I had one where the Protoss player offensive gg’d and kept questioning me about why I’m not leaving a game I’ve lost and ended up winning man it was the BEST FEELING
Oh wow, so happy to be featured in a video, thank you Pig! As a long time fan and subscriber, love your content, especially the Bronze to GM series has been of great help. P.s. as a 3600 Zerg being called at least Masters is like the best compliment I've received in my entire life lol
you'll surely climb there, you play solid. much better than many masters. People really overestimate the significance of ranks, there are so many who can only cheese and got to masters
Wow, hat is off to that zerg player that got cannon rushed. He calmly and methodically played it out. Nydus worm into the opponents main to ruin his income was great. I was thinking dropper lord to a corner base myself.
I was thinking of Nydus'ing drones/army out, but it's the same idea. If the opponent drops over 2k resources on a spot that early, you can expand 3 times and rebuild all your tech for an "even" trade.
One can argue that the zerg player didn't make the best decisions, but I think that makes it even more impressive. Even as his attempts to bust the proxy wall-in initially failed, the zerg player doesn't throw a fit.
@@volkspanzer8444 i dont know if it was the decision-making or the micro. I dont think banelings are a good response to a cannon rush or proxy, i think roach/ravager is 1000x better, but it probably wouldve worked just fine if hed microed the first bust attempt better. But at least for me, biles are easier.
Word to Hanoid. Peter of the String had an absolute paddy. Such wanton and unadulterated venom is seldom witnessed. I reveled in good winning over evil more than normal on this one!
Pig, I was laughing seeing how long it would take you to figure out that the failed cheeser was going to be the rager :) Thanks for the episode man, these are always fun. It's people who inspired this series to who give gamers a bad rep, I'm glad you're here to show them who they really are.
Not sure if it was this one or the last one but my favorite one of these is the one where the Protoss scouts a pool first and IMMEDIATELY types “CANCER!!” Shit had my dying
That first guy... what a piece of work. It's ironic that the possibility of a player scouting a stargate then anticipating an oracle heading for their mineral line is so inconceiveable to him, so far beyond his own abilty, that he declares hacks... and then proceeds to start talking about degrees. Really pathetic.
It is funny seeing how rude texts throw people off their game. Just looking at the first game, nothing stopped terran from going deep and see whats up... It was just the bad mouthing that stopped the Terran dominion on its tracks :D The second game...you can wreck your own game with your own stupid texting :D 3rd game...... TvT with one orbital, total :D
My friend’s parents regularly thought I was an adult lying about my age and hanging with thirteen year olds til they met my parents in person and realized my family contains giants.
When I get angry in SC2, I just do a drone rush in my next game. Today it had the hilarious result of making my opponent go afk for the entire game, so I decided it was a good time to practice mass Ravager play where I biled the CC to death.
My younger son turned 13 a month ago. At his party were 5 other boys his age. 4 of them, and my son, were between 5'0" and 5'3" (154 - 160cm). One was 6'3" (190cm).
Genetics dose play a factor but, it's all about how you train and practice. Kobe was good not only because he had talent but, his dedication to training is what really set him apart from everyone.
At game start guesses: 1: lol because it has to be one of them and I'm thinking of that insincere laughter people do when they want to pretend they aren't taking the game seriously, but then take it weirdly seriously. 2: stringfellow. Just leaning toward the person with words in their name. 3: Snake. Only because I'd hope someone with cheese in their name is too jaded to wild games to still be getting mad at any of them. 4: Magna. Kinda rooting for the underdog because that would make this comment less mediocre if I'm right :D (but any reasonable person should guess GrumpyDwarf) After game commentary: 1: What the heck? Too mad for even pretending to laugh holy geez. 2. I'm glad I made that guess at game start because I absolutely changed my mind during it. 3: ...I was proven wrong even before I was done typing up my reasoning. 4: The moment I saw the Hatch cancel, I knew I guessed wrong haha.
The idea people in silver/gold throw out insults pertaining to intelligence is actually hilarious since you can easily get to diamond now just learning 1 good build order.
@parishala ok. Idk the ranges of canons vs creep tumors. But I was thinking a tumor on the right would have limited the ability to create that choke point, or prevent higher hit point buildings from being built in front of the canons. I did realize he was being very efficient with inject and his queens had no extra energy to make tumors when I thought of it
To be honest... I needed a couple of years of playing to realize that building to depot to stop a scouting probe and then building extra barracks right in sight was not a good idea!
in the first game, it's obvious that the terran saw the oracle with his reaper (it flew over the reaper) and placed the mine where it would appear. Some people, man..
Honestly, games like that would just be a change of pace for some. The long-haul macro games have to get old at some point. Bring on the cheese! uThermal lost to his own planetary cheese and he was laughing his ass off.
Depending on the sport, yes, it objectively isn't fair. Easiest example is chess, where white has a half pawn advantage because they move first. It's significant enough at a high level that they often play 2 games, with the players switching sides to make it fairer. Another option is tennis, where the person who serves has an advantage, because they are in control of the ball from the start. Usually in team sport's the actual strenght of the team isn't considered as much, because at high levels the teams tend to be fairly similar, and it's a question of playing around the areas where the enemy team has that slight advantage, such as avoiding scums in rugby when you know the opponent has more muscle in the scrum, and playing to yours, like forcing scums when you know you have more muscle in them.
The player that sits in their base and considers any contact with an opponent the highest of treason. I refer to these as Outlaws. Outlaws is the first mission in the campaign that gives you control of a Command Center and new players will just sit in it and learn the game. I'm coining the term, who's in?
The reason toss was going for corner bases in first game is to confirm terran was hacking. Terran did find them right as cannons went down both times so a bit sus.
The thing about sports for me is influenced by my time playing chess in tournaments. In those, you have some control over how tough you want it. At big events, I would always play the Open divisions and willingly take on impossible matches without a care. But in class restricted tournaments, the expectation was that everyone would be within a general rating range and smurfs were hated universally. StarCraft ladder (and other ladder games) pretends to be class divided and in reality the players have less morals or sportsmanship, so they subvert the ladder as a matter of course and people just have to deal with it. Subversion of expectations causes a lot of salt.
imagine situation, when you are "being salty", but not giving up and winning game, and there is no justice for you... imagine i've written this before seeing mehanoid victory
Calling someone a rat is kind popular with south American gamers, Peruvians in particular, because of the meme "rat kid" (niño rata), and it basically equates to calling someone a scrub , so , long story short I'm sure this guy is just your average salty Peruvian
Sport is fair because everybody gets an equal opportunity. You may argue that life isn't fair because some people are better at sport than others, but that's entirely different argument
I was also taller than the rest but it was not a great advantage. People my age didn’t want to relate with me and people my size thought I was very immature (which was true- they assumed I was 2 or 3 years older than I was)
It's funny because I do actually play sport and you totally tilt in the same ways and actually the other day I found myself getting really wound up about the game being unfair (our team was just worse than the other team and it wasn't very fun because of it and I was getting very frustrated because it was unfair). I guess the point there though is not that we lost, its that I just felt like there wasn't really a game to have fun with because we had no answer for their team. That's often how sc feels. I've struggled with lurkers since forever and even knowing how to counter them and what you're supposed to do, I'll still be doing ok in a game and mismicro some ghosts once and lose them all, but now I know that it's just my mistake that cost me the game, not any kind of imbalance, whereas when I didn't know how to counter them before, I felt the same feeling I felt during that sports game. Its just unfair what am I supposed to do about this, but in sports its totally valid to say, well you're just better/ bigger/ stronger than me so there is no point in us competing. Just like weight classes/ gender separation etc. The goal is to make the game even and when it feels uneven, it stops being fun. The realisation though is that it's not your opponents fault, but yours helps you to redirect the anger. Accepting that you're imperfect and can improve, whether at Sc, sports or even life in general , and that failing is just an opportunity to improve has massively changed my outlook on things.
Every game, every sport is a test to see which side is stronger, so no they're never balanced. If the game was TRUELY fair...every game would end in a tie.
Hi Pig. You are always talking about low APM like it matters? Im sure you know that APM basically says nothing? Most Players with high APM are just spamming or doing stuff with their APM thats not helpful.... I like your vids, its just irritating for me when "Pros" are talking about APM to people from mostly the metal-leagues 🙂 Thanks for your funny Content and wish you all good things. Greetings from Germany 🙂
If you look at his b2gm series, you'll see he is very aware of this. But occasionally it naturally increases because you realize you are doing more things that matter because you need less time to realize the correct reaction to a situation you are looking at. And never forget to macro between, before and after your fights. 😁
@@Mechator_Rex Thats absolute true. I think just that he´s talking about it a little too much ^^ many people watching this are in the "lower" leagues i think... and maybe some of them get the false assumption that APM matters in low leagues :-) just my thoughts ^^
Stop stealing good air - a decent person could breathe is the best insult I have ever heard. I mean it was totally uncalled for, but some day when it is called for, I will steal it and use it.
@@pirds102010 They can be used if you are unsure of the genderof a perosn and thus don't want to use he or she. It has been in used this way since the 19th century.
@@p_serdiukwe were talking about variation in human bodies though? Then again you're talking about "virtue signaling" so I don't think I should engage more than that
@@Laezar1 We were talking about unfair advantages. Having a body that has way more androgens in it than the opponents do on average is an unfair advantage because of their anabolic activity. Whether those androgens are synthetic or natural is irrelevant. And there is an entire list of other varieties of doping agents that are prohibited. Otherwise, yes, there is some natural variation between people.
Props to MiHanoid. Winning those games is the best feeling in all of StarCraft.
That is so true. I usually never shit talk or reacting to bm players but in such rare scenarios I cant resist and bm them even after the game
I had one where the Protoss player offensive gg’d and kept questioning me about why I’m not leaving a game I’ve lost and ended up winning man it was the BEST FEELING
It really really is lol
but mihanoid lost don't you see? he was losing, so he lost! imba race! amove! lazy strat! reeeeeeeee!!!!
Oh wow, so happy to be featured in a video, thank you Pig! As a long time fan and subscriber, love your content, especially the Bronze to GM series has been of great help.
P.s. as a 3600 Zerg being called at least Masters is like the best compliment I've received in my entire life lol
What a cathartic victory, nicely done! :)
you'll surely climb there, you play solid. much better than many masters. People really overestimate the significance of ranks, there are so many who can only cheese and got to masters
It was so satisfying to see! Good job!
Congrats - that was really beautiful!
All glory to you man. Way to beat that pos.
The adrenaline rush he got from that "not rebuilt their base" message must have felt like a tsunami. Outstanding persistence.
Love that the toss says “get cancer” IMMEDIATELY loses an oracle to a mine lmao
me when i offrace as toss
Salt mines is allways a pleasent thing to watch on a lazy sunday
He even flew the Oracle OVER the Reaper at the start of the game. Jesus christ xD
And ran the reaper past the stargate AS IT WAS MAKING AN ORACLE lmao
Wow, hat is off to that zerg player that got cannon rushed. He calmly and methodically played it out. Nydus worm into the opponents main to ruin his income was great. I was thinking dropper lord to a corner base myself.
I was thinking of Nydus'ing drones/army out, but it's the same idea. If the opponent drops over 2k resources on a spot that early, you can expand 3 times and rebuild all your tech for an "even" trade.
One can argue that the zerg player didn't make the best decisions, but I think that makes it even more impressive. Even as his attempts to bust the proxy wall-in initially failed, the zerg player doesn't throw a fit.
@@volkspanzer8444 i dont know if it was the decision-making or the micro. I dont think banelings are a good response to a cannon rush or proxy, i think roach/ravager is 1000x better, but it probably wouldve worked just fine if hed microed the first bust attempt better.
But at least for me, biles are easier.
Word to Hanoid. Peter of the String had an absolute paddy. Such wanton and unadulterated venom is seldom witnessed. I reveled in good winning over evil more than normal on this one!
Honestly my favorite series that you do. This and the florencio, ruff and that cannon rusher dude games.
Printf
Pretty sure "go ok" is another one of those "insert a space to avoid the censors" situations
That was my favourite PvZ i have ever seen. Just utter insanity from the protos, and some great nydus play from the zerg.
So satisfying. I salute you MiHanoid.
11:00 Random aside, that mid-explosion oracle looks really pretty.
Pig, I was laughing seeing how long it would take you to figure out that the failed cheeser was going to be the rager :)
Thanks for the episode man, these are always fun. It's people who inspired this series to who give gamers a bad rep, I'm glad you're here to show them who they really are.
Not sure if it was this one or the last one but my favorite one of these is the one where the Protoss scouts a pool first and IMMEDIATELY types “CANCER!!” Shit had my dying
9:17 How about Salt Ostrich? Buries itself to the neck in salt and has no idea what is going on around it.
Oh man, the glory of mihanoid. Way to win against that pos.
25:50 "It's an artist's impersonation of a macro game" is a really good line @PiGstarcraft
pretty sure the Go ok at 31:06 is supposed to be the slur
I haven’t heard that slur since like 2009.
That first guy... what a piece of work. It's ironic that the possibility of a player scouting a stargate then anticipating an oracle heading for their mineral line is so inconceiveable to him, so far beyond his own abilty, that he declares hacks... and then proceeds to start talking about degrees. Really pathetic.
Major Cheese is aiming for an unceremonious demotion to 2nd Lieutenant
It is funny seeing how rude texts throw people off their game. Just looking at the first game, nothing stopped terran from going deep and see whats up... It was just the bad mouthing that stopped the Terran dominion on its tracks :D
The second game...you can wreck your own game with your own stupid texting :D
3rd game...... TvT with one orbital, total :D
I died at "an artist's impersonation of a macro game"
My friend’s parents regularly thought I was an adult lying about my age and hanging with thirteen year olds til they met my parents in person and realized my family contains giants.
31:00 welcome back Gilbert Gottfried
When I get angry in SC2, I just do a drone rush in my next game. Today it had the hilarious result of making my opponent go afk for the entire game, so I decided it was a good time to practice mass Ravager play where I biled the CC to death.
My younger son turned 13 a month ago. At his party were 5 other boys his age. 4 of them, and my son, were between 5'0" and 5'3" (154 - 160cm). One was 6'3" (190cm).
I was scrolling by very quickly and thought that you had said your 13 month-old son was 6 foot 3. O-O
9:17 PiG just decribed Atrosis pretty well.
from what i can tell as someone who has never watched him, yeah
Love this series.. reminds me that i'm not the only one that gets a ton of hate on ladder lmao
Feels like if he's near enough to a truck to get run over, it's not likely to be in a place where he'd be stealing *good* air.
"it was a Master's game for sure" 😂
congrajulashons Mihanoid. I'm crying and clapping.
He did see the first oracle with his reaper, so he had an idea where it will enter the base
Love the salt mines
Man that 2nd game was so enjoyable!
MiHanoid, the hero we needed.
I tip my hat to MiHanoid. Well played, friend. Well played.
Second game was pure gold for my soul
Whats funnier is when people get emotional and gamble a bunch of money on watching grown men chase after a ball
I was hoping Mihaanoid would use the naidyus worm to send drones to the other side of the map and get like 4 expansions xD
Getting warcraft 3 flashbacks of all those orc tower rushers
Feel like the first guy is your average Avilo fan
This was a good one!
Genetics dose play a factor but, it's all about how you train and practice. Kobe was good not only because he had talent but, his dedication to training is what really set him apart from everyone.
At game start guesses:
1: lol because it has to be one of them and I'm thinking of that insincere laughter people do when they want to pretend they aren't taking the game seriously, but then take it weirdly seriously.
2: stringfellow. Just leaning toward the person with words in their name.
3: Snake. Only because I'd hope someone with cheese in their name is too jaded to wild games to still be getting mad at any of them.
4: Magna. Kinda rooting for the underdog because that would make this comment less mediocre if I'm right :D (but any reasonable person should guess GrumpyDwarf)
After game commentary:
1: What the heck? Too mad for even pretending to laugh holy geez.
2. I'm glad I made that guess at game start because I absolutely changed my mind during it.
3: ...I was proven wrong even before I was done typing up my reasoning.
4: The moment I saw the Hatch cancel, I knew I guessed wrong haha.
The idea people in silver/gold throw out insults pertaining to intelligence is actually hilarious since you can easily get to diamond now just learning 1 good build order.
I don't play enough vs to know, but would creep spread have been a good move for MiHanoid to block the wall off?
Cannons would have shut down any meaningful creep spread at the front.
@parishala ok. Idk the ranges of canons vs creep tumors. But I was thinking a tumor on the right would have limited the ability to create that choke point, or prevent higher hit point buildings from being built in front of the canons. I did realize he was being very efficient with inject and his queens had no extra energy to make tumors when I thought of it
To be honest... I needed a couple of years of playing to realize that building to depot to stop a scouting probe and then building extra barracks right in sight was not a good idea!
in the first game, it's obvious that the terran saw the oracle with his reaper (it flew over the reaper) and placed the mine where it would appear. Some people, man..
Just gotta appreciate MiHanoid I would've raged so hard if I was that Zerg
Honestly, games like that would just be a change of pace for some. The long-haul macro games have to get old at some point. Bring on the cheese! uThermal lost to his own planetary cheese and he was laughing his ass off.
Depending on the sport, yes, it objectively isn't fair. Easiest example is chess, where white has a half pawn advantage because they move first. It's significant enough at a high level that they often play 2 games, with the players switching sides to make it fairer.
Another option is tennis, where the person who serves has an advantage, because they are in control of the ball from the start.
Usually in team sport's the actual strenght of the team isn't considered as much, because at high levels the teams tend to be fairly similar, and it's a question of playing around the areas where the enemy team has that slight advantage, such as avoiding scums in rugby when you know the opponent has more muscle in the scrum, and playing to yours, like forcing scums when you know you have more muscle in them.
The player that sits in their base and considers any contact with an opponent the highest of treason. I refer to these as Outlaws. Outlaws is the first mission in the campaign that gives you control of a Command Center and new players will just sit in it and learn the game. I'm coining the term, who's in?
The reason toss was going for corner bases in first game is to confirm terran was hacking. Terran did find them right as cannons went down both times so a bit sus.
The thing about sports for me is influenced by my time playing chess in tournaments. In those, you have some control over how tough you want it. At big events, I would always play the Open divisions and willingly take on impossible matches without a care. But in class restricted tournaments, the expectation was that everyone would be within a general rating range and smurfs were hated universally.
StarCraft ladder (and other ladder games) pretends to be class divided and in reality the players have less morals or sportsmanship, so they subvert the ladder as a matter of course and people just have to deal with it. Subversion of expectations causes a lot of salt.
imagine situation, when you are "being salty", but not giving up and winning game, and there is no justice for you... imagine i've written this before seeing mehanoid victory
Cheesers are not known for their knowledge of the game past the 4 minute mark
Pig @ 31:09 is meme material x-DD
Calling someone a rat is kind popular with south American gamers, Peruvians in particular, because of the meme "rat kid" (niño rata), and it basically equates to calling someone a scrub , so , long story short I'm sure this guy is just your average salty Peruvian
I... I got angry from just watching that lol
Was expecting a third base from the nydus in the second game.
All I do is stim, put yo rax in the air! ;D
The stringfellow name is a play on sprintf.
Sport is fair because everybody gets an equal opportunity.
You may argue that life isn't fair because some people are better at sport than others, but that's entirely different argument
I was also taller than the rest but it was not a great advantage. People my age didn’t want to relate with me and people my size thought I was very immature (which was true- they assumed I was 2 or 3 years older than I was)
Blue terran plays normally. protoss: get cancer LOoWwL
Tempo - All I do is stim (he has lotsa amazing sc2 covers)
I suspect Protoss (lol) will rage.The Terran sounds like a bit of a troll and Protoss hate to lose to Terrans.
With "go" he meant "leave", I'm pretty sure he is german.^^
That was glorious
I think "go ok" was a racial slur in the same vein of the previous gamer words
the caster is gonna rage first
dude had the most random get cancer. i think he was mad from loosing games before that one
ahh my favorite ionic compound
Lol is gonna rage...
I know this is a year late-
SHUDDUP-
AsTheOracleFliesThroughAWidowmiiiiiiiine!
It's funny because I do actually play sport and you totally tilt in the same ways and actually the other day I found myself getting really wound up about the game being unfair (our team was just worse than the other team and it wasn't very fun because of it and I was getting very frustrated because it was unfair). I guess the point there though is not that we lost, its that I just felt like there wasn't really a game to have fun with because we had no answer for their team. That's often how sc feels. I've struggled with lurkers since forever and even knowing how to counter them and what you're supposed to do, I'll still be doing ok in a game and mismicro some ghosts once and lose them all, but now I know that it's just my mistake that cost me the game, not any kind of imbalance, whereas when I didn't know how to counter them before, I felt the same feeling I felt during that sports game. Its just unfair what am I supposed to do about this, but in sports its totally valid to say, well you're just better/ bigger/ stronger than me so there is no point in us competing. Just like weight classes/ gender separation etc. The goal is to make the game even and when it feels uneven, it stops being fun. The realisation though is that it's not your opponents fault, but yours helps you to redirect the anger.
Accepting that you're imperfect and can improve, whether at Sc, sports or even life in general , and that failing is just an opportunity to improve has massively changed my outlook on things.
Every game, every sport is a test to see which side is stronger, so no they're never balanced. If the game was TRUELY fair...every game would end in a tie.
Freaking legend 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I bet lol rages first!
Spoiler
I usually always cheer for whoever is playing against Zerg, but if it is a Protoss cannon rush, I am all Hive.
I think lol will rage, but who knows?
Edit: And it was... Ok. Why?
No way that pvz is at master. More like plat or diamond 3.
lol gonna rage
Tbh the man with gun is to op needs to be nurfed take away it’s AA
All I do is stim stim stim no matter what 🎉
Oinkety oink
lmaooooo
Cool
Must be a Temp0 terran.
Hi Pig. You are always talking about low APM like it matters? Im sure you know that APM basically says nothing? Most Players with high APM are just spamming or doing stuff with their APM thats not helpful....
I like your vids, its just irritating for me when "Pros" are talking about APM to people from mostly the metal-leagues 🙂
Thanks for your funny Content and wish you all good things.
Greetings from Germany 🙂
If you look at his b2gm series, you'll see he is very aware of this. But occasionally it naturally increases because you realize you are doing more things that matter because you need less time to realize the correct reaction to a situation you are looking at. And never forget to macro between, before and after your fights. 😁
@@Mechator_Rex Thats absolute true. I think just that he´s talking about it a little too much ^^ many people watching this are in the "lower" leagues i think... and maybe some of them get the false assumption that APM matters in low leagues :-) just my thoughts ^^
Stop stealing good air - a decent person could breathe is the best insult I have ever heard. I mean it was totally uncalled for, but some day when it is called for, I will steal it and use it.
no such thing as bad or karma or etc
u let yourself be cencored? by yourself because youtube? these youtubers are legit not themselves, its all a lie isnt it =D
i found out last week my dad is dying of cancer, i hate that i see this thumbnail every time i check my subs
First? :P
Nah im first
Nahh me first
"they" said get cancer? Have they multiple personalities?
"Oh look, i'm transphobic, i'm very funny"
@@seiryn3082 dont get it
@@pirds102010 They can be used if you are unsure of the genderof a perosn and thus don't want to use he or she. It has been in used this way since the 19th century.
@@seiryn3082 getting offensive is very unnessesary
@@artemis_fowl44hd92 I am not from america or something so thank you :D
people only pretend to care about fairness with bodies in sports when it's an excuse to be transphobic, otherwise they don't care lol
No, people care when athletes use anabolics and other dopes to gain an unfair advantage. Was this post just an excuse to virtue signal?
@@p_serdiukwe were talking about variation in human bodies though? Then again you're talking about "virtue signaling" so I don't think I should engage more than that
@@Laezar1 We were talking about unfair advantages. Having a body that has way more androgens in it than the opponents do on average is an unfair advantage because of their anabolic activity. Whether those androgens are synthetic or natural is irrelevant. And there is an entire list of other varieties of doping agents that are prohibited. Otherwise, yes, there is some natural variation between people.
@@p_serdiuk Yes these people are mentally ill weirdos. It's like Black people who bring up racism at any opportunity at all.
What's the point of that cannon rush? Keep them on 2 bases while he's on 1?
Inclusive homophobia hahaha