first off he said he would like the option for wireless controllers that way people can choose. Also modern controllers don't really have lag so I don't see why if, this had a wireless controller option that there would be any problem with lag on them.
@elana playz yeah if you already have the roms as they are getting difficult to download nes games now because Nintendo likes to sue everybody for copyright infringement
DantheMan The extensions aren't officially licensed by Nintendo, if I remember correctly, and you can't use Wii Remotes to make it wireless. It's a valid complaint when modern living rooms or gaming areas are very spaced out.
Barabajagal Why should I have to buy an additional HDMi cable when Nintendo should have made a longer cable for the controller, officially license those extenders, or even make Wii Remotes compatible? I'm not asking for some fancy feature that Nintendo has to painfully work to implement.
Buying a longer HDMI cable isn't even a valid solution. I want my NES under the TV with all my other electronic systems and devices, not smack in the middle of my carpet or coffee table.
It's funny how people are justifying the small cord. Seriously? Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo and my New 3DS, but some of you are just too much of a fanboy thinking Nintendo can never do anything wrong. "No A.C. adaptor on the New 3DS is great because everyone already has one, and it makes for a pleasant surprise for those that don't!" " The short cord is great because it forces me off my comfy sofa and sit really close to my huge tv! " "I love how Wii U doesn't have many 3RD party games because it will make the system sell trillions!"
Narata I think the problem was if the cord was longer it would lag and people HATE lag, besides the reviewer was making a big deal about this one little issue.
nah, short controller cable is a major complaint. consoles games are meant to be enjoyed from your couch. thats the ENTIRE APPEAL of console gaming over PC gaming. given that its trying to emulate the experience of playing an original NES they could have at least matched the cable length with the original NES. though I guess needing to buy peripherals to make nintendo consoles playable is nothing new.
A short controller cable is a perfectly valid reason to bring down a final score. What also contributed was the fact that there's no way to buy new games for the console and are locked to playing only those which have been already pre-installed.
ChillyNightZ I want a mini original Wii. A flash drive that snaps into the controller that I can slap in my tv. Then I could get a whole library of games.
Do you guys think that they would change the controller a bit so that it can be more comfortable if they ever made a mini N64? or just leave it as it is?
That_One_Fun_Dude I don't think that's it its just lazy design. Why are people praising the short cord. Sure ign gave it a 7 and that is too low, but the cord is a downside and that's that.
Na. I prefer supporting a good idea and not having to use a laptop or pc. Plus, it gives me something to take with me on trips when I have to stay at a hotel or something. No charge needed and it isn't even heavy. Also my little nephews and nieces can play on this so they can stop asking me to play my super Nintendo. My parents can enjoy it too since the controls will be familiar to them.
You can still do all the same things with emulation. Emulation isn't limited to just PC It's used on a variety of machines. Such as a phone, a Wii, a Nvidia TV, tablet, etc.. the list goes on. As for controllers you can find the same nostalgia as finding the same controller you want to except it being Bluetooth meaning no cords, so your parents would still enjoy. Also, every game would be in HD if you wanted and had the right emulator and also every game is freely downloadable, and not illegally.
Sure that. Or just buy this for 60 bucks and reward Nintendo for a great idea. Why would I spend so much money on all that stuff, JUST to get free games. Makes no sense to me.
david ortega You don't have to spend any money at all. Unless your using a computer from the 90's or a tracphone or something??? How hard is it to understand that?
I think IGN missed the point of short wired controllers. Its to recreate the authentic feel of playing the NES in the 80s and 90s. We take wireless controllers for granted now but sitting close to the TV was how it was done then.
I was actually thinking this very thing as back in the '70s and '80s, you were supposed to move the console to you. They had short controller wires and long as hell TV wires. And into the 90's and beyond, that started flipping to what we have now with consoles sitting right at the TV and controllers having either no wires or long as hell ones. But I took out my old NES controller to see and that ORIGINAL NES controller from the '80s has a wire roughly twice that length (didn't get 100% measurement as I don't have arms that long). But that is still no excuse for the "low" score.
Look at the Famicom. That system had short controller cords mainly cause it was designed with Japanese living rooms in mind which as a rule are smaller than American living rooms
Saran The Husky but even the original nes had a longer cord. I could sit on top of a tall bunk bed that's a foot away and still be able to reach with a lot of room left.
What's this? IGN giving a fair, somewhat detailed review of a Nintendo product? Next you're gonna tell me they'll start putting more than 30 minutes worth of effort into their content.
"Lovingly captures the look of 90's style Icons". All the games came out in the 80's... By the way, the reason the controller cords are so short is because it's a throwback to the oldschool systems, the cords for the Atari were short for instance, and the cords for the Famicom were permanently attached (and short). The reason is because you weren't supposed to set it on your t.v., you were supposed to set it on your coffee table (which most people don't have anymore). So probably a bad idea... but definitely Old-School
If you didn't call them out on it I was going to. Though, in their defense, MOST of the games are from the 80's. Kirby's Dream Land was '93. Punch out is a bit grey as the version here was 1990, but the Mike Tyson version was in the 80's. And while atari's and even the Famicom's cords were short, this is not those systems. Also these developers should have learned from those systems and not to do that. It's a design flaw that we don't need. The only thing I'm not too keen on is how it seems that the manuals aren't loaded onto the system. You have to use a QR code to look them up.
Funny to see how far we've come since the release of this. At this moment we have NES-N64 games now available on Switch with things like Metroid Prime getting full on remastered treatments. With a Switch 2 rumored for 2024.
60 bucks for a full console with 30 classic top-grade games and updated graphics? And you say it should be 20?? You insane?? By the way, a 360 is 100$ these days and every game is still 45 to 60$ so... No.
Got some controller cable extensions and loooooving this thing. It is inconvenient to save, having to walk over to the system every time, but that just urges me to play the best I can all the time.
In Japan they got a mini Famicom,, the original Famicom was knowed for having a really short cable so who knows maybe the NES mimi use the same cable, as the mini Famicom thats my idea
I'm not complaining about the short controller cable, makes me feel like a kid again sitting up close to the tv and getting yelled at. Lol I love my Nes. 💯
I agree I don't like the short cable for the controller. Much shorter than the original. Either should have made it longer or wireless. That said I'm still getting this, it's badass!!
This thing is pretty badass, those days when the NES was the main entertainment set are actually unforgettable days. It reminds us the old days when we were kids.
"The cable's too short" It seems this generation has forgotten how you save progress on an original NES. Which Nintendo did it on purpose to prevent the urge of getting up from your couch. Just bend forward. See, a game like the Legend of Zelda, always required that you hold the SELECT button then the Power button once you've saved the progress. So even Nintendo wants to emulate that. Plus, another button to access the menu or save states is unfashionable for the NES controller.
I get what you're saying but it seems strange to me to emulate an irritating limitation of the original hardware that doesn't contribute to gameplay. If you're that puritan about replicating the NES experience, surely you'd be better off just buying the actual hardware on ebay?
The NES was the first home console i own a long time ago; in 1990 to be precise was when my parents buy it and i was only 2 years old. That gray box is a really big part of my childhood and i will always have it close to my heart as a remembering of the best stage of mi entire life.
I was expecting at least an 8 for the cable length, 7.5 is a bit low considering cable length was the primary complaint, especially since he offered simple solutions. Oh no! We have to get up to change the game or save?! BLASPHEMY
RemoteGamingYT nintendo wants people to get up to press the reset button because it's nostalgic hence the "Classic" is in the title. But people just keep getting lazier.
*Complains about having a short wire that makes you have to be close to the console. Then complains about having to go to the console (which is too damn close to him already) to save or change games* First complaint is a legit one that he just blew out of proportions because IGN. Second complaint is just IGN reviewers being their typical, stupid selves. Either the short controller wire makes the fact you have to hit the reset button a "not so bad" thing at worst. Or the having to hit the reset button makes the short controller cable an understandable thing. They can both be bad, but not together.
iMaldy you can say the same about HDMI capability. Sure a wireless controller would make it bit more expensive to produce but I'm sure many would prefer a wireless controller over a short-wired one. As far as a classic console, it's more or an homage to the NES days. If it played carriages and had the same controller slot, maybe but it's an inconvenience to many, specially if you have to get up to hit the reset button or sit 3 ft from the console. That issue could have been solved and make this perfect for the person seeking to play the classics again.
Well, I know it can for sure play SNES games. Also, SNES controllers work on the system. There were only 200 prototypes of the thing that existed, and very few of them actually have a working CD drive.
John McDonagh this system doesn't support wireless controllers, at least not via Bluetooth. There is a wireless controller from a 3rd party available though.
I personally think the improvement that should be done is make it larger so cartridge compatibility can be added, make the controller port exactly like the original so older controllers can be used as well so as the accessories, and also make the controller wire longer, also they should make it so it can hook up to an actual CRT TV since how hard is it to get a CRT TV.
I really don't mind the short controller cable. My setup isn't too far away from where I would sit. If it does become a problem, I could just get a cable extension. It comes with 30 awesome games! I'm going to pick this up!
Honestly his criticisms feel more like glorified nitpicking. HDMI cables are not that expensive and people seem to forget that back in the day early game consoles were designed to sit close to you. Also I don't understand why people are complaining you can't add more games. This is mainly a novelty product meant for those who want a cheap affordable way to experience the NES. Also in order to actually download games that would require additional hardware and memory that would more than likely jack up the price. Not everyone want to go to the trouble of wrestling with ROMs and emulators and many emulators tend to be pretty terrible in terms of quality.
TheWolfgabe Great post! My thoughts on it exactly. Besides, those are STILL 30 pretty epic games. I can get an extension for the controller, and don't mind getting a second controller for 20 bucks, still a great deal for what you're getting.
PSVR requires just one chord running through the room (you can even avoid this) which connects to the headset. All the other cables can be hidden behind your TV
I think the reason for shorter controller wires is because back in the day us kids were to close to the tv to play.. :) Im 35 and NES was my first console.. i think im getting this for christmas for my kids :)
whats the cartridge compartment for if none of the old games can play on it? someway, somehow, Nintendo has to find a way to upload all of the original nes game library to the mini, cause playing 30 games will get old after awhile.
I'll wait for the Super Nintendo iteration... I'm 30yrs old and although I had my time with Nintendo classics, SNES was the console that changed my life.
FYI The Wii classic controller has a home button that works to get you back to the menu. It does the same thing as the reset button on the console. Only issue is to connect 2 of them you have to pop off at least 1 of the little keeper clips for them to fit.
I honestly think they could do a second one with a top loader design. The only question is that after putting all their 5 star games on the first edition, what would they have left on the second?
Anyone who thinks input lag would have been acceptable has clearly never beaten half of these games. Input lag is not ok for this to have, and I'm glad it doesn't. I have a 15' HDMI cord so there is no downside that I can see.
The short cables and having to press the buttons on the console are things you had to deal with the actual original NES. And are in my opinion just as important of an experience with the console as the games. And that to me is a part of the experience of classic consoles. I remember as a kid having my NES in the middle of the floor because I wanted to be 8 feet away from the television. All you do is pray that your parents don't step on it and that your dog doesn't pull out the cord running through the room. Heck I still have my original NES I haven't played in a while but it's still a very important part of gaming history. So this day just needs to get over his first world problem and deal with the corded the controller.
Nyko is making an extension for controller, along with a wireless (dongle) controller. EMiO is making "The Edge" joystick & controller; both with extra long cables. Enjoy.
Not even a 3 foot cord? WTF? That is Famicom/Super Famicom short. It's like they only planned for people to use it while plugged into a wiimote. Nintendo could have taken this to the next level with more effort.
I AM GOING TO BUY THIS. THIS BRINGS BACK SO MUCH MEMORIES WHEN I WAS A KID. I do remember the cord on the Original NES was a lot longer then 2 1/2 ft though. But who cares if you grew up with the NES. I just hope Nintendo brings out a SNES like this.
Forgot to mention you can use the Wii Pro Controller (longer cable) or you can use an extension if you really have too. This is not as bad as IGN is making it seem. I will be picking it up Friday, I just wish that it came with wifi or obviously some way of installing new games.
They have lost my purchase bcause of the short wire. I can't be pulling this thing out into the middlemof the room everytime I wanna play. Especially with children in the house. And even with extenders...You still need to pull it out so you can reset it. Poorly design, and cheap...classic Nintendo. It is a shame because the emulation looks great.
Doesn't address the most important questions: how well are the games emulated, and how much input lag and controller latency is added in that setup? Input lag in emulation coming on top of your TV's input lag can spell disaster for playability of demandning games. That's why original hardware+everdrive+SD CRT is the real way to go for enjoying the whole library without collecting all the expensive games. If you must use an LCD; AVS Nes+everdrive instead.
I've read on many forums about retropie emulation adding lag. From 50ms to 200ms, which is detrimental to many games. Here's an example showing added lag on an LCD: watch?v=N6UTnFuaqxg Now compare that to original hardware on a standard definition CRT and the difference must be even greater. On the other hand, some seem to have been able to tweak it with frame delay etc., but real hardware on a CRT will always be the real deal.
I'm finally getting one of these tomorrow!! I walked into a GameStop without any money (didn't deposit one of my checks) and the manager was SUPER COOL, saving one for me for tomorrow! I just want to play these games again with an NES controller. I forget how that felt.. I don't hate GameStop. I don't get why people rag on them so much. They sell used games pretty cheap, that haven't come out in the past year.
Legendary Milk It may somehow get datamined so they can learned how the games go in. If/when they do we may be able to add more games via hacking. Just a possibility though :)
skullkeeper 94 sweet it would make it a must get if/when they do, love the old nes look, im also hoping nintendo switch has the old colors, saw a pic of it like that but im not sure if its real photo or photoshop :)
Didn't they say in an earlier video(a couple of months ago), when they first saw the classic nes, it would be a nostalgic feeling to get up and press the reset button?
It's a really great idea, and seems that in many ways was done very well here, but man... I can't bring myself to buy one of these until a version exists that'll be able to download more games, or give more options. I just hope this is the beginning of even better similar offers in the future -- mini classic NES, SNES and GB/GBC/GBA's with most of those respective consoles' entire libraries available with equally great emulation and possibly even a few features to compete with PC emulation like myriad options and maybe even stuff like netplay? Then I'll throw my money all over 'em.
The cord length is kind of dumb. My issue is not being able to buy more games for the system to emulate. I was really hoping they were willing to do something like that.
+Scott2781 Missed what point? It's not like playing on a PC is any less authentic, you can even use a real NES controller through an adapter, so it's even more authentic than the Classic Edition.
julien tremblay That analogy is so out there lol. I;m just saying it doesn't seem worth it in my opinion. Maybe it'd be worth it if I like Nintendo games.
Mobius The point of this is not just about playing the games, at least for many people. That is why they are releasing this. It's about more than just be able to play these games. In my country people are rereleasing the Mega Drive (Genesis), in a new version that uses the original cartridges and sdcards. I don't buy these things, but I understand why other people like them.
For those wondering why it doesn't come with control gun and shooting games like Duck Hunt or Wild Gunman. The reason is because if you shot at a target, nothing would happen. The control gun and it's games were designed to work with digital/plasma screens. Only the previous type of tv screens like how tv screens were when the games were first made. They do hope to fix that problem.
"I'd rather have a few milliseconds of lag..."
F that.
I bet he also would rather 1080p over 60fps.
DeAndre Enrico Yeah goodluck playing Ninja Gaiden with a quarter second of lag. The reviewer is a moron
That's what I was saying. If there was one era of games I wouldn't want ANY lag in, it's these NES era games.
first off he said he would like the option for wireless controllers that way people can choose. Also modern controllers don't really have lag so I don't see why if, this had a wireless controller option that there would be any problem with lag on them.
Iexactly, this guy wants LAaaaaaaaGgg is he kidding! Totally lost all faith for their reviews now!
You also get a whole console for the price of one game.
Fogboy AND a controller AND 30 games plus
Valar Morghulis Eeeeh... No. Each of these games is like 3 or 5 bucks on virtual console
The dapper skully 20 i think someone did the math and if you buy these games on the Wii U they cost more than the nes classic mini
+Dapperskull 20
5 × 30 = 150
HA
Review: "You'll never be able to load it with new games."
Internet: "hahahahahahah"
He meant “legally”
How can you download more nes games? thats the only thing stopping me from buying it? I want to play so many other nes games. please help. thanks
@Wevuska Weve wow
@elana playz yeah if you already have the roms as they are getting difficult to download nes games now because Nintendo likes to sue everybody for copyright infringement
@@Poever no he works for the people who make these things he’s spreading lies and propaganda there is a difference
Why does the short wire knock off so many points? Just get an extension
DantheMan The extensions aren't officially licensed by Nintendo, if I remember correctly, and you can't use Wii Remotes to make it wireless. It's a valid complaint when modern living rooms or gaming areas are very spaced out.
Barabajagal Why should I have to buy an additional HDMi cable when Nintendo should have made a longer cable for the controller, officially license those extenders, or even make Wii Remotes compatible? I'm not asking for some fancy feature that Nintendo has to painfully work to implement.
Yeah, look out! The extension is 200 euros; that's where they sting ye!
Buying a longer HDMI cable isn't even a valid solution. I want my NES under the TV with all my other electronic systems and devices, not smack in the middle of my carpet or coffee table.
Just extend the wire. Why is it so hard in 2016 to increase the length of a freaking cable
This, my fellas, is the birth of a new meme: 7.5/10 "Cable too short"
lol
7.5/10
Not enough Cables
"too much lacking of cable"
That meme didn't last long.
It wasn't the birth of a new meme
but thats how it was back in the day.....getting up changing the game sitting so close to the tv, those were good times
Eduardo Zamora My thoughts exactly :)
True but TVs were smaller then
@@sadisticbagel8319 they have filters to simulate that
@@sadisticbagel8319 So were socks.
Change bad
It's funny how people are justifying the small cord. Seriously? Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo and my New 3DS, but some of you are just too much of a fanboy thinking Nintendo can never do anything wrong. "No A.C. adaptor on the New 3DS is great because everyone already has one, and it makes for a pleasant surprise for those that don't!" " The short cord is great because it forces me off my comfy sofa and sit really close to my huge tv! " "I love how Wii U doesn't have many 3RD party games because it will make the system sell trillions!"
Narata lol exactly. I'm a Sony fanboy, oh well.
guy that nailed it nailed it.
Narata I think the problem was if the cord was longer it would lag and people HATE lag, besides the reviewer was making a big deal about this one little issue.
Nathan Gaboury lag could be it but also in Japan they don't need long cords because they live in small house's.
Plus it ain't THAT small of a cord it's alright and plus I don't think it's that bad to get your lazy behind off the couch and change the game
7.5 because the controller cable is short? Bye. 👋
mike miles hello
Miles and because not to much games you can get this games for free for your android phone any way
It's my biggest complaint with it too why is that unreasonable
Amazon sells extension cable.
nah, short controller cable is a major complaint. consoles games are meant to be enjoyed from your couch. thats the ENTIRE APPEAL of console gaming over PC gaming. given that its trying to emulate the experience of playing an original NES they could have at least matched the cable length with the original NES.
though I guess needing to buy peripherals to make nintendo consoles playable is nothing new.
ign logic= if the console is great but doesn't have cordless controllers= 7.5 rating
no, ign logic= if the console is great but has a very short cord that you're forced to have your head glued to your tv= 7.5 rating
+Tiago V.S. You're not forced to have your head glued to your TV, though...
A short controller cable is a perfectly valid reason to bring down a final score. What also contributed was the fact that there's no way to buy new games for the console and are locked to playing only those which have been already pre-installed.
Tiago V.S. it does say it has an extension cord
Slendermii11 no, you need to buy an extension cord
Who else is waiting for a mini N64?? xD
ChillyNightZ that would be awsome
ChillyNightZ sold
ChillyNightZ I want a mini original Wii. A flash drive that snaps into the controller that I can slap in my tv. Then I could get a whole library of games.
Do you guys think that they would change the controller a bit so that it can be more comfortable if they ever made a mini N64? or just leave it as it is?
ChillyNightZ Imo I think they would leave it as it is.
Lose 2,5 points for 2,5 foot cable.
Makes sense right?
Who else is hoping for mini gamecube
Me!
tbh if this is successful Nintendo will be remaking all of them
Ebola Squirrel maybe in 2040
everyone said that about NES remix... When did we get SNES, N64 remix again? -.-
Granted NES remix is a game so it's not the same thing but it goes to show that they don't necessarily do the same thing twice...
The short cable is by design, you need to press the buttons on the console midgame.
That doesn't even make sense. You could still sit as close as you want to the console with a longer cable.
the book worm it's also to bring you back to when (at least I) sat on the floor to play games.
"You could still sit as close as you want to the console with a longer cable."
That_One_Fun_Dude I don't think that's it its just lazy design. Why are people praising the short cord. Sure ign gave it a 7 and that is too low, but the cord is a downside and that's that.
Poor design choice for 2016. I know it makes it more "classic" but come on seriously
30 games that would cost hundreds of dollars on amazon or ebay, just for 60 dollars and updated graphics to fit modern tv's? SOLD!
Well, let me tell you a little something.... what if I told you, you can do all this for free and more with emulation?
Na. I prefer supporting a good idea and not having to use a laptop or pc. Plus, it gives me something to take with me on trips when I have to stay at a hotel or something. No charge needed and it isn't even heavy. Also my little nephews and nieces can play on this so they can stop asking me to play my super Nintendo. My parents can enjoy it too since the controls will be familiar to them.
You can still do all the same things with emulation. Emulation isn't limited to just PC It's used on a variety of machines. Such as a phone, a Wii, a Nvidia TV, tablet, etc.. the list goes on. As for controllers you can find the same nostalgia as finding the same controller you want to except it being Bluetooth meaning no cords, so your parents would still enjoy. Also, every game would be in HD if you wanted and had the right emulator and also every game is freely downloadable, and not illegally.
Sure that. Or just buy this for 60 bucks and reward Nintendo for a great idea. Why would I spend so much money on all that stuff, JUST to get free games. Makes no sense to me.
david ortega You don't have to spend any money at all. Unless your using a computer from the 90's or a tracphone or something??? How hard is it to understand that?
This should be able to run CoD Infinite Warfare.
Rookie458 and a cup holder
jonnyquestfan777
The joke
Your head
Rookie458 If it could, IGN would give it a 9.2/10 instead of a 7.5/10.
jonnyquestfan777
this freakin' guy
considering how outdated infinite warfare is i'm surprised it can't run it! lol!
I think IGN missed the point of short wired controllers. Its to recreate the authentic feel of playing the NES in the 80s and 90s. We take wireless controllers for granted now but sitting close to the TV was how it was done then.
I was actually thinking this very thing as back in the '70s and '80s, you were supposed to move the console to you. They had short controller wires and long as hell TV wires. And into the 90's and beyond, that started flipping to what we have now with consoles sitting right at the TV and controllers having either no wires or long as hell ones. But I took out my old NES controller to see and that ORIGINAL NES controller from the '80s has a wire roughly twice that length (didn't get 100% measurement as I don't have arms that long). But that is still no excuse for the "low" score.
Look at the Famicom. That system had short controller cords mainly cause it was designed with Japanese living rooms in mind which as a rule are smaller than American living rooms
Saran The Husky but even the original nes had a longer cord. I could sit on top of a tall bunk bed that's a foot away and still be able to reach with a lot of room left.
I think the only reason why they made cable short was to not having to walk a mile to change your game, what now?
Jackson Diol m8 the games are built in
Ohh never mind
Jackson Diol True but I would have preferred they added a "home" button maybe on the back middle of the controller or something like that.
maybe buy an HDMI extension cable?
Joshua Smith ?
What's this? IGN giving a fair, somewhat detailed review of a Nintendo product? Next you're gonna tell me they'll start putting more than 30 minutes worth of effort into their content.
"Lovingly captures the look of 90's style Icons". All the games came out in the 80's... By the way, the reason the controller cords are so short is because it's a throwback to the oldschool systems, the cords for the Atari were short for instance, and the cords for the Famicom were permanently attached (and short). The reason is because you weren't supposed to set it on your t.v., you were supposed to set it on your coffee table (which most people don't have anymore). So probably a bad idea... but definitely Old-School
If you didn't call them out on it I was going to. Though, in their defense, MOST of the games are from the 80's. Kirby's Dream Land was '93. Punch out is a bit grey as the version here was 1990, but the Mike Tyson version was in the 80's. And while atari's and even the Famicom's cords were short, this is not those systems. Also these developers should have learned from those systems and not to do that. It's a design flaw that we don't need.
The only thing I'm not too keen on is how it seems that the manuals aren't loaded onto the system. You have to use a QR code to look them up.
Funny to see how far we've come since the release of this. At this moment we have NES-N64 games now available on Switch with things like Metroid Prime getting full on remastered treatments. With a Switch 2 rumored for 2024.
Mostly 10/10 games7.5 rating?OVER A CONTROLLER WIRE?!
Spoiled generation at its finest I guess he doesn't remember the 80's/90's very well
Iggsy81 "WITH"? really?
Iggsy81 wtf r u talking about? U getting mad over 60.
popick86 How is someone with a huge distance from their TV and couch supposed to enjoy this? At least make the wire long enough to reach the couch.
60 bucks for a full console with 30 classic top-grade games and updated graphics? And you say it should be 20?? You insane?? By the way, a 360 is 100$ these days and every game is still 45 to 60$ so... No.
Iggsy81 20? Are you brain dead?
The console itself looks amazing! and it's only $60 i thought it would be more. Anyway 0 input lag all day. Allll day
Got some controller cable extensions and loooooving this thing. It is inconvenient to save, having to walk over to the system every time, but that just urges me to play the best I can all the time.
Why would Nintendo make such a short cable? What were they thinking?
aXque no input lag
The input lag does NOT get measurably higher for human perception with a bit longer cable. That is just utter nonsense.
In Japan they got a mini Famicom,, the original Famicom was knowed for having a really short cable so who knows maybe the NES mimi use the same cable, as the mini Famicom thats my idea
+aXque They talking about wireless connection there I think.
Probably because it's design is based on the famicom, where people in japan often played on the floor close to the tv....
I don't know tho
I'm not complaining about the short controller cable, makes me feel like a kid again sitting up close to the tv and getting yelled at. Lol I love my Nes. 💯
I think this review needed to mention the short wire a few more times
I agree I don't like the short cable for the controller. Much shorter than the original. Either should have made it longer or wireless. That said I'm still getting this, it's badass!!
Good to know about the short controller cable. Still getting it, but at least it won't come as a surprise.
Perhaps Nintendo wanted to even further recreate that retro nostalgia by having us sit 2 feet in front of the television screen again.
7.5?!!! Really?!!!!!?!?! It deserves a 9.0!!
he says and tips his fedora...
Erlisch1337 it's not a fedora. It's a trilby.
This thing is pretty badass, those days when the NES was the main entertainment set are actually unforgettable days. It reminds us the old days when we were kids.
You don't post pros and cons anymore?
Guess not. The only con at all really is the short cable, which I'm sure they will fix later somehow.
Gigi Villalobos They'll just post anything that gives them views despite how shitty it might be.
IGN(orants) at its finest.
"The cable's too short"
It seems this generation has forgotten how you save progress on an original NES. Which Nintendo did it on purpose to prevent the urge of getting up from your couch. Just bend forward.
See, a game like the Legend of Zelda, always required that you hold the SELECT button then the Power button once you've saved the progress. So even Nintendo wants to emulate that.
Plus, another button to access the menu or save states is unfashionable for the NES controller.
I get what you're saying but it seems strange to me to emulate an irritating limitation of the original hardware that doesn't contribute to gameplay. If you're that puritan about replicating the NES experience, surely you'd be better off just buying the actual hardware on ebay?
Neil Bryson Just go on your damn Raspberry Pi already.
Can't wait for November 10 to play this!
11th*
+FutureGaming56 Comes out on the 10th here in New Zealand and in Australia as well
FutureGaming56 get wrecked
So if there is one bad thing they find, IGN would rely excessively heavy on that detail to screw it all over
There's also Famicom Mini, which comes with Disk System soundfont
Now let's have a SNES mini, please!
Ellavorn Marcus your wish has come true
The controller looks so cool. One of the most popular game controllers in video game history.
"And Pixel Perfect Mode, which gives the game a more modern look"
Someone doesn't know what Pixel Perfect Mode is.
Remember if you ever feel useless in life just think ign gave last of us 2 a 10/10
The NES was the first home console i own a long time ago; in 1990 to be precise was when my parents buy it and i was only 2 years old. That gray box is a really big part of my childhood and i will always have it close to my heart as a remembering of the best stage of mi entire life.
let me know when the snes classic shows up
Dustin Raphael now
@Kaa boom? Dead comment. Time flies though. I remember watching this the day it came out. That was an election year too.
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I was expecting at least an 8 for the cable length, 7.5 is a bit low considering cable length was the primary complaint, especially since he offered simple solutions.
Oh no! We have to get up to change the game or save?! BLASPHEMY
RemoteGamingYT nintendo wants people to get up to press the reset button because it's nostalgic hence the "Classic" is in the title. But people just keep getting lazier.
That's IGN for ya. Taking a small deal and over-exaggerating it to get attention.
*Complains about having a short wire that makes you have to be close to the console. Then complains about having to go to the console (which is too damn close to him already) to save or change games*
First complaint is a legit one that he just blew out of proportions because IGN. Second complaint is just IGN reviewers being their typical, stupid selves. Either the short controller wire makes the fact you have to hit the reset button a "not so bad" thing at worst. Or the having to hit the reset button makes the short controller cable an understandable thing. They can both be bad, but not together.
+E1ite Yoshi and all the comments dosent?
Technically, he said that it makes you have to sit closer to the tv.
If only the controller was wireless...
Still getting it tho.
a classic console with wireless controller? wtf
iMaldy you can say the same about HDMI capability. Sure a wireless controller would make it bit more expensive to produce but I'm sure many would prefer a wireless controller over a short-wired one. As far as a classic console, it's more or an homage to the NES days. If it played carriages and had the same controller slot, maybe but it's an inconvenience to many, specially if you have to get up to hit the reset button or sit 3 ft from the console. That issue could have been solved and make this perfect for the person seeking to play the classics again.
Jose Torres the issue could've been adressed by having a longer cable, and sure the HDMI is a thing but I wouldnt mind rca cables either.
iMaldy neither did I. It's just inconvenient. That's it.
will there be a mini snes?
better yet, a mini n64???
how about mini ps1?
YohAquino2 That escalated quickly....
if they do a mini n64, it better have Mario kart, starfox, ornica of time, and both the 007 bond and star wars shadows of the empire at least
I still have my old ps1 with some games I think not sure if it works though lol
What about a mini Nintendo Playstation?
Well, I know it can for sure play SNES games. Also, SNES controllers work on the system.
There were only 200 prototypes of the thing that existed, and very few of them actually have a working CD drive.
I'm waiting for the mini-snes
Tidy_ Toast did you buy one
Well did you ?
Did you buy it?
This was my first system as a kid, and for that reason alone it makes this my favourite mini console.
That cable extension for the controller is impossible to find. Anyone have a link for it?
+Daimo's Game Share Your best bet would be to look on eBay my friend.
Laynel8 I did :/.
Daimo's Game Share there's a NYKO wireless controller for 20 bucks that's supposed to be good
John McDonagh this system doesn't support wireless controllers, at least not via Bluetooth. There is a wireless controller from a 3rd party available though.
Daimo's Game Share yes LAZEEFATASS.com
I personally think the improvement that should be done is make it larger so cartridge compatibility can be added, make the controller port exactly like the original so older controllers can be used as well so as the accessories, and also make the controller wire longer, also they should make it so it can hook up to an actual CRT TV since how hard is it to get a CRT TV.
I really don't mind the short controller cable. My setup isn't too far away from where I would sit. If it does become a problem, I could just get a cable extension. It comes with 30 awesome games! I'm going to pick this up!
Honestly his criticisms feel more like glorified nitpicking. HDMI cables are not that expensive and people seem to forget that back in the day early game consoles were designed to sit close to you.
Also I don't understand why people are complaining you can't add more games. This is mainly a novelty product meant for those who want a cheap affordable way to experience the NES. Also in order to actually download games that would require additional hardware and memory that would more than likely jack up the price.
Not everyone want to go to the trouble of wrestling with ROMs and emulators and many emulators tend to be pretty terrible in terms of quality.
back in the day tv screens weren't as big as today's standar. Sit 2 feet away from a 60inch hdtv and tell me how your eyes feel after 40 minutes.
Antonio Carranza Thats why the games run in 4:3 rather than being stretched
***** The system does come with an HDMI cable.
i think you would be a willing participant to recieve the nintendo staff bukkake
TheWolfgabe Great post! My thoughts on it exactly. Besides, those are STILL 30 pretty epic games. I can get an extension for the controller, and don't mind getting a second controller for 20 bucks, still a great deal for what you're getting.
I want a original Xbox remastered
Dezy Cage maybe in 2060
Why?
Brett Naysmith cause it was awesome and one of the best consoles, why else
Brett Naysmith... wtf do you mean why? Because it was a fantastic console.
it already was, it's called the Xbox one ;)
Love how they bashed this, but were singing praises for PSVR. Which required cords everywhere.
If the PSVR's cords were as short as this controller's you literally wouldn't even be able to stand up when using it
PSVR requires just one chord running through the room (you can even avoid this) which connects to the headset. All the other cables can be hidden behind your TV
Not that I plan on getting PSVR but I'd much rather have a much longer wire over too little wire.
longer cords
I don't think you know a thing about VR.
I'll wait for cinemassacre reaction.
who...
AVGN
They should've made Start and Select the reset button and of course add a longer wire for controller.
The whole review is summarised in the first 35 seconds
You are supposed to play with the console in the coffee table. I want to know if a HDMI hml cable can charge the console without the AC adapter.
I think the reason for shorter controller wires is because back in the day us kids were to close to the tv to play.. :) Im 35 and NES was my first console.. i think im getting this for christmas for my kids :)
whats the cartridge compartment for if none of the old games can play on it? someway, somehow, Nintendo has to find a way to upload all of the original nes game library to the mini, cause playing 30 games will get old after awhile.
I'll wait for the Super Nintendo iteration... I'm 30yrs old and although I had my time with Nintendo classics, SNES was the console that changed my life.
FYI The Wii classic controller has a home button that works to get you back to the menu. It does the same thing as the reset button on the console. Only issue is to connect 2 of them you have to pop off at least 1 of the little keeper clips for them to fit.
Finally, Nintendo is embracing the emulation culture. I can't wait to see their next project
Atleast 9/10!
Neg: cable lenght and that one is just able to return to the main at the console.
7.5 = Good
Not gonna stop haters from pointing problems with the review.
I honestly think they could do a second one with a top loader design. The only question is that after putting all their 5 star games on the first edition, what would they have left on the second?
Really don't see how the cable is a big deal. But now we need a mini SNES, N64, and GameCube.
Damn wish Ice Hockey made the cut. That was one of my favorites.
Anyone who thinks input lag would have been acceptable has clearly never beaten half of these games. Input lag is not ok for this to have, and I'm glad it doesn't. I have a 15' HDMI cord so there is no downside that I can see.
I hope the do an SNES edition
That was my immediate thought when I heard about this one lol
ninetailfox1983 I've got good news for you.
I'm from the future it happens
Jayden Martinez Do they do N64 classic?
Game Guy yes but there's 18 games and only 1 controller
The short cables and having to press the buttons on the console are things you had to deal with the actual original NES. And are in my opinion just as important of an experience with the console as the games. And that to me is a part of the experience of classic consoles.
I remember as a kid having my NES in the middle of the floor because I wanted to be 8 feet away from the television. All you do is pray that your parents don't step on it and that your dog doesn't pull out the cord running through the room.
Heck I still have my original NES I haven't played in a while but it's still a very important part of gaming history. So this day just needs to get over his first world problem and deal with the corded the controller.
I'm about to play this for the next 2 month quarantine
"Library of 30 games" more like 600 if you know what youre doing :D
How?
@@firdausHITMAN roms
Nyko is making an extension for controller, along with a wireless (dongle) controller. EMiO is making "The Edge" joystick & controller; both with extra long cables. Enjoy.
Not even a 3 foot cord? WTF? That is Famicom/Super Famicom short. It's like they only planned for people to use it while plugged into a wiimote.
Nintendo could have taken this to the next level with more effort.
I AM GOING TO BUY THIS. THIS BRINGS BACK SO MUCH MEMORIES WHEN I WAS A KID. I do remember the cord on the Original NES was a lot longer then 2 1/2 ft though. But who cares if you grew up with the NES. I just hope Nintendo brings out a SNES like this.
no...Contra ?
nope just super c
Better get a PSP 3000 and play all emulator z,,nes&snes
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Forgot to mention you can use the Wii Pro Controller (longer cable) or you can use an extension if you really have too. This is not as bad as IGN is making it seem. I will be picking it up Friday, I just wish that it came with wifi or obviously some way of installing new games.
They have lost my purchase bcause of the short wire. I can't be pulling this thing out into the middlemof the room everytime I wanna play. Especially with children in the house. And even with extenders...You still need to pull it out so you can reset it. Poorly design, and cheap...classic Nintendo. It is a shame because the emulation looks great.
James Marley it can become wireless with a wii remote
SeaUrchin Productions It actually can't. You can't sync the Wii Remote to the console.
James Marley Calls Nintendo cheap, acknowledges the emulation.
Ah, consumers, they can never decide.
Actually, they're selling extension cables for this thing.
James Marley This supports extensions. Get one. Who cares if you have to be near it to reset. Same as old NES.
Do you think they might do a mini SNES classic in the future?
Raspberry pi + retropie + ps 3 wireless controller = problem solved. Plus add all the roms you want and emulate pretty much all the retro consoles.
Doesn't address the most important questions: how well are the games emulated, and how much input lag and controller latency is added in that setup? Input lag in emulation coming on top of your TV's input lag can spell disaster for playability of demandning games. That's why original hardware+everdrive+SD CRT is the real way to go for enjoying the whole library without collecting all the expensive games. If you must use an LCD; AVS Nes+everdrive instead.
Mogura87 I also have the everdrive and there is no noticeable difference with the games I played so far.
I've read on many forums about retropie emulation adding lag. From 50ms to 200ms, which is detrimental to many games. Here's an example showing added lag on an LCD: watch?v=N6UTnFuaqxg
Now compare that to original hardware on a standard definition CRT and the difference must be even greater.
On the other hand, some seem to have been able to tweak it with frame delay etc., but real hardware on a CRT will always be the real deal.
Mogura87 sorry I'm on mobile can't copy paste the URL.
I have also heard the Genesis clones are pretty garbage
the cable is short because its the same length as the OG. I'd say for novelty purpose. The SNES was 6'.
OMega Shifter :D the cable is short because they copied the wii classic controller length. the original Nes controller cable was 6 feet.
You are looking at the best selling console this holiday season. Wait and see
What you need is an extra long HDMI cable
Yet another review that shows you can't trust IGN for squat.
The cable being short is maybe .5 to .75 points at most.
I'm finally getting one of these tomorrow!! I walked into a GameStop without any money (didn't deposit one of my checks) and the manager was SUPER COOL, saving one for me for tomorrow!
I just want to play these games again with an NES controller. I forget how that felt..
I don't hate GameStop. I don't get why people rag on them so much. They sell used games pretty cheap, that haven't come out in the past year.
if they had a plans to expand its games pass 30 i'd like it but what ever :(
Legendary Milk It may somehow get datamined so they can learned how the games go in. If/when they do we may be able to add more games via hacking. Just a possibility though :)
skullkeeper 94 sweet it would make it a must get if/when they do, love the old nes look, im also hoping nintendo switch has the old colors, saw a pic of it like that but im not sure if its real photo or photoshop :)
Didn't they say in an earlier video(a couple of months ago), when they first saw the classic nes, it would be a nostalgic feeling to get up and press the reset button?
It's a really great idea, and seems that in many ways was done very well here, but man... I can't bring myself to buy one of these until a version exists that'll be able to download more games, or give more options. I just hope this is the beginning of even better similar offers in the future -- mini classic NES, SNES and GB/GBC/GBA's with most of those respective consoles' entire libraries available with equally great emulation and possibly even a few features to compete with PC emulation like myriad options and maybe even stuff like netplay? Then I'll throw my money all over 'em.
Are you sure they're emulating them or running natively on the hardware?
it should be 8.5 or 9
The cord length is kind of dumb. My issue is not being able to buy more games for the system to emulate. I was really hoping they were willing to do something like that.
just use a nes emulator if you have a pc.
...except you can't play the games in HD.
Carlos Mazal yes you can
+Scott2781 Missed what point? It's not like playing on a PC is any less authentic, you can even use a real NES controller through an adapter, so it's even more authentic than the Classic Edition.
***** the point is nostalgia. 60$(oops I meant 200$) to get that nostalgic feeling
Marco Gavino Ah, I was unaware of that. I thought you would have to play crummier versions of the games and not the updated HD pixelated versions.
Can you use save/load anytime? I don't see how we are going to beat those difficult games
Anyone got a link to mod exports? Ready to throw all my stolen roms on this beast.
Getting it for Christmas
This should be $20 max because I can emulate all of these games...
Mobius well, clap clap!
Mobius That's illegal
Mobius its like saying, a car should be 20$ because i can steal it! dumbass
julien tremblay That analogy is so out there lol. I;m just saying it doesn't seem worth it in my opinion. Maybe it'd be worth it if I like Nintendo games.
Mobius The point of this is not just about playing the games, at least for many people.
That is why they are releasing this. It's about more than just be able to play these games.
In my country people are rereleasing the Mega Drive (Genesis), in a new version that uses the original cartridges and sdcards. I don't buy these things, but I understand why other people like them.
Were the original controllers' wires only 2 1/2 feet long? If so, my guess for the length is for a true feeling.
no they were 6 feet. still have mine, still works. obviously a cost cutting measure for more profits.
Cord length will kill this. Nintendo is so dumb.
For those wondering why it doesn't come with control gun and shooting games like Duck Hunt or Wild Gunman. The reason is because if you shot at a target, nothing would happen. The control gun and it's games were designed to work with digital/plasma screens. Only the previous type of tv screens like how tv screens were when the games were first made. They do hope to fix that problem.
jesus.. 7.5---im lazy enough to sit upright and would rather be lying down on my afff
So... other than the cable being too short why is this a 7.5?