Man, really liking Jmook's perseverance. People thinking he wasn't gonna be making top 8 after that run at Genesis, but my God were those people wrong.
@@patoa3481 i remember i said to him on stream that maybe he is understimating himself too much and he replied "maybe", which is crazy because he plays like the most confident man even in high pressure situations
Jmook has got the be the most explosive rise to greatness the game's ever seen right? Like has anyone ever gone from relative obscurity, never having made top 8 at a major, to getting 2nd place at the biggest tournament of the year and then 2nd place again at another major later that year? Picking up multiple wins against top 3 players along the way? Absolutely crazy
I think it was a long time coming, Zain didn't really get to play against too many Sheik players during his time on top. Sheik hard loses to Fox and Mango also had a hand in knocking the Sheik players down a peg, so Sheik just wasn't making it to the end of brackets during Slippi era. Also I think Plup doesn't attend as many tournaments as he should, he's clearly the best Sheik but doesn't want to burn himself out going to tourneys every weekend.
you know. I really noticed just how good the production for this event was. They had so many camera angles all going after every game and kept going between them. The camera team was good, and the people choosing the cameras are good
the year is 2032, zain beats leffen with his signature samus counterpick to leffen's game and watch and the crowd boos yet another 5-3 finals with each stage in the set having the same stock count for the fifth consecutive levo.
That was an absolutely nuts set!! Jmook is a god. For years Zain made us believe that Marthritis was a myth and here Jmook is living in the 150%+ with his insane defensive tech. Amazing play here by both players...
The fact that people still try to say that Marth beats sheik blows my mind. Zain almost certainly would have won this tournament if not for jmook. I'm pretty sure most of Zain's few losses this year have been against jmook and plup's sheiks. And I'm not discrediting jmook; he's a really incredible player. But if a skilled Marth goes against an equally skilled sheik, the sheik tends to win. And I think people may say Zain is the higher skilled player at this point. Marth may have some stuff, but sheik has so many consistent, reliably good offensive options for early, mid, and kill percents, and a super strong defensive and recovery game. Overall this matchup is really hard for Marth.
@@trashman1791 Agreed, but Puff and Pikachu are up there, too. But I think Zain changed my opinion some about Puff. I think at least Zain's losing matchups right now are Sheik and Pikachu.
@@barbarictearemedy I feel like marth dominates puff but it might just be Zain lol. Also I think Pikachu is just alright vs marth, axe is just so good at the matchup because of practice with guys like tai, taj and medz
We are developing quite the top group right now. Zain, Jmook, Leffen, Mang0, and iBDWs of the world all swapping games. Plup and aMSa not far behind either, plus you can never forget about Moky, n0ne, llod, and now Joshman and Hbox looking like they can hang. Melee is in a good spot at the moment.
You really named Hbox after everyone INCLUDING Joshman and Moky considering that since In person tournaments have been back, he's consistently gotten into top 5 at every tournament he's been at? His worst placing is 7th, but, "he can hang"? Damn man you really tweaking.
@@Supertaldo916 hey man he’s only a top 3 player of all time, he needs to prove himself more than that before getting into the pantheon with the likes of Joshman 🤓
Hbox explained it well in his interview with Walt, because there are so many different characters at the top level, it's gonna be tough for anyone to be overwhelmingly dominant for the time being
@@riffz6065 He's still #1 but not by a long shot lol. If Hbox wins the next stacked tournament, there's a good argument for him being the best over Zain.
@@thebenis3157 lol hbox is delusional, he practiced a bit and is already back to winning tournaments. Apart from Jmook and Zain and maybe IBDW, there not 15 new people able to win tourneys like they like to pretend, it's just that so many at the top quit that obviously somebody had to fill the placements. Hbox winning again and Leffen just casually taking a 2 year break during corona and coming back fucking shit up proves nobody got significantly better.
@@youtubeonly520 I'm sorry, but like, every single competitor highly disagrees with that last part, they ALL got significantly better, no exceptions. As for the people who can win tournaments, think about it, Hbox, Zain, IBDW and Leffen all have won majors already this year, Plup has won CEO, beating hbox and it's very realistic to think he can win something else. Jmook absolutely can also win a tournament, Wizzrobe can win a tournament if he comes back, Mang0 can win a tournament if he just returns to form, which is definitely gonna happen eventually. Maybe Amsa can win one too with some bracket luck, although I'm kinda skeptical. Not only those are a lot of players that can win any tournament they go to, they're also many characters, which makes it so that bracket luck is gonna matter a lot because everyone is gonna have to go through so many match-ups every tournament at the top
its wild to see how most players will get 1-3 per game. Jmook legit amsa teching just about every chance he has. With some more experience at tournaments and practice against top players, I think hes going to be a bracket demon for a lot of players.
If zain was a fox player he would have went on Twitter and whined about how broken shiek is, how easy he is, how free the matchup is.... then done the saltiest cringes reverse popoff when he lost
"Want to see me reverse 3-0 Zain?"
"Want to see me do it again?"
2 reverse 3-0 that's crazy
Jmook, you are the champ. Congratulations! CaptainJack
Holy shit! We got the OG Sheik himself, Captain Jack!
I'm sure Jmook would be honored to hear that!
this is the highest possible honor for jmook
The captain!!!!
Wow Jmook has fans in high places now
Jmook went from getting double eliminated by zain at his breakout tournament to double eliminating zain here. Insane
why is the top comment a spoiler...
mobile users get fucked ig
@@jeyserreacts3444 why are you looking at the place where people discuss the set before watching the set if you dont want spoilers
@@kdog4467 On mobile you're forced to see the first comment.
@@rubberglovesandwich9889 most people been doing this long enough to not look at times or comments
Idek what to say about this guy anymore. If jmook can get better vs puff he can win any tournament he goes to
At least put this comment in grands man😂
still gotta figure out yoshi as well, which shouldn't be impossible since he plays sheik lol
Man, really liking Jmook's perseverance. People thinking he wasn't gonna be making top 8 after that run at Genesis, but my God were those people wrong.
Is funny because even Jmook himself was expecting to fall off
@@erickdiaz2230 he's being humble obviously. I mean look at that posture and chad mentality
@@patoa3481 i remember i said to him on stream that maybe he is understimating himself too much and he replied "maybe", which is crazy because he plays like the most confident man even in high pressure situations
Jmook has got the be the most explosive rise to greatness the game's ever seen right? Like has anyone ever gone from relative obscurity, never having made top 8 at a major, to getting 2nd place at the biggest tournament of the year and then 2nd place again at another major later that year? Picking up multiple wins against top 3 players along the way? Absolutely crazy
Most people vs Zain: You don't wanna be down 0-2
Jmook vs Zain: You do wanna be down 0-2
jmook has become my fave new melee player :) too darn clutch against zain in both winners and now in losers
Jmook has the makings of greatness in him!
When you're down 2 games and then you "Classic" someone like Zain.
6:53 insane roll by zain, it's almost disguised by the dashdance
It’s the high level roll that n0ne has been talking about on ggMelee
Insane to be able to catch that
Dude I had to replay that shit like 4 times. I was like WHAT
What a sweet movement option. Thanks for timestamp
Zain clearly has a Sheik weakness. He better start labbing the shit out of this match up because JMook and Leff ate here to play
I think it was a long time coming, Zain didn't really get to play against too many Sheik players during his time on top. Sheik hard loses to Fox and Mango also had a hand in knocking the Sheik players down a peg, so Sheik just wasn't making it to the end of brackets during Slippi era. Also I think Plup doesn't attend as many tournaments as he should, he's clearly the best Sheik but doesn't want to burn himself out going to tourneys every weekend.
He's holding forward too much.
How quickly this has become one of Melee's premier rivalries. Always a treat whenever these two play.
you know. I really noticed just how good the production for this event was. They had so many camera angles all going after every game and kept going between them. The camera team was good, and the people choosing the cameras are good
Time for Zain to pick up fox and force these players to get a tertiary Marth
the year is 2032, zain beats leffen with his signature samus counterpick to leffen's game and watch and the crowd boos yet another 5-3 finals with each stage in the set having the same stock count for the fifth consecutive levo.
@@gomjabbar6246 we can only hope 😆
Maybe bring out the Roy?? Bring back Donttestme...
That was an absolutely nuts set!! Jmook is a god. For years Zain made us believe that Marthritis was a myth and here Jmook is living in the 150%+ with his insane defensive tech. Amazing play here by both players...
This video ends with Vish going "omg" and that pretty much covers how everyone was feeling
Insane stuff to both of these guys. They are both cracked… actually insane.
The fact that people still try to say that Marth beats sheik blows my mind. Zain almost certainly would have won this tournament if not for jmook. I'm pretty sure most of Zain's few losses this year have been against jmook and plup's sheiks. And I'm not discrediting jmook; he's a really incredible player. But if a skilled Marth goes against an equally skilled sheik, the sheik tends to win. And I think people may say Zain is the higher skilled player at this point. Marth may have some stuff, but sheik has so many consistent, reliably good offensive options for early, mid, and kill percents, and a super strong defensive and recovery game. Overall this matchup is really hard for Marth.
Marths only losing matchup imo
@@trashman1791 Agreed, but Puff and Pikachu are up there, too. But I think Zain changed my opinion some about Puff. I think at least Zain's losing matchups right now are Sheik and Pikachu.
@@barbarictearemedy dont forget how strong yoshi can be against marth too, i dont think he *loses* but its rough
@@barbarictearemedy I feel like marth dominates puff but it might just be Zain lol. Also I think Pikachu is just alright vs marth, axe is just so good at the matchup because of practice with guys like tai, taj and medz
@@trashman1791 agreed
"This is when the Marthritis kicks in" made me laugh.
Also J-walk.
I love all the Melee terms.
Like Mang0s angles being Mangles.
And Amsa Tech
Jmook's composure is beyond inspirational
Zain had a really insane tournament stock
Jmook shifted up gears at 7:25
unbelievable spectable. What a match, what a game..
We are developing quite the top group right now. Zain, Jmook, Leffen, Mang0, and iBDWs of the world all swapping games. Plup and aMSa not far behind either, plus you can never forget about Moky, n0ne, llod, and now Joshman and Hbox looking like they can hang. Melee is in a good spot at the moment.
Hbox won this tourney so I’d say he can do more than just hang
You really named Hbox after everyone INCLUDING Joshman and Moky considering that since In person tournaments have been back, he's consistently gotten into top 5 at every tournament he's been at? His worst placing is 7th, but, "he can hang"? Damn man you really tweaking.
@@Supertaldo916 Agree lmao
@@Supertaldo916 hey man he’s only a top 3 player of all time, he needs to prove himself more than that before getting into the pantheon with the likes of Joshman 🤓
I appreciate the positive comment
How does Jmook go from getting steamrolled at Genesis to beating Zain? I really don't understand it at all
i love vish he's so cool
Where can I see the tournament complete ?
Game 5 was the greatest game of all time imo
What a clincher! What a comeback!
Zain seems to have trouble with Sheiks now.
Zain no longer the overwhelming dominant player anymore.
Hbox explained it well in his interview with Walt, because there are so many different characters at the top level, it's gonna be tough for anyone to be overwhelmingly dominant for the time being
He's still #1 by a long shot. Just because some players can bleed him doesn't mean he isn't a dominant force
@@riffz6065 He's still #1 but not by a long shot lol. If Hbox wins the next stacked tournament, there's a good argument for him being the best over Zain.
@@thebenis3157 lol hbox is delusional, he practiced a bit and is already back to winning tournaments. Apart from Jmook and Zain and maybe IBDW, there not 15 new people able to win tourneys like they like to pretend, it's just that so many at the top quit that obviously somebody had to fill the placements. Hbox winning again and Leffen just casually taking a 2 year break during corona and coming back fucking shit up proves nobody got significantly better.
@@youtubeonly520 I'm sorry, but like, every single competitor highly disagrees with that last part, they ALL got significantly better, no exceptions. As for the people who can win tournaments, think about it, Hbox, Zain, IBDW and Leffen all have won majors already this year, Plup has won CEO, beating hbox and it's very realistic to think he can win something else. Jmook absolutely can also win a tournament, Wizzrobe can win a tournament if he comes back, Mang0 can win a tournament if he just returns to form, which is definitely gonna happen eventually. Maybe Amsa can win one too with some bracket luck, although I'm kinda skeptical. Not only those are a lot of players that can win any tournament they go to, they're also many characters, which makes it so that bracket luck is gonna matter a lot because everyone is gonna have to go through so many match-ups every tournament at the top
Jmook looks like a chad version of Zain
Jmook reverse 3-0d Zain twice. As a sheik main, I look up to jmook
HE'S SO COOL
NUTTTTY Set
Great gameplay
Vish sounding biased towards Zain during his commentary. Are they related or something?
i do not, in fact, have to give it to Leffen
How tf this man amsa tech so damn well?? Must be annoying for Zain to not get kills with fsmash on his recoveries
its wild to see how most players will get 1-3 per game. Jmook legit amsa teching just about every chance he has. With some more experience at tournaments and practice against top players, I think hes going to be a bracket demon for a lot of players.
Oh my god jmook
SHOUTOUT BINGHAMTON UNIVERSITY
If zain was a fox player he would have went on Twitter and whined about how broken shiek is, how easy he is, how free the matchup is.... then done the saltiest cringes reverse popoff when he lost
first? also he beat zain twice this tourney, i dont even watch melee but thats crazy
reverse 3-0'd him twice! His attrition in his defense is the nuttiest part to me
I love Zain, especially early Zain. But its lame watching him wash everybody.
Major ups to JMook.
It is wise for Magnus Carlsen and I to not play these two at Melee. They will destroy us no matter what is at stake.
Game 4 Jmook is kinda crazy
Did zain just hit a sakurai combo 😳
Jmook Jmook Jmook Jmook!!!!
hay can you put a counter in the video title? so we can watch in cronological order?
ITS NOT J MUCK ITS J MOOK
Zain kinda crumbles if he loses a big lead.
Zain has now lost to the 3 main sheiks, leffen, plup, and jmook this year
twice in one tournament bro who revere 3-0's the best player in the world twice like that????