Install Vance & Hines Short Shots Staggered Exhaust on a Harley-Davidson | Sound Comparison
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- Video-In this completely free DIY video we show you how to install Vance & Hines Shortshots Staggered exhaust on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle. We used a 2016 Harley Dyna Low Rider S (CVO) for this project. However, it will be very similar regardless of what year and model Harley you're putting them on. These pipes come in black or chrome.
We also give you a "before & after" sound comparison between the restricted stock Harley exhaust and the V&H Shortshots. You'll want to wear headphones to get a true sense of the sound difference.
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Put these on my Low Rider S today and never looked at the instructions just watched your video! Becoming a Patreon member today because of your awesome videos!!
The multiple sound comparisons are a nice touch.
I've never wrenched on a bike really, ever. This video enabled me to install the big radius pipes on my '17 FXDB without any real issues. Took a little trial and error to figure the best clamp configuration but it got me across the finish line. Thx fellas! I feel a much greater pride in ownership having done it myself.
Awesome!!!!!! Thanks for sharing
Huge thanks for an extremely helpful video! The most annoying part of the install is the nut plates! Tip: Before bringing the pipe to the bike,cut a small length of thin cardboard (like the back of notepad thin) and place that at the base of the bracket you are going to slide the nut plates into. Cut another for the rear (pipe side) of the bracket. Now slide the nut plate in and line holes up with slot in bracket. Bring the pipe to bike and after loosely installing the head pipe, you can easily install the bolts into the nut plate because it won't move!!!
Installed my V&H short shots and I love em! Great video sir.
My recently-acquired 2010 FXDWG came with the blacked V&H Shortshot staggereds. They are a really quality product. They fit beautiffuly and sound nice, if a bit on the loud side. I intend to add some baffles later on. This is an excellent video, especially the part about installing the O2 sensors, which has to be done carefully. Thanks, especially for the sound comparison.
I have Vance N Hines Short short staggered and I love them
I am seriously considering installing short shots on my Street Bob. This video will help me a lot. Thanks for posting it. Just subscribed.
Super glad the video is helpful Larry.
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Thanks so much for the great video fitted short shots to my 2016 dyna wide glide following your instructions....flawless..Thanks again
Glad it helped
Sounds good MAN! got my 2015 wide-glide stage 1'd, bigger free flowin air box and ECM to put more fuel into cylinders, just bought the short-shots will probably have'em on by Friday, can hardly wait. Thunder-Bay custom cycles in Tampa does GR8 work.
small point buy THANK you for mentioning the nut sizes, I was able to line up my tools in advance, took the guesswork out
You are most welcome Jake. Glad to help!
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Just found what I'm looking for 👍🏾🏍! Absolutely super helpful channel! Thanks a lot ! Greetings from Tokyo 🗼🎌
That's awesome! Glad you found what you are looking for. Happy we could help out. Shout out to Tokyo!
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@@RyanUrlacher Do I have to get a fuel pack or can I just run the pipes out the box
Awesome! Have the VH FuelPak3 and short shots ready for me to install. Nice to see some good, "how to videos", on installing both.
Right on Joe. Glad you liked the video. Enjoy those Vance and Hines products.
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Beau travail! propre et sans bavure!
Thanks guys! Great video. Appreciate you saving us time and money!!!
Another EXCELLENT video. Thank you.
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Just bought this system for my 2011 Fat Bob. Went to dealership for an estimate of installation costs and they said about $1,000 which included a tuner of their choosing. I just walked out and sort of gave up on the idea of a full exhaust system and was going to settle on using slip ons instead. Just watched this video about 10 times, and I think I can do it myself. I don't have any experience with motorcycle repair or alterations, but I'm gonna try. Thanks for the great video and easy instructions.
Right on Todd! You can do it bro. Have fun wrenching on your own bike.
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Ryan Urlacher just installed it. Took me about 2.5 hours total with the tuning after. Considering I had no prior experience with anything, I'm fairly impressed with myself. Thanks again for the super informative video, it was very helpful for me.
Thanks for making this video it is helpful.
This video is 100 percent spot on!! Thanks!!!
Thanks for the shout out Chris!!
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Ordered mine for my 2021 Breakout
Thanks for the sound comparison at the end! I'm in the process of trying to buy one of these with the short shots, sounds amazing! Goes great with my future custom Dyna that looks like it's the Spawn of Satan! LOL. Wicked awesome looking bike.
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Love the video. Was it really tough work to thread the header flanges on? Finding it pretty hard to turn. Thanks
Can you guys make a video on how to install those pipes on a 2018 sport glide
Great video, thanks!
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed it.
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I love The Harley dyna 88 cubic inches.
Hell yeah! Installing mine next week. Just ordered the parts. I got the pipes and FuelPak, but do I need a air filter or can I run stock for the moment?
You can run stock until you get a stage 1 air cleaner. You can program the FP3 for that.
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Great video, helped me get my short shots onto my 17 low rider s. I had a problem with rear o2 sensor being too short to reach the pipe. Did you guys run into this problem?
Glad to help! No we didn't run into the issue on the 2016. We've found these specialty bikes to be different from year to year even though they are the same model.
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Do you have a video on how to change the heat shields on an 08 Dyna without taking the pipes off ?
Hey Ryan,
Just got your video for the DIY handlebar with extended cables. It's a real help.
Any links or suggestions to companies that offer extended wiring/cable kits for an '87 FXLR?
Thnx man,
Joe C
Joe, we use Burly Brand wire/cable kits for 95% of our jobs. We use Magnum Shielding for the custom stuff (like the lowrider s). www.burlybrand.com/category/7/cable-kits or www.magnumshielding.com/
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Do the pipes come with new gaskets? Going to put these on my Low Rider S! Thanks for the great videos as always!
Yes, they came with new gaskets.
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I am buying a pair of Vance and Hines big shots, for my 2012 Harley Deluxe. The stock pipes have Vance and Hines slip on mufflers now. Do I still need the Fuel pack 3 tuner?
I need to replace one of the heat shields on my V&H short shots. How do they come off? I saw 3 screws on what essentially look liked hose clamps. I thought that's what was holding the shield, but nope! 🤣
Great content. Thanks
Thanks for the shout out
I have a stage 1download on my ‘10 FXDC can I put the short shots on without a stage 2 download?
I really like this video. I have a question, do you use FuelPak for Slip-on exhaust?
You sure can. We do.
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I have short shots on a 2017 Street Bob. I like the sound of them but the performance is terrible. Do you have any suggestions? I'm on the fence. Not sure to go with cams and keep the pipes or just get a different exhaust.
Hey I gotta ‘18 street bob. (M8). After installing these the bike now has wide open throttle and check engine.
Just wondering what your opinion is ?
I want to take the Baffles out doesn't seem loud as I thought it would on a 2007 Sportster 1200cc
Thank you very much for the tips🇸🇪
U betcha
Love that bike, Ryan. I'm thinking about buying one for myself right now, but I'm a little hesitant with the rumor of the M8 trickling down to the Dynas. Also, I'm totally digging the podcast. Subscribed to both. Keep up the good work. In any event, a couple of questions. First, any problems with LEOs taking issue with the volume of the V&H pipes (I'm sure you don't have problems with that, but I might in Seattle)? Second, what make/model is that seat? I like the way it looks and the stock seat on the FXDLS has got to go. Third, I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam. What are your thoughts on the forward controls? Sorry for the long message. Thanks for the great content.
Issues with the loudness of the pipes? Not really, but in Eastern WA LEO's do not make that an issue. But then again we also do not have to certify our cars every two years like in a few Westside Counties and in Spokane. The seat, it is a Mustang seat. Great seats and very comfortable. The stock seat was just a bit to forward for me so I replaced it when I got the bike and now Ryan owns it. I liked the stock bars, but Ryan liked these so he changed them. A really good addition I must say. As far as the motor, this motor is a tank.....at least in my opinion. Yes the M8 is trickling down, but the 16-17 years are the only years for this bike. So if you want the S model which has the Screaming Eagle motor in it you need to buy it now. HD has said they will not do a Low Rider S for 2018. Maybe another Dyna will get the S treatment in 18, but who knows at this point. RK
Will these fit 2016 softail breakout. It says no but I do see them on breakouts. Just don't know which model# I should buy for my breakout
Is that considered standard baffle for tuning purposes?
Have a 2016 Harley Fat Boy S - and am struggling to figure out how to get off the stock mounting bracket for the original pipes off the bike? Took off the two bottom bolts.but it seems like it's not going to be easy to take off and I need to get the rear footage off as well.
Do these have enough back pressure for the m8? I've read some comments online that say they are not good for the m8.
short shots vs big radius vs mini grenade?
which one is best?
Sounds way better
Thanks for your awesome video. I am about to buy 2018 Harley Davidson Sofitel slim and Is this the pipe do you recommend ? How would you compare between V&H and Bassani? Cheers, Matthew from S. Korea
We are big fans of V&H around here. We like Bassani as well. We have used their header. If it was me, I;d go with V&H.
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Thee Lowrider S. Yes.
Scribed! This video is awesome!
Thank you. Glad to have ya!
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Hey buddy, new to the bike world but I'm really excited to get my first bike. 2021 Street Bob 114. If i did the exhaust myself with your tuner would it void my warranty? Harley is so expensive for upgrades and especially since my son and I could do it. And if it wouldn't void my warranty how much is that tuner and could you possibly give me a link to a website to get tuner and choose my exhaust and purchase it myself and have it shipped to me? I really want the short shots that come right out of the block and straight to the ground.. I know that's a lot of questions and I apologize but I just stumbled upon this channel and I can honestly say I will never be without a Harley-Davidson as long as I live I'm 41 so I'm trying to learn as much as possible thanks for the video and I appreciate any help you can give me have a blessed day!
Hi Ryan, is Bugslide available to purchase outside of the US?
Are the flanges supposed to flush against the heads or is a small gap ok?
Is there packing inside the Vance & Hines Short Shots?
Will these pipes fit on a Softail with floorboards?
Hello! Are there any bracket sizes? (big black). I have such pipes, but there is no bracket ... Can you help? To give the sizes, I will make it, since it is not for sale with us.
In the video, starting from around 4:12 there appear to be two empty holes in the transmission casing slightly below the cover which has "SIX SPEED" written on it. What are those holes for?
Those are where the bracket mounts that holds the exhaust on.
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@RyanUrlacher - do these pipes get delivered with what appears to be rust inside them? Or should these be chrome, inside and out? I understand from V&H that this is just from the oils of production and it gets burnt off when you ride... is that true or did I receive a bad pair?
Never had rust. I'd have to see pictures to truly evaluate what you have there.
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Hi guys. I love your videos. Thanks for them. I purchased a 2nd hand 2009 Iron 883 with the Short Shots exhaust, the two dog bone bars and the support bracket, as part of the purchase, but no bolts for any of it. Please tell me what I can do to complete the install. I don’t like the stock exhaust that came with the bike.
We recommend contacting Vance and Hines and see if you can purchase the bolt kit for the install. vanceandhines.com/contact/
Is that a T-40 for the front forward controls remove?
Hey Ryan... I just picked up a 2012 Switchback that had these pipes installed by the previous owner. How can I tell if it has the FP3 installed? Also, if it's not installed am I hurting anything riding it? It sound great and seems to run great with a little crackle n pop off throttle. Thanks!
Pop of the cover near the fuse block. You should see it there. If there isn't one, the owner probably had a stage 1 flash loaded from a HD dealer. The crackle and pop isn't uncommon.
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Is there a reason a bolt was missing on the bottom right of the transmission
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I really want a set of big radius on my fxdb. But thinking it might be a tad bit too loud now haha.
They aare definitely loud!
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Great video! I just ordered my V&H ShortShots but I was advised if I used FP3 my warranty will get void, does it really need to be tuned or can it run with just the stocks for now? Do you have an idea of how much it will cost to tune it at a HD Dealer?. Brand new Forty Eight Sporty - First bike ever. I will appreciate your feedback!
You should retune any time you make a change to intake or exhaust. Having your bike flashed at a dealer will most likely cost around $200.
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use correct cirlip flat nosed pliers when taking them off , so there not damaged
I've got a 2000 superglide with short shots. If I take the baffles our will the carbie need rejetting? Cheers
Potentially, if you want it tuned perfectly.
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11:10 Regarding Oxygen sensor. I have 2017 FXDB Street Bob and front O2 sensor size is 18mm and the pipe has 12mm thread size and I can't fit my short shots to my Street Bob for that reason. Any advise ?
So the short shot comes with new seals or would I need to purchase separately, I'm putting them on 17 wide glide
You'll need to buy new ones if you wan them.
I've been looking everywhere for a video on how to install pipes on a 2015 xl1200c. I like the straightshot sound but it's a toss up between those and shorties or ground pounders. Any advice or help?
It comes down to look and function. Choose the ones you think sound and look the best.
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I have short shots on an 04 carbureted fat boy. But the bike used with the exhaust on it. On or during Decel it sounds sloppy or wet for lack of a better description. Wondering if that’s typical for Vance and Hines, I called them and they never got back to me I’d like to figure out stuff myself I know I could just bring it somewhere, any help from anyone would be appreciated thanks
I bought an exhaust, but it does not have a hole for a lambda umbrella, what should I do?
I put some on my bike and the flanges aren't sitting flush. I've read things. Is this normal?
Watched this video a few times over the last couple weeks. My ShortShots got in today and I just installed them on my 16 Street bob. The videos of these pipes do not do it justice(not your video, any video in general) for the amazing difference in sound. I see an increase in gas stops in my near future now.
Would you recommend these pipes on a '16 softail s? Is there that much improvement from the stock?
We like them on the lowrider s. Great sound and opened up the motor. It comes down to personal preference.
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If you use an aftermarket tuner isn't that gonna void the factory warranty ?
Aren't these a little restrictive for the fdxls 110?? I get that sound is super important, but when you change your exhaust, power should be a concern too. These actually lower your power if anything. They do look sweet though.
I have the same bike, debating what pipe to go with, probably TBR or Bassani 2 into 1..
They are pretty much a straight pipe. The baffles are perforated metal and are straight pass through. Definitely less restrictive than stock.
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First off let me say this video is awesome! Paper instructions suck! I have a cobra speedsters 909 for my 16 LowRider. Question... will the flange sit all the way against the head?
Also, My bike only has 5000 miles so I was trying to reuse the old exhaust gasket. Maybe I need a new gasket?
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Question about the Fuelpack3 : Once you flashed your bike , the fp3 must be on the bike or you can disconnect it?
Once flashed you can remove it from the bike
I think im sold on these pipes going to throw them on my sportster.
I have 883 iron and mine are coming today so excited
I have an 883 also I’m gonna order mine over the winter and be ready for Spring
Ryan if you are using a fuel management system like the FP3 do you have to reinstall o2 sensors?
The FP3 uses your stock 12mm O2 sensors. Good to go. Just hook it up and start tuning. That's why we brought it right to our very own store. There's also a complete tutorial video on our product page of the FP3 and further info ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust
I have the same bike. What torque spec is the bolt to the flange and the transmission bolts to hold the bracket
I don't know off the top of my head. I'd have to steer you toward the shop manual. Sorry
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so what are the o2 sensor plugs for. when is it preferable to use the plugs rather then reinstall the existing o2 sensors ?
It depends on the ECM has. Reinstall the O2 sensors if your bike has them.
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I just purchased a set of these. Can’t wait to get them installed. The rear O2 sensor was cross threaded at the factory, so now unless Harley honors their screw up then I’ve got to purchase another one. I am wondering why no thread paste was used either for easy removal. I know paste isn’t the correct word, I just can’t think of it right now. What are the other links in which you mentioned in the video?
No need on thread lock for this project. Use it if you like. All the links are in the description below the video Paul.
Actually the word I was looking for was Anti Seize..The rear 02 sensor was galled and the threads can't be used any more. I did show the Harley shop where I purchased the bike to see if they can warranty it out to include the stock exhaust if I ever wanted to go back. Plus i don't have any spare plugs for any fuel management on my dyna Street Bob??
So Ryan, What pipes are you recommending for 2016 FLHXS? With Performance foremost and sound secondary. We do a lot of rides long distance often 2 up... Thanks!
Definitely upgrade your head pipes to the V&H Power Duals or cut out your cats. The OS 450 slip ons have great back pressure and a low deep rumble. The slips ons with the perforated metal baffles sound good, but don't have as much back pressure. Based on what you said above, I would suggest the Power Duals and OS 450s. Check out our V&H products at: shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust
Ryan Urlacher , thanks for the quick reply. I'll continue watching your videos and being a member, thank you. I will do some research on your suggestions and let you know or send you a picture on how it all turned out.
Hello Ryan I Got a 2018 fatboy 107 looking on put some Vance&Hanes pipes what else you recommend to get a big good loud and torque performance on this bike
SWEEEET. You got put this on after you put pipes for sure. We run these and we have them in stock. Scroll to the bottom for the tutorial video ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
these are the pipes I'll be getting for my 2016 street bob, as far as the air intake upgrade I was planning on getting the arlen ness big sucker, just not sure what the difference is between a stage 1 and stage 2 air intake. any suggestions?
Stage one intake is really anything that opens up and lets the engine breath better than stock.
Are these pipe EPA complaint in Texas? Will the void or harm the Hawg factory warranty?
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Hey there I was just wondering in what scenario would I need an o2 sensor plug??
On older bikes, without O2 sensors
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Ryan Urlacher ah okay! One last question for you if you don’t mind. I just bought these pipes for my 2017 Street bob, now at the moment I have a stock air filter if I put these pipes on am I still gonna need an FP3? Or should I be okay without it for a little while? I only ask because I don’t have the money to buy the fp3 right at the moment.
Don't the flange nuts need to be torqued down?
Have these on my fatboy. Love them
sweet
I have a 2015 sportster 1200 48 with stock pipes.I just bought the bike from the dealer.I wanted them to add the vance and hines short shots before takeing the bike.They Didn't want to.They said they would have to put it on the dyna to tune i tand it would cost 400.00.And thats just for the dyna. They wanted 1,700.00 for the whole job with new breather..Crazy. What should i do.
I suggest doing it yourself. For the price of the dyno tune, you can by a Vance and Hines FuelPak 3. Check out our Vance and Hines products here: shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust We also have videos to help you do the install yourself. www.lawabidingbiker.com/videos/
Thanks for the quick response.
do you recommend Vance & Hines Shortshots Staggered Exhaust For Harley Davidson Street-XG750..pls advice
You bet, but expect a much louder exhaust sound.
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I have not been able to find any video to check the sound of these shortshots on XG750, although loads of videos available for V&H competition series..any reason for short shots being less popular?
my road glides heat shields are nasty covered in muck. any tips to clean it?
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This video is very helpful. Although there’s a caption to detached the other end of the sensor- simply instruct to detach the wire at the other end. Don’t give instructions to twist the wire before fitting because it will damage the internal wiring that will cost money.
Super glad the video was helpful!!
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Hey I enjoy your videos but if possible always use new exhaust or header gaskets! Stay safe and thx for your service!
Glad you like! YT. I can tell you from many years experience of using the gaskets over if they look good, no issues ever. But certainly, if a guy want to put new ones every time then rock on!! no worries.
Hello I had a stage 1 done to my 2013 dyna super glide and had it tuned after I got home I noticed two bolts missing on the transmission? Is this normal if not what size do I need?
No that's not normal, but we're not sure what size the bolts are. I'd take it back to where you had the work done.
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Do you know what the Torq specs are for the Head bolts on a 2013 sporty 1200c??
Cylinder headbolts 1st torque is 11-14 Nm or 96-120 in-lbs
cylinder headbolts final torque is 18-20 Nm or 13-15 ft-lbs Plus 90 degrees
Exhaust pipe bolt is 40-45 Nm or 30-33 ft-lbs
When he says removing that one screw will slide the entire baffle out,
it felt like, when Morpheus gives red and green pill :P hehehe :D :D :D
red and green?