Devil’s Advocate regarding the 90 degree clicks on a lens collar. When working on a tripod, unless those sticks are perfectly level every single time then the clicks can end up slightly off level. That’s what the artificial horizon is for. Rotate the lens relative to the sensor, not to a mechanism which can easily end up off the desired mark. Collar clicks are out of date.
Interesting! Imagine a little motor built into the collar that could automatically level to the horizon. (I know, just one more thing to break, but it's fun to imagine ;)
@@HenryPiffpaffYes that’s what I mean. This is one of the many moments in the video there was no comment at all on this. You know what’s also an issue with this lens? That it doesn’t have arca swiss dovetail cutouts on its tripod plate. Also, it would be much better if the lens tripod plate would be arca swiss compatible.
In all seriousness, is there a reason Sony, Nikon, and Canon refuse to include Arca dovetails on their long lens collars? It's been a feature on Sigma and Tamron lenses for quite some time.
It’s almost certainly a licensing issue. The big three just refuse to pay the royalties. In addition to my Nikon gear, I have the OM1/150-400mm 4.5 TC combo. Great lens in its own right and, lo and behold, A-S dovetails neatly machined in the foot.
@@brianlemke6017 From the Really Right Stuff Blog: "Joseph M Johnson says: July 27, 2016 at 12:04 pm · Hi, Bill. Thanks for commenting. Arco Swiss never had any patents on the dovetail design and never published any standards. As a matter of fact, many companies had dovetail rail products of similar design, but Arca got credit for popularizing the style. We actually came up with our own dovetail standard based on inches and have openly shared it with others in the industry. We make every effort to honor others intellectual property. Joe Sr."
I agree especially for the price, perhaps its a licensing issue. Regardless why don't they offer an OEM foot with the cutouts as an option on the side or a different SKU with the arca foot included, I'm pretty sure if you can afford a 15k USD lens you can afford a 15,100 or 15,200 USD lens.
You got some nice pics Chris!! Really like the tiger and the penguins!! Looks like an amazing lens which I will happily purchase as soon as my Lotto 6/49 numbers come up :)
Wow! Amazing pics. Love the look of this lens. Shows some depth in the Nikon lens side of the company too. Even though it is $15,000 they can make the very best of the very best.
interesting to see the f/4 'exotic' got a look see before the more 'mainstream' f/6.3 - hope to see your opinions on that one too. and maybe a comparison between the f/4, 6.3 and the zoom
@UnconventionalReasoning yes, but that's a total unnessecary extra weight and money on an already lightweight, but still heavy $ 15.000+ lens. For the few that might use other tripod connections (e.g. for Sachtler video heads still) some traditional threads for screws would fit into any arca swiss foot.
@@Glaucidius The replacement foot tends to be slightly heavier than the original foot, because the base is thicker to fit the dovetail. This means that the lens would be heavier if it only came with an Arca-Swiss foot. I'm not talking about a plate, I'm talking about *replacing* the original foot with a replacement foot. And since other brands like Tamron use the AS dovetail, clearly Chris and everyone else on here complaining should get the Tamron 600mm f/4 lens.
No!! A Nikon z 24-120 S would be a much better starter lens and only costs about 10% of this monster, new. Coupled with the Z7II you’d be able to do most of your photography with that one camera and lens and with enough pixels to do really big prints if desired. Cheers
Been waiting for this review. Not that I can ever afford it, but love seeing these reviews. Maybe some day I'll get one from NPS as a rental. Thanks Chris!!
love seeing you film around Calgary, was just at the zoo and grabbed some photos of the same animals. cant wait for next time taking my 400 5.6 there in February !
Would have loved to seen this compared to a cheaper 150-600mm zoom lens for 10x less money. Two people side-by-side in a real world scenario and see the justification for the price.
I can't speak for Sigma's range since I don't own one, but from what I remember it is fairly close to same picture quality as the Tamron 150-600 g2 I own. I can just say that just by looking at these pictures on a heavily compressed YT video, my jaw dropped. Huge difference in sharpness, and even in contrast. But especially sharpness! And if I was unclear, the Nikon reviewed is the product that are WAY sharper. ;)
The complaint about not having an Arca-Swiss foot goes to show how good the lens actually is. It was the only thing that Chris could find to complain about! For the idiots that state the lack of an ARC-Swiss foot is petty.....well you are wrong. It is a standard, and is a very secure and fast way to mount a lens. Especially important for a heavy telephoto lens. Also adding a plate to the foot does in fact cost more than $15.00, which someone in the comments said. In addition a plate adds a failure point to mounting a lens. I've seen them come loose and the results could be disastrous! I have a feeling that a lot of the people in the comments have never used a heavy telephoto lens.....
@@UnconventionalReasoning Absolutely. I have an RRS foot on my 500 f/4 lens. It is a shame though that the major camera companies don’t automatically put them on their bigger lenses.
Great Zohan review. Everything is Zilky Zmooth. An elf whispered in my ear, Santa is bringing me the 600mm 6.3 pf this year. I’m not disappointed at all, ecstatic in fact …… but that built in TC is sweet.
Super review. Maybe I missed it, but did you check focusing speed/accuracy with the teleconverter enabled? The thing that is often most affected with teleconverters is the focus speed/accuracy. Of course, the added telephoto reach also makes finding and holding a fast moving subject that much more difficult, which also affects focus speed/accuracy. PS, I agree 100% about the lack of Arca-Swiss compatibility and it is a show-stopper if the tripod collar does not lock down fully.
There’s got to be some secret handshake deal between the big three (Nikon, Sony, Canon) and the elves that make Arca Swiss! None of the big three have that feature and they for damn sure have received that feedback in droves and for years!
at 3:59 completely true Chris .arca Swiss dove tail my Bokehmaster 105mm F1.4 came with that some years ago .this lens is out of reach for the most Persons nice review !
If Nikon Japan has any sense or honour, they will launch replacement lens foot with arca Swiss cut outs after this. I also loved that you mentioned the lack of physical VR switch and mode selector on lens. The other issue is the distance limiter at 10 metre to infinity is pretty restrictive.
@@UnconventionalReasoning with all due consideration, if Tamron can incorporate arca Swiss cut out in their 70-200 f2.8 lens ( which is more affordable than most brand lenses of same class and has very good performance) ... Then I fail to understand why some other manufacturers will not provide this facility to the customer.
Doubt they will change the foot; they've been getting hammered for not doing an Arca-Swiss mount for years and they still won't do it. It's not about cost, it's certainly not about awareness or feedback.
@@kurtniznik8116 Pepsi owned KFC and some other restaurants for about a decade. They realized that they were losing contracts with other restaurants because those restaurants were competing with KFC. Playing favorites in one space hurts in another space. Nikon choosing to put an Arca-Swiss foot hurts their relationship with Manfrotto.
This is lens is beautiful:D I guess Nikon could have made it the absolute perfectest of the most perfect 600mms. Like the tripod collar cutouts thingy Chris was talking about. And the clicks every 90 degrees for when you turned the tripod collar. Anyways insane job done here, Nikon. And as always incredible review Chris:D
Manfrotto is a valid quick release system. Maybe Nikon should build that quick release system in instead of ARCA-Swiss. Nikon lets you use the quick release system of your choice. No reason to put the other system at a disadvantage.
Well, I declare! Is that Chris with a little old strap on the camera 😊😊😊 Now you know that lens was really, really expensive ... before he even said the price 😂
it's a real shame nikon and sony makes such amazing super tele prime lenses, but with their awful minimum focal distance it really limits their use to larger subjects and you can't even fill the frame with a small bird becasue of it, let alone dragonflies and other large insects that are often too skiddish for macro lens range
Canon's RF 600f4 is virtually he same, closer MFD is only possible with zooms. The Nikon will get you closer with the TC. But learning to get closer to your subjects will always be a better option
@@Karkawry1970 Four meters is close enough, really. If subject lets you get that close, then learning is not a problem. But it will be more difficult not to disturb it.
@@Karkawry1970 Canon has yet to make an RF 600/4, they have merely bolted a flange adapter onto their EF 600/4 and sell it as an RF lens. I'm sure they're working on the real deal, and perhaps it will have a closer minimum focusing distance.
Looks to be a good lens. But I agree with Chris for the money why no Arca Swiss mount. There must be a reason why both Canon and Nikon do not include one. Would it be worth contacting them to see why, could be interesting to know why as this is bought up often
I agree that it is a serious error that the collar of this Nikkor allows the lens to rotate even when fully tightened... Personally I would not be the least concerned about a lack of detents at 0, 90, 180, 270 degrees. I do also agree it would be nice if Nikon machined an Arca compatible dovetail into the mounting foot. I don't know why Nikon, Canon and Sony don't do that... Tamron and Sigma do... and it seems such a no-brainer, low cost feature for the lens maker to include. (Not that a separate Arca style lens plate costs very much or adds any noticeable weight). Performance, build and image quality of this Nikkor certainly are top notch. But, frankly, EVERYONE makes superb 600mm f/4 lenses. Yeah, Nikon added a built-in 1.4x TC... but they also charge $2500 US more for their 600mm f/4 than Canon and Sony. You can purchase one of either of their lenses along with a separate Canon or Sony 1.4x TC and still have $1950 or $2000 left over to help witth the purchase of another premium lens or put toward your next photo safari. But, yeah, there is what I'd consider a minor convenience being able to switch the 1.4x TC in and out quickly, without need to remove the lens from the camera. I'm just not sure that makes the lens worth an additional $2K.
Whether the TC switch is a "minor convenience" or game-changer depends on the usage. And it seems that the person who can put down their credit card for $13k can also put it down for $16k. They're already in the, "If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it" territory.
Weighs about the same as the original AF-S 300/2.8 (the real original, without VR). Ridiculously light lens. The 800/6.3 being under 2.4kg is even crazier.
Mine just arrived last week; 13 month wait, but well worth the wait. Only have a few hundred shots (all hand held) on it so far but dang it IS sharp and ooooh the creamy backgrounds! As for price, I find I'm functioning well after selling a kidney :) P.S. -- you can't harp enough about the ridiculous refusal by Nikon et al to not put arca swiss feet on their lenses. Infuriating. Right up there with the 50 cent lens caps and $2 hoods!
You youtubers are so caughan up in that lense mount to have it click when rotated. So I assume that you always setup your tripod perfectly level?! I’m feeling that mention this just because some other reviewer said it in one of his reviews. You probably didn’t think about it before that (just guessing 😅)
What a pedestrian review that was. Here we have the best 600 f4 ever made by far. It makes ever other 600 f4 look like an 18th century telescope. The chasm between the Z 600 f4 and everything else is so ridiculously large that the others manufacturers should remote self-destruct their lenses in shame. And somehow obsolete clicks on the tripod collar was thing to talk about. Arca Swiss tripod foot was a thing to talk about. Same thing goes for the Z 400 f2.8. Everything else on the market is a child's toy.
Nikon rumors says there will be a Mark II for $18,000 to address the lens collar but it won't be compatible with the Mark I version. It will be available for review in about 5 years from now. 😂
Beautiful lens. I think it highlights how for super telephoto, too large of an aperture can be overkill. In the opening shots, half that wolf's body is out of focus.
That's the entire point of fast telephoto lenses. Insanely sharp focus on the eye and then incredible bokeh and softness no other lenses can achieve. You can always stop them down if you want more in focus...
If birding and wildlife was my profession instead of just a hobby….. I still wouldn’t get it 😅 that’s a lot of money to hand over 🤦🏽. Maybe if I hit the lottery or if the stock market had a major spike. Until then, I’ll just be content watching reviews of it.
APS-C is dead for professional use, it’s not 2017 anymore, Z8 and Z9 can crop on sensor for the same result, and still have a higher pixel density than APS-C’s - yet doesn’t give up anything in low light. I can see the argument in terms of price, but as soon as Nikon bring EXPEED 7 to the Z6/7 lineup (like they have with Zf) there’s going to be plenty of cheap but excellent AF bodies.
@@sgpork I should add a used car, which I am also barely able to afford. I wouldn't even have have one of my country actually invested in public transit . I also still wouldn't be getting that lens lol
OR, the Olympus/OM System 150-400mm f4.5 (FF equivalent of 375mm to 1000mm w/built-in TC) which is less than half the price, half the weight, 5 inches shorter, AND a zoom lens! OH, and it also has Arca Swill cut outs on it's tripod foot. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Nice review by Chris here: ua-cam.com/video/T0GK_HDz2Gk/v-deo.html. Hey, Nikon is great gear - shoot what you like, just being an MFT fanboy.
Perfect for street photography! Gonna buy two, one for my ZF and one for Z50.
It is the best lens for nude beaches
For when the street is the next block over 😂
I thought it's a wedding lens... lets you take pictures even if you aren't invited
@you can take pictures from your car
thanks, bought 10.
Was about to buy bunch of these 600 f4s ... but that arca swiss plate was a deal breaker.😅
Although this lens is just for a select few, it's always a pleasure to look at your images Chris. Thank you for your time on testing this beast.
Hey I really appreciate that! It’s a nice change from what I often hear. It means a a lot.
Agreed, the owl looking dead on and the penguins mid "discussion" are my favourites from this shoot.
One thing Chris didn’t mention in this review is the fact that the dovetails aren’t cut out for arca Swiss on the lens collar.
He mentioned it around 7:10
Devil’s Advocate regarding the 90 degree clicks on a lens collar. When working on a tripod, unless those sticks are perfectly level every single time then the clicks can end up slightly off level. That’s what the artificial horizon is for. Rotate the lens relative to the sensor, not to a mechanism which can easily end up off the desired mark. Collar clicks are out of date.
That's a solid argument
Interesting! Imagine a little motor built into the collar that could automatically level to the horizon. (I know, just one more thing to break, but it's fun to imagine ;)
I would still prefer clicks.
How many times your tripod is exactly leveled? Mine probably never so for me the clicks are useless
Exactly
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F*** yeah, that’s the vibe. I feel ya!
Can somebody tell me if the lens collar is cut for Arca Swiss style tripods? Not sure if it was mentioned in the video. ;)
It does not. You can watch the video. 6:00 and a few seconds they mentioned it!
Great review. But!, I wished Chris had mentioned the lack of a decent ArcaSwiss-Mount. That’s a NO-GO!
Wait it doesn’t have a ArcaSwiss mount?
Man I wish Chis had mentioned that, now I have to cancel my pre order
It does take nice hand-held photos without the Arcaswiss.
@@WaddyMuters 😂👍🏻
So funny this keeps perpetuated. Nikon are good, Nikon are great. Nikon are greedy. No Arca for you!
I’m surprised you didn’t comment at all on the tripod plate not having arca swiss dovetail cutouts.
3:53
Edit: Never mind...
@@HenryPiffpaffYes that’s what I mean. This is one of the many moments in the video there was no comment at all on this.
You know what’s also an issue with this lens? That it doesn’t have arca swiss dovetail cutouts on its tripod plate.
Also, it would be much better if the lens tripod plate would be arca swiss compatible.
Yeah seriously, I mean for 30 seconds of machining and a price tag north of $15,000 USD I would have said something.
In all seriousness, is there a reason Sony, Nikon, and Canon refuse to include Arca dovetails on their long lens collars? It's been a feature on Sigma and Tamron lenses for quite some time.
It’s almost certainly a licensing issue. The big three just refuse to pay the royalties.
In addition to my Nikon gear, I have the OM1/150-400mm 4.5 TC combo. Great lens in its own right and, lo and behold, A-S dovetails neatly machined in the foot.
@@djstuc Additional plate is just extra weight and bulk. Yes, not much, but it could be none.
@@brianlemke6017 From the Really Right Stuff Blog:
"Joseph M Johnson says:
July 27, 2016 at 12:04 pm ·
Hi, Bill. Thanks for commenting. Arco Swiss never had any patents on the dovetail design and never published any standards. As a matter of fact, many companies had dovetail rail products of similar design, but Arca got credit for popularizing the style. We actually came up with our own dovetail standard based on inches and have openly shared it with others in the industry. We make every effort to honor others intellectual property. Joe Sr."
unfortunately not all - I use Sigma 150-600 DG DN and it isn't arca compatible, have to use a plate.
I agree especially for the price, perhaps its a licensing issue. Regardless why don't they offer an OEM foot with the cutouts as an option on the side or a different SKU with the arca foot included, I'm pretty sure if you can afford a 15k USD lens you can afford a 15,100 or 15,200 USD lens.
I am used to having VR access from the body only now. Selecting through the viewfinder I actually find easier than fumbling for a switch on the lens
The penguin shot at 1:38 is fantastic!
Good review, as always 😊
'just surprised 🤔 you didn't notice and mention the tripod collar isn't dove tail machined!
You got some nice pics Chris!! Really like the tiger and the penguins!! Looks like an amazing lens which I will happily purchase as soon as my Lotto 6/49 numbers come up :)
Wow! Amazing pics. Love the look of this lens. Shows some depth in the Nikon lens side of the company too. Even though it is $15,000 they can make the very best of the very best.
interesting to see the f/4 'exotic' got a look see before the more 'mainstream' f/6.3 - hope to see your opinions on that one too. and maybe a comparison between the f/4, 6.3 and the zoom
+1
beautiful shots and nice edit
I wish more prime lenses have this teleconventer setup
wha? they put them in zoom lenses too.
Yeah, a lensfoot with Arca swiss dovetail AND QD (quick detach) port is really needed!
For an extra $150, you can get the AS foot.
@UnconventionalReasoning yes, but that's a total unnessecary extra weight and money on an already lightweight, but still heavy $ 15.000+ lens. For the few that might use other tripod connections (e.g. for Sachtler video heads still) some traditional threads for screws would fit into any arca swiss foot.
@@Glaucidius The replacement foot tends to be slightly heavier than the original foot, because the base is thicker to fit the dovetail. This means that the lens would be heavier if it only came with an Arca-Swiss foot.
I'm not talking about a plate, I'm talking about *replacing* the original foot with a replacement foot.
And since other brands like Tamron use the AS dovetail, clearly Chris and everyone else on here complaining should get the Tamron 600mm f/4 lens.
ive been thinking about trying photography, would this be a good first lens for me??
No!! A Nikon z 24-120 S would be a much better starter lens and only costs about 10% of this monster, new. Coupled with the Z7II you’d be able to do most of your photography with that one camera and lens and with enough pixels to do really big prints if desired. Cheers
Talk about a glaring oversight. Even my Great White Sharp has the Arca dovetails.
Been waiting for this review. Not that I can ever afford it, but love seeing these reviews. Maybe some day I'll get one from NPS as a rental. Thanks Chris!!
love seeing you film around Calgary, was just at the zoo and grabbed some photos of the same animals. cant wait for next time taking my 400 5.6 there in February !
"Didn't want to get in people's way" carrying around a frikkin bazooka 🤣
How does it compare to the 400 2.8?
Hi Chris, does it have cutouts for an arca swiss tripod head?
I've been combing through the forums all day looking for this answer. I still can't tell.
It doesn’t! I should have pointed that out in the video.
Loved your video as always, and thought you got some great photos in the zoo
I really wonder how this lens would compare to the nikkor 400 f2.8tc
Do we have a count for how many times Chris explained what loca is?
Would have loved to seen this compared to a cheaper 150-600mm zoom lens for 10x less money. Two people side-by-side in a real world scenario and see the justification for the price.
I can't speak for Sigma's range since I don't own one, but from what I remember it is fairly close to same picture quality as the Tamron 150-600 g2 I own. I can just say that just by looking at these pictures on a heavily compressed YT video, my jaw dropped. Huge difference in sharpness, and even in contrast. But especially sharpness! And if I was unclear, the Nikon reviewed is the product that are WAY sharper. ;)
I thought Gigachad would come on screen at any moment with that bg music
Where does the noct and plena measurement come from? Never heard that anywhere else but from Chris.
That’s because we made it, and it’s ours! And no one else can have it! Except Nikon.
The complaint about not having an Arca-Swiss foot goes to show how good the lens actually is. It was the only thing that Chris could find to complain about! For the idiots that state the lack of an ARC-Swiss foot is petty.....well you are wrong. It is a standard, and is a very secure and fast way to mount a lens. Especially important for a heavy telephoto lens. Also adding a plate to the foot does in fact cost more than $15.00, which someone in the comments said. In addition a plate adds a failure point to mounting a lens. I've seen them come loose and the results could be disastrous! I have a feeling that a lot of the people in the comments have never used a heavy telephoto lens.....
The simple solution is a RRS or Kirk replacement foot.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Absolutely. I have an RRS foot on my 500 f/4 lens. It is a shame though that the major camera companies don’t automatically put them on their bigger lenses.
Definitely the ideal budget vlogging lens, will be looking into it!
Great Zohan review. Everything is Zilky Zmooth.
An elf whispered in my ear, Santa is bringing me the 600mm 6.3 pf this year. I’m not disappointed at all, ecstatic in fact …… but that built in TC is sweet.
Super review. Maybe I missed it, but did you check focusing speed/accuracy with the teleconverter enabled? The thing that is often most affected with teleconverters is the focus speed/accuracy. Of course, the added telephoto reach also makes finding and holding a fast moving subject that much more difficult, which also affects focus speed/accuracy.
PS, I agree 100% about the lack of Arca-Swiss compatibility and it is a show-stopper if the tripod collar does not lock down fully.
Does the Sony or canon 600mm lens come with an arca swiss plate?
Does this lens have arca swiss dovetail cuts on the tripod plate?
There’s got to be some secret handshake deal between the big three (Nikon, Sony, Canon) and the elves that make Arca Swiss! None of the big three have that feature and they for damn sure have received that feedback in droves and for years!
The secret handshake deal is more likely with Manfrotto.
Yeah, shame about the lack of clicks and Arca Swiss connection. Also, they should have made finger indents for carrying.
nikon is owning full frame best glass by far
where is the video review of it from jordan?
Does this lens finally have a tripod mount cut for Arca Swiss?
85 1.2, 135 1.8, 600 TC, are my dream Z lenses...!
Great images!
Amazing lens 👌🏻
I would get it, but not having arca swiss on the collar is a deal breaker for me.
@@djstuc accurate :)
This is why I love m43 soooo much
Can you add an external teleconverter to this lens? Maybe not smart but curious as that would be amazing.
at 3:59 completely true Chris .arca Swiss dove tail my Bokehmaster 105mm F1.4 came with that some years ago .this lens is out of reach for the most Persons nice review !
If Nikon Japan has any sense or honour, they will launch replacement lens foot with arca Swiss cut outs after this.
I also loved that you mentioned the lack of physical VR switch and mode selector on lens. The other issue is the distance limiter at 10 metre to infinity is pretty restrictive.
Manfrotto may object... And RRS & Kirk probably like being able to sell their replacement feet.
@@UnconventionalReasoning with all due consideration, if Tamron can incorporate arca Swiss cut out in their 70-200 f2.8 lens ( which is more affordable than most brand lenses of same class and has very good performance) ... Then I fail to understand why some other manufacturers will not provide this facility to the customer.
@@TheMainakg Nikon may be more interested in not alienating Manfrotto than Tamron.
Doubt they will change the foot; they've been getting hammered for not doing an Arca-Swiss mount for years and they still won't do it. It's not about cost, it's certainly not about awareness or feedback.
@@kurtniznik8116 Pepsi owned KFC and some other restaurants for about a decade. They realized that they were losing contracts with other restaurants because those restaurants were competing with KFC. Playing favorites in one space hurts in another space. Nikon choosing to put an Arca-Swiss foot hurts their relationship with Manfrotto.
another great video guys. It looks like a fantastic lens. I’ll be at a bit expensive for most people.
This is lens is beautiful:D I guess Nikon could have made it the absolute perfectest of the most perfect 600mms. Like the tripod collar cutouts thingy Chris was talking about. And the clicks every 90 degrees for when you turned the tripod collar. Anyways insane job done here, Nikon. And as always incredible review Chris:D
Jordan's photography on this video 🤌🤌🤌🤌
Comparison with om systems 150-400 please !
Manfrotto is a valid quick release system. Maybe Nikon should build that quick release system in instead of ARCA-Swiss. Nikon lets you use the quick release system of your choice. No reason to put the other system at a disadvantage.
Well, I declare! Is that Chris with a little old strap on the camera 😊😊😊
Now you know that lens was really, really expensive ... before he even said the price 😂
Wonder if it was specified in the rental agreement
@@sharvo6 They don’t ever dictate any handling rules. They just look at me with disapproval because they know me well.
@@niccollsvideo lol, I thought I saw an almost-slip in the video, but I'm taking it to my grave, unless that was your idea of a joke?
@@niccollsvideo There's the regular insurance added to the rental. And the Niccolls Premium added for you. 💰💰
Is that a new telephoto lens or are you just happy to see me Chris?
it's a real shame nikon and sony makes such amazing super tele prime lenses, but with their awful minimum focal distance it really limits their use to larger subjects and you can't even fill the frame with a small bird becasue of it, let alone dragonflies and other large insects that are often too skiddish for macro lens range
That is where i love my canon rf 100-500 :). Rocking that lens for macro😂
Canon's RF 600f4 is virtually he same, closer MFD is only possible with zooms. The Nikon will get you closer with the TC. But learning to get closer to your subjects will always be a better option
@@Karkawry1970 Four meters is close enough, really. If subject lets you get that close, then learning is not a problem. But it will be more difficult not to disturb it.
@@Karkawry1970 Canon has yet to make an RF 600/4, they have merely bolted a flange adapter onto their EF 600/4 and sell it as an RF lens. I'm sure they're working on the real deal, and perhaps it will have a closer minimum focusing distance.
@@IanHobday Yes, I knew this but I wouldn't hold out for much in the way of a change in MFD, because..Physics..
Looks to be a good lens.
But I agree with Chris for the money why no Arca Swiss mount. There must be a reason why both Canon and Nikon do not include one. Would it be worth contacting them to see why, could be interesting to know why as this is bought up often
Perhaps they want to avoid playing favorites, dissing Manfrotto.
Very detailed review, but not even a single mention about the glaring lack of a cutout for arca-swiss tripod mounts.
first thing he said was the about that foot!
3:54
@@patrickmolloy6994 Obvious irony
Dang, that music was going hard! Mmmmmm, gurl! Bumpin!
try handholding a heavy lens like this with an arca swiss compatible foot without bleeding to death.
Replacing the Nikon tripod foot with one with the Arca-Swiss dovetail is about $150 USD for RRS.
Daaamnnn that’s one fine ass lens
Pre order 3 myself! Gotta have a back up
My Dad just got one about 2 weeks ago...I don't think he has used it yet..so Im gonna use it! Haha...Video shared with him
"My Dad just got this photography gear" is best followed by, "So I'm gonna use it!"
I think the foot should be cut for my proprietary Slik tripod mount.
My dream lens ..
love the lens. love my wife more !
I agree that it is a serious error that the collar of this Nikkor allows the lens to rotate even when fully tightened... Personally I would not be the least concerned about a lack of detents at 0, 90, 180, 270 degrees.
I do also agree it would be nice if Nikon machined an Arca compatible dovetail into the mounting foot. I don't know why Nikon, Canon and Sony don't do that... Tamron and Sigma do... and it seems such a no-brainer, low cost feature for the lens maker to include. (Not that a separate Arca style lens plate costs very much or adds any noticeable weight).
Performance, build and image quality of this Nikkor certainly are top notch. But, frankly, EVERYONE makes superb 600mm f/4 lenses.
Yeah, Nikon added a built-in 1.4x TC... but they also charge $2500 US more for their 600mm f/4 than Canon and Sony. You can purchase one of either of their lenses along with a separate Canon or Sony 1.4x TC and still have $1950 or $2000 left over to help witth the purchase of another premium lens or put toward your next photo safari.
But, yeah, there is what I'd consider a minor convenience being able to switch the 1.4x TC in and out quickly, without need to remove the lens from the camera. I'm just not sure that makes the lens worth an additional $2K.
Whether the TC switch is a "minor convenience" or game-changer depends on the usage. And it seems that the person who can put down their credit card for $13k can also put it down for $16k. They're already in the, "If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it" territory.
Get well soon!
1:06 music choices this episode, 🍵
Do they make it in pink??
The Barbie neoprene cover.
Almost bought 3 of these, but the lack of Arca-Swiss dovetail on the collar put me off
So it's just three Not in price while filling more than three spaces in the backpack.
Not too bad of a deal!
Weighs about the same as the original AF-S 300/2.8 (the real original, without VR). Ridiculously light lens. The 800/6.3 being under 2.4kg is even crazier.
You've definitely got Nikon's attention on the lack of an ARCA Swift style tripod cutouts 😂😂
Well done Nikon, looks to have AMZING IQ
Why you don't mention the tripod collar ? May be you should reshot this video and try to talk about it ;)
we need 18-600mm f1.2
And the truck to carry it!
Tamron is working on it, now that their partnership with Nikon for Z glass is going well.
Mine just arrived last week; 13 month wait, but well worth the wait. Only have a few hundred shots (all hand held) on it so far but dang it IS sharp and ooooh the creamy backgrounds! As for price, I find I'm functioning well after selling a kidney :) P.S. -- you can't harp enough about the ridiculous refusal by Nikon et al to not put arca swiss feet on their lenses. Infuriating. Right up there with the 50 cent lens caps and $2 hoods!
You youtubers are so caughan up in that lense mount to have it click when rotated. So I assume that you always setup your tripod perfectly level?!
I’m feeling that mention this just because some other reviewer said it in one of his reviews. You probably didn’t think about it before that (just guessing 😅)
What a pedestrian review that was. Here we have the best 600 f4 ever made by far. It makes ever other 600 f4 look like an 18th century telescope. The chasm between the Z 600 f4 and everything else is so ridiculously large that the others manufacturers should remote self-destruct their lenses in shame. And somehow obsolete clicks on the tripod collar was thing to talk about. Arca Swiss tripod foot was a thing to talk about. Same thing goes for the Z 400 f2.8. Everything else on the market is a child's toy.
You have a gift for hyperbole.
That is not a Nikon... That is a "King-kon"!!! Very nice!
Awesome
It's odd that Sony, Canon and Nikon seem to refuse to have arca-swiss plates incorporated into their lens collar feet.
What a nice lens for street photography
Nikon rumors says there will be a Mark II for $18,000 to address the lens collar but it won't be compatible with the Mark I version. It will be available for review in about 5 years from now. 😂
Damn I need to go to the zoo.
Beautiful lens. I think it highlights how for super telephoto, too large of an aperture can be overkill. In the opening shots, half that wolf's body is out of focus.
That's the entire point of fast telephoto lenses. Insanely sharp focus on the eye and then incredible bokeh and softness no other lenses can achieve. You can always stop them down if you want more in focus...
If birding and wildlife was my profession instead of just a hobby….. I still wouldn’t get it 😅 that’s a lot of money to hand over 🤦🏽. Maybe if I hit the lottery or if the stock market had a major spike. Until then, I’ll just be content watching reviews of it.
1:27 look at that tongue. very sharp and clean.
It is weird that they left out a few things that much cheaper lenses have.
If only there was a professional APS-C Z-mount body (D500 in Z form) to pair this with for mind-boggling reach...
APS-C is dead for professional use, it’s not 2017 anymore, Z8 and Z9 can crop on sensor for the same result, and still have a higher pixel density than APS-C’s - yet doesn’t give up anything in low light.
I can see the argument in terms of price, but as soon as Nikon bring EXPEED 7 to the Z6/7 lineup (like they have with Zf) there’s going to be plenty of cheap but excellent AF bodies.
I was going to buy it for my Z50 to photograph squirrels in the local park but... no arca swiss plate cut outs? Hard pass.
Homie, I'm passionate about wildlife photography, but not like that lol. That's a car, right there.
Wish car were so cheap in my country. Car here cost like 100k at least. And our salary not as if its many or few times of yours.
@@sgpork I should add a used car, which I am also barely able to afford. I wouldn't even have have one of my country actually invested in public transit . I also still wouldn't be getting that lens lol
Hmm. I don't think Chris likes the tripod foot for some reason
Olympus 300mm f4 (600mm=35mm) small,light and $2,900 new! Oh yeah, arca swiss!!😂😂😂
OR, the Olympus/OM System 150-400mm f4.5 (FF equivalent of 375mm to 1000mm w/built-in TC) which is less than half the price, half the weight, 5 inches shorter, AND a zoom lens! OH, and it also has Arca Swill cut outs on it's tripod foot. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Nice review by Chris here: ua-cam.com/video/T0GK_HDz2Gk/v-deo.html. Hey, Nikon is great gear - shoot what you like, just being an MFT fanboy.
I have 2
One for Saturday
One for sunday