Hey everyone! Firstly sorry I haven’t uploaded in a while ! I’m getting back in to it over here 😊 Second let me know what you think of the new 600mm. I think Nikon offers a great range of long lenses now (yes apart from the one big admission!) Thanks you so much for watching ❤
Nice honesty on the 600 vs 400. I have the 3 big FL lenses and I find the 600 is great workhorse, but the 400 the Swiss army knife. 800 is super specialized and was for a special project. I wish Nikon would look at a 50-1000 style cine servo as those things are incredible ( and incredible price) but the wildlife video prod masterpiece The Z9 is a great video unit and I keep banging on to NPS about how good it is like a broken record
Every video with Morten is going to be on another level. He can make videos about soap and still will be amazing I love his passion and love for wildlife photography!
“A lot can happen in 12 months”. Interesting 🤔😆 As soon as I saw the first jay picture I knew you’d been to Dalen. The lens looks fantastic but I think I’ll continue saving for the 800 PF. Although a lot can happen in 12 months.😊
Not a wildlife shooter, but this lens looks like an amazing piece of kit. Nikon is first and foremost a creator of optical excellence. BTW, look forward to more insight on maximizing my Z9 skills through your videos. Finally, you, Seth, and Matt need to do another extended live group chat. It's been too long since the last one. Welcome back, and cheers!
I’d like to see what you think about image degradation with adding a 2.0X TC to the 400 mm f/2.8 Z for an equivalent focal length of 800 mm f/5.6 vs. this 600 mm f/4 with the TC engaged and an equivalent 840 mm focal length. Is it worth the additional $903 USD for 40 mm ( $15,496.95 vs $13,996.95 + $596.95 for TC) ?I mostly shoot small birds in the tropics where I think the low light gathering ability of the f/2.8 might serve me better.
I don't get excited on Nikons new announcements anymore when they can't produce or fill the orders they already have.I ordered the 800pf months ago and my friend who is a NPS member signed right away for the new 400F2.8 and has been also waiting for months.I'm in my early seventies and will most likely die before the lens comes in.I hope my family gets my deposit back when it happens
Nikon are smashing it out of the park at the moment. Really exciting times for the wildlife shooters out there. Nice review Ricci, always look forward to these reviews. Very informative 👌p.s. If you need any more testers, give me a shout!! 😆
Appreciate the video, I actually did pre-order the 600 with NPS; birds and wildlife are my obsession, and what was really helpful was the comparison to the 800 6.3. I own that lens along with the 500 PF, and 100-400; currently planning on selling the 800 and 500 likely to defray the cost. My biggest concern was sharpness; would the 600 with the TC engaged at 840mm be as sharp as the 800, and sounds like it will be. I love the 800, but to have two lenses in one basically, and to be able to shoot at f4 in lower light is a real game changer. While bigger and heavier it's certianly lighter than the older Nikon 800 5.6 too.
Good to see you back, Ricci. I’m wondering when I am going to receive my Z 800 f/6.3 - since I ordered it back in the spring, Nikon have released the Z 400 f/2.8 and now the Z 600 f/4. At this rate maybe there will be an 800 Mk II even before I get the Mk I?
First and foremost, thanks for a valuable product review, well crafted and quite helpful. However, there is one aspect of the review that’s missing; availability. I’ve been shooting Nikon from the days of the D70. I have virtually one of every body since then and a huge collection of glass. To say I’m heavily invested in the Nikon system is an understatement. My key focus is wildlife - almost exclusively. I’ve made the transition to Milton mirrorless - trusting the company and the brand to deliver on the platform migration in a reasonable timeline. To cut to the chase I’ve been wholly disappointed. I put my order in for the 400 and 800 z mount the day they were announced. My dealer shuns me when I ask every 3 or 4 months for an eta. Since I’m retired this is actually a big deal for me. I only have so many days where I’m able to traverse the wilderness and handhold big primes or the tripods needed to “get the shot.” I’ve been told it will be about another year until I can pay Nikon for the privilege of having a suitable lens. At the point - I’m face a horrible and unpleasant choice- ditch my exclusive camera brand of the last 30 years and go buy an A1 and a 400 and a 600 - in stock at dealers - or wait. And note my large f mount lenses do not work well on the Z9. For one they turn on the VR motors constantly. So no VR lest I burn out motors that are no longer available for repairs. Sorry for the long complaint - but Nikon’s refusal to invest in adequate production capacity is wearing on me. So one ask - and don’t dodge the question please - what’s the intended production rate for 400 and the 600 - and how does that map to the installed base of f mount versions? Please get on the phone and call Nikon and demand an answer to a reasonable question from a loyal customer. And please don’t insult those of us in this situation- with an response of: know one knows - it’s the chip shortage - global supply chains are tricky…all that is bunk since Sony can put stock in dealers. Nikon knows the answer to this question- they just seem to be unwilling to make it public Thank you for your kind consideration.
Hey good to see you back Ricci, this was a nice surprise to watch whilst having breakfast this morning. Lately Nikon have been knocking it so far out of the park it’s proves to me it was worth sticking with them for over thirty years! 👏👍😀 ps the bokeh looks amazing too! 👍
One of your best "pre-release" videos regarding features, flexibility, honesty, and useful image comparisons. Well done Ricci. If the 400mm f2.8 TC is still held up in production (along with the 800mm f6.3 PF), is there any news about when this will actually be shipped (and how many?). ;-)
I love that Nikon produces these great lenses. But my limit, budget wise, is the 400mm 4.5. I tested the 800 PF and really liked it, it fits well in my bags ... but still I cannot afford it. I am happy for all that can afford the 600, 400 2.8 or the 800 PF, hope they are not few! Thanks for a great video!
Awesome video with Morten, and nice comparisons at the end. BTW, do you agree that the 400 2.8 with TC, looks sharper than the old F600 ? (560vs600) i know it was no direct comparison between these.
Hello Ricci, One more bit of amazing kit. Looks like very nice bit of glass So good to see you out with Morten. Sorry to say it is way out of my price range as well for me a bit on the heavy side but that down to me, not the lens. Stunning images to and great to see you tock the rain with you. Keep well, keep safe and stay happy. P.S. Some people should have this lens and Morten is one who should.
Your struggle near the end to describe why one lens might be the better choice over another is exactly the dilemma that many of us experience when considering the purchases. I really appreciate your empathetic perspective on this!
If the manufacturers always get the question if the tripod mount is arca swiss, then why don't they implement it. Its just pure waste of resources; IMO.
a lovely piece of kit for 5 digit $ lens, just wish this was the 200-600 Z so that the rest of the nikon users can enjoy the Z more. A lens for a small % of the user base over one that benefits a lot of the user base, a bit like waiting on the Z6/7III or the Z8, as there is little chance of a Z9 in the UK, just watching and enjoying great equipment. Your work as always Ricci, is the best and most balanced going, great vid, 2 of my fav Nikon photographers.
Hi Ricci. Did you by chance already try the z 400 with the x2 TC. Would be great to have your view on it. I was planning to buy the 400 but now you and Morten are making me wonder 😅
I think Nikon has a winner here. For those who had a D5 or D6 and then got onto the Z9, but still used the old 600mm with an FTZ, this is enticing with the built-in TC. None of the other manufacturers offer that. The only question for some of those photographers is, what's worth more: the old lens and both kidneys, or this new lens? ;) I do hope that Nikon will now (finally) turn its attention to cheaper telezoom options. This is an area where they currently have nothing. The 200-600 has been on the roadmap for a long time, and a variable-aperture 70-300ish lens or 70-200 f/4 also wouldn't hurt at all. But then I'd also expect Mk III versions of the Z6 and Z7.
just watched this again for the 2nd or 3rd time. I have a chance to buy a 6mo old 600Z f4 at a great price. any change to your thinking? [I have the 800 & 600PF now, and the 100-400]
Great video! Morten is my absolute favorit in wildlife photography, this fact alone makes me evaluating switching to nikon from canon, such a great gear, images are saying everything, this guy only can be right.... But, luckily for my bank account, this top lenses are so freaking expensive. The canon rf 100-500 is my limit, pricewise.... Does Nikon have something compareable, or maybe planed!? Thx!
Re-watching this just now and noticed the 'a lot that can happen in 12 months' reference, which I guess was a nod to the 600mm PF and 180-600mm lenses that you probably already knew much more about than you would have been allowed to say :D
Currently going back and forth on the 3 new Z super teles. I love the flexibility of the 400 2.8 but I don’t think I’m willing to pick significantly lower quality at 800. How big is the quality gap of the 400 with the 2x vs the 800 and the 600 with the internal TC?
HI Ricci looks like Im new here (I'm not), all good on my smart TV but not on my geriatric 2012 iMac apparently :) Not to worry, easy to track down a perfect teacher from Nikon :) Anyway, I'm pretty much sold on the new Z600 f4, as you stated, Nikon tool up for the most important stuff and let the "non" OEM do the rest (like arca swift feet) I see Kirk have a smooth grip option and Sure grip option Have you seen these? and would get the sure grip option? Selling my boat should pay for the new toy, just doing the research, was looking at the Z800 but I hear there is a 2 year wait, tomorrow, I'm 78 already :) Can only wait so long :) Nice and warm down our way (South Australia), perhaps Nikon could get you to bring one to my place for a week or so testing :) Regards, Gary ..................AU
Wow, Great job Nikon !! Love it!! And good to see you and Morten working together! Oh, and Nikon called again, They said to bring that new 600 over to me so i can test it out!
I have chosen fot the 800 mm F6.3 , price difference between both lenses is almost 11.000 Euro in the Netherlands The 800 mm is also very light and hand holdable.
Nikon NEEDS a Z S 600 f 5.6. This lens covered is FAR to expensive and way to big! My Z S 400 F 4.5 is perfect AND NIKON needs a 600 done this same way!
I want to go deeper in the wildlife photography and have a Z9 with the Z Lens 70-200mm f2.8. Now a friend of me has a 200-400mm with ftz adapter. What do you recommend should I go for the old F lenses or should I get the 800mm f6.3. Money is relevant here :-) Or is the 400mm f4.5 an option.
Just revisited this video as I’m trying to decide between the 400 f2.8 and the 600 f4. I’m tempted to go 400 and use the 2x teleconverter for the extra reach when needed for wildlife. Have you done any testing with the 400mm with the 2x Ricci?? Thanks.
Don't get too excited about this lense,as Nikon is wont to do, they will make 12 copies in twelve months delivering one copy a month for twelve months, much as they are doing with the 800 6.3. I am wondering if I may be one of the lucky 12, Its getting old Nikon,get me my 800,our patience is surely tested with your crap.
I’m trading every piece of Canon mirrorless equipment I have to buy this lens. I adore my Z9, I’m going all in. Nikon is the one I started with, I got sidetracked for a little while, but I’m 💯 back!
I have no douhbt that this is wonderful lens, however, who is the buyer? I´m a what I believe, a deticated amatuer photograper that loves to photograph wildlife. I hope you´ll understand, that I can never afford a lens like that. A lens that costs just as much as a pretty good used car! I haven´t seen the actuall price for the lens in Sweden but I take it will be somewhere around 200k Euro. If it´s not to big of a problem, I would like a response on this?
Ricci, I have to say i look forward to your videos with every nikon product announcement. That this video was accompanied by such beautiful images is a visual treat along with the thorough overview. Thank you for all the hard work you do for us.
While it's great that Nikon is releasing new lenses, it can't deliver. This makes them look unbelievable, I've been waiting for the 400mm 2.8 since February, Maybe the orders should be processed first!
Are manufacturers moving away from 500mm F4's? Nothing from the big 3 as far as mirrorless is concerned...... Currently using the 500mm F4E FL and would love to see a Z replacement with TC.
@@RicciTalks I’ll have to start saving for the 400 2.8 then. Be interesting to know how it compares with all the TC configurations. I.e. stacking the inbuilt with another 1.4 or just a 2x for 800mm.
I shoot real estate as a job but wildlife is my passion. Wish Nikon took body parts as payment. 😓 Morten is the only living Photographer I truly idolize.
Great video :) TY. I mostly shoot tiny birds, from (hopefully no more than) about 25 or 30 ft, so for me, reach is everything. If I had this 600 TC, the TC would be pretty much be engaged ALL the time. Also, the first time I carried it on my back, I'd miss the coolest shot of the trip. So having to carry my tripod and camera / lens in my hands at all times, the PF 800 being a couple lbs lighter, would be a big help too. < This said, I could definitely see an IQ difference in your comparison. As much as I hate to say it, I think the 600 TC looks slightly, but noticeably better..... which I guess, for the price, and the extra couple pounds, it should. BTW, I shoot with a Canon R5 and R7, and the super cheap, super light > super slow :) lol ... 800 F11, and getting some really nice, sharp shots, albeit, mostly perched birds, where I can run my shutter down as slow as I have to. Not a fanboy of any specific brand. I LOVE Nikons and Sony's too :) I'll take 2 of each plz :)
Hy Ricci Thank you verry much for this Video, it makes my decision easier, but as Morton said I would wish to have both of them 🤩 the 400 f2.8 and the 600 f4 but then the whole in the Pocket oh how big. 🤔 P. S. Thank you for all of your Videos.
I have recently got the z600mm and like it so much because of its image quality and sharpness. One question I have however, if I need the extra distance for birding photography, which would be the better option, add the 1.4×/2.0x TC, use the DX mode or just crop the image in the post production? Keeping in mind the image quality, sharpness and details. Thanks 🙏🙏
@23:00 - Ricci Rich, poor little rich boy! (reference to an American comic character). I have pre-ordered my Z600/4. I was on the list for the 400/2.8 for all the same reasons that Morten noted, but overall I think the reach is more important to me than the stop of light (wish I could afford both). The big question will be - will this make my Z800PF obsolete in my kit?
Hello Ricci, brilliant video as always and Morten adds value! Nikon is just bringing out the most fantastic lenses and I wish I could buy them all. I am just exchanging my D850 and D500 for a Z9 and need to decide whether I keerp my F 300 F 2.8 and 70-200 or exchange them for longer glass for my wildlife shooting! How would a 300 F2.8 work with an FTZ? Could I add a TC 1.4? If not, I loose the advantage of the crop sensor of the D500 and need to get longer glass, I think. I could get the 400 F2.8 and keep the 70-200! Would the 400 F2.8 work with a TC 2.0 IIIE or would the loss of quality be too much? I would love your opinions, pls!
Very interesting video, especially with Morton. Good to hear different points of view on how to use each Lens-in differing circumstances. Keep Well & Stay Safe. 👍🇬🇧
Thank you for your videos, Ricci. It’s so helpful to compare those Nikon lens. How do you think between 800mm F/5.6 FL with my Z9? Should I trade for 600mm Z? Please give me advice. Thank You 🙏
Hi Ricci, nice video. I need your advice. Is Nikon z6ii worth buying in 2023 January, for wildlife photography or should i wait for z6iii of which i have no idea when is going to release.
Great video 👋 If you have to walk far away to get your photos weight is important. Heavy cameras, lenses, tripod and other stuff can make you tired and slow you down. As you are getting older weight of your equipment is becoming more and more important. I have Z9 but do wildlife with Z7II and 400/4,5 - a great compromise between weight, practicality and my age.
Well that was very illuminating - thank you. There is just one other question that you haven't answered (I don't think do anyway) THE PRICE for the 600 TC
Will we see the Z6III this year? It's simply a must Nikon is not in the global camera sales charts with the exception of the Nikon Z9 which is large and heavy... and therefore urgently must have a camera for the middle class
Can I suggest a Z9 feature, pre capture raw would be really useful even at 15fps. High efficiency* or High Efficiency would be acceptable. Even 1/2 second.
Ricci, Nice comparison and made me feel comfortable that my Z800 quality is comparable to the 600. I had watched Morten's video already and can't lose any magic with his passion driven wildlife videos. A question: where do we buy the built-in filters for the 800mm Z? Any thoughts?
Nice lens. Little pricey for my pocket!!! I like your subtle hint of "there's a lot that can happen in 12 months"..... yeah you know that 200-600 is coming... why it's taking so long is baffling as it was one of the first lenses on the road map. One more I'm waiting for is that 135mm, that will be a cracker. I had an old d5000 coupled with a FF85mm and that produced some really nice pics. Again nice video, very honest and informative 👍 👌
Ricci AND Morton in the same video. BONUS! I've cancelled my order for the new 800 pf (never been happier about supply chain delays) and have ordered one of these new 600mm beauties. More lens than I am photographer :) but am so looking forward to getting it in hand on my Z9. I became addicted to a built in TC with my 180 to 400, so having one on the 600 is a big selling point for me on this lens. Thanks as always for your great video content, sir.
Because we mainly see you here on YT when new gems appear I hope this was a hint for a new product (body?) coming soon :) I vote for a Z7iii and wouldn`t reject the 1.2/85mm to come along with it 😁
I have the Z428 TC, it is very a versatile lens and can cater for a lot of situations. I have sold my F640 and was waiting for the new Z640, but after I got the Z428TC and used for a while, I really think twice that do I need the new Z640, maybe not now till some desperate situation pops up to give me a compulsory reason to consider it. :p Having say that, the Z640TC looks very cool!
I own a Nikon 600mm f/4 VR telephoto lens, the truth is the quality is very good even with the x1.4 converter, I'm sure this much lighter will be fantastic, I use it with my Reflex D4s and D5 cameras, just thinking that this is cvasi 2kg lighter makes me long teeth,. I find the option of a backpack interesting, but I think a rigid suitcase is necessary. Best regards.
Out of curiosity WHY does Nikon NOT have arca feet on their long lenses? Is it a patent thing or something? The arca foot is the first thing EVERY person does with a lens this size. Unless there is some logistical reason it just seems like Nikon is being obstinate.
@Ricci Talks Would it be possible to get the grip and either the 400 or 600, or even 100-400 and put together a short clip demoing its advantages. I've been singing the Z9s many praises in videoland and having your video is going to be a faster ref than me getting the grip. Nikon have a great video tool and some stunning wildlife lenses on stream. They just need to knock on more doors as some of my colleagues haven't realised just what a package it was.
Thank you for your insight. Both the 600 and 400 look like wonderful lenses. The professionals must be excited. Unfortunately, I am just an amateur. The cost and weight of these lenses alongside the bulk of a Z9 steers me away. I am currently holding a Z6ii, 24-120, 100-400 along with a D500, 500pf. Love the Z platform, but the cost and bulk of updating the D500,500pf combo is too steep. The A1, 200-600 is getting closer to the top of my list.
I had the 300mm 2.8 / with a 2x converter as my primary lens for wildlife photography. I have a bad back and walking around with it would kill me. I needed something lighter, and unfortunately the 500 f5.6 was the only option in my budget. Some day I hope to be able to afford one of those beauties you previewed.
Ricci - it feels like there is an opportunity to bring Morten to Africa on Safari and testing that kit on our wildlife! Now imagine that Morten documentary...
Thank you Ricci -- I have replacement feet from Zenelli for my 400 and 800 and so will move the one from the 800 to the 600 when I swap them. We simply cannot source the 46mm CPL in the UK. I am interested to see your detailed testing, with Morton. Nice overview and very nice shots.
Hey everyone!
Firstly sorry I haven’t uploaded in a while ! I’m getting back in to it over here 😊
Second let me know what you think of the new 600mm. I think Nikon offers a great range of long lenses now (yes apart from the one big admission!)
Thanks you so much for watching ❤
In your opinion what is that big omission?
Lots of people are waiting for the 200-600
Nice honesty on the 600 vs 400. I have the 3 big FL lenses and I find the 600 is great workhorse, but the 400 the Swiss army knife.
800 is super specialized and was for a special project.
I wish Nikon would look at a 50-1000 style cine servo as those things are incredible ( and incredible price) but the wildlife video prod masterpiece
The Z9 is a great video unit and I keep banging on to NPS about how good it is like a broken record
@@RicciTalks ah, I thought you were referring to some omission in the roadmap. Personally I would love to have a Z version of my 120-300.
@@RicciTalks is that what you were hinting at in terms of what happens over the next 12 months 😉
Every video with Morten is going to be on another level. He can make videos about soap and still will be amazing I love his passion and love for wildlife photography!
so true man! he can make videos about underwear and i will be inspired ;-)
please compare z 400mm f2.8 & z600mm f4
“A lot can happen in 12 months”. Interesting 🤔😆
As soon as I saw the first jay picture I knew you’d been to Dalen. The lens looks fantastic but I think I’ll continue saving for the 800 PF. Although a lot can happen in 12 months.😊
Not a wildlife shooter, but this lens looks like an amazing piece of kit. Nikon is first and foremost a creator of optical excellence. BTW, look forward to more insight on maximizing my Z9 skills through your videos. Finally, you, Seth, and Matt need to do another extended live group chat. It's been too long since the last one. Welcome back, and cheers!
Working on that too I speak to Seth & Matt daily
It’s like we are best friends 😊
I’d like to see what you think about image degradation with adding a 2.0X TC to the 400 mm f/2.8 Z for an equivalent focal length of 800 mm f/5.6 vs. this 600 mm f/4 with the TC engaged and an equivalent 840 mm focal length. Is it worth the additional $903 USD for 40 mm ( $15,496.95 vs $13,996.95 + $596.95 for TC) ?I mostly shoot small birds in the tropics where I think the low light gathering ability of the f/2.8 might serve me better.
I don't get excited on Nikons new announcements anymore when they can't produce or fill the orders they already have.I ordered the 800pf months ago and my friend who is a NPS member signed right away for the new 400F2.8 and has been also waiting for months.I'm in my early seventies and will most likely die before the lens comes in.I hope my family gets my deposit back when it happens
Nikon did a great deal by getting Morten under their umbrella!! A pleasure to see you and him talking about the new z600mm. Thank you for the video!
Such a pleasure to have you two gentlemen for a REAL overview of such a lens!!! Thanks you both!!!
Thank you for the kind words makes it worth while
Nikon are smashing it out of the park at the moment. Really exciting times for the wildlife shooters out there. Nice review Ricci, always look forward to these reviews. Very informative 👌p.s. If you need any more testers, give me a shout!! 😆
Appreciate the video, I actually did pre-order the 600 with NPS; birds and wildlife are my obsession, and what was really helpful was the comparison to the 800 6.3. I own that lens along with the 500 PF, and 100-400; currently planning on selling the 800 and 500 likely to defray the cost. My biggest concern was sharpness; would the 600 with the TC engaged at 840mm be as sharp as the 800, and sounds like it will be. I love the 800, but to have two lenses in one basically, and to be able to shoot at f4 in lower light is a real game changer. While bigger and heavier it's certianly lighter than the older Nikon 800 5.6 too.
Nice work, Ricci. Appreciated your visit with Morten, as well!
Thanks a lot ! 😊 I’m not sure Morten appreciated it 🤣
Good to see you back, Ricci. I’m wondering when I am going to receive my Z 800 f/6.3 - since I ordered it back in the spring, Nikon have released the Z 400 f/2.8 and now the Z 600 f/4. At this rate maybe there will be an 800 Mk II even before I get the Mk I?
Yeah that lens is cool, but what i was most surprised by was how great those images looked at 12,000 iso and beyond
First and foremost, thanks for a valuable product review, well crafted and quite helpful. However, there is one aspect of the review that’s missing; availability. I’ve been shooting Nikon from the days of the D70. I have virtually one of every body since then and a huge collection of glass. To say I’m heavily invested in the Nikon system is an understatement. My key focus is wildlife - almost exclusively. I’ve made the transition to Milton mirrorless - trusting the company and the brand to deliver on the platform migration in a reasonable timeline. To cut to the chase I’ve been wholly disappointed. I put my order in for the 400 and 800 z mount the day they were announced. My dealer shuns me when I ask every 3 or 4 months for an eta. Since I’m retired this is actually a big deal for me. I only have so many days where I’m able to traverse the wilderness and handhold big primes or the tripods needed to “get the shot.” I’ve been told it will be about another year until I can pay Nikon for the privilege of having a suitable lens. At the point - I’m face a horrible and unpleasant choice- ditch my exclusive camera brand of the last 30 years and go buy an A1 and a 400 and a 600 - in stock at dealers - or wait. And note my large f mount lenses do not work well on the Z9. For one they turn on the VR motors constantly. So no VR lest I burn out motors that are no longer available for repairs. Sorry for the long complaint - but Nikon’s refusal to invest in adequate production capacity is wearing on me. So one ask - and don’t dodge the question please - what’s the intended production rate for 400 and the 600 - and how does that map to the installed base of f mount versions? Please get on the phone and call Nikon and demand an answer to a reasonable question from a loyal customer. And please don’t insult those of us in this situation- with an response of: know one knows - it’s the chip shortage - global supply chains are tricky…all that is bunk since Sony can put stock in dealers. Nikon knows the answer to this question- they just seem to be unwilling to make it public Thank you for your kind consideration.
Hey good to see you back Ricci, this was a nice surprise to watch whilst having breakfast this morning. Lately Nikon have been knocking it so far out of the park it’s proves to me it was worth sticking with them for over thirty years! 👏👍😀 ps the bokeh looks amazing too! 👍
The fact you did this video with the absolutely most greatest wildlife photographer, what an incredible feeling!
One of your best "pre-release" videos regarding features, flexibility, honesty, and useful image comparisons. Well done Ricci. If the 400mm f2.8 TC is still held up in production (along with the 800mm f6.3 PF), is there any news about when this will actually be shipped (and how many?). ;-)
I love that Nikon produces these great lenses. But my limit, budget wise, is the 400mm 4.5. I tested the 800 PF and really liked it, it fits well in my bags ... but still I cannot afford it. I am happy for all that can afford the 600, 400 2.8 or the 800 PF, hope they are not few!
Thanks for a great video!
Hope everyone shifting their orders from 800 pf to this lens, so i will get my 800 pf faster on the line 😀
Awesome video with Morten, and nice comparisons at the end. BTW, do you agree that the 400 2.8 with TC, looks sharper than the old F600 ? (560vs600) i know it was no direct comparison between these.
Hello Ricci, One more bit of amazing kit. Looks like very nice bit of glass So good to see you out with Morten. Sorry to say it is way out of my price range as well for me a bit on the heavy side but that down to me, not the lens. Stunning images to and great to see you tock the rain with you. Keep well, keep safe and stay happy. P.S. Some people should have this lens and Morten is one who should.
You have to be kidding... that's amazing.
But the big problem is they can't even keep up with the current need for the Z 400 2.8 TC S
Hi Ricci, thanks for the video. why don't Nikon do a Arca foot by default ? - since it seems many people ask for this.
We ask 20 years for lens with TC, so perhaps in 2040 Nikon release lens with arca foot
They made you fly coach with the best long prime in the world?!? Come on Nikon! First class for Ricci!
Great first look, thanks guys!
Your struggle near the end to describe why one lens might be the better choice over another is exactly the dilemma that many of us experience when considering the purchases. I really appreciate your empathetic perspective on this!
excellent review as always. I really enjoyed your travelog to go meet Morten, More of these please!!
I’m certainly taking you with me on more adventures
If the manufacturers always get the question if the tripod mount is arca swiss, then why don't they implement it. Its just pure waste of resources; IMO.
I think it’s purely out of one principle: being universal.
I would love to see first party options for foot replacements though
a lovely piece of kit for 5 digit $ lens, just wish this was the 200-600 Z so that the rest of the nikon users can enjoy the Z more. A lens for a small % of the user base over one that benefits a lot of the user base, a bit like waiting on the Z6/7III or the Z8, as there is little chance of a Z9 in the UK, just watching and enjoying great equipment. Your work as always Ricci, is the best and most balanced going, great vid, 2 of my fav Nikon photographers.
THE LAST COMMENT " A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN NEXT 12MONTH"...HOPEFULLY THE MUCH AWAITED 200-600MM SHOWS UP
Good man I noticed Ricci’s teaser, too!!
Hi Ricci. Did you by chance already try the z 400 with the x2 TC. Would be great to have your view on it. I was planning to buy the 400 but now you and Morten are making me wonder 😅
I think Nikon has a winner here. For those who had a D5 or D6 and then got onto the Z9, but still used the old 600mm with an FTZ, this is enticing with the built-in TC. None of the other manufacturers offer that. The only question for some of those photographers is, what's worth more: the old lens and both kidneys, or this new lens? ;)
I do hope that Nikon will now (finally) turn its attention to cheaper telezoom options. This is an area where they currently have nothing. The 200-600 has been on the roadmap for a long time, and a variable-aperture 70-300ish lens or 70-200 f/4 also wouldn't hurt at all. But then I'd also expect Mk III versions of the Z6 and Z7.
we miss you and hope your doing good. we where wondering what happen to you
I missed you all too !
He’s on Instagram.
@@KidLexDC i know but we miss his videos
These shots look so vivid. The ‘pop’ of this lens is just amazing. Looks like the animals are about to jump out of the screen.
just watched this again for the 2nd or 3rd time. I have a chance to buy a 6mo old 600Z f4 at a great price. any change to your thinking? [I have the 800 & 600PF now, and the 100-400]
I think I'll be sticking with my Z 400 F/4.5 VR S w/ TCs for the time being ... (checks lottery ticket). 😀 Thanks for the excellent presentation.
Great video! Morten is my absolute favorit in wildlife photography, this fact alone makes me evaluating switching to nikon from canon, such a great gear, images are saying everything, this guy only can be right....
But, luckily for my bank account, this top lenses are so freaking expensive. The canon rf 100-500 is my limit, pricewise....
Does Nikon have something compareable, or maybe planed!?
Thx!
Re-watching this just now and noticed the 'a lot that can happen in 12 months' reference, which I guess was a nod to the 600mm PF and 180-600mm lenses that you probably already knew much more about than you would have been allowed to say :D
Currently going back and forth on the 3 new Z super teles. I love the flexibility of the 400 2.8 but I don’t think I’m willing to pick significantly lower quality at 800. How big is the quality gap of the 400 with the 2x vs the 800 and the 600 with the internal TC?
Thank you to both of you for that review. I am still waiting for my 800pf. This 600 F4 is amazing, but too expensive for my budget. 😢
HI Ricci
looks like Im new here (I'm not), all good on my smart TV but not on my geriatric 2012 iMac apparently :)
Not to worry, easy to track down a perfect teacher from Nikon :)
Anyway, I'm pretty much sold on the new Z600 f4, as you stated, Nikon tool up for the most important stuff and let the "non" OEM do the rest (like arca swift feet)
I see Kirk have a smooth grip option and Sure grip option
Have you seen these? and would get the sure grip option?
Selling my boat should pay for the new toy, just doing the research, was looking at the Z800 but I hear there is a 2 year wait, tomorrow, I'm 78 already :)
Can only wait so long :)
Nice and warm down our way (South Australia), perhaps Nikon could get you to bring one to my place for a week or so testing :)
Regards,
Gary
..................AU
Wow, Great job Nikon !! Love it!! And good to see you and Morten working together! Oh, and Nikon called again, They said to bring that new 600 over to me so i can test it out!
Ask your ol lady if you can have one 😱😱
I have chosen fot the 800 mm F6.3 , price difference between both lenses is almost 11.000 Euro in the Netherlands The 800 mm is also very light and hand holdable.
Nikon NEEDS a Z S 600 f 5.6. This lens covered is FAR to expensive and way to big! My Z S 400 F 4.5 is perfect AND NIKON needs a 600 done this same way!
I want to go deeper in the wildlife photography and have a Z9 with the Z Lens 70-200mm f2.8. Now a friend of me has a 200-400mm with ftz adapter. What do you recommend should I go for the old F lenses or should I get the 800mm f6.3. Money is relevant here :-) Or is the 400mm f4.5 an option.
Just revisited this video as I’m trying to decide between the 400 f2.8 and the 600 f4. I’m tempted to go 400 and use the 2x teleconverter for the extra reach when needed for wildlife. Have you done any testing with the 400mm with the 2x Ricci?? Thanks.
Don't get too excited about this lense,as Nikon is wont to do, they will make 12 copies in twelve months delivering one copy a month for twelve months, much as they are doing with the 800 6.3.
I am wondering if I may be one of the lucky 12,
Its getting old Nikon,get me my 800,our patience is surely tested with your crap.
I’m trading every piece of Canon mirrorless equipment I have to buy this lens. I adore my Z9, I’m going all in. Nikon is the one I started with, I got sidetracked for a little while, but I’m 💯 back!
The price in China is expected to reach 150,000 RMB. ($20,502), I don't think I'll be able to afford it in my lifetime🤕
I have no douhbt that this is wonderful lens, however, who is the buyer? I´m a what I believe, a deticated amatuer photograper that loves to photograph wildlife. I hope you´ll understand, that I can never afford a lens like that. A lens that costs just as much as a pretty good used car! I haven´t seen the actuall price for the lens in Sweden but I take it will be somewhere around 200k Euro. If it´s not to big of a problem, I would like a response on this?
Thanks for the review Ricci. Looks like a great bit of kit 👍🏻. Looks like you cut something out of the video after ‘a lot can happen in 12 months…’ 😂
is there a 600mm PF coming soon because i liked the 800 pf i tryed it out some days thanks great video again
Not that I know of no
Somebady get news about the 3rd genreation of the Z cameras??😁
I've put in my pre-order for the 600mm, I love my old F-mouth 600mm, but moving to mirrorless. 600mm is my go-to focal length. Great video Ricci..
2017 the year where my photography suddenly stopped. My 600 and my D800 got stolen.
Great to see you back and brilliant video interviewing Morten, but i'm sure the 200-600 will be just as good... lol
Who is buying a 600mm lens worth a fortune to get closer to a squirrel?
Ricci, I have to say i look forward to your videos with every nikon product announcement. That this video was accompanied by such beautiful images is a visual treat along with the thorough overview. Thank you for all the hard work you do for us.
While it's great that Nikon is releasing new lenses, it can't deliver.
This makes them look unbelievable, I've been waiting for the 400mm 2.8 since February,
Maybe the orders should be processed first!
Are manufacturers moving away from 500mm F4's? Nothing from the big 3 as far as mirrorless is concerned...... Currently using the 500mm F4E FL and would love to see a Z replacement with TC.
I would say we won’t see a 500mm f4 or at least for a very very long time
The 400 2.8 gives you a 560mm f4 so no real need for it
@@RicciTalks I’ll have to start saving for the 400 2.8 then. Be interesting to know how it compares with all the TC configurations. I.e. stacking the inbuilt with another 1.4 or just a 2x for 800mm.
I shoot real estate as a job but wildlife is my passion. Wish Nikon took body parts as payment. 😓 Morten is the only living Photographer I truly idolize.
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Ricci, you are very much absent here, must be busy testing the new camera that's coming out 🙂
I hope Nikon also announces Z6III or Z8 soon
Just awesome!!
Now to sell a kidney😆😅😆
Does it come with a medical warning because of the magnetic field like the Z 400mm f/2.8 VR TC S lens?
i guess so because they use the same new focus system
It is so good to see you back and OK.
Sooooo when will Nikon start shipping this amazing lens?
Great video :) TY. I mostly shoot tiny birds, from (hopefully no more than) about 25 or 30 ft, so for me, reach is everything. If I had this 600 TC, the TC would be pretty much be engaged ALL the time. Also, the first time I carried it on my back, I'd miss the coolest shot of the trip. So having to carry my tripod and camera / lens in my hands at all times, the PF 800 being a couple lbs lighter, would be a big help too. < This said, I could definitely see an IQ difference in your comparison. As much as I hate to say it, I think the 600 TC looks slightly, but noticeably better..... which I guess, for the price, and the extra couple pounds, it should. BTW, I shoot with a Canon R5 and R7, and the super cheap, super light > super slow :) lol ... 800 F11, and getting some really nice, sharp shots, albeit, mostly perched birds, where I can run my shutter down as slow as I have to. Not a fanboy of any specific brand. I LOVE Nikons and Sony's too :) I'll take 2 of each plz :)
Morten, you found the Red Squirrels. 😊
Hy Ricci Thank you verry much for this Video, it makes my decision easier, but as Morton said I would wish to have both of them 🤩 the 400 f2.8 and the 600 f4 but then the whole in the Pocket oh how big. 🤔
P. S. Thank you for all of your Videos.
I have recently got the z600mm and like it so much because of its image quality and sharpness.
One question I have however, if I need the extra distance for birding photography, which would be the better option, add the 1.4×/2.0x TC, use the DX mode or just crop the image in the post production?
Keeping in mind the image quality, sharpness and details.
Thanks 🙏🙏
@23:00 - Ricci Rich, poor little rich boy! (reference to an American comic character). I have pre-ordered my Z600/4. I was on the list for the 400/2.8 for all the same reasons that Morten noted, but overall I think the reach is more important to me than the stop of light (wish I could afford both). The big question will be - will this make my Z800PF obsolete in my kit?
Hello Ricci, brilliant video as always and Morten adds value! Nikon is just bringing out the most fantastic lenses and I wish I could buy them all. I am just exchanging my D850 and D500 for a Z9 and need to decide whether I keerp my F 300 F 2.8 and 70-200 or exchange them for longer glass for my wildlife shooting! How would a 300 F2.8 work with an FTZ? Could I add a TC 1.4? If not, I loose the advantage of the crop sensor of the D500 and need to get longer glass, I think. I could get the 400 F2.8 and keep the 70-200! Would the 400 F2.8 work with a TC 2.0 IIIE or would the loss of quality be too much? I would love your opinions, pls!
Very interesting video, especially with Morton. Good to hear different points of view on how to use each Lens-in differing circumstances. Keep Well & Stay Safe. 👍🇬🇧
Thank you for your videos, Ricci. It’s so helpful to compare those Nikon lens. How do you think between 800mm F/5.6 FL with my Z9? Should I trade for 600mm Z? Please give me advice.
Thank You 🙏
Hi Ricci, nice video. I need your advice. Is Nikon z6ii worth buying in 2023 January, for wildlife photography or should i wait for z6iii of which i have no idea when is going to release.
Great video 👋 If you have to walk far away to get your photos weight is important. Heavy cameras, lenses, tripod and other stuff can make you tired and slow you down. As you are getting older weight of your equipment is becoming more and more important. I have Z9 but do wildlife with Z7II and 400/4,5 - a great compromise between weight, practicality and my age.
Well that was very illuminating - thank you. There is just one other question that you haven't answered (I don't think do anyway) THE PRICE for the 600 TC
Will we see the Z6III this year?
It's simply a must Nikon is not in the global camera sales charts with the exception of the Nikon Z9 which is large and heavy... and therefore urgently must have a camera for the middle class
Can I suggest a Z9 feature, pre capture raw would be really useful even at 15fps. High efficiency* or High Efficiency would be acceptable. Even 1/2 second.
Ricci, Nice comparison and made me feel comfortable that my Z800 quality is comparable to the 600. I had watched Morten's video already and can't lose any magic with his passion driven wildlife videos. A question: where do we buy the built-in filters for the 800mm Z? Any thoughts?
Nice lens. Little pricey for my pocket!!! I like your subtle hint of "there's a lot that can happen in 12 months"..... yeah you know that 200-600 is coming... why it's taking so long is baffling as it was one of the first lenses on the road map. One more I'm waiting for is that 135mm, that will be a cracker. I had an old d5000 coupled with a FF85mm and that produced some really nice pics. Again nice video, very honest and informative 👍 👌
Ricci AND Morton in the same video. BONUS! I've cancelled my order for the new 800 pf (never been happier about supply chain delays) and have ordered one of these new 600mm beauties. More lens than I am photographer :) but am so looking forward to getting it in hand on my Z9. I became addicted to a built in TC with my 180 to 400, so having one on the 600 is a big selling point for me on this lens. Thanks as always for your great video content, sir.
Because we mainly see you here on YT when new gems appear I hope this was a hint for a new product (body?) coming soon :) I vote for a Z7iii and wouldn`t reject the 1.2/85mm to come along with it 😁
I have the Z428 TC, it is very a versatile lens and can cater for a lot of situations. I have sold my F640 and was waiting for the new Z640, but after I got the Z428TC and used for a while, I really think twice that do I need the new Z640, maybe not now till some desperate situation pops up to give me a compulsory reason to consider it. :p Having say that, the Z640TC looks very cool!
I own a Nikon 600mm f/4 VR telephoto lens, the truth is the quality is very good even with the x1.4 converter, I'm sure this much lighter will be fantastic, I use it with my Reflex D4s and D5 cameras, just thinking that this is cvasi 2kg lighter makes me long teeth,. I find the option of a backpack interesting, but I think a rigid suitcase is necessary. Best regards.
Out of curiosity WHY does Nikon NOT have arca feet on their long lenses? Is it a patent thing or something? The arca foot is the first thing EVERY person does with a lens this size. Unless there is some logistical reason it just seems like Nikon is being obstinate.
As always… outstandingly informative.!
Before I purchase any Nikon lens, I ALWAYS seek your evaluation. You are consistently SPOT-ON.
@Ricci Talks
Would it be possible to get the grip and either the 400 or 600, or even 100-400 and put together a short clip demoing its advantages.
I've been singing the Z9s many praises in videoland and having your video is going to be a faster ref than me getting the grip.
Nikon have a great video tool and some stunning wildlife lenses on stream.
They just need to knock on more doors as some of my colleagues haven't realised just what a package it was.
Hopefully Nikon opens another plant
In tidays video!
We have not seen you for a year!
How does a built-in teleconverter work, mechanically? Is it similar to a zoom in that glass moves forward/backward?
Morten will have to trade his 600 FL for the one
Thank you for your insight. Both the 600 and 400 look like wonderful lenses. The professionals must be excited. Unfortunately, I am just an amateur. The cost and weight of these lenses alongside the bulk of a Z9 steers me away. I am currently holding a Z6ii, 24-120, 100-400 along with a D500, 500pf. Love the Z platform, but the cost and bulk of updating the D500,500pf combo is too steep. The A1, 200-600 is getting closer to the top of my list.
I had the 300mm 2.8 / with a 2x converter as my primary lens for wildlife photography. I have a bad back and walking around with it would kill me. I needed something lighter, and unfortunately the 500 f5.6 was the only option in my budget. Some day I hope to be able to afford one of those beauties you previewed.
Thanks. And what do you think of the combo Z800 mm + Z400 F4.5. Is it a good option for you?
Ricci - it feels like there is an opportunity to bring Morten to Africa on Safari and testing that kit on our wildlife!
Now imagine that Morten documentary...
Ricci, first of all, great video. That Hawk, with which AF did you used for your Z9.😀
Thank you Ricci -- I have replacement feet from Zenelli for my 400 and 800 and so will move the one from the 800 to the 600 when I swap them. We simply cannot source the 46mm CPL in the UK.
I am interested to see your detailed testing, with Morton. Nice overview and very nice shots.
Hello, are you preparing a video about the new firmware 3.0 for the Z9 ? That should be very useful for a lot of people I believe ! Thank you !