WASTE of MONEY? Emirates NEW Premium Economy!
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This is a comprehensive Flight Review of Emirates.
Class: Premium Economy Class
Route: Singapore (SIN) to Dubai (DXB)
Plane: Airbus A380-800
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Do you think Premium Economy is a waste of money or a great alternative? Let me know in the comments below :)
I find it quite pricey tbh... not sure whether I would enjoy it.
I’ve flown long haul premium economy from Australia on two occasions to L.A. and London. Managed to get both trips on the bidding upgrade system for an extra $500 each way. Gotta say I would never fly long haul in basic economy again but I also wouldn’t pay full price for premium economy, I’d go business as a treat as I only do it every 10 years.
@@budapestflyer99agreed , if they’re going to charge that price they should decrease the number of seats to allow for more room…
It sure is nicer than regular cattle. But I want to be able to elevate my legs, so it's not my thing, unless it's a short flight.
They should atleast remove 2/3 rows to allow for the full recline to be conveniently used.
As a person who fly economy most of the time, i hopped on Premium Econ from LHR to DXB last year and yes. The best decision ever! I slept like a baby throughout the journey and sat at the same seat you are seating in this video. I am a fan of this class. Haha
Despite its drawbacks, I always find myself going back to flying Emirates because there's a level of consistency you get with them. Even on their "worst" days, the experience is much better than most other airlines.
I flew the A380 at the start of the year to Auckland in Premium Economy and I would say it was definitely worth it for that 16 hour journey with the increased leg room, on shorter routes such as Singapore I think you are still better off in economy as its not too long. EDIT: Also never take the last row in the middle of the premium economy cabin as all you hear is the banging and clanging in the galley all flight long.
As a “mature” traveller, I have now reached the point where I find the long haul flights in economy unbearable. Last year I flew from Melbourne to London on Singapore Airlines, Premium Economy and really for me that extra legroom was worth the money. SIA also included free wifi which was a bonus, as you say adequate for sending updates to loved ones. Also NO amenities kits, I also thought that was rather cheap given how much extra you are paying. Another surprising thing was that there was no separate drinks service, I found out later drinks are now on request, also I thought “cheap” Food was ok without being much better than economy. I have booked my next flight to Cape Town from Melbourne early next year on SIA in Premium Economy, purely because I now need that extra comfort, rather than because it represents good value.
Japan Airlines premium much better…..42 inch seat pitch, shell back seats so nobody can recline back on you, lounge access etc.
I fly mainly with StarAlliance between North America and Europe, by default, I always aim to book Premium Economy, you enter the plane after Business, have space for your carry-on since less person, better food, more fidelity points for futur business ticket and for the price it's a great product.
I can't wait to see your Africa trip. I have just finished following Noel Philips travelling through Africa on the various airlines and look forward to seeing your reviews too along this route. Take care and fly safe.
I flew Premium Economy on Air New Zealand and it was a case of receiving an email and putting in a bid to upgrade to Premium Economy, I put in $100 and it was accepted a few days before my flight. I really liked it. The most entertaining part of the flight was when during meal service the girl sitting next to me stated she was vegan and the flight attendant offered her the chicken. I had a chuckle 😅
Hi Josh. I think from a revenue point. Airlines will add more and more Premium Economy cabins, as they can fit more seats into the space than Business. They will reduce Business Class seating. Then continue to increase the price of Premium Economy but offer a lesser service than Business. Through time, Business Class may be removed and the service in Premium improved, thus pushing the price up
The problem with most premium economies is that the arm rests are fixed. Sometimes; on a quieter flight; you’re better in economy because if you get two to three seats to yourself you can lay down; whereas in premium economy even if you have a row to yourself you can’t move armrests and lay down.
So true. From my experience.
You mentioned that Emirates cabin crew are a 'mixed bag' , so to speak-- you're bang on there. 100%. The quality of their aircraft more than make up for some other aspects of their travel experience
Agreed. Every time I fly on Emirates I experience the same. Either your crew is world class or not bothered at all.
@budapestflyer99 it is up to the people man not the airline
I've never flown Emirates, but flying to SE Asia for the first time next week. My wife and I are doing Business Class on Malaysia 737-800 and A330-300, Cathay Pacific A330-300 and A350-900, and EVA 777-300. Watched all of your videos to make our decision before booking. Thanks for what you do!
Premium economy might be the happy medium; enough comfort without the extravagance and prices of Business / First Class
It’s not, it sucks and stop deluding yourself LOL
Imo the hard product is basically what business class used to be 20-30 years ago tho
Premium Economy isn't defined by Webster's Dictionary. It is defined by the individual airlines. Here in the US, I have flown Premium Economy on Alaska Airlines. All Premium Economy provides is extra legroom and a seat just behind the first class cabin, which helps with boarding and deplaning - but that's it. No extra food, no towel service, no welcome beverage, etc. Just more legroom and a seat near the front of the plane.
deplaning is NOT a word. You didn't plane the aeroplane, therefore you can't deplane it. You disembarked the aircraft.
Premium Econ is basically evolving into business class from 20 years ago w/ regard to the hard product. That being said I’m not sure how the nomenclature has evolved to make this be considered a “premium economy” seat and how a “business class” seat is now what we’d use to call first class. Your friend might be onto something but I think they will just bring back the first class cabin and rebrand premium eco as business
40 years ago (not 20). Think back to when QF introduced the first biz class with a surcharge and a J fare designator at the start of the 1980s. Back then biz class was configured 2-4-2 on the 747's lower deck.
Compared to premium economy, I've found business class has a few extra ground perks, wider seats, reduced seats/bathroom ratio, free alcohol, better meal selection, lay-flat seats, and importantly.. the seats in business class have more privacy with partitions and doors.
Premium economy has its place on flagship carriers like this. Would I pay $11,000 for business class on Emirates going from Miami to Dubai? NO! But I would pay $3000 to be treated like a human. And that's where premium economy comes in.
Right now Premium Economy tickets have the best ROI for airlines compared to all other cabins - the price hike relative to level of service you get is the most in their favor. Remember those "angled lie-flat seats" from business class 20 years ago? I can definitely see those making a comeback in PE if airlines can retrofit them cheaply. JAL really feels like it's gearing up to that - their new PE seat already looks exactly like that Business seat of 20 years ago.
Your second type of crew description is exactly what left a sour taste in our mouthes after our last Emirates experience in economy. Each leg had crew who just wanted to live in Dubai and see the world for free, not really interested in being customer focused.
Josh: doesnt want food poisoning .
Also Josh: orders the fish.
He didn’t learn from watching Airplane! Never eat the fish.
I just love A380 and for that reason only, I keep going back to Emirates.
Great video Josh ex emirates crew you’re spot on about the crew being either amazing or there for the lifestyle. For the most part the crew are warm and welcoming. Also depending on where they are from is how long they stay for example Australians usually do one contract (not always sometimes more sometimes less)
Interesting - is that a problem among crew members too? Does it get addressed?
@@budapestflyer99 not a problem the ones who are there for the lifestyle can be good crew too! I mean living in Dubai tax free accomodation paid for travelling the world who doesn’t want that!! They take any complaint seriously from customers and the training is very in depth
From what I can tell Emirates crew members mostly care about posting on their instagram accounts trying to become influencers
@@Yantrus sorry not all
That "generous recline" is about what I remember getting in regular economy on a 737 in the 1970s and '80s. And that was without bothering the passenger in the back row. Yes, I'm an old boomer, deal with it!
You can often get it for reasonably cheap (bidding for upgrades often works on Lufthansa) and there I would say it's worth it.
I personally don't think we need an amenity kit outside of business class.
I get those amenity kits and give them away to my family as souvenirs. They are very nice (after all I paid for them) but when I think about the 13 hour flight I take to/from dubai, they can just as easily give you a small disposable toothbrush or stock the bathroom with basic amenities.
I’m a big fan of premium economy. I have to agree, I think within the next 5 years an airline somewhere will start offering 2-3-2 or similar nearly lie flat premium economy. Similar to the old dense business class seats
I flew on Premium Economy with EVA AIR to Bangkok a month ago from Heathrow and it was awesome!
I agree about the Emirates crew, and I would say your 70/30 split is the other way round. I always feel like an inconvenience to them. Etihad/SQ always have a nicer crew on my regular SYD/LHR trip.
I think premium economy would be great if I didn’t cost almost as much as business 😊
Premium economy today is what I felt economy was like when being a young kid in the 90s.
Review was very interesting. I have been flying Emirate business to and from Australia for over 20 years. Always very pleased with it. Recently the meals seem to have had less choice. Personally I do not think amenity kits are needed. I have never used one and usually give them away as gifts. Always choose A380 if you can.
Flew Emirates PE from Dubai to Sydney and it was amazing. The only issue was that we could only access seat map/availability after choosing to purchase premium economy fare, we found that my husband and I could not sit together 😮 after boarding a passenger agreed to swap seats. A wonderful experience
It really depends on which airline you fly. The consensus of Premium Economy is better seats. Other facilities are dependent on airline themselves. I would love to have Premium Economy seats but not at double the price, 1.5x the Economy seat price is ideal.
Not much cheaper than regular business class? Melb to Dubai is shown on screen as $2862 in premium economy and $7337 in business - which is more than double!!!
Some people do not understand the value of money……
As emirates crew myself, spot on with what you said at 10:54 unfortunately thats how it is. Great video though, keep it up Josh…
The A380 is a very special place.
When you fly the Emirates A380, you have a much larger, much more spacious, much quieter cabin than you'll get with any other airline. My first A380 flight was from JFK to Dubai with Emirates A380 and once I witnessed what a great plane it was, I was determined to fly their business class. I returned on business class, round trip, to Maldives. Not cheap at all from here: $4700 round trip.
But the economy can be problematic when it's 100% full, has screaming babies or has people trying to get you to give up your seat to them so they can sit with their families. That's happened to me thrice. Once I had booked that special seat near the exit where there's a window seat but no seat in front of you - only to have a stewardess force me to switch seats because my legs were too long. BISH - that's the reason I paid for that seat in the first place.
So Now I ONLY FLY BUSINESS CLASS.
Premium Economy is nice but they do STUPID THINGS to restrict the seat space. That STUPID LITTLE TRAY TABLE NEAR YOUR KNEES FOR EXAMPLE. It may not bother you because you're smaller, but it can be very annoying - for a 13 hour flight - especially to someone who is 6'6" like me.
The other issue is the recline of the forward seat. Having the passenger in front of you reclining can be extremely annoying.
Then there's the tray tables that come out of the armrest. It takes up space and the range of adjustment isn't luxurious. It's restrictive.
I fly Business Class. Pay Extra. Avoid dealing with these other annoyances.
You just need to ensure you book a window seat with the mini bar between you and the aisle.
Flying the World on first class, talking about style, elegance and design, but living in a house, styled like the one of an old grandma? 😂
I flew Emirates for the first time last year from LGW TO HKT. Before flying I watched some reviews about how they good they are I found the crews on both flights hit and miss. On the first sector I asked for a drink and got snapped at but the person on the row in front of me they couldn't do enough for. The second sector passengers heard keep the cabin crew say keep the cabin warm hopefully passengers will sleep
That's what I was waiting for... as EK Gold member my preferences are 1. First, 2. Premium Eco, 3. Business and 4. Eco - honestly, catering got so bad in Business!
Who remembers when that size of seat with surrounding space was considered a standard economy seat. People are getting bigger whilst the seats are getting smaller.
My sister travels to Dubai all the time with my young nephew, she prefers Premium rather then Business because she can keep an eye on him, more then Business because the seats are not really next to each other with a row in between or a big middle unit.
Never tried Emirates Premium Economy. I think I'm going to give it a try.
Good review. For me PE is good on a long flight. I have used it on TPE to ORD and it is worth it. With EK as you said Business not worth it on 777 Regular economy very good. So it is all down to cost. In my opinion PE is what Economy used to be! As for crew good analysis. Its hit and miss with EK. Where as QR is consistently good (on long haul) Short hal around the Gulf area is a disaster.
As always top notch production quality Josh always so impressed and safe travels my friend 🍷🎉
Agree with your statement about EK crew.
I’ve been flying Emirates for well over a decade and there has definitely been a quality shift during that time.
Back in 2010, almost all crews were amazing, now I’d say 30% are there to provide great service, 70% are there to party in Dubai and don’t care about the passengers they serve.
It used to be that the crew would constantly walk the cabin to ensure people were comfortable, now you tend to find them grouped in the galley discussing which club they went to during the week, if you dare interrupt you become an inconvenience and are treated as such.
As a result, EK as a product has been devalued significantly during my time travelling with them (I live in Dubai, so this is frequent).
I’ve flown their Premium recently and it’s ok, but not outstanding, I actually prefer (shocked to even say this) the BA PE product.
Love PE if the price is right. Often get it on Air Canada on North American flights using widebodies, at a good price at time of check-in. AC's is wonderful and leaps and bounds ahead of standard Y. Dedicated cabin, domestic business class seats, cocktail table, large IFE screen, meals on China almost on par with domestic business class, dedicated FA, bar trolley like domestic business class, complementary alcohol on domestic wide bodies served in the business class glassware, use of business class washrooms. Only gripe, no curtain between Y and Y+ hence Y passengers coming through our dedicated cabin and using our lavs, especially mom's with kids.
All depends on the price relativity.
At most worth 50% more than Economy. And would need to be half the price of Business.
Reality is an aircraft you pay for floorspace (which is the limiting factor). Agree that the food and other soft product is more like Business (similar to QF and SQ) whereas other airlines Premium is closer to Economy.
I flew DXB to LHR and LHR to DXB in August in Premium Economy and i found it amazing i always fly emirates and I can definitely say it’s amazing the quality the food the seats and i got the welcome drinks also the alcohol was better than in economy and hot towel for me 😉 and even the Bags came out same time as Business and first class so that was a bonus definitely worth the extra spend the only down fall was no lounge access but as a frequent flyer got access to the lounge. Out of 10 a solid 8.5
Being a frequent Emirate customer, I have had the opportunity to experience all four classes (first, business, premium and economy). I have been happy with all four and worth the money. Yes, depending on where you are flying to/from, premium economy could be just as expensive as business class, which makes no sense. In any case, still great service all around. Will always recommend Emirates.
Premium economy is ideal, Great! To me. First class not required in future
In my opinion Premium Economy serves a specific target group.
These passengers cannot necessarily afford Business Class, and in the past automatically fell into the Economy group seating. Now they have the option to upgrade. For Economy passengers with back problems, the Premium Cabin helps a lot. The Premium Economy passenger may still enjoy the hustle and bustle of the airport and not find a need for a lounge. The extras are where they need it: in the air.
Great video! While I appreciate the features of Emirates' premium economy, at the current price point, I don't think it's worth it. For just a little more, I'd rather go for business class and enjoy the added comfort and amenities. Emirates should either reconsider the pricing of premium economy or enhance the product itself to better justify the cost. As it stands, I would lean towards booking business class instead
Agreed and they should reconsider their seat configuration!
My dream is to fly on A380. Hopefully one day
Hopefully you get to experience it one day. It's the best plane I have ever flown on hands down. I've tried Emirates and Qatars A380's and Emirates is the best.
As a person who fly economy most of the time, i hopped on Premium Econ from LHR to DXB last year and yes. The best decision ever! I slept like a baby throughout the journey and sat at the same seat you are seating in this video. I am a fan of this class. Haha. I did received an amenity kit as well though. A pouch with stockings and earplugs inside.
you do get priority check in for premium economy at selected airports.
Great video Mr Josh love your reviews especially air peace review. By the way when is the second air peace business class review coming out 😂👍
Angled lie-flat seats surely don't take up much more space than these but would provide an actual reason to book premium economy. As a normal sized person economy works fine for me, I usually even enjoy the food. The reason to book business class is to sleep well, which I can't do even on the ground regardless of how comfortable the recliner is.
I flew on Emirates in March, the service was shocking, getting something as basic as water was like asking the flight attendant to chop off their arm. The seat padding was so poor metal bars in the seat back were pressing into my back.
I’ve flown SAS premium economy numerous times on the route from CPH to SFO.
I’m a tall traveler (2 meter) and my company is cheap. For me premium is a great compromise that gets me some comfort at a price the company is willing to pay.
SAS premium is pretty good in my opinion. I’ve also flown BA premium long haul on a 787 and found to great.
Air Canada has a nice premium economy given a dedicated business class toilet to use.
Please review Austrian Airways. I can't find video on your UA-cam
A dry towel, are they crazy?!?!
@@DIYsober I know right???? Crazy!
@@DiamondPlays901I know right?!!?!?? Crazy?!?
@@alexpage8505 I know right??!?!??!! Crazy!!!!!
I am a comfort creature usually only flying first or business class but I ended up sometimes in Premium economy, and must say it really depends on the airline. I don't really care about all the knick knacks, for me the seat width and legroom are the important things. From what I saw here, Emirates Premium economy seems worth it.
I have been a Skywards Gold member and have flown with Emirates regularly since relocating to Dubai in 2017. Unfortunately, you're quite right about the crew. In my experience, the most polite and proactive members tend to be from the Far East and South Asia, certainly fitting into the commendable 70% you mentioned. As a Brit, I’ve noticed that the crew from the UK and Australia often seem less engaged in their work, and many would fall into the remaining 30%. Of course, this is not a sweeping generalisation, as some are indeed hospitable and proactive, but a significant number, particularly those under 30, seem indifferent. I frequently chat with the UK-based flight attendants, and many admit they are with Emirates for only a few years, primarily to earn some money and explore the world. Regarding Premium Economy on the A380, it occasionally costs as much as flying Business Class on the B777, but even so, it’s a pleasant addition overall.
I have flown SYD to LHR via DXB on Premium Economy on EK. Overall I really liked it, my main criticism is that if your tall like me (6'4) the foot rest pushes your knees up and the position for sleeping isn't the best
I think al "premium" issue is big problem for the airlines and passangers. Take turkish airlines which tp have 3 classes but now have only bussiness and economy. It is much more easier to manage and cost saver for all
Flew Premium economy on A380 BA and it was much better than Emirates. Also flew Premium economy Virgin and that was same sort of lay out, stopped flying Emirates as it's a really long flight.
Greetings to you. I fly premium on long haul. I have used it on AF between San Francisco and Paris. It always been great. Thank you for all the videos and all yours tips. Keep the good work. Best regards
PE not really worth it, unfortunately.
Hmmm. 2-4-2? Imagine being stuck in the middle of the 4. 💩
Better to get a good business class seat or just stick with normal economy, perhaps with an exit row seat.
It can be worth it on a long haul
Of course it's worth it ...the demand is there and airlines find PE a useful tool for upgrading and downgrading.
Premium Economy looked good The seat and entertainment screen looked great , the dry towel was a bit strange
Premium economy a waste of money? Depends on what airline you’re flying with and what their premium economy offers. But looking at some of those fares, you’d be better off just sticking with economy.
It looks awesome! I flew this month with BA which was like going back in time!
I managed to blag a standard economy seat 52A on a flight between Glasgow and Dubai. Plenty of legroom and so much room
Great video,lovely and honest review.Always a pleasure watching your videos.
Beautiful video. I loved the Emirates premium economy class. Seat is well designed and looks luxurious. Inflight services and food was very good. But not happy with the fact that no amenity kit was provided. Similarly no coffee was served after lunch. Atleast the crew could have asked if you would like to have some coffee. Overall, it was ok . They can add a lot more benefits for premium economy passengers in the coming time to enhance its popularity.
The argument about amenity kits, SQ have apparently said they are a waste of money for airlines. If you think about it, most of the contents can be purchased from your local store for a "dollar"........however, admittedly, im a fan of the actually small cases you receive some airlines provide
That paneling kind of make it look like you're sitting in a small-town motel restaurant. Probably not the intended effect!
I find the cabin crew indiffrend not rude not friendly they just do what they have to
It's much nicer than most first class domestic seats in the US.
Wow, Josh, you actually want to fly Air Peace again? Youre braver than I thought! Good luck with that!
I flew with Emirates for the first time this July and while I was in economy class, I did not expect such bad service. From headphones, blankets etc being taken 45 minutes before landing, demanding to take my tray while I was still eating (we received our meal last yet they wanted to collect our trays first) and twice I saw bread rolls dropped on the floor, picked up and given to a passenger.
I usually fly Qatar but thought I'd try Emirates for a change, never again.
looks pretty decent for Y+, but also because low load in this class on this flight guess.
Ive been on emirates personally would fly on economy and save my money . Found economy very acceptable quantas economy was much more cramped
I don't think we'll see true bed seats in Premium Economy, more likely a comeback of those "angled lie-flat seats" from Business Class in the 2000s. JAL might be the ones to pioneer this. Their Premium Economy already has hardshell seats reminiscent of those old school Business cabins.
A more comfortable, luxurious experience on board a plane makes you forget you're in a heap of metal flying 40,000+ ft in the sky !!!
all depends how much you want or can spend for a ticket - I compared economy /premium and business class and you pay for what you get - Emirates products are very good
Great video. Now I'm looking even more forward to experiencing Emirates Premium Economy in the near future 🙂
Josh emirates has upgraded their 777 With new business class. Josh but in their a350’s one thing which I like is that they’re going for 2-3-2 layout and by the way I think emirates flights were the best flights ever and I took it in 2016.
Josh, understandably, throwing shade at the Qatar Airways safety video.😄
Well... I wish you to survive Air Peace this time around!
😅 Why my Aír peace ma'am?
We are now fantastic
did not even have to tell me you where in Changi could tell as soon as i saw that carpet
soon we will have JOSH Cahill awards for airlines
8:08 omg.. Josh... The Prawns are so big 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
At times I get bored of economy too. If I flew Emirates I want to be in their first class section. There I get an unforgettable experience and I can even take a shower 30,000 feet above the earth.
I like Premium Economy that I've travelled in terms of comfort and service, but the cost is quite usually outrageous.
Thanks for the review Josh. We flew Singapore Airlines premium economy about 5 years ago as a treat to ourselves and were disappointed. We are looking at a long haul trip in early 2025, and I have been looking at Emirates Airlines premium. I think you have just convinced me. Cheers
Josh is Happy. Great video..
I have never flown Emirates, but whenever I see a video about them, I can't help but think about how gaudy all of the fake wood looks.
If this were saudia it would have been the best premium economy
I think regular economy has become so uncomfortable and awful over the past 20 years that premium economy is now a must and is slightly nicer than what regular economy was like long haul in the 70s and 80s. But I agree it is sometimes way over priced that sometimes its better to just pay the little extra for business class
Yeah just flew this Mel to dxb, its pretty pricy if you pay upfront but if you upgrade on checkin its cheaper and worth it especially on long haul
Hello! great review! Thank you
EK and its Gulf rivals are facing a difficult time right now. Regional conflict is leading to flight diversions and cancellations which impact on their hub operations.