4k videos 😂
i got mine for 150$ from walmart did i get a good deal?
I'm glad somebody said it!
Only I love small phone as secondary device
I hope for another mini iphone
SE has only problem is battery
I got a 2020 iPhone SE back in October 2020 for $149 with ATT prepaid service (only required 1 month @ $50 to qualify for the price). Phone was a great value at that price point and I still use it today!
Just picked up a new iPhone SE 2022 for $49 at Walmart with ST and a $35 monthly plan. Not all Walmarts participate, just the ones that have a 3rd party cell phone contractor at the store. You can unlock ST phones after 60 days, just did that with a $249 (now $199) ST iPhone 11 for my wife and put her CC sim in no problem to replace her iPhone 6SE+. It appears the iPhones automatically unlock after 60 days, though I did put an unanswered request in. It's an inexpensive way to get an iPhone. As far as the SE 2022 goes, it's a little small, but good screen and it's fast. Already upgraded to iOS 17. Got a $39 Moto Pure on CC and may replace it with the SE 2022 after 60 days. Hard to tell I like cheap phones (The SE 2022 is $429 on CC and the next cheapest iPhone 14 is $729).
I'm the person that doesn't want to let go of the home button 🤣 I went iPhone 4s, iPhone 6, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone SE 2nd and now iPhone SE 3rd 😅
The iPhone SE 2nd/3rd gen was only really a good deal when it first launched, I feel like after 2021 though it’s been a tough sell
My opinion, I don’t see Apple dropping the price on the Se 3 until maybe Christmas if they do it then but I agree it’s over priced
got a 13 my self green model 128 gbs
Nice job on the video ... and your spot on the SE is no way worth $429. I was kind of hoping Apple was going to Keep the Iphone 13 mini around and charge $500
I got my iPhone SE 2022 second hand in perfect conditions with box and everything for 250$, perfect value and what it should really cost (more or less) if Apple wasn't so greedy. I'm perfectly happy with it, I love the small, simple design and the touch ID. I'm not a photo/video taking guy, so I don't really care about those things much, camera is good enough for my little needs on that aspect. Performance is beautiful for casual gaming and I don't feel any sort of uncomfortable-ness for the small 4.7 inch display.
However, for 429$ i would never buy it, so I guess iPhone SE is only a good deal if bought second hand in good conditions for under 300$, otherwise its better to go for the 11 or 13.
I need an iPhone for work school etc but i can only afford an se hoping the next gen se will be much more upgraded
I got one from Walmart brand new on rollback for $149
I bought the SE 2 in red when it launched, it was cool for a while, a slight throwback with a tuneup, but it's nostalgia value as single depreciated.
It’s been on sale for around 150 thru the Tracphone Family brands on Walmart
i’m glad i watched this, i was going to buy an SE to replace my second gen SE but if the 4th gen is rumored for early next year i’m holding off
I bought my 3rd gen SE at the start of this year refurbished. It looks brand-new, and cost 30% less than MSRP.
I have a 13 pro with a severely damaged back, but Walmart has the se 3 for 139 which isn’t bad I can’t afford $540 to get the back fixed on my 13 pro , getting the se from Walmart and keeping it active for 2 months to get it unlocked is fine by me for now
I think if you can get it used with a good battery capacity, I got mine for a little under 200 which I think is an alright price for it. I'm switching from an iPhone 7 and don't want to move past the home button.
$849 for the iPhone 13 vs. $579 for the iPhone SE in Canada.
The original se and the 2020 se were great phones imo and gave me the form factor I wanted at the time. I never upgraded to the se 2022 as I did not see the point as it isn’t that much of an upgrade over the 2020. This year I will be upgrading to the 15 and I look forward to comparing them!
Fun thing that I was discussing this 3 days ago with one of my coworkers, compared to other companies you can get so much more than buying an SE for same if not less than the price, ‘forget about it you are getting an iPhone which is so much better than competitors’ he said, which I replied to him with well if we considered both to have same exact specs and same strength in all comparisons you are getting a very old fashioned phone when getting the SE which will make people think that you payed 1/10 pf the price you actually paid, this in itself made me despite apple yet I will buy the new 15 pro 😶.
Here in Europe it’s €529, which correlates to about 560 USD.
You guys had 2 years to buy the 13 Mini and didn’t. Why are there so many people coming out and saying how much they would’ve loved to buy one, how it’s the perfect phone for them, but apparently weren’t down to pay $100 more than it would’ve been listed at now that the 15 is out? $600 is too much for a phone that’s allegedly the exact phone you’ve been wishing Apple would make for years? Apple would’ve continued to sell it if it made sense and it obviously didn’t. If no one bought it when it was new and even less bought it when the price dropped $100, why would they expect more people to buy it now that it’s 2 generations old.
Hoping they will bring back the mini form factor into the next generation SE.
Excited to see what the next iPhone SE might look like 👀
it's gonna be an iphone x body and probably be $500. And then we'll be talking about how they're charging $500 for 6 year old hardware and how it's bad value. I really hope they prove us wrong but that's my expectation
Apple did me dirty! I have the SE3 and I was hoping to get the 13 mini for £599 when the 15 came out. I have a SE and felt it was time to upgrade. It is about £599 on Amazon and John Lewis. What Apple do? Drop the 13 mini and decide to sell the full size from £599! What's worse, if I buy it, it will be one day before the other sites drop the price of the mini to £499. I am torn...
I bought the iPhone SE (2020) in Mars 2022 for $200 with 93 battery health. Great purchase, my 1st Apple phone btw.
And now I was going to buy the new iPhone 15 but it’s expensive in Europe due to taxes €969 compared to $799 in USA, so I think the 13 pro is the best deal for under $800. Thoughts??
i have the 2nd gen se with 128gb and 100% battery health i got my battery replaced.. the only thing hate is the battery life
I have one, the "multi-sim" option is a scam. Sometimes it cancels a call ( I guess to reach out some info for the other sim card ). When you use it with one sim, it's ok.
In Australia, refurbished, you can get an iPhone 11 cheaper than you can get a 2022 SE. The iPhone 12 complete with MagSafe and 5G isn’t much more expensive either
All I want is a relatively small, high-storage iPhone with Touch ID, USB-C at 10Gbps+ speeds, and an OLED display. Will the market really not support that?
91Tech: The iPhone SE is overpriced!
Me: Water bottles are overpriced😂
got my used se 2022 model for $230 for work on eBay
This is why I expect Apple to possibly offer something in the iPhone 13 mini size but it will have Touch ID on an enlarged power button and a single sensor on the back of the phone. It may be powered by an "binned" A18, essentially an A18 with less functional cores than the regular A18. (Rumor has it that the A18 will come in two versions, one for the iPhone 16/16 Plus and a more powerful Pro version for the iPhone 16 Pro/Pro Max.)
My carrier sells the SE 3rd generation new for 149$ and the SE 2nd generation new for 99$
Just hope the next SE be this price to make up for this poor value tho
Expected A14 with single 12mp camera on that & 3500mah battery