crazy fair at 22:40 zain must have been holding asdi up from when he got knocked down because the sdi would be unreactable (unless he got the most precise timing read on leffen's jab)
it's something you should try to do so that they don't hit you, yes. unless you're asking whether it's supposed to happen, yes it can happen if you time your side b correctly, like he did here
Don't listen to suw, it's something almost no marth ever does even though it's "optimal" at that distance, Zain has just practiced vs Sheik a crazy amount Keep in mind that if they throw out needles close to you and expect you to parry it, they get a free aerial after your move comes out. Zain knew he could get away with it in that position.
Very controversial game, Leffen was justified when Kodorin also had the same issue, but he says something only after Zain took a stock during the second game. Leffen says it started during the first stock but I think it was right at the start of the second game? Not sure if he meant that, regardless sucks that it happened.
@Morph Ball Yeah lol, I for sure agree with you that Zain-Cody at GENESIS is the most competitive set Zain's had so far this year (even including LACS 4) but that was winner's semis of not-Pound :)
I'm not typically a leffen fan but thats actually rude af of the commentators at the end there. if you're playing hot then something like your crt stopped working and steals away all your momentum, its going to tilt you going forward regardless.
commentators are supposed to be unbiased but made any chance to dump on leffen, thats what the PEOPLE are for.... not the casters. casters shouldnt influence people's thoughts with toxic ideas smh
Sure what he did was bad but it isn’t even in the same realm as some of the other players/commentators that got banned. To my knowledge he never sexually assaulted anyone or did stuff w/ minors
I don't understand in game 2 why they had to restart as Zain had a clear lead. At the very least, they should have picked off exactly at the stocks and percentages they were at
You want to track which moves were in the staling queue while you're at it? It's more convenient to just restart the game plus if there was actually an issue with the CRT then it would have also been unfair to Leffen to keep playing a game already affected by technical difficulties. It's really unfortunate what happened, but at least they didn't restart the whole set
@@rekt_yer_nan_darding_5788 If Leffen had won the restarted game, many people would have questioned the validity of the game and possibly the set. Cuts both ways. No reason whatsoever, besides laziness, to not restart the game at the same stocks/percentages.
@@garrisonkelley3306 Bro why are you so worked up about this, Randall is a joke name that FastFox came up with in 2006. The cloud does not identify as Randall, they are not offending the cloud.
I don't know what happened in game 2 with all the technical difficulties I realized a lot of the melee videos have had small or noticeable technical issues but all in all good game I hate to see that due to the tech issues that Leffen maybe lost some steam
God this commentary was fuckin horrendous. They are literally just saying what we can all see. Sometimes they say random things that add nothing. Look they're at 58 and 85% damage, palindrome percents. What? Why say that? and they missed so many little things. They couldn't have gotten like June and Rishi to provide analysis?
They did that earlier in the tournament, too. "69% and 96%!" Like that matters at all. It's pretty bland color commentary. They might as well call out that there are stars in Whispy's branches. It wasn't bad commentary, but has some room to improve.
@@PalPlays yeah i'd rather the commentators just said funny shit and argued with each other. Commentators can either contribute to the gameplay on screen with insight or contribute to the entertainment value of the stream with banter. I feel like the people who run supermajors are asking the commentators to do neither
@@tokisuno I would imagine all CRTs at this point are ancient as fuck; this problem is gonna happen more and more. It's time for everyone to go full Slippi.
@@nahor88 CRTs have been considered to be ancient for years now. That isn't anything new. I wouldn't say it's time to go full Slippi. You probably meant more full HD lagless monitors, but with the backing we have with our community that is really hard to do.
@@tokisuno I'm saying the problem is only going to get WORSE. Make the full switch sooner than later before an important match actually gets disturbed beyond just the TV flickering.
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Didn’t think Leffen sheik would make waves but it’s actually pretty good
You should watch his set against Zain at Genassist then. He beats him 5-1, 4 times in a row on FD.
He did a guide to sheik back in the day for a sub goal
pretty good? by results u could easily argue its the best shiek currently with Jmook at number 2
@@MykeondaMic u mean plup
@@MykeondaMic jmook clearly a better sheik
22:53 Leffen said "this TV sucks, if we played on the first and it worked I would've beat you"
crazy fair at 22:40 zain must have been holding asdi up from when he got knocked down because the sdi would be unreactable (unless he got the most precise timing read on leffen's jab)
Game 1 was such beautiful Sheik vs Marth play from Leffen. I'm studying the hell out of that one.
playing next to the player is a whole different experience, I was sad when the two tv's became the norm :(
Really agree
Agree but people would keep looking at your DI like hbox looking at ppmds controller to do a rest years back
i agree. two TVs feels like LAN/net games, not console experience.
Damn, always feels good to see Leffen get dunked in the big screen.
i love how from the dawn of melee to now we've gone from "Sheik is awesome" to "Sheik is lame" back to "Sheik is awesome" again.
Nah sheik is still lame lmao
there was no time in history when "sheik was awesome", just the least technical and thus lame
15:57...Zain so innovative
also I don't think I've ever seen someone DI behind Sheik after getting hit by her down tilt 22:02...so clutch by Zain
Zain swatting the needles at 20:26 is crazy, is that a common thing for marth?
it's something you should try to do so that they don't hit you, yes.
unless you're asking whether it's supposed to happen, yes it can happen if you time your side b correctly, like he did here
Don't listen to suw, it's something almost no marth ever does even though it's "optimal" at that distance, Zain has just practiced vs Sheik a crazy amount
Keep in mind that if they throw out needles close to you and expect you to parry it, they get a free aerial after your move comes out. Zain knew he could get away with it in that position.
@@codetaku that wasn't parry...
Leffen chocked because he was worried that hax was waiting in the back alley to assult him.
Constant tournament winners from Leffen, almost always punished too. That's not normal, costed him a LOT in this set.
Wow, Zain is so good! I like his Marth
(Princess Tutu for Super Smash Bros.!)
downb transform into duck
Tf does that even mean
Very controversial game, Leffen was justified when Kodorin also had the same issue, but he says something only after Zain took a stock during the second game. Leffen says it started during the first stock but I think it was right at the start of the second game? Not sure if he meant that, regardless sucks that it happened.
Leffen is a known whiner when things don’t go his way
Just check his face before he even landed his up B . He was thinking WTF before he even died
LETS GO ZAIN FUCK EM UP
Crazy that 3-1 is still the most competitive set Zain had in this tournament
@Morph Ball Yeah lol, I for sure agree with you that Zain-Cody at GENESIS is the most competitive set Zain's had so far this year (even including LACS 4) but that was winner's semis of not-Pound :)
2:08 The pro airdodge
Zain’s pillow is obviously broken.
Of course after game one Leffen starts losing; Zain had two people on his side!
Well leff had the rest of the tetrad on his side so he had 4 on his side.
Certified Leffen Moment™️
Zaffin a new character plot twist. Zuan, zuanbox, and now leffian or zaiffen
What?
@@evadekiryu5060 focus young one, focus
@@thatdude3977 yes
Another amazing set
I cant believe 16 year old Joe Rogan commentated on this, insane
16:40 the power of 69%
I'm not typically a leffen fan but thats actually rude af of the commentators at the end there. if you're playing hot then something like your crt stopped working and steals away all your momentum, its going to tilt you going forward regardless.
He was losing the game that he stopped though
@@fishwoz17 by 1 stock? Zain was high percent, not much of a lead at all
commentators are supposed to be unbiased but made any chance to dump on leffen,
thats what the PEOPLE are for.... not the casters.
casters shouldnt influence people's thoughts with toxic ideas smh
@@fishwoz17 did you see how fast they traded stocks game 1? it isn't as decisive at this level.
Leffen is known for his salt, johns and for being rude af. He deserves this at least.
even the TV was sick of Leffen
Old school ftw
1:17 dash attack hitbox??
Marth's hitbox was different bc of facing away in a dash. Kinda annoying
Kodorin also had issues with that tv... a pitty
zain bodied leff so hard he switched mains
finally a brown man avenged chillindude lol
How is leffen still allowed in the smash community
you are clearly outdated on the news
@@crimsoncubic1355 ?? How he's a shit person him getting a dog doesn't change anything 😂
@@crimsoncubic1355 give us an update
Sure what he did was bad but it isn’t even in the same realm as some of the other players/commentators that got banned. To my knowledge he never sexually assaulted anyone or did stuff w/ minors
@impawssible remember hax
This thumbnail faked me out and would have sworn this was like a 2014 set
Leffen is still making johns pre game? I remember him getting obliterated by zain on TBH9 and saying something about his hands. Interesting.
This was satisfying.
I think Leffen probably blinked and thought it was somebody else's fault.
Leffen is such a clown 😂😂
Plup & Westballz be like bruh .....stay your fox
But not bad man that was still a nightmare lol sheik is scary
this is one of the best melee sets ive seen in years
I don't understand in game 2 why they had to restart as Zain had a clear lead. At the very least, they should have picked off exactly at the stocks and percentages they were at
Better call saul
Zain, Leffen, and the TO probably all agreed to it
You want to track which moves were in the staling queue while you're at it? It's more convenient to just restart the game plus if there was actually an issue with the CRT then it would have also been unfair to Leffen to keep playing a game already affected by technical difficulties. It's really unfortunate what happened, but at least they didn't restart the whole set
It’s because leffen was losing supposably to a variable outside of his control. Why would Zain want to ruin the sets validity over 1 stock.
@@rekt_yer_nan_darding_5788 If Leffen had won the restarted game, many people would have questioned the validity of the game and possibly the set. Cuts both ways.
No reason whatsoever, besides laziness, to not restart the game at the same stocks/percentages.
Covid mask leffen looks suspiciously like his new alt. . .
So Johning mid set is a new tech? Leffen definitely evolving the vs marth matchup
dont forget the leff pre johns as well
3:12 isn't that the guy that's always taking off his shirt
He said cojones lol
Why is Leffen still allowed to compete after all the lives he ruined
cause he's good at the game, not justifying but that's what it is
3:29 classic leffen with the pre-game johns
Zain 4-1 Leffen
“IMO should be replayed”
Shoutout to Hat being on the screen when the TV was contested
one of the commentators called randall “the cloud” and that just doesn’t sit right with me
oh my god he did it twice. he has a name
WHY TF ARENT THEY SAYING HIS NAME THEY BOTH DID IT NOW
Fun fact: in Japan they just call it the cloud
@@garrisonkelley3306 Bro why are you so worked up about this, Randall is a joke name that FastFox came up with in 2006. The cloud does not identify as Randall, they are not offending the cloud.
@@codetaku His name is Randall and you shall respect it
I don't know what happened in game 2 with all the technical difficulties I realized a lot of the melee videos have had small or noticeable technical issues but all in all good game I hate to see that due to the tech issues that Leffen maybe lost some steam
Leffen was behind when he called the tech issue.
yay, leff joins the US team :)
Funny all the issues the only happen when Leffen is around.
ads every minute... not very cash money
Leff ain’t Jmook
i think the melee community's might need to re-create CRT TV technology, lmao
Firepuff12 has better production good lord
15:02
what a pivot f smash
Jeez what a good game with some hiccups haha
Lol leffen thought marth couldnt sdi out of sheik throw combos LOLOLOL
Just here for the aspect ratio
Let's go Leffen Sheik
Johns
Get bodied leffen lmao
Damn leffen sucks
I bet you wouldn't take a stock against him
Is Leffen lying?
Leffens luck is consistently hilarious.
What luck?
I hate when commentators yell over the chants only to tell us what the chants are so we cant hear the chants
Sad seeing Leffen is still able to compete
Why not ?
God this commentary was fuckin horrendous. They are literally just saying what we can all see. Sometimes they say random things that add nothing. Look they're at 58 and 85% damage, palindrome percents. What? Why say that? and they missed so many little things. They couldn't have gotten like June and Rishi to provide analysis?
They did that earlier in the tournament, too. "69% and 96%!" Like that matters at all. It's pretty bland color commentary. They might as well call out that there are stars in Whispy's branches.
It wasn't bad commentary, but has some room to improve.
@@PalPlays yeah i'd rather the commentators just said funny shit and argued with each other. Commentators can either contribute to the gameplay on screen with insight or contribute to the entertainment value of the stream with banter. I feel like the people who run supermajors are asking the commentators to do neither
I feel like melee gameplay is just all gimicks. No finesse.
that's smash ultimate. melee is finesse personified
couldve been not used to playing on CRT from playing only Slippi
nah, Kodorin noticed flickering with the TV as well
crts don't normally flicker during games. that isnt an adjustment factor LMAO.
@@tokisuno I would imagine all CRTs at this point are ancient as fuck; this problem is gonna happen more and more. It's time for everyone to go full Slippi.
@@nahor88 CRTs have been considered to be ancient for years now. That isn't anything new. I wouldn't say it's time to go full Slippi. You probably meant more full HD lagless monitors, but with the backing we have with our community that is really hard to do.
@@tokisuno I'm saying the problem is only going to get WORSE. Make the full switch sooner than later before an important match actually gets disturbed beyond just the TV flickering.
IMO should be replayed
Nice to see Leffens Sheik. On a side-note, why are players still required to wear a mask? That's kind of a violation of our rights.
which right is it in violation of?
Bro you commented about masks like 10 different times throughout 2 tournaments, stfu.
Because melee is run by woke people who need to get their virtue signal points
our right to play super smash brothers melee for the nintendo gamecube without a mask on of course, it's on the constitution!
this dude commenting on every video crying about masks lmaoo
Impossible to root for Marth players
why's that? What characters do you like to root for?
Alright bro
Cry
@@Windraesa hgod! Oh wait
You say that while the Marth is fighting against a Sheik LMAO.