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    THIS PLANE SHOOTS 127 POUNDS OF LEAD A SECOND | F-4E
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  • @chrisp3085
    @chrisp3085 Рік тому +700

    The afterburner creates too much pressure for the jet tube; therefore, the variable nozzle opens to relieve the pressure gains.

    • @igneousrock654
      @igneousrock654 Рік тому +66

      And if the nozzle didn’t expand, then there is potential for the fuel to flow back up into the engine and reignite, causing a compressor stall

    • @thepilotman5378
      @thepilotman5378 Рік тому +45

      @@igneousrock654 which is what the F-100 was susceptible to. The cockpit would fill up with smoke and the pilot wouldn't be able to see, and had no engine power

    • @thepilotman5378
      @thepilotman5378 Рік тому +34

      The afterburner also happens to have much greater efficiency at full opened position. Think of a rocket nozzle. It expands outwards. Another fun fact: the exhaust in burner (and most times mil) is actually at less static pressure than surrounding air. This is why visible shock diamonds form in afterburner, the atmosphere is collapsing the flow, and it bounces back out. If the nozzle got smaller instead, the engine would actually produce less thrust. And I don't know how long a Phantom can fly, but a F-16 pumps 200+ gallons per minute In a 3 inch hose straight into the engine lasting a glorious 16 minutes at burner (no external stores)

    • @norfcarolinadude8179
      @norfcarolinadude8179 Рік тому +14

      @@thepilotman5378 a thousand dollars a minute

    • @asiftalpur3758
      @asiftalpur3758 Рік тому +18

      @@norfcarolinadude8179 morbillion morbs an hour

  • @nikm5575
    @nikm5575 Рік тому +154

    "It cost $400,000 to fire this weapon for twelve seconds."

    • @ConnerV
      @ConnerV Рік тому +8

      AHahaha, oh my god, who touched sasha?

    • @Nottrules
      @Nottrules Рік тому +2

      It is roughly 129(using simple math) or 142 thousand dollars for twelve seconds of 4 BRRRT

    • @Big_.Sunlandia
      @Big_.Sunlandia Рік тому

      "a bullet of one of this costs 12$"

  • @braedynhoward3644
    @braedynhoward3644 Рік тому +375

    my dad was an f 18 pilot, and they flew hundreds of miles in one go. He said that they rarely use afterburner except in dogfights and special missions. They generally calculate the most efficient combination of altitude, throttle percentage, and distance to perform the mission properly. if they were flying far, they went to a certain altitude and had a certain throttle percentage to get the fastest speed possible with the lowest fuel consumption possible for each distance flown. It's a bunch of math basically. They rarely do full throttle, it drains fuel like crazy.
    On long trips over the ocean, they always had a reroute plan at any given position incase of an emergency or a storm. Basically they conserved a certain amount of fuel even if they could technically have a higher throttle to fly the full distance, in case they had a longer reroute distance (meaning they would need more fuel). I found it crazy that no matter what point they were over the ocean, they had a reroute plan.They also had a refueling plane fly with them.
    But in dogfight training and missions, they occasionally used afterburner.

    • @timberwolf27
      @timberwolf27 Рік тому +10

      hey like....how dangerous is a storm to a fighter jet, wouldnt it fair pretty well but just be bumpy as hell?

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 Рік тому +23

      @@timberwolf27 Good question. yes, there are a lot of storms (smaller storms) that fighter jets can fly either around, or over at certain altitudes. I'll have to ask him again, but I'm pretty sure they generally avoid storms and high amounts of rain if it can be helped. But yes, it would be very bumpy. The danger they have when trying to fly through or over a big, high storm, is not lightning or rain, but icing one their wings. My dad has had his wings begin iceing several times by flying over high storms or through a storm cloud, which if it continues to ice, becomes an emergency. And turbulence is the other issue, in strong storms planes don't do too well. I'll clarify with him though.

    • @Boeing_hitsquad
      @Boeing_hitsquad Рік тому +3

      @@timberwolf27 fighters don't have De-icing equipment and so storms are avoided because of it.

    • @Salesman9001
      @Salesman9001 Рік тому +15

      I once spectated F18 take off with afterburner, turn around and go supersonic over runway and shortly after request landing permission as he was running low on fuel. Total flight time was less than 20 minutes.. those afterburners sure burn fuel like crazy

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 Рік тому +9

      @@Salesman9001 Yeah they burn fuel at insane rates. Most of the time they don't even use full throttle (I mean full throttle no afterburner). It's for going really fast for short periods of time, air to air and air to ground combat, and air shows lol.

  • @Nukleonaudio
    @Nukleonaudio Рік тому +179

    19:30 the reason the nozzle expands is because rocket engines are most efficient when the working gas is expanded to ambient pressure through the nozzle. An afterburner is basically a rocket stage of the jet engine.

    • @ralijerisonnaly6944
      @ralijerisonnaly6944 Рік тому +8

      as s student in aerospace i agree with what you say: to resume it with a compressible flow (it's the case in supersonic flow) the more the nozzle have a bigger diameter the faster is the gaz at the exit, this reduce the pressure of the flow at the end but watch to not decompress under the ambient prussure otherwise the shockwave might enter the nozzle and destroy it

    • @joshuameyer-fortner2304
      @joshuameyer-fortner2304 Рік тому +2

      @@ralijerisonnaly6944 pressure is increased in a divergent duct. You are incorrect. Stop lying on the internet.

    • @ralijerisonnaly6944
      @ralijerisonnaly6944 Рік тому +5

      @@joshuameyer-fortner2304 that true for incompressible flow not compressible not lying sir 😁

    • @panelak6835
      @panelak6835 Рік тому

      @@joshuameyer-fortner2304 it is not about preasure, bud speed. Im also student of math and fyzics si trust at least to me

  • @alexvolute7454
    @alexvolute7454 Рік тому +416

    The A-10 with gunpods has a burst mass of about 67kg/s

    • @voidex136
      @voidex136 Рік тому +7

      Did he remove weapon accuracy module for that video? Without it it will be a wall of bullets

    • @lanfrancoadreani9212
      @lanfrancoadreani9212 Рік тому +146

      This Is the averange Weight of a Bulgaria woman. It shoots a Bulgarian woman per second

    • @dylanthompson6186
      @dylanthompson6186 Рік тому +31

      @@lanfrancoadreani9212 hahahahah idk why but this has me fucking giggling

    • @alanhoff89
      @alanhoff89 Рік тому +25

      A 3yrs old avg American kiddo per second

    • @ivanthegod49
      @ivanthegod49 Рік тому +7

      @@alanhoff89 you got 3 year olds with the weight of 67kg's????? im 20 and I'm not even 60

  • @curquhart5637
    @curquhart5637 Рік тому +115

    The Yak-38 9.3 Prem with the gun pods has a total on 99.05KG per second burst.
    I tested it in game. Built in gun has 160 rounds, so I got the 4 gun pods and selected them alone. After a few tries I got the ammot to exactly 640 rounds for all 4 of them.
    I then selected all guns and mag dumped it all and sure enough the all came to empty at the exact same time.
    For the record. That is 218.36Lbs/s.

    • @itsystryke
      @itsystryke Рік тому +5

      GOD

    • @nightcleaver8886
      @nightcleaver8886 Рік тому +1

      how do you get 99.05kg/s? stat card says 49.53kg/s with all 5 guns. if each gsh-23L outputs 9.91kg/s as the stat card says with only one gsh-23L installed, that woulkd make 9.91kg x 5 guns = 49.55kg/s

    • @curquhart5637
      @curquhart5637 Рік тому

      @@nightcleaver8886 I will recalculate and get back too you

    • @curquhart5637
      @curquhart5637 Рік тому

      @@nightcleaver8886 The Yak isnt in the tech tree at the moment. Is that just me or am I stupid?

    • @nightcleaver8886
      @nightcleaver8886 Рік тому

      @@curquhart5637 I own the premium one so i see it still, i dont know if it's been removed from visibility but i dont think it has

  • @jasemo388
    @jasemo388 Рік тому +29

    Phly discussing nozzles: "Something, something, F4 nozzles, - something, producing more thrust."
    ...Phly also discussing nozzles at 13:02: "*Baaaaaaaaarp! Mmmm. - Mexican."

  • @aluminium1035
    @aluminium1035 Рік тому +59

    to whoever that guy that kept asking phly to use the f4e and the 4 gunpods, your persistence has paid off. hats off to that guy

  • @nicojokelin5547
    @nicojokelin5547 Рік тому +12

    17:13
    alot of air combat simulator players who played warthunder have said that the plane you see doesnt always align correctly with how the plane really is
    leading to situations like this where it looks like its way off but in reality it is not
    Sometimes u get hit even when the tracers from a SPAA are way off samesituation
    Remember its a feature not a bug
    You just need to morb him next time and you will be fine

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Рік тому +29

    19:20 you want to have an equal preassure inside the nozzle exit, than ambient to have the highest thrust.
    So with pumping more fuel etc, you have a higher expanding gas, and therefore more preassure at the nozzle end, than normal. Therefore you see (only at ground level) these shockwaves inside the afterburner-tail (witch should get fewer and further away, the higher you go).

  • @davisdeal5301
    @davisdeal5301 Рік тому +603

    Day 333: Of asking phly to play the dicker max because it’s 105 is basically cheating at is br and it can survive and they also moved it down to 3.7

    • @fypear
      @fypear Рік тому +12

      Never give up dude ✌🏻

    • @jackass6257
      @jackass6257 Рік тому +5

      Jesus i hate that thing

    • @andrewreil3938
      @andrewreil3938 Рік тому +2

      They what now

    • @Ziiphyr
      @Ziiphyr Рік тому

      YES, thou shall be done.

    • @blackwidowrsa
      @blackwidowrsa Рік тому +7

      Paper tank with one trick - easily killed by reserve and any plane. "Cheating." I suggest a good gaming chair.

  • @mhsbosco
    @mhsbosco Рік тому +32

    I agree with you about air RB man. I guess what you were trying to say is that it's too "arena-y". If the maps were larger enough to where the norm is that there are several separate engagements happening simultaneously, it would already alleviate things a lot. Besides being that much larger, if the terrains we had were more feature rich (e.g. canyons, mountain ranges, valleys) and had objectives like you said, air RB would completely resuscitate for me. For me, something like what many DCS World servers do would be optimal. A variety of SAM sites, infrastructure targets, convoys, ground battles, etc. Similar to what air SB is currently, but overhauled towards that DCS sorta direction. Or maybe have air RB be the current air SB with the exception of forcing full real controls, then overhaul air SB to go towards what I suggested. I'm just kinda brainstorming at this point, but y'all get the idea.

    • @trinalgalaxy5943
      @trinalgalaxy5943 Рік тому +3

      as it stands, air RB just ends up being the same rush and die or loiter and do nothing irregardless of which map your on. It might help if they added the ground RB points system. It really shows how old that game mode is... and not in a way that encourages good and interesting gameplay.

    • @LugborG
      @LugborG Рік тому +3

      Ground RB could stand to have a few new game modes too. Maybe an asymmetrical point defense, where one team gets more spawns but have to assault a defensible position, or a convoy mode where they have to protect a supply convoy from incoming attack.
      Give bombers a supply drop loadout so they can make small resupply zones that aren’t dependent on having the capture points. Give the radar reliant AA platforms a radar station to link up with, that the enemy can target. Make the artillery a physical target on the map that you can destroy to temporarily disable.

    • @UchihaMadaraGr
      @UchihaMadaraGr Рік тому +1

      Well, we're talking in forum about a marker-less RB (at least for jets) and people getting mad. The thing is if they give an event like that it will be for the best.

    • @mhsbosco
      @mhsbosco Рік тому +1

      @@UchihaMadaraGr marker-less RB would be such a nice step in the right direction, I wonder what the logic is behind disliking the idea

    • @UchihaMadaraGr
      @UchihaMadaraGr Рік тому +1

      @@mhsbosco The logic of people disliking the idea is mostly based around that they don't like the "spot the dot". However, when we talk about modern jets with radar is not the case.
      Radar equipped planes need different things for their gameplay not to be repetitive and boring .
      Yet, most of those people refer to props or early jets without radar gameplay while you're telling them that the ideas and changes people propose are for radar equipped jets in higher tiers.
      Go in WT forum, Realistic battles discussion> Air Battles>Air RB experience has become unbearable ... Read and tell your opinion if you like. But since you are asking what's their logic, go see for yourself... It's interesting.

  • @mailliwenots
    @mailliwenots Рік тому +16

    I think air rb could be improved by having markers at long distances but once you close with in 5km markers dissappear. That way dog fights would be more like ground rb.

    • @machadoross
      @machadoross Рік тому

      Honestly that's a great idea!

    • @Jebotito
      @Jebotito Рік тому

      10km would be better. Or even 15km. 5km at toptier is like 5m

    • @paprikallama8727
      @paprikallama8727 Рік тому +1

      I think that air rb, maybe with smaller maps and with only team markers would be good

    • @RAPER_-jb7po
      @RAPER_-jb7po Рік тому +2

      @@paprikallama8727 smaller maps ? That defeats the purpose of fox 1 and fox 3 tho.. plus the aircrafts that benefit from longer ranges would get clapped

    • @paprikallama8727
      @paprikallama8727 Рік тому +1

      @@RAPER_-jb7po fair enough guess I was thinking of lower tier aircraft and trying to make it easier for them to find each other

  • @Stormcrow_1
    @Stormcrow_1 Рік тому +33

    Phly, the nozzles have to expand due to the increase volume of gases when afterburning.

  • @munrolouis5012
    @munrolouis5012 Рік тому +5

    20:01 Ideally it could last for around 8 minutes with full afterburner, though they rarely used the afterburner for more than 5-6 minutes. this was one, to conserve fuel and 2, to reduce the risk of melting the nozzle flaps. Afterburners usually burn at 1200 degrees C, and the engines were made out of Nickel aluminide which has a melt temp of 1390 degrees C. So in order to not melt, or severely damage the engines, they had to be cooled off. it would take around 8-8 1/2 minutes to fully melt and destroy the engine which indicates the 8 minute burn time. Keep up the amazing videos Phly!

  • @fireflame9964
    @fireflame9964 Рік тому +106

    Hey phly, your probably not going to see this but I just wanted to say, I love your content and just your personality and your ability to stay positive, I’ve only been watching you for about a year but I just don’t get bored of any of your vids, keep up the good content :))

  • @craigwilson9946
    @craigwilson9946 Рік тому +11

    Yes!! We need more terrain in air rb. Would love more arcade style maps with large mountain ranges or canyons etc

  • @leonardosimunovic5658
    @leonardosimunovic5658 Рік тому +33

    Hey Phly, I've been a loyal viewer since about 2016/17 I must admit that I have made a great sin: I haven't watched you in over a year cause I got ultra fed up with Warthunder. I've come back to your videos now and I have to say - your quality is still extremely consistent even after all these years. You are truly amazing and I wish only the best to your loved ones and your dogs. Hope your house didn't have any more hail problems since last I saw you lol.

    • @p4nzerfaust960
      @p4nzerfaust960 Рік тому

      He doesnt care lol

    • @JohnSmith-oh9ux
      @JohnSmith-oh9ux Рік тому

      LMAO, 9 out 10 of viewers don't play WT yet watch his content

    • @Deathwing21
      @Deathwing21 Рік тому +1

      He is a father now in case you dont know

    • @leonardosimunovic5658
      @leonardosimunovic5658 Рік тому +1

      @@Deathwing21 That's amazing! No i didn't know thx for telling me

  • @BadTactics101
    @BadTactics101 Рік тому +3

    The screaming missiles get me every damn time. Love it!

  • @lilbigmorgan
    @lilbigmorgan Рік тому +4

    At slower speeds the heat from the afterburner would increase engine temperatures, but as you go faster with a higher fuel flow through the engines you would be cooling the engine. At a certain point if you go too fast the air resistance would begin to generate heat, countering afterburner cooling. Which is why ramjets for Mach 4 and higher are used in aircraft for those speeds.
    I don't have all the information present so I might be wrong on the Mach numbers.

  • @eddiemaciejewski9445
    @eddiemaciejewski9445 Рік тому +5

    Third day of playing WT because of your videos. Moving thru the American tech tree nicely. The 105 sherman is very fun. Been having a good time at low BR so far:)

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому +2

      Suffering begins soon. I began optimistic like you, but at now at 6.0 US, I experience true pain. I cant describe how badly the 76 shermans are compared to german vehicles at this tier. (Germany is the other other nation I have gotten this high in)

    • @eddiemaciejewski9445
      @eddiemaciejewski9445 Рік тому

      @@whoknows8864 But..... gib free Abrams....

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому +1

      @@eddiemaciejewski9445 The freebrams is the sole reason I have made it so far in the US tech tree.

    • @sleepyrasta14820
      @sleepyrasta14820 Рік тому +1

      I only play low rank now high rank is just full of campers and spawn killlers and at 3000+ repair cost per vehicle nah fuck that lol it isn't any fun.

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому +1

      @@sleepyrasta14820 What, you don't like losing 10k silver lions for every match you play when you have a positive k/d?

  • @jtrec7157
    @jtrec7157 Рік тому +71

    Love the content Phly, keep it up.
    Combo time, non premium P61 black widow and m4a2.
    Attempt 69 (nice)

  • @svofanatic3642
    @svofanatic3642 Рік тому +2

    How much fuel does an F-4 burn per hour?
    F-4 Phantom Fun Fact: Typical mission fuel load: 16,000 lbs. Fuel consumption in full afterburner: 120,000 lbs per hour.
    8 mins But that's probably not taking into account of external tanks

  • @1COMIXMAN
    @1COMIXMAN Рік тому +1

    From what I understand from all the shows I've seen the gatlin pods were originally because the first f4's didn't have guns just missiles and couldn't close in dogfight. In later years and new versions with internal guns the pods were sometimes added with spray and pray unguided rocket pods for personnel ground attack close in support. They would mix a few rocket/gun planes in with a squadron of planes dropping alot of napalm.if it was decided napalm was not needed they sent the gunships in. My dad used to see f4s zip overhead when he was in the navy in vietnam. He was on a flat bottomed lst that went up the saigon to deliver tanks, trucks,suplies anything they could carry. Even bombs of napalm and agent orange barrels.

  • @andrewvazzana383
    @andrewvazzana383 Рік тому +3

    As my grandpa always said never bring a gun to a missile fight unless you have a lot of gun

  • @duncanmcgee13
    @duncanmcgee13 Рік тому +8

    I've had a few maps on Air RB that have canyons/mountains that made dogfights interesting

    • @Illiterate243
      @Illiterate243 Рік тому

      Mountains are so sick for dog fighting in props

    • @benharder7816
      @benharder7816 Рік тому

      Bourbon Island is the best example I can think of. That map feels like an Arcade map.

  • @mr.cabbagekale5611
    @mr.cabbagekale5611 Рік тому +45

    "Day 212: Phly, you should play the Hawl III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced
    Two soldiers are always better!"
    -Leonardo Sousa

    • @ethanbookter7829
      @ethanbookter7829 Рік тому

      One day, this will happen my friend.

    • @JosephStalin-yk2hd
      @JosephStalin-yk2hd Рік тому

      PHLY, just.. DO IT!!

    • @sleepyrasta14820
      @sleepyrasta14820 Рік тому

      The BB 1 is a good rank one plane for USSR

    • @DerNiker
      @DerNiker Рік тому +1

      When Phly said thank you to the guy who suggested this videos idea, it hurt. I immediately remembered our friend here who tries to make his dream come. I hope that he will see it now and finally play the Hawk.

    • @tkestrel2100
      @tkestrel2100 Рік тому

      @@DerNiker same..... mean i want this to be come a reality so bad

  • @biggieyt6407
    @biggieyt6407 Рік тому +2

    War Thunder needs a guns only gamemode for top tier. Good old dogfighting in 11.0 with no missiles would be so much fun.

    • @machadoross
      @machadoross Рік тому

      The mld would destroy everything until the f14 gets here. I'd still be down for it though

  • @davinci69
    @davinci69 Рік тому +2

    19:12 The nozzle area is increased during afterburner operation to limit the upstream effects on the engine. So basically it doesnt get bigger but rather creates more internal surface. Hope that helped :)

  • @bobkile9734
    @bobkile9734 Рік тому +5

    3:01
    The gun pod was originally made and installed on the F-4 because the F-4 didn’t have a gun. Combine this with unreliable 1st generation missiles and you end up with pilots in perfect shooting positions and no weapons to shoot with. I guess someone decided, just 1 gun? Naw mate, ALL THE GUNS.

    • @BaronBoar
      @BaronBoar Рік тому +1

      Well wouldn't it also be used for mowing? You know... The grass? Yeah let's just say grass.

    • @bobkile9734
      @bobkile9734 Рік тому +1

      YEEEAAAH MOW ALLL THE THIIIINGS!!!!

    • @robkitchen5344
      @robkitchen5344 Рік тому

      Only because they were forced to visibly identify that they were enemy fighters instead of firing their sparrows from miles away and allowing them to do what their intended weapons were designed to do.....needlessly costing the lives of many American air crews..... So a few unplanned civilian planes get shot down.... That has to be expected when flying into war zones......

  • @nathancroud3730
    @nathancroud3730 Рік тому +1

    Aerospace student here. At full afterburner, pressure in a converging nozzle is bottlenecked, since the total throat area decreases, supersonic flow may even be slowed to subsonic. Variable nozzles allow for optimal mass flow rate, as supersonic flow, as afterburning turbofans and turbojets often are, requires a converging-diverging nozzle in order to remain supersonic. TL;DR: it allows air to flow faster through the nozzle and increases thrust

  • @awzozomiscool
    @awzozomiscool Рік тому +1

    i love when phly plays air rb because he talks so much gibberish when he isnt fighting, its amazing.

  • @g3arjammer837
    @g3arjammer837 Рік тому +7

    Hey he did it

  • @schrotacular
    @schrotacular Рік тому +1

    Supersonic flow can increase velocity through an expanding nozzle (think rocket bell or fighter jet engine in afterburner) where as subsonic flow increases velocity through a reducing nozzle (fighter jet engine at full military power). Which is why you see the nozzle get smaller until flow reaches critical speed (speed of sound), where the nozzle opens.

  • @AbsintheMindMatt
    @AbsintheMindMatt Рік тому +1

    The backround synthwave jam is a slapper my dude Phly. Also, that loadout turns the F-4 into a point and click adventure

  • @philwhitehead403
    @philwhitehead403 Рік тому +1

    I worked on Phantoms back in the day. The maxTGT (Tail Gate Temperature) was dyno taped onto the gauge. I wasn't engines but i believe the limiting factor to reheat burn was that max TGT temp, each engine had it's own specific TGT. The engines were RR Spey's.

  • @ivanstayner8818
    @ivanstayner8818 Рік тому +1

    Phly's voice is so calming when hes talking queitly. I was falling alseep. He could easily do narration for something in his quiet voice. Or ASMR.

  • @chic1gmbh820
    @chic1gmbh820 Рік тому +1

    28:00 can we talk about how clean that looked

  • @SuprememK4275
    @SuprememK4275 Рік тому +9

    Finally you posted another f4E Vid keep up the good work!

    • @bradly2056
      @bradly2056 Рік тому +1

      F4J woulda been better it needs love

  • @sv3106
    @sv3106 Рік тому +4

    Attempt 180: Loving the Unloved: Play the lovechild of a Spitfire and a Mustang. The beautiful MB5. You never made a video about this.

  • @viking5736
    @viking5736 Рік тому +1

    "What was the purpose of 4 20 mils?"
    Do not question the way of the Kerbal.

  • @vluber
    @vluber Рік тому

    Thanks phly for uploading this video, this made my Sunday alot better!

  • @thegrayjedi5202
    @thegrayjedi5202 Рік тому

    I’m in fire/rescue at an F-16 fighter wing and we love hearing the afterburners and seeing them at night is cool too. We just got a crew chief here that told us the F-22/35s don’t use afterburner because of whatever kind of thrust they have now. I’ll get to the high tier game one day I’m still running props, of course if I had the choice to fly I’d always choose a prop plane anyway.

  • @riccardosirocchi3039
    @riccardosirocchi3039 Рік тому

    Thanks for your easy to follow explanations, one step at a ti. It makes learning less overwhelming!

  • @mathc2003
    @mathc2003 Рік тому

    Phly, the nozzles get bigger in full afterburner because of flow dynamics. A converging nozzle (narrower at the back) gives more thrust for subsonic flow. A diverging nozzle (bigger at the back) gives more thrust for supersonic flow. If I'm not mistaken, the shapes you see in the flame trail are "shock diamonds" from the supersonic shock waves in the exhaust stream....so in afterburner, the flow stream is supersonic and the jet opens the tail feathers to optimize thrust.

  • @TD_JR
    @TD_JR Рік тому

    Used to have F4s do flyovers back in the 70s all the time -- they were stationed out of Niagara Falls AFB and it seemed they were buzzing all the suburbs several times a week. Noisy as fuck. Rattled the windows and shook the house and it was incredible as a young kid getting an air show all the time in your own backyard.

  • @Wienerschnitzel721
    @Wienerschnitzel721 Рік тому +12

    7:41 Isn't it more efficient to just keep the landing gear? I mean, doesn't the "gear holes" create a whole bunch of parasitic drag?

    • @nicojokelin5547
      @nicojokelin5547 Рік тому +3

      Sometimes losing speed is an advantage

    • @filiperss9388
      @filiperss9388 Рік тому

      Irl, of course. If its modeled in war thunder (and in every plane)? probably not.

    • @miked815
      @miked815 Рік тому +3

      @@filiperss9388 idk when you open bomb bay doors in certain planes you slow down

    • @saudade7842
      @saudade7842 Рік тому

      Yep, I think it's modeled in game

    • @user-tu4un9zl5f
      @user-tu4un9zl5f Рік тому

      It's kinda strange, even cockpits if left open fall of due to wind pressure so maybe there was so minimal drag that none could notice it

  • @TheNobleBrit
    @TheNobleBrit Рік тому +2

    Try #4: @PhlyDaily I've found a gem that you are looking for, the ZT3A2 Missile bus. BUT its at the wrong B.R.
    Believe me, take it into 11.3 and with the triple 1000mm pen tandem warhead missile, with third gen thermals and great speed, you can delete anything in your way.
    Its a case of, right vehicle, wrong B.R.

  • @fakiAZer
    @fakiAZer Рік тому +2

    13:02 that could be a new meme ngl "*buuuuurrrrrrppppp* mmmmmhhhh M E X I C A N "

  • @AussieWT265
    @AussieWT265 Рік тому

    Phly in the dev server, there is a new plane in the strike aircraft line, it is similar to the SU-17 but it can carry 4 gun pods rather than the three on the phantom so that might have a higher burst mass.

  • @ImmellemmI
    @ImmellemmI Рік тому

    I remember that there was the old Flying Tigers event, which was P-40s vs Zeros on the China Valley Air AB map years and years ago. The interesting part was that it was done with RB flight models, which brings up what you said about Air RB on smaller maps without markers. I think that would be a great twist.

    • @billymayshere6128
      @billymayshere6128 Рік тому

      Ki-43 was also in that event, got me all the P-40 skins back in the day

  • @kj4ilk
    @kj4ilk Рік тому

    that was a beautiful display of teamwork if i do say so myself

  • @jovanni_orb5116
    @jovanni_orb5116 Рік тому

    That first look down shoot down at 5:57 war epic. lol

  • @andrasbalogh4291
    @andrasbalogh4291 Рік тому

    RealEngineering has a video on the Concorde and he explains that the nozzle needs to be bigger when the afterburner is active because the exhaust is supersonic and the larger the exit area, the faster the flow and thus the thrust. So a smaller nozzle chokes the afterburner and reduces thrust.

  • @BeanzWarThunder
    @BeanzWarThunder Рік тому

    OMG FINALLY A AIR RB VIDEO!
    I love them so much!
    Have a good day PHLYYYYYYYYYYY

  • @theannihilator9167
    @theannihilator9167 Рік тому

    9:05 -> Flight of the Swallows!
    Guardian Angel was with german piston planes like FW190 or Bf109.
    I miss those events so hard...!😔

  • @howiethehowitzer7398
    @howiethehowitzer7398 Рік тому +2

    The good old "we need to spice up this relationship" talk. Weekly events would be nice though!

  • @davinci69
    @davinci69 Рік тому

    20:15 Modern jets can go anywhere from a minute (f35) to twenty minutes (f18) with afterburner and then the entire fuel load (including external stuff) is just gone. Thats why its only used for a few seconds in combat or with heavy load takeoffs.

  • @BroDog555
    @BroDog555 Рік тому +2

    I've listened to the song Phly used in this vid on repeat a couple times in the past while grinding ARB because it slaps, and for those who are interested in that song its "AGST - Fights" from "Epidemic Arcade" im telling ya if u enjoyed it in this vid u should use it like i do while playing ARB to give that emotional boost of a feeling that u can do it!
    or just listen to danger zone which also slaps... piece out.

  • @01howdoidothis
    @01howdoidothis Рік тому

    Just an FYI if you haven't heard a b1b (Bone) it's like 4 flight of F-4's at take off and the ground and buildings rattle from the force generated. 2021 I traveled across America and visited a lot of air bases and museums and it was a once in a life time trip. I recommend Dayton Ohio and Dulles Air Museum in or just outside of DC.

  • @ShooterAK
    @ShooterAK Рік тому +1

    we never leave a teamate to dry.......... looks where he is @... sees enemies......you're so toast mcgee. lmmmmaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooo

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os Рік тому

    I love how Fly is Yeeting one of me every second at the enemy.

  • @luckyduck3985
    @luckyduck3985 Рік тому

    Phly, Been watching your channel since right after War thunder started. I've been amazed to be able to see your channel grow and so happy you have been able to turn this into what you have. I have a project that I am starting, in large part thanks to the creativity I've seen in the past several years on your channel. I would love for you to hear my idea and get any advice you might have. I also would not feel right starting this project without inviting you to participate. I'm absolutely not asking you to take on any new project, but I would be honored to have your feedback.

  • @Ryan-hl1ch
    @Ryan-hl1ch Рік тому

    another option for super high burst mass is the yak38m with 5x 23mm, 4 pods and the one under body gun. good fun

  • @skyghost3971
    @skyghost3971 Рік тому

    afterburner is usually used for few minutes (i think 3 minutes max on mig-25 not sure* time depends on the engine as the materials used) before the engine start melting down, it's an additional part where you can utilize the remaining air since the mixture in the combustion chamber must be lean (low fuel to air ratio) thus you just inject fuel into the duct to create that extra jet gas expansion.
    and that's why when you put full throttle you see afterburner for few minutes then stops for cooldown.

  • @johnathanrudisill3050
    @johnathanrudisill3050 Рік тому

    lmao the screaming right before 7:27 his hilarious

  • @pilotdoggo9603
    @pilotdoggo9603 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic vid PHly, love the PHantom (it suits your name)

  • @LouBerry-zm9il
    @LouBerry-zm9il Рік тому

    My grandfather is a usaa veteran in Vietnam. The Nozzle on the back of the engine is designed to take the heat of the afterburner for a Certain amount of time. But eventually it will get hot enough to destroy it

  • @termopan6377
    @termopan6377 Рік тому +2

    Phly should play the IAR81-C The romanian ww2 plane😅👽

  • @mhsbosco
    @mhsbosco Рік тому

    ​ @Lugbor G I've also thought about ground RB being too "arena-y". My main thing would probably be having more time and space in matches. I know that not everyone can afford playing 20+ minute matches, but that's what arcade would do in that scenario. For me, the ideal fix would be having everything you said mashed with more time and slightly larger maps (adapted to the BR range you're in, don't wanna have enormous maps for tanks that can't go over 20 km/h).
    I'm gonna ramp up the imagination dial up to 11 here, but now imagine each ground RB battle is one of many cities/areas in a single huge air RB battle. The aircraft in their own air match can attack and be attacked by these ground players from different matches of their own. Maybe it's all one game mode in this case, fusing air and ground RB together or something, so you just choose at spawn time if you're flying or driving. Hell, on coastal maps you could even have vessels duking it out and/or supporting ground forces with their siege on a specific city or just objective in general by artillery support with main cannons. Small boats could get into cities with canals and cap flags that happen to be in range or navigate in rivers ferrying supplies for ground units.
    A man can dream...

  • @Violet_chan4499
    @Violet_chan4499 Рік тому

    It’s a lot more complicated than that the nozzles I thought the same way until I saw a certain video which actually helped me understand it more

  • @enzozeb
    @enzozeb Рік тому

    Epic video and vibe! Love the music

  • @jaanikaapa6925
    @jaanikaapa6925 Рік тому +2

    Originally F4 didn't have a gun due to the missileer concept. Guns were thought to be obsolete. During Vietnam they realised that they did need a gun and so the gunpods were made.

    • @Illiterate243
      @Illiterate243 Рік тому

      What about the U.S. A-36 at 2.3 it has gun pods

    • @jaanikaapa6925
      @jaanikaapa6925 Рік тому

      @@Illiterate243 Gunpods are used for many things. In this case I was talking about the short nosed Phantom II. The long nosed has an internal gunbay.

  • @flopjul3022
    @flopjul3022 Рік тому

    12:30 tbf flat maps are uninteresting in Air RB but mountainous or city(sky scrapers) can be interesting depending on the playstyle, i love to fly low in my Horten 229 and just zoom along the ground

  • @Kvandy695
    @Kvandy695 Рік тому +2

    I though that the hind actually had the most with it’s 23mm gun pods?

  • @ryancrazy1
    @ryancrazy1 Рік тому

    I agree phly. The best dog fights happen in ground rb.

  • @flakmag1004
    @flakmag1004 Рік тому +5

    The A-10 with the 20mms on has a burst mass of 66kg.... 10 more than the f4e....

    • @Illiterate243
      @Illiterate243 Рік тому +1

      Some guy in another comment said the Yak 38 had like 30 kilograms more of burst mass

  • @garywang7868
    @garywang7868 Рік тому

    Hey Phly, The reason that the nozzle opens is to maintain the mass flow rate. In very simple terms, when you increase the temperature and velocity of the exhaust (afterburner) it will create an increase in static pressure at the nozzle, thus the mass flow rate changes. When this happens it affects the turbine upstream causing a compressor surge which is not ideal. The nozzle is varied in area when the AB is on based on temperature, nozzle intake and exhaust pressure, and a variety of other parameters to ensure that the mass flow rate is maintained, thus the turbine upstream is unaffected. I'm no expert in this area so if someone knows more plz correct me hah!

    • @navenation2753
      @navenation2753 Рік тому

      To my understanding this is correct, but also it serves to increase thrust. Dry thrust exits the back of the turbine at subsonic velocities, and without going into fluid mechanics a simple convergent nozzle will do, kind of like when you blow into your friends' ear. when afterburner is added mass flow rate temperature and pressure increase and a simple convergent nozzle loses efficiency due to an effect called choking- basically the fluid (air) cant move fast enough through the nozzle so efficincy is lost. Engineers solve this problem with a convergent-divergent nozzle geometry also known as a C-D, De Lavalle nozzle, or rocket nozzle. Just like in a space rocket, this allows the fluid to reach ambient pressure while still in the jet pipe, maximizing efficiency and thrust velocity. Supersonic flows are funky things.

  • @alpinestuff8377
    @alpinestuff8377 Рік тому

    I agree, air RB is the same cut and paste gridmap every game. I wish they would overhaul it and make it more interesting.

  • @hm94goal
    @hm94goal Рік тому

    finally an Air RB video. thanks.

  • @ThinkingFingers
    @ThinkingFingers Рік тому

    You could always make Warthunder ASMR, Phly.

  • @liamwray866
    @liamwray866 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been doing this the past couple of days! Refreshing to say the least, missile thunder isn’t exactly satisfying anymore!

  • @jimgomez5046
    @jimgomez5046 Рік тому

    the nozzle enlarges to produce more thrust. if it became smaller it would restrict the size of the thrusting "flame". more thrust = larger "flame" diameter.

  • @kerbalairforce8802
    @kerbalairforce8802 Рік тому

    Grand canyon, rocky mountain, swiss Alps. Places we could have neat air battles.

  • @coffeecat4506
    @coffeecat4506 Рік тому

    If the nozzle were to get smaller upon afterburn the life reliability of the nozzles would be compromised and it would almost sort of create a thrust reverser effect, thus counteracting the whole point of an afterburner, that's why expanding the nozzle makes it more efficient especially in relation to supersonic and subsonic air running through the engine...

  • @priynzejaemusic337
    @priynzejaemusic337 Рік тому

    The scream from the missile was hilarious 🤣🤣

  • @Armgoth
    @Armgoth Рік тому

    Haha the enemy dodging the wall of nope at the end xDD

  • @FillyCheesteak
    @FillyCheesteak Рік тому +1

    LETS GOOOOOO!!
    Thank you for doing this video, Phly!

  • @angelvidal4774
    @angelvidal4774 Рік тому

    I've seen photos of Phantoms carrying 4 gunpods. Plus they're own cannon.

  • @Rexs_EA
    @Rexs_EA Рік тому

    Phly I remember some time ago when you said the peaky blinders show was good and after just finishing season 6 I completely agree

  • @thedutchwolf9747
    @thedutchwolf9747 Рік тому

    23:55 that fu brrrrt was hilarious and unexpected

  • @iamperplexed4695
    @iamperplexed4695 Рік тому

    The F4-E is the greatest American fighter ever produced. I recently went on vacation and now display two photos from it. A photo of my wife and a photo of me hugging the nose of the F4 that sits on the deck of the U.S.S Midway in San Diego.

  • @chocoatemilk9227
    @chocoatemilk9227 Рік тому +1

    back when you could fly br 10-11 without dying of emotional pain

  • @sangomasmith
    @sangomasmith Рік тому

    The song around the 12 minute mark is Fights by AGST

  • @Dk_9122
    @Dk_9122 Рік тому +1

    Phloppy no one has done a m103 vid in months and im starting to itch.

  • @matthewdeavitt9888
    @matthewdeavitt9888 Рік тому

    Started playing recently, and I gotta say, it's one of the Few games I've found where PC and console players are pretty well matched. Doesn't feel as uneven, even with basic tanks.

  • @floopygoober
    @floopygoober Рік тому +6

    I wish they would add realistic maps like that one arcade map with the crazy holes in the mountains. Things you can actually use to dogfight in and what not. It would be sweet

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Рік тому +1

    this thing will be good with the custom loadouts.
    4 20mm M61 and all the missiles in the world

    • @patricktho6546
      @patricktho6546 Рік тому +1

      @Real Geology with Chris! The F4 is the worst manouvering jet at top tier fighter anyways.

  • @cargo9877
    @cargo9877 Рік тому

    I think one that may beat the phantom in burst mass is the premium yak-38 in USSR, it has the ability to hold 4 pods. Might wanna try it out if your able to

  • @leonardosousa297
    @leonardosousa297 Рік тому +7

    Day 217: Phly, you should play the Hawl III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced
    Two soldiers are always better!