What Went Wrong? NEW LEGO Star Wars 2023 UCS X-wing Is Not Good...
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- LEGO Star Wars 75355 Ultimate Collector Series X-wing Starfighter has some serious flaws going on with it. At this scale, price and especially in 2023 I don't see an excuse on why it doesn't look more accurate to the movies...
75355 X-wing Starfighter
1,949 pieces
€239.99 / $239.99/ £209.99 / AU$369.99 / CA$319.99
Available from 1st May at LEGO.com
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I would like to remind everyone that videos like this on the Internet are SUBJECTIVE opinions. I am not saying this is a worse version than the 2013 one, I am saying that I was expecting a bigger improvement after 10 years, considering how great other modern LEGO models look nowadays. This one does not seem modernized much.
For those who criticize me for still wanting to buy it despite my criticism - the X-wing is my favorite starfighter and ever since I left my dark ages, I wanted a UCS one. And this is the only one we are getting for another 10 years or more. That is why it is so bitter sweet. I wanted it to be better for such an iconic craft and I know it could've been better cause LEGO is capable of brilliant models today. It is either this or a MOC, which would be far more expensive to build at such scale. Thank you watching!
You're going to buy this even at 240 and you don't like it? Okay, consooomer
Don't be such a coward. Claiming that the angles are all wrong compared to the movie one is an OBJECTIVE opinion since it is either correct and the angles don't match or it is incorrect and the angles actually do match. Hiding behind 'It's just my subjective opinion bro' is honestly just a cowardly thing to do.
Love the Bold look .. Retro Mod
It's a playscale set blown up without the UCS sheen to me. I would maybe settle for $180 on Amazon or something in the future but wouldn't shed a tear missing out on it entirely tbh.
Right, they did the same with other UCS sets like Obi Wan's Starfighter, and Republic Gunship.
Nice large models, no doubt but they don't have the proper extras that makes it stand out as a highly detailed model.
Besides the UCS playsets with all the play features and figures, these iconic ships need to have that extra sheen like you said. Something that makes is unique to any of its smaller versions through the years.
I can’t lie, there’s definitely still improvements to be made, but like come on it’s MILES better than the 2013 version and honestly I’ll take that, definitely picking it up will make a brilliant display piece!
The wings on the new X-Wing model sag like crazy, so I still prefer the 2013 model personally. Yes, I know about the stickered canopy, but tbh, I just made a brick built canopy that looks so much better than even the printed piece on the new X-Wing. Lego should have kept the smaller engine size on the new model so that the wings did not weigh so much and ruin the design, which in turn ruins the whole set since it has no good displayability without putting unnecessary stress on it's rubber bands, which the 2013 model had none of for it's mechanism need I remind you.
@@noahpatterson5430 true the new model used rubber bands but they’re used in a way that’s put barely any stress on them in well almost any position if you actually look at inside. Also the wings barely sag when in the X-shape I’ve had it in the same position for maybe 8 months and I genuinely cannot tell the difference or if it’s dropped even the slightest it looks new
The cockpit has printed pieces this time. The plaque is also printed, but it shows the injection mark on the front. For the photos it was rendered without the mark.
"I am still getting it anyways" - there you go. No need to put effort in, if people buy it no matter what.
Show me any other LEGO X-wing at this scale that we can buy now / soon. Not 10 years from now. Is it illegal to criticize the set but also want it in the collection? I am allowed to express my criticism in hope the next starfighter model will be more accurate. The X-wing is my favorite one, hence me voicing my criticism.
@@TheCoolFactor All I am saying is that Lego doesn't care. The only criticism they understand is getting no money. But good for you if you enjoy the X-wing. Guess the cockpit and other flaws will be fixed by the moc community in no time.
Really wish LEGO would just do super detailed minifigure scale sets like the MOCs the community makes. The Millennium Falcon and Slave I were basically that and those were incredible. The ones that are just heavily scaled up with standard building techniques are just disappointing.
You can see the sides of the nose slant outwards from front to back.
I also love the 5 red stripes. The rear looks better than the 2013 version.
It's better proportioned. I see a lot of pro's on this set.
Lego really should have made a new uniquely shaped transparent canopy piece to better capture the angles of the X-Wing cockpit. Reusing the old one just makes it look off especially when Mike mentioned the straight lines of the fuselage against the canopy being totally wrong for this redesign. We know Lego can do better and they should have here. At least the engines are bigger and more proportional.
Jang has a great video previewing this set, and comparing this to the 2013 model. Anyone who thinks this is worse is being blissfully ignorant. That's all I'm going to say.
I would like you to respect the fact that people have free and subjective opinions and calling anyone ignorant because of their opinion on an expensive product is rude at the least. I did not say it is a worse model than the 2013 version. I said it is not much of an -improvement-. The engines are better proportions but the front remains inaccurate. Please listen to my opinion before commenting, thanks.
@@TheCoolFactor All you've seen are a few pictures. Your opinion is based on very little information and isn't well-informed. I don't buy into this notion that all opinions are valid or equal. Some people think the Earth is flat and they're morons. See what I mean...? Watch Jang's video and you'll see that there are many improvements. People are looking at the 2013 set through nostalgia-tinted glasses. Also, it's Lego. You want accurate? Buy a model kit. Bandai makes some very good ones.
@@rbaldino Did you just compare an opinion on a toy model to validating a conspiracy theory...? I have different opinions than Jang and try not to get too influenced by what others are saying about LEGO products. A have a great deal of respect to Jang and call him a friend but trying to force me to base my own takes on his (or anyone else's, for that matter) is a bit too much. I am informed and opinionated based on what I see on the pictures and how I feel about the looks of the ship. I do not own the 2013 version and did not have a chance to buy it at MSRP. I reserve the possibility that once I hold the model in my hands, my opinion might change but for the time being what you are seeing is my first impression and my feelings towards the model. Again, subjective.
@@rbaldino Also, if I wanted Bandai, I would buy Bandai. I am an AFOL, first and foremost.
@@TheCoolFactor I was illustrating the fact that not all opinions are equal. Opinions are not sacred. They are not without flaws. Just constantly stating that your opinion is subjective does not shield it from being challenged. One of your complaints is that the set is not "accurate." That's not a subjective judgement. You are objectively comparing it to something else, in this case the design of the actual model used in the film. And objectively, this set is closer to the actual film version. To claim otherwise is, like I said, blissfully ignorant. I'm not telling you to base your opinion on Jang's. I'm telling you to base your opinion on the evidence presented in his video, which he based his opinion on. In short, all opinions should be based on the best information possible. If your opinion is based on a just a few pictures and his is based on a much deeper analysis, his opinion, his conclusion, is more valid than yours. Like I said, opinions aren't sacred. In fact, there's kind of an old saying about opinions...
I think looking for 100% film accuracy is really asking for too much. The vast majority of Lego pieces are completely or partially rectangular in shape, that is going to come with unavoidable limitations.
We can't expect Lego to produce sets that are both structurally stable and 100% accurate and it's unreasonable to expect this. 100% accurate is also pointless endeavor when, and I say this as a huge Star Wars fan, 99.99% of fans won't notice a minor detail that's missing or slightly off-model.
I don’t think we need 100% accuracy but I do think Lego could have done better with the overall shape especially in regards to the cockpit and nose. I think the set is too expensive and too large to not be a near perfect replica
Jerac managed to pull it off with his design!
General kenobi
Thanks for the comment! I am not asking for a 100% accuracy. But the nose, which takes pretty much 50% of the entirety of the model, is an important piece to at least try to get closer to what it looks like in the lore. It has angles that are important to capture and never really been done right before in official LEGO sets. They captured the A-wing so well at this scale, for example! At such a large scale, and seeing how LEGO can design other models, such an iconic starship should at least incorporate some of these angles and not go for the easier, straight design solution.
@@TheCoolFactor maybe in 10 years will get another one done well 😅 But you're totally right - if they could replicate the curvet angles of the Ferrari SP3, then it shouldn't be a problem with the rectangular ones in this set.
The minifig R2-D2 behind the cockpit looks silly and is my biggest issue. We have a 3x3 dome piece and they've already made a 4x4 dome piece with the R2-D2 print with a previous May 4th promo 30611.
I like this over the last UCS X-wing, but $240 is steep. The A-wing was $200 and based on what I'm seeing there's more to it.
You’re paying for the mini figure + inflation
The wings are too small concerning to the engines. The front piece looks awful. I agree totally. The goos thing is, the moccer will improve their models.
00:51 that’s what TLG seems to be counting on with sets likes this and the UCS Luke’s Land speeder last year. The “I don’t want it but I will get it” sales angle. Don’t get it, that way LEGO might learn the way they have done with the UCS Hulkbuster or Black Panther bust.
01:10 Yep. I mean the Land Rover classic defender has more pieces (and more VIP points) for the same price. And it’s a reasonable comparison IMHO given they are both AFOL focused sets with big IP attached to them.
03:14 yeah the engine size looks better but the wings now look too small to me.
Really what I think LEGO should’ve done with this as a UCS set is rather than do a big X-wing, to a perfectly minifigure scaled version. As you said there are so amazing MOC X wings in minifigure scale which replicate the ship much better. And in order to bring the piece count up to a UCS point do like the aforementioned Land Rover set or the delorean set- include extra parts and pieces to turn it from Luke’s red 5 as seen ANH, then have accessories to make it look like it does in ESB where it’s cover in moss and swamp vines.
Either that or just go bigger with the UCS set and don’t try and put minifigures/R2s inside it.
Right, it really annoys me that people say they don't like it but will still get it. Vote with your wallets
@@Shorjok People are too addicted to do that.
I wish they'd stop doing these giant ucs sets; they should do their collector series models with speed champions details and at minifig scale.
Underwhelming set. Doesn't seem like a clever use of parts at all
I got a feeling that once you buy it and build it, you'll like it a lot more.
I definitely reserve the right to change my opinion once I hold the model. This is a mere first impression based on pictures that don't even show all the angles and details.
Also the build experience is equally important to me. The X-wings are know for a lot of repetition given the design so I wonder how fun or not the model will be to build.
Does it not have landing gear? I didn't see them in any of the shots. The old UCS X-wing did and so did the UCS Y-wing.
The stars are a call back to the previous ucs set
You're going to get it but you don't like it? I swear Lego Star Wars fans are part of the reason Lego feels they can rip us off and sell bad/average sets for more than they're worth. These people buy any crap that comes out with the Star Wars logo on it and then act shocked when Lego continues to do it
This is right now the only UCS X-wing in existence that I can get. And I can express that I don't like it very much considering how long we waited and how other models where improved so much over the years. X-wing is my favorite starship and I always wanted one, that's why it's so bitter sweet.
@@TheCoolFactor Then look elsewhere... Buy a moc. Buy a non-lego model.
I have the 2013 version, and though it's not perfect, this one doesn't "WOW!" me enough to consider purchasing it. I have both R2D2 UCS sets. While I like the 2012 set, the 2021 set had enough improvements that actually made it worth purchasing.
Not to mention the cockpit mold is completely wrong - it should get thinner towards the front, not wider. Plus those tiles added behind the "tip" of the nose look terrible. I made these points on reddit and had people argue with me that UCS sets aren't meant to be 100% accurate 🙄There's a difference between it not being 100% accurate, and it being plain *wrong*
If anything, the UCS is the only LEGO that is SUPPOSED to get as close as possible to the on-screen models. Simplification is accepted in playsets but UCS needs to provide that accuracy value at that price.
haha, glad I have 2 Red Squadron X-Wings in my backlog I picked up on clearance :P and TLG seems to have laid off their designers for their boxes, hot mess packaging and manual covers,
The better Lego gets the more entitled and ungrateful Lego fans get. I mean, cmon, box art? Who gives a ****?
They’ve finally got big engines, it’s a big improvement. The nose has angled sides, another big improvement. It is crazy to complain it doesn’t thicken in every angle.
I think Lego fans need to take a deep breath and reflect on how great these sets have got.
Lol, have you seen Jerac's X wing?
@@capetorch MOC builders can use techniques Lego never could. You can’t compare MOCs to Lego products that have to be buildable for regular people and robust in a way MOCs frequently are not.
Google for a review of Jerac’s model and you get passages like this that underline how MOCs are totally different to lego sets:
“However, somewhere around the last one-third of this build, things started to get a little tricky. One step, in particular, had me cursing Jerac instead of praising him when I had to squeeze the sides of the cockpit in. This was such a tight fit requiring a lot of force that I ended up knocking several pieces off and had to reattach them in the aftermath.
From there, things only got slightly better. There were several more steps requiring fragile pieces to be squeezed into tight spaces for detailing.”
Yeah, but it's a smaller build. I imagine for the UCS scale you could build something even better!
It's 40 bucks more and still not as impressive as I expect at this point.
Saying you can't criticize it is dumb.
It's honestly really ugly. My 2020 play scale model looks better than this one and it's not even as good as the 2018 play scale model
You can definitely feel the disappointment in this reveal, which is really unfortunate for those who really do want a UCS X Wing model on display. I'm more or less indifferent, as these larger USC styled sets aren't really targeted towards me as a collector. Subjectively I'm still really happy with the 2018 smaller release of the X Wing which more or less has the same design, opening wing feature which still for the most part works great. That, and this Canadian will probably be upwards $300 and for that amount I think either last years Landspeeder or even this years Land Rover are much more interesting builds/display vehicles. None the less looking forward to the review on the channel, and here's hoping it's a better model in hand than it presents itself.
To me this x-wing is too big and too expensive to not be almost perfect. There are plenty of minifig scale Mocs that look much more accurate to the Movie. And that minifig R2-D2 behind the cockpit looks silly and is my biggest issue. in my opinion , Would have Perfered something Else too be honest. Really Wish i got that 2013 UCS X-Wing, But that was when i was getting Back into The Lego Hobbie from My childhood.
R2-D2 is way too small. If Luke’s minifig doesn’t look right in the cockpit, R2 is too small and this is exactly the case. They should have brought back the printed dome piece from the R2-D2 Polybag to put behind the cockpit but still included the fig of him. No-one would have complained
I actually like this set...but 2 major flaws are flipper pcs used for the lasers and that horrible nose build!
Neither the engines nor wings touch when colapsed. The nose is too tick and the cockpit should be angles with the nosecone...
Still waiting on a separatist UCS set…
I own the 2000 and 2013 UCS X Wing’s and also have jerrac’s version as well and all of them are great but still are off proportionally same with new version . What I don’t get is why you would go for a set if it’s that bad, why not just get the one you like or wait for another UCS version down the line that would do it better? 😂
Another UCS of this is probably 10-15 years away. ;/
Auf der Box sind die Flügel zu weit geöffnet und das sieht gruselig aus.
Deshalb hoffe ich das stufenlos verstellbar sind
Ok no you are correctly, its totally mid
At the end of the day Lego doesn't care what you or anybody thinks! The set will sell no matter what, deal with it!
Oh, they listen and they care. Just not... consistently and for some reason they don't seem to listen to much feedback in the Star Wars line.
Also, "deal with it?" Is it 2012 or something?
It’s a MEH for me
❤ I agree 100%. In this day and age, there is no reason that Lego should not get that shape, right. They’ve never gotten it right and this was their chance.
To me this x-wing is too big and too expensive to not be almost perfect. There are plenty of minifig scale Mocs that look much more accurate. The cockpit, nose and r2d2 are the biggest issues with this set.
I am glad I got the old one in parts I could put it together but it’s all in a bin Along with 40 other sets from back in the day Star Wars Lego sets but I must say this set here is not worth getting other then to say that I have it and maybe put two or three away because if I put it together I won’t be happy I know this so no I won’t be getting one unless it’s used and cheap to do myself I can wait as well till it goes on sale cheap and buy a few I am doing that with the land speeder now
It looks like the proportions are off. The cockpit just looks wierd. and the windscreen is at the wrong angle. And agree that R2 looks goofy. They need a larger dome to make it look accurate.
I had many of the same thoughts when the first images came out. There are still some flaws, as always, but having seen this set built in the Lego store I can certainly say it looks a whole lot better in person
Mike I am so glad you said all this - finally some who sees this for what it is. Bad. I have a number if issues, not the least of which is the wingspan is too short. The wings are too short for the fuselage. Also, the X is far too pronounced - the X-Wings in the movie never have them open that far. As well, the wings touch, i.e., close completely when closed not a huge gap! The nose sucks. R2 is WAY out of scale. Also, while the plaque is printed, one phots shows a mold dimple, like on the Ferrari Daytona, on the plaque. This is unacceptable for a $320 CAN set! Lego will not get my money for this!
Ik this is very late idk if you still think that, but the main reason for the limited wing length is to you can have it positioned at all angles on the stand and if they were longer they would be bent up because they would extend farther than the stand
I've waited a long time for a new x wing ucs version missed out on original but not sure I'm willing to pay 240 bucks for a set I don't feel I must have as this looks shitty for a ucs set in my opinion.
That's a UCS set? Could've fooled me
I have the first UCS X wing and it looks better
At some point, improvements slow down
Or even stop. People are too negative. Its fine looking. Wont be buying, cause i have the two older ones
yeah do yourself a favour and pick up the 2000 vertion if you can. it's by FAR the best version.
It’s just ugly. The studs and tiles clash terribly. Lego has made mostly snot models that work really well, and also more traditional studded models that also work well. This x wing is just a visual mess. And the angles are so off especially that nose-who thought of that
I don't know but this doesn't look proportional
I agree, when I first saw this set, I though it was way to bulky and round.
Plus the engines are too big
Let's keep buying the same sets over and over so that Lego won't stretch their catalog of ideas with different ships and keep giving us the same thing instead of something completely different. 🙄
We're getting a UCS Venator and a new Gunship soon so I would say LEGO is not locked in at remaking legacy trilogy sets.
@@TheCoolFactor Yeah that's true. I'm just tired of seeing X-Wings and Landspeeders. 😄
I love it
You want a movie acurate model? Buy a model kit. You want a LEGO set X-Wing, buy this. Also, this set isn't for you, re-releases are for people who don't want to pay 3x 4x on BL for the older sets.
Isn't the point of UCS sets meant to be Ultimate Collector Sets with higher accuracy and larger scale than the normal Lego sets?
Also, this isn't even a re-release. It's a new set that was redesigned from the ground up. Even comparing it to the older UCS, it doesn't have similar angles, has different greebling, different scale with the wings, etc.
If the point of UCS was re-releasing sets, why even redesign it? Why make anything new? They could just re-release stuff over and over without innovation, new pieces, new building techniques, plates, brackets, studs, minifigures, and so on. Lego should just stick to making wooden ducks.
Lego admittedly has tons of leniency regarding its models and sets because it's intended for kids and so on, but UCS isn't meant for kids. It's meant to be a MORE accurate model than their main lego sets, hence the higher price barrier they have had.
It’s almost like a £210, 18+, large display set should be more accurate to the real thing
I expect UCS line to be as detail-driven and movie-accurate as possible. And having a completely wrong shaped front at this scale is something I will criticize. We are paying pretty penny for these. The A-wing had more accurate and sleek design. Sure, I could go for a Bandai X-wing but in LEGO the UCS line is supposed to represent the highest end model. This one doesn't seem that way.
Um... No.. If you want a lego x-wing, you buy the 40 dollar one. this is a display model kit
Have to say this build looks so trash! Really dont need to add a third one to my UCS collection either. If you're going to make a 3rd it needs to be top quality
I cant buy that knowing there are scuba fins on the guns
To be fair to old LEGO X-Wings, they did have to create new rounded pieces for both this set and the previous X-Wing so getting the engines correct before was a lot harder.
To many studs in the sides
they nailed it. but unfortunately they used the $50 version as reference.
This is exactly right
I'm extremely disappointed! 😖 There are so many wrong solutions on this x-wing I don't even know where to start! If you want a great looking x-wing, buy Jerac's instructions instead! 😉👍🏼
I agree
I had a chance to get a new 2013 model for like 200$ but I didn't when herd there will be a new one this year. So glad I waited! I didn't;t like a lot of things in that 2013 set, and I do think this one is better. It is ideal? Hell No! I'm totally agree that the body is too bulky and the nose is too big, but this still looks better than the plane one in 2013.
And why couldn't they make a large R2 dome like they did for Obi Wan's Starfigher.
The minifig R2 looks stupid put in there. Just dumb to make a slot for it. Just have R2 on the display stand with Luke.
And yes, the box art is meh. For such an iconic ship in all of sci-fi, looks so simple the packaging.
YES, the picture on the box is angled wrongly. It makes the third edition look blocky and two dimensional 🤷🏼♂️ Not impressive, will stick to my MkII
I really agree
Was waiting for this to come out again, but pretty disapointed having seen that. I really thought they would get their poodoo together for this one, or why even bother to re release it? Nowdays people doing MOC's now are just putting these lego designers to shame, and its still looking like by far the best way to build a decent xwing in 2023
This may have been mentioned but the wings are maybe two studs too short. They look stubby to me. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for the upgrades people come up with to address some of these design issues. Those seem to be all the rage now, instead of complaining and not doing anything about it, they set to work fixing, love that.
…..forget to say it, but I fully agree in your assessment. Well said, good job! 👍🏻🇩🇰👏🏻
If I get it I may modify the droid port to make r2 stick out a bit more for it to possibly work
Another X-Wing. Sigh. The X-Wing is like the Landspeeder. A visit to the well once too often until it's dried up. How many X-Wings do we need? And if we buy this one they'll just come out with yet another one rendering this one obsolete and outdated. I'm tired of Lego repeating the same things over and over which is why I rarely buy Star Wars sets anymore.
It's a good thing it exist but really should've been better. 10 years is a fair time for a remake. UCS Venator is coming so that shows LEGO is willing to after new models.
How long are you into Lego? I started collecting exactly 10 years ago and didn't have the money for 2013 version, so I'm very glad to have this one. There are hundreds, if not thousands of new Lego fans itch year, so you can speak only for yourself.
@@adrianprepelita8683 True, but for long time collectors, it's disappointing to see the same sets constantly popping up over and over with just a few modifications from the one before. It makes you feel like an idiot for spending the money on the last one and makes you realize you wasted your money. It makes one question the worth of buying them at all.
@@outsider238 Ya, but there will be new sets this year, so both camps can be happy)
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I completely agree. This is the easiest NON-purchase I ever made during May the 4th. I’ll save my money for something far better looking.