Essential tennis, Feel Tennis, Top Speed Tennis, Top Tennis training and Jeff Salzenstein... They all need to watch this guy’s videos. None of those channels talk about correctly or even mention about this topic!!!!
Feel Tennis (Tomaz) mentioned using the off hand for correct spacing on forehands. Slazenstein also teaches how to avoid "t-rex" arms again using the off hand for spacing
"Engaging the core strength" at 6:30 is what Qi Gong and Tai Chi practicioners call "Standing firm as a tree,, a common exercise for developing the so called 'internal strength" Great Lesson 🙂👍🏻
Your videos are great, just had an argument on facebook about technique and really wanted to send them your video on taking the racket back at the right time.Agree with you 100 per cent,Thanks.
I took a lesson with a pro last month and he pointed this out with my volleys. Said I had great technique but needed to get my elbows away from body in ready position, just like you pointed out in your box description. This was the first time I heard this and watching Stefanos Tsitsipas you see this as he waits to return serve..his elbows are out. Great video!!
Great video!! I have been thinking something similar to this concept for a while now, and I am so glad and surprised that you put it in such organized understanding explanation like this. I ve never heard anyone talk about this concept before especially the stabilization of the “heads” and body before the hit.
Agassi's forehand was always elbow close to body and he did that to eliminate one more point in the motion that could cause an error. When you free the elbow like the current gen players... yes you may get powerful shots... but the reliability of your forehand goes down because there is now one more joint along the chain that is loose and free and could cause a misalignment with the ball. Agassi kept his elbow in and used the hips to unit turn into the ball... even as he made contact he kept tension in the wrist to get that firm impact (was almost as if he hit the forehand with only his body while his arm maintained tension and kept its form). not loose and almost-straight-arm like Fed's. You saying Agassi (and many others) were wrong?
I talk a bit more on the kinetic chain in the online course but I do a video on the channel called “Lies and Secrets of the Effortless Swing” hopefully that helps
Great question.. not sure actually. I do teach getting the hitting arm elbow up and back to engage the shoulder early. Some player with very high tosses will sometimes have a limp shoulder w the racquet down and re engage at the last second. I haven’t had much luck w that yet.
Great video! One thing I would like to point out is thiem keep his elbow closer to body in ready position . only once he starts he starts his turn, he takes the elbow away. Your thoughts on that?
You’re absolutely right... nobody holds the racquet far from their body like that. It would be incorrect to hit a running shot like that as well and I curb this topic on part 2 - swing hard, not fast. It’s more so teaching these concepts at the beginner/intermediate level the players need go extreme to get what it feels like. Good catch that I probably should have mentioned!
I have literally modelled my backhand after Agassi's since i was a kid and I can tell you after years of drilling his technique that this technique does not intentionally keep arms away from body. In fact it feels more agassi-like when you keep the left arm closer to your body with an open face grip which gives you more impact feel when you wrap around after the right wrist lays the racket back. It may SEEM to you like thats how he hits it.... but I promise you the comfort and the solid feel that his technique gives cannot do so by distancing the arms away from the body. It feels MUCH worse when you do that and that becomes like an Andy Roddick backhand which simply has no plow through.
But but - the main function of keeping the hitting arm elbow out is to let the arm rotate freely from the shoulder joint thus letting the power transfer to the arm from the rotating trunk, not muscling the ball with your arm/shoulder muscles, what are you saying here, man! This is misleading infromation.
I am sorry but I fundamentally disagree with the message that a player muscles the racquet around To hit the ball. Sure it certainly helps to be fit and strong, but engaging a muscular tension actually has the effect of reducing speed. It appears you are conflating muscular engagement with a late or abridged unit turn in your examples. In fact when you demonstrate poor technique with elbows in, it is apparent that the muscles must work harder because you exaggerate a late timing of the stroke as proof. With good timing and rotation, the space will be created regardless of the preparation, albeit inefficient and harder to control. Closer to your point and nice high preparation in the ‘box’ sets up an effortless stroke that generates easy power. This has little to do with “core strength”, one of the silliest trends in athletics and physical rehabilitation, and more to do with an early preparation to allow for an efficient and speedy rotation into the ball. That said, the box is a great place to prepare a stroke, just not because of the nonsense about muscles or core strength.
You are one of the best tennis coach I have watched, very detailed and really hit home the key points that a lot of players missed.
Essential tennis, Feel Tennis, Top Speed Tennis, Top Tennis training and Jeff Salzenstein... They all need to watch this guy’s videos. None of those channels talk about correctly or even mention about this topic!!!!
Top tennis training has already mentioned about this when they analysed Thiem's and Kyrgios's forehand
They don't want you to actually improve your tennis, or they would run out of business :(
Feel Tennis (Tomaz) mentioned using the off hand for correct spacing on forehands. Slazenstein also teaches how to avoid "t-rex" arms again using the off hand for spacing
Amazing advise
"Engaging the core strength" at 6:30 is what Qi Gong and Tai Chi practicioners call "Standing firm as a tree,, a common exercise for developing the so called 'internal strength"
Great Lesson 🙂👍🏻
Excellent teaching! Thank you. I LOVE learning technique! Thank you! 💕
Excellent, excellent stuff. I love the emphasis on the why of the bio-mechanics.
Your videos are great, just had an argument on facebook about technique and really wanted to send them your video on taking the racket back at the right time.Agree with you 100 per cent,Thanks.
I took a lesson with a pro last month and he pointed this out with my volleys. Said I had great technique but needed to get my elbows away from body in ready position, just like you pointed out in your box description. This was the first time I heard this and watching Stefanos Tsitsipas you see this as he waits to return serve..his elbows are out. Great video!!
In short, I appreciate your videos as other online instructors seem to miss out on these details that you focus on.
This video is exactly what I needed right now thanks
Fascinating never heard this before!
excellent instruction. thanks a lot!
Another good video. Thank you.
Great stuff!
Great video!! I have been thinking something similar to this concept for a while now, and I am so glad and surprised that you put it in such organized understanding explanation like this. I ve never heard anyone talk about this concept before especially the stabilization of the “heads” and body before the hit.
Thank you!
Extremely good tip!
Agassi's forehand was always elbow close to body and he did that to eliminate one more point in the motion that could cause an error. When you free the elbow like the current gen players... yes you may get powerful shots... but the reliability of your forehand goes down because there is now one more joint along the chain that is loose and free and could cause a misalignment with the ball. Agassi kept his elbow in and used the hips to unit turn into the ball... even as he made contact he kept tension in the wrist to get that firm impact (was almost as if he hit the forehand with only his body while his arm maintained tension and kept its form). not loose and almost-straight-arm like Fed's. You saying Agassi (and many others) were wrong?
good stuff
A gem
Another great video man! Love it
Can you teach about the kinetic chain? How to swing effortlessly?
I talk a bit more on the kinetic chain in the online course but I do a video on the channel called “Lies and Secrets of the Effortless Swing” hopefully that helps
Hello coach Steven are you going to new video for your membership site thank you for all your work are you going to talk about tactics in tennis
Yes to both. I’m just a little slow sometimes.
@@15PointsOfTennis also do you give private lesson to people I feel.that my coach doesn't help enough
Great video. Does the box also apply to the serve?
Great question.. not sure actually. I do teach getting the hitting arm elbow up and back to engage the shoulder early. Some player with very high tosses will sometimes have a limp shoulder w the racquet down and re engage at the last second. I haven’t had much luck w that yet.
Just wondering: why the two handed forehand
Good question.. I’ll do a video exclusively on this, but I can tune it quickly without much practice.
No attribution for the Thiem video?
Thank you... added to the video description!
Great video! One thing I would like to point out is thiem keep his elbow closer to body in ready position . only once he starts he starts his turn, he takes the elbow away. Your thoughts on that?
You’re absolutely right... nobody holds the racquet far from their body like that. It would be incorrect to hit a running shot like that as well and I curb this topic on part 2 - swing hard, not fast. It’s more so teaching these concepts at the beginner/intermediate level the players need go extreme to get what it feels like. Good catch that I probably should have mentioned!
little T-Rex arm :D :D ......excellent video, thank you so much!
I have literally modelled my backhand after Agassi's since i was a kid and I can tell you after years of drilling his technique that this technique does not intentionally keep arms away from body. In fact it feels more agassi-like when you keep the left arm closer to your body with an open face grip which gives you more impact feel when you wrap around after the right wrist lays the racket back. It may SEEM to you like thats how he hits it.... but I promise you the comfort and the solid feel that his technique gives cannot do so by distancing the arms away from the body. It feels MUCH worse when you do that and that becomes like an Andy Roddick backhand which simply has no plow through.
Can you do some more interviews with people? That last one was really good.
Not in the near future but maybe at some point!
But but - the main function of keeping the hitting arm elbow out is to let the arm rotate freely from the shoulder joint thus letting the power transfer to the arm from the rotating trunk, not muscling the ball with your arm/shoulder muscles, what are you saying here, man! This is misleading infromation.
Jack Quinn amen brother.
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I am sorry but I fundamentally disagree with the message that a player muscles the racquet around To hit the ball. Sure it certainly helps to be fit and strong, but engaging a muscular tension actually has the effect of reducing speed. It appears you are conflating muscular engagement with a late or abridged unit turn in your examples. In fact when you demonstrate poor technique with elbows in, it is apparent that the muscles must work harder because you exaggerate a late timing of the stroke as proof. With good timing and rotation, the space will be created regardless of the preparation, albeit inefficient and harder to control.
Closer to your point and nice high preparation in the ‘box’ sets up an effortless stroke that generates easy power. This has little to do with “core strength”, one of the silliest trends in athletics and physical rehabilitation, and more to do with an early preparation to allow for an efficient and speedy rotation into the ball.
That said, the box is a great place to prepare a stroke, just not because of the nonsense about muscles or core strength.