I'm here watching cause I just bought a 2020 jeep renegade trail hawk and I want to see what it can do and I'm not even half way done with the video so far and am highly impressed with the choice
"Jeep Renegade isn't a real Jeep" "Jeep Renegade is a trashcan" "Jeep Renegade is Blah Blah Bla..." The video speak from it's own folks! Don't underestimate this "trashcan" only because you had issues! I have a Renegade Trailhawk here in Italy and it's great! Not a single problem and she act like a goat! I very like it! And nobody can't complain my opinion and experience! Great video my friend! Ciao from a italian Renegader!
Yeah, don’t let anyone ever tell you it’s not a real Jeep! Shot two videos with the blue Renegade the other day and it continued to prove itself! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Can't wait to see more videos of the renegade. I own a 2015 limited on 29" tall (235/60/18) Arturo trailblade xt's and 1" wheel spacers. I wish we had terrain like this in south Jersey. But we don't, so stock height will do for now. It's not as capable as my old 94 zj on 31 mud tires 2 inch lift and front and rear lunch box lockers but still enjoy it and the better mpg.
Toycoma thanks for watching! The next one will be a renegade video, probably a shorter one tho. However there’s two longer renegade videos already shot coming soon.
@@coloradomallcrawlers can't wait. I actually found your channel because I was searching for Cherokee videos since I feel those are a level or 2 above the renegade in capability due mostly because of hp and that rear locker (imo). Bbbbuuuuutttt then I see these guys in their renegades and it reminds me of why I bought one (even if it isn't a trailhawk) and helps me "keep the faith" in my decision lol.
Toycoma I’m a huge fan of the renegade because of its size! We keep making trail rigs bigger and bigger and I feel like the engineers don’t realize we need to fit on the trails too. Honestly, I was thinking about adding a Bronco yet I’m not so sure now due to it’s wider than a JL width (if that’s correct). But back to the renegade, hoping Jeep gives it a proper transfer case and maybe a locker in the future 😈
wranglers are so amazingly capable that we all know what to expect and there isn’t much drama. in that sense, seeing the cherokees and renegades do this stuff is much more interesting. great video! subbed. 👍
One thing that you'll probably see in these videos is that independent suspension provides great traction because slips and bumps on one side don't affect the other side (near as much). That's one reason I think the Cherokee and renegades did better on the tree.
We have 2. A 16 dawn of justice and a 21 limited. Love the limited with the 1.3 turbo, the DOJ has the 2.4 tiger shark and is greatly underpowered, but I went from. Modded roush to that so I’m biased...lol. Both good vehicles. I want to put a lift and some off-road gear on the 16, it’s getting scuffed up from daily driving som I’m thinking about coating it in bed liner with at least a 2inch lift
I really appreciate it! I’m hoping you all like this next one... I’ve edited a rough draft up to obstacle 1 (the flopper). I’ll get to obstacle 2 tomorrow (the v-notch) and maybe bowling ball hill (depends on work). Thanks for watching!
Great job driving by all. I really like how you show that you don't need the fanciest built up Jeep to get out and explore the trails. Looking forward to more!
Thanks Bill! Yeah, trying to show others because building them right is expensive! My next one illustrates what I heard over the years which kinda pushed me to make this youtube! Thanks for watching!
I’m really glad I went with the Cherokee Trailhawk Elite last week for my new vehicle. I knew it would be capable but your videos make me feel it’s honestly pretty close to even the wrangler with a little lift and tires!
It definitely is in terms of capability... the 4 wheel drive system is well engineered on them. The only difference I see is in articulation and risk of body damage. However a good driver should be able to get them most everywhere!
Alizoid thanks buddy! I’m working on it... thinking I’ll do heavy editing on the trail guides and also occasionally film pretty scouting trips that should be easy to edit... gonna try it on the next one!
I don’t off-road but wish I did. NYS doesn’t have public land for that activity. And I’d probably cry my eyes out anyway if I damaged my Grand Cherokee. But I love watching other people’s videos. And honestly, it’s the crossover type vehicles, like the Renegade, that amaze me the most. They’re just out there punching above their weight class.
Just ran slaughter house today solo after seeing your video. You not kidding those hills are way steeper than they look on video !! Sweet video keep it up !! 😊✌
Reinholdt Messner yes sir, but that’s what makes them fun! 😉 Will do, trying to crank out the next one, then a few will pop up soon after if I can find a good place to upload at.
I like Slaughterhouse as it usually doesn't have too deep of snow in the winter and I can still run it in my 2020 Can Am X3 XRC . I used to do it all of the time in my old Arctic Cat as well.
Okay, I am impressed with the Cherokees but mostly the Renegades. Just shows with a lift and tire upgrade other wise stock vehicle they are more than capable. Glad I found your channel, thank you.
The renegades are sweet! They’re quite durable too and I like that a lot. The next trail guide has a non-Trailhawk renegade and he’s getting that in better shape for trails so I bet we’ll see more renegades in 2023!
My wife has a Renegade. We ran it through some deep water recently running with the lifted wranglers. It lost a fuse from sitting with the fan under water too long, but held it's own. The guide for the day kept stopping and telling us he couldn't believe the Rene was keeping up. They could really use locking diffs, but the engineers claim the diffs aren't strong enough. The Cherokee can be had with a rear locker, but the available gear ratios are different. No swap option. Sucks. Great video! You have a new subscriber.
I’m absolutely with you! The engineers need to figure it out and give the trailhawks the option, like a renegade Trailhawk recon or something. Anyway, I should have a Renegade for Tincup pass this weekend and I have no doubt he’ll keep up with us there. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you subscribing!
Love your stock wheeling videos. I've avoided several of the trails you review based on Funtreks difficult rating but with your videos and variety of vehicles these seem a lot more doable than the impression I get from the guidebooks. See you on the trail!
Tires tires tires. That blue renegade did well and some of those trouble areas would have been a lot easier with better traction which I'm sure he's aware of😁
He wheels that Jeep well and I’ll be sad to see him move to another vehicle. However, I’m sure we’ll still get good video on the new ride once he has it. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers That's fine if he wants to keep them. Nothing wrong with that, but that Renegade needs more bite. Higher traction tires will make Renegade look even better, especially since there's still a lot of people who rag on it.
As a renegade Trailhawk owner I can say tires are the hardest thing to figure out. Either they aren’t aggressive enough, or they are too big to fit or turn. Very hard to find the perfect tires!
@@samkangal8428 money is definitely getting harder to come by . I definitely have to save and sacrifice for them , but taking more time . Fortunately you can pick up old GC , Libbey, Commander, Patty's Cherokees for a decent price to go wheeling with or a side Jeep. But Wranglers a little bit more cash for that but shop around you could find a good deal ✌
Good Job, well done👍🏻👏🏻 I have a Renegade with a Rooftent too Not a Trailhawk, only the Softie Street Model. Nice to see what is possible with a Baby Jeep. 😉 The same Tracks with a Hybrid Renegade was nice to see. Have fun and be fine Nice regards from Germany (near Heidelberg) Stephan 👋🏻
I love Germany! Right before COVID-19, I did a train trip through your country and it was amazing! I’d like to go back and explore more of it off-road. Thanks for watching!
I love my Renegade Trailhawk! Crazy that they do better than wranglers in some situations! I did the Alpine Loop and Imogene and Ophir Passes with my Renegade and loved its capabilities!
Size definitely matters! Really hoping Jeep realizes this and upgrades the renegade further for more difficult off-roading in stock configurations. Nimbleness definitely matters, thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I’m a manager at the ice rink up here (I basically drive a Zamboni for a living. 😏) our season isn’t over yet so trips are out of the question. But once May is over I’ll be able to hit trips and trails! Are you on JROG?
poobank I’m not well versed on their systems, but I know the Cherokee has a true low range and locker. The renegades may be a simulated low range. It’s definitely intriguing. Jeep developed an AWD/4WD for the JL so I know the tech is getting good enough that Jeep is trusting it in their flagship off-roader. Thanks for watching!
You got over 50,000 views on this video. Looks like viewers like to see a variety of different Jeeps going on a trail together to see how each Jeep model handles the trail.
Yes thank you for this! I want more ideas for my renny! I'm in CO and got a renegade trailhawk for its city + mtn versatility. I'm trying to figure out my first mods, now that it's nearing winter I might wait until spring. But I'm thinking lift 1.5-2", not sure what tires yet but I'd like to go 2 sizes bigger and hopefully not need wheel spacers, though I haven't figured out if they actually do anything other than allowing for larger tires, and then rails. As of now though I've done a few moderate (trails offroad rating 3-4) as stock and she's done splendid!
Lauren Clack of course! I’d suggest joining the Facebook group modified renegades and Devyn and Davon are part of a Colorado Trailhawk group. That should help you find the information you need. Thanks for watching!
I just seen the lovely lady's renegade build on tfl's channel and that made me want a renegade more especially now seeing it in action and she is still on stock tires in this video
Being as I only have a sport model I do not have the lower range or height these do, it will be interesting to see my ability on the steeper/more technical trails.
Yeah, it’s our biggest complaint with them... I think their size is perfect, but Jeep needs to give them more power for wheeling. If so, they might be little unstoppable machines. Thanks for watching!
The 2.4 engine is certainly too weak for Jeepin’ when combined with street gearing and a low-stall torque converter. The 2.4 engined Jeeps without low-range get into ruts where all four wheels have traction, the throttle is floored, and no wheels will spin - it can’t deliver enough torque to the wheels to go. Very un-Jeeplike. It is, on the other hand, very Subaru-like. The 2.5 CVT-equipped Subaru’s have the same problem, for which Subiphobes offer every excuse in the book, and are often seen in a rut while trailing, with the gas pedal floored and nary a wheel turning. It even shames me to have to compare the off-road performance of a Jeep with that of a Subaru ...
@@sking2173 I have a 2020 Renegade TH with the 1.3l Turbo has more torque. The few times I have been out I have not seemed to have the power cut like the older years with the 2.4.
@@ajsedlacek - Glad to hear that you are pleased with the Renegade’s performance. I have yet to drive the 1.3 ... I had hoped that it was better than the 2.4 on the trails. The 2.0 turbo in the Cherokee is a capable lump, and it would certainly wake up the Renegade/Compass. I have assumed that Jeep didn’t want to cannibalize Cherokee sales by putting that engine in the two smaller offerings.
@@sking2173 I was talking with a buddy about exactly this. If money were not an object, would love to try to transplant that entire drivetrain into a Renegade.
Very nice. The weather made it a little more challenging with the slippery conditions. slaughterhouse looks like it would be fun even a Wrangler on 37’s. I hope someday soon to get back to Colorado and try it out....
Mike Robbins For sure! Yeah, it’s definitely fun, but Jeep on 37s would have a blast on the trail I just got back from... wheeler lake! So much fun and required my best to get through it.
Impressed by the Cherokee's performance. Renegade also did much better than I expected but the Cherokee make some of that look easy even compared to the Wrangler. Also, I think I saw that white Renegade in the TFL channel on the "I love or hate my ride?"
Yeah, I really liked how this video shows the differences between the vehicles. The wrangler is a beast tho, it was just aired up and on bald tires. Still, I wouldn’t mind owning any of these vehicles! Yes sir, she was driving the 4 door unlimited here and her husband took control of the renegade, but that was her. Thanks for watching!
Sean Watson well that tree was stupid... you’re supposed to be able to get one tire over, then the other... what’s this straight on nonsense on an incline. Not going to get in between you two, but I’m pretty sure Fearless has walked us around his KL, you have not 😉🤣
There is a difference between what i cut off the trails and this. I would have driven over this one. Though i suspect that as it gets more and more dug out, this tree will be cut by the end of the year.
@@FearlessTrailhawk that's possible. I think we would have tried yours anyway. I don't know if ours was supposed to be down or not. But it was fun anyway
That looks so much fun. Use to have a kL Trailhawk with a lift, duratracs and sliders and loved the thing. Have a lifted frontier pro-4x now but would love to go with you guys at some point
Not meant to be a harsh criticism so please don't take it as such, I love your videos, that said you're unnecessarily chewing up the trail and making it harder for those that come after you by not airing down at least a bit
While editing these videos I watch closely how the tires interplay with the terrain. I notice very little difference in my videos between my aired up tires and the others who are aired down. It really just comes down to how much throttle is applied. I follow Jim Allen’s philosophy on airing down and it works well. It’s an additional traction aid. Also, as a manual driver, I feel I have a better feel for the terrain when aired up which allows me to work the clutch more efficiently. Thanks for watching!
Thanks buddy! I’m getting better I think... I think the next one will be one of the most scenic ones yet. Plus, it should be a piece of cake to edit, unlike this one 😂
Took my stock 2014 F-150 on the trail, didn't do all the obstacles, but made it through ok, the worst part is having a longer wheel base for some of the humps...running boards touched about a dozen times.
i think maybe the 1.3 turbo may be a little bit better than the 2.4.i dont know for sure but i like my 2023 renegade trailhawk.was really impressed by the cherokees
These lil mitymites are getting some! Nice trail guide, any history to the trail? Why its there? Loved your shots, very well put together. I am in awe of your talents! Hahaha that log made the wranglers look bad! Woo, that blue ones workin it, lil billy goat! These guys gotta try the Rubicon 🤣 you? May need some more practice. 😂 just joshing, great vid i had fun the more lax the footage got and the commentary too!🤣
I don’t have much history on it, but that’s definitely something I need to add... I have started using GAIA’s 1900s and 1930s maps to help with the historical aspect. As of 1900 (no 1930 map in this area), nothing in this area. The railroad went through Bailey (pretty close) and it looks like the road towards the trail was a wagon road. Thanks so much! I just want the vehicles to look great! I could see them being willing to give it a go. 🤣🤣🤣... I definitely need the practice, just wait for my next one, I got roasted 😂. Yeah, I’ll constantly be experimenting... the commentary on the next one is all one take and go, not sure if that’ll be a good thing 😝 🤣. Thanks for the support buddy!
@@coloradomallcrawlers i to enjoy the map overlays and have thought i also should add some history. Dude the candid camera stuff was golden, looking forward to the next one.
My only complaint about the Trailhawk is that even if you mash the throttle against a obstacle, it seems the engine is being limited... where as when you watch the Cherokee at 13:07 you can tell that its allowing the engine to rev more which seems to help him. Granted it has a bigger motor, but just my observation
Possibly, we all are constantly learning and improving... I still don’t feel I have the JK mastered like I had my TJs. Sean has done some incredible stuff in the Trailhawk but I’ll let him check this comment out. He’s always looking to get better as we all are. Thanks for watching!
Bigdawg that is a good observation here.. the difference really comes down to torque and not having a proper low range. The renegades "4low" technically locks them in 1st gear , but still the only have about 185 or some odd foot pounds of torque. The cherokee, whether it's the.3.2 liter pentastar v6 or the 2 liter turbo 4 like I have not only have a proper dual pto low range transfer case , but my Jeep has over 100 more foot lbs of torque. That really makes the difference in crawling situations like this. I didn't have any issues having enough power to walk up that. We talk constantly about how jeep needs to give the renegades more torque and how much more capable that would make them. Really good observation though, because the bigger engine and significantly more torque makes all the difference in the world
I was wondering if the limited rpm was a traction control thing or something of that nature. Definitely not going to be able to clean the tire out or get any heat in it if it won’t spin.
@@rustyhester6199 Exactly it cuts the horsepower because they used rock as the select terrain mode...if you use auto with lock and low and press the esp key to deactivate the traction control it doesn't cut the horsepower...rocvk cuts it electronically so you don't crash the car on the rocks.
Loved you video! I have a 2018 Jeep Renegade Turbo. I lifted it 4 inches and put bigger K02 tires. Got a winch in the front with recovery points and tow hitch recovery. Seeing all your mods is making me want to do more to my little rig! I have yet to find a Renegade Club in the Bay Area or a Renegade with mods besides mine (ಥ﹏ಥ)
Well, I’m not the renegade owner so I’m not sure what the appropriate amount of mods are. Just be careful, mods can affect your reliability. If I get a renegade, I’ll likely keep it stock to see how far I can get a stock one. Thanks for watching and good luck finding some fellow Renegade owners!
Fun looking trail! Keep up the good work! Don't get me wrong, the BU's are okay at basic stuff, but their lack of low range really hinders their ability to do the more moderate obstacles without lots of rock stacking. And using high-range 1st gear for that long and hard isn't gentle on components either, but since they lack the low range, they have to use more speed, which is also a great way to bust steering components.
@@coloradomallcrawlers imo, they are waay to tippy. I've seen more of those on their sides/tops than anything else. And then all these people are ADDING more weight to the very top...further increasing their roller over chance.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Good driver still can't beat physics, and physics says those flop very easily compared to every other 'offroader', even worse than FJ cruisers. Yes he's taken it through some trails, but that doesnt change the physics. Hells Gate looks a lot scarier than it is, seen lots of vids of rigs looking like they would flop but not.
That dark cherokee had real low tire pressure you can see the grip. But holy cow I didn't know the renegades so good off-road. Its shape is perfect it's just needs more torque and better locker or awd system. I might go with a bronco sport but kinda wanna testdrive a renegade 😂 its like a better looking Fj
those renegades have an unusual sound to them. almost like the engine isnt directly connect to the trans, maybe a CVT or something, but like the way the engine pegs out at a steady rpm, and the trans is taking that power and moving it around to the different wheels. but.. seems like thats going to be tough on clutches inside the trans. honestly it looks like they could use more power. you can tell the compass has more power and the vehicle actually lets itself use it.
It's the torque system, it's not a true 4x4 but it's an awd that will slip power to each wheel in order to gain traction, the low mod locks it into the first gear that isn't used for normal driving.
It should be noted in the video. I think he had a 2in lift here, but he may have had the 3in lift. The 3in lift seems to wear out the vehicle much quicker tho.
Let me start off by saying *old guy here**who had a CJ-7 kidney rattler back in the day. Second year production 1977 The original *Renegade* and later the 2nd year 1988 YJ *Original* Wrangler. Go modern design Jeeps! The rolling brick snobs hate them but I love my 2015 Jeep *second year* reinvented Cherokee Trailhawks shark nose! It's the reason why I bought it brand spankin new. It looks like a Jeep that was designed in the 21st century!Yeah it's not solid axel but it is unibody like the original. Has a much tamer ride with it's independent suspension. It looks exactly like something Willy's Motors would have had on display at the 1964 Worlds Fair! "The Jeep of the Future! 😏 Sleek,luxurious, and capable" It is like a childhood dream to own this vehicle. I wouldn't expect you youngsters to understand the significance of that😒 But it's just what an old fart who likes the woods needs😏 Not a rehash of the 1940 flat fender. I wouldn't have a problem with the reinvented Renegade if it was available with the 3.2 liter that's in the Cherokee. Its compact kinda like the Willy's or CJ5 and acts totally capable *when modded* but just a bit underpowered. **Then again wasn't the original Willy's 50-60 horses?** Anyway, 2015 Cherokee T H 3.2 V-6 with 2" lift on 245/ 70/17 Cooper discoverer AT4S gives me a respectable 11.7" of ground clearance. 2" is max safe height to avoid drive axel strain. And sticking with the 245 width in a 70 series, the 1" taller tire makes no need for pinch weld mod,plus the spare fits in the original spare tire well!👍 Currently sitting on stock shocks and springs. Next upgrade Dobson or Fox 👍You'll all be old and grey one day...(if you aren't already 🙄) Wisdom kids....Wisdom. I didn't grow up until I was 60.. Actually.. I never grew up!🤣 Follow my lead👍
Greetings Jeep Grand father, I'm 3rd generation Cult the last of the AMC years with a few Kaisers still around. I would freeze to death in the 79 CJ 7 and was worse in the 75 CJ5 . I'm 50 and hair falling out and love heated seats , ac , don't have to get out and lock the hubs. It's incredible what big J has done. I currently have a17 JKU , 17 MK and a 15 WK2 . I love each one for different reasons but they are all solid Jeeps no matter what model , Big J wrote the book on 4 wheel drive , and your generation 2nd and 1st taught the 3rd mine , now my kids are 4th and 5th and Jeep Cult life continues. Thank you Mr Bob, sir you guys are pioneers ✌🦆
That was fun to watch! I thought about getting a Renegade, but bought a KL/TH, as I wanted the true low range. The capability of the Renegades in the video were impressive, but it sounds like the engines were working very hard. The KL's transmission temp goes way up when using 4wdHi on the trail. Were they looking at the Renegade's transmission temp on those tough sections? The Renegade Zf9/PTU will probably blow up even faster than the KL's/TH do, working them that hard with no true 4wdLo. Both were sure doing great in your video! Wow!
Both are excellent drivers for sure and soon we’ll do a walk around of the blue one. He’s getting a big bronco soon tho. Yeah, they were getting hot on that one obstacle they struggled on, but besides that, handled the terrain well! Thanks man! We appreciate it!
@@coloradomallcrawlers A new Bronco would be great to see in action! That'd be great for your channel, when you get the Bronco in action! I'll probably never get to Colorado, but I sure like to see these rigs in action on the trails there!
I just found this and love the videos. My main question is always “did you use lockers?” I always wonder how much my JLU Sport S can do since it’s stock (other than rockers and skids) and only has the LSD rear.
I wheeled an open diff wrangler for 10 years, it’s way more capable than many will give it credit for. Additionally, your traction control system can mimic a locker somewhat (it requires careful manipulation of the throttle to get it engaged). So to answer your question, I did use lockers in these videos unless I note that I did... I think I used them on Hackett Gulch (to avoid wrecking the terrain), Cliffhanger 2.0, and Kelly Flats (due to bad driving). In the future, I’ll do a better job of documenting what I’m using on the guides, but I rarely use lockers. With all this said, don’t wheel alone. I will and it’s hypocritical for me to say that, but I can usually figure a way to get my Jeep unstuck if it happens (airing down, lockers, stacking, traction boards). Anyway, thanks for watching!
I am honestly blown away by these little Jeeps, they get a lot of hate from 'real' Jeep fans (I mean narrow minded pricks with sticks up their butts) but they dont get the fact that Renegade is how Jeeps stays in the market, makes more sales and can continue to make the best 4x4s. I have nothing but respect for all Renegade owners for taking their Jeeps wheelin
Hell yeh. Renegedes are no slouch and can hold their own.
For sure, I like them!
My father has one and loves it. I want to buy one. I used to own a Cherokee Sport back in the 1990s and loved it to death.
Own 2 Renegade Trailhawks love them
I'm here watching cause I just bought a 2020 jeep renegade trail hawk and I want to see what it can do and I'm not even half way done with the video so far and am highly impressed with the choice
Never got stuck in ours. Touch wood! 😂
Thank you for showing what the Compass & Renegade can do. So many reviews focus on what it can’t do.
Our pleasure!
"Jeep Renegade isn't a real Jeep"
"Jeep Renegade is a trashcan"
"Jeep Renegade is Blah Blah Bla..."
The video speak from it's own folks! Don't underestimate this "trashcan" only because you had issues! I have a Renegade Trailhawk here in Italy and it's great! Not a single problem and she act like a goat! I very like it! And nobody can't complain my opinion and experience!
Great video my friend! Ciao from a italian Renegader!
Yeah, don’t let anyone ever tell you it’s not a real Jeep! Shot two videos with the blue Renegade the other day and it continued to prove itself! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Can't wait to see more videos of the renegade. I own a 2015 limited on 29" tall (235/60/18) Arturo trailblade xt's and 1" wheel spacers. I wish we had terrain like this in south Jersey. But we don't, so stock height will do for now. It's not as capable as my old 94 zj on 31 mud tires 2 inch lift and front and rear lunch box lockers but still enjoy it and the better mpg.
Toycoma thanks for watching! The next one will be a renegade video, probably a shorter one tho. However there’s two longer renegade videos already shot coming soon.
@@coloradomallcrawlers can't wait. I actually found your channel because I was searching for Cherokee videos since I feel those are a level or 2 above the renegade in capability due mostly because of hp and that rear locker (imo). Bbbbuuuuutttt then I see these guys in their renegades and it reminds me of why I bought one (even if it isn't a trailhawk) and helps me "keep the faith" in my decision lol.
Toycoma I’m a huge fan of the renegade because of its size! We keep making trail rigs bigger and bigger and I feel like the engineers don’t realize we need to fit on the trails too. Honestly, I was thinking about adding a Bronco yet I’m not so sure now due to it’s wider than a JL width (if that’s correct). But back to the renegade, hoping Jeep gives it a proper transfer case and maybe a locker in the future 😈
wranglers are so amazingly capable that we all know what to expect and there isn’t much drama. in that sense, seeing the cherokees and renegades do this stuff is much more interesting. great video! subbed. 👍
Yeah, I love watching them too! Thanks for watching!
One thing that you'll probably see in these videos is that independent suspension provides great traction because slips and bumps on one side don't affect the other side (near as much). That's one reason I think the Cherokee and renegades did better on the tree.
Shopping for a Renegade. This just sealed the deal!!
They are sweet little Jeeps… ignore the gatekeepers (they’re probably the true mallcrawlers).
Those renegades are impressive! They can hold their own
Yeah for sure!
It's actually pretty cool to see the Cherokee and smaller Jeep models go off-road.
I love watching them myself... thanks for watching!
I have an MP Compass, essentially a Renegade with a long WB. She's a brick but capable.
Cherokee driver knew his car very well. Very Impressed
They both are skilled drivers!
The most smooth ride provided by Cherokee drivers 🎉
It's neat to see Jeeps off road that aren't just Wranglers! This is a cool video!
Yeah, I love watching these guys wheel! Thanks for watching!
Renegades just earned a whole more respect from me
They’re awesome little machines!
We have 2. A 16 dawn of justice and a 21 limited. Love the limited with the 1.3 turbo, the DOJ has the 2.4 tiger shark and is greatly underpowered, but I went from. Modded roush to that so I’m biased...lol. Both good vehicles. I want to put a lift and some off-road gear on the 16, it’s getting scuffed up from daily driving som I’m thinking about coating it in bed liner with at least a 2inch lift
I watch way too many wheeling vids on UA-cam and yours are my new favorites, by far!
I really appreciate it! I’m hoping you all like this next one... I’ve edited a rough draft up to obstacle 1 (the flopper). I’ll get to obstacle 2 tomorrow (the v-notch) and maybe bowling ball hill (depends on work). Thanks for watching!
I love seeing all the different jeeps together
Me too... I’m debating adding a Trailhawk myself, but I think want to get the 4XE and try stuff like doing a trail only in electric mode 😂
To the Cherokee driver... you sir are and fine and talented wheeler. I salute you.
Yeah, they both are pretty awesome… they filmed black bear with me yesterday and made it look like a piece of cake. Thanks for watching!
Those little Renegades are pretty impressive. If you just wanted a daily driver that is good in bad weather it looks like a great option.
I absolutely agree!
@@coloradomallcrawlers The thing I like about them compared to say a Crosstrek is no cvt.
I love mine in the snowy midwest, it's a bit sluggish but if you're a bit aggressive with it then you really can't tell too much
Nah
Great job driving by all. I really like how you show that you don't need the fanciest built up Jeep to get out and explore the trails. Looking forward to more!
Thanks Bill! Yeah, trying to show others because building them right is expensive! My next one illustrates what I heard over the years which kinda pushed me to make this youtube! Thanks for watching!
Grab a jeep or whatever yur flavor and get out and enjoy respect
A Jeep is a Jeep .I love all of them ,from Willy to today .
Jeep definitely tries to infuse them all with Jeep DNA, I agree!
@@coloradomallcrawlers It seems like it works well .I'm from Germany ,i should have a BMW i suppose😂
Definitely impressed by those Renegades for sure. Those Cherokees were awesome as well.
Yeah they are!
A lot of the blue Renegades problems would of been solved with just some better A/T tires I think, they did great though.
We’ve told him that, but he loves those tires lol
YEAH! I noticed those tire and even with low thread it handled perfect
Awsome video!! So cool to see the smaller and less conventional jeeps making it through and having fun!
Thank you so much! I love watching them myself!
I’m really glad I went with the Cherokee Trailhawk Elite last week for my new vehicle. I knew it would be capable but your videos make me feel it’s honestly pretty close to even the wrangler with a little lift and tires!
It definitely is in terms of capability... the 4 wheel drive system is well engineered on them. The only difference I see is in articulation and risk of body damage. However a good driver should be able to get them most everywhere!
Literally every video that grey Cherokee is in makes everything looks simple.
Yes he does! The Cherokee is awesome! However, durability is a question mark, still, it’s a great Jeep! Thanks for watching!
Perhaps your best video yet! Loved the editing and camera angles on this one 🙌🏻 Watching that blue Jeep go was something else wow 😳
Alizoid thanks buddy! I’m working on it... thinking I’ll do heavy editing on the trail guides and also occasionally film pretty scouting trips that should be easy to edit... gonna try it on the next one!
Dewie’s Colorado Awesome 😊 Looking forward to it!
Awesome. Love seeing the "little" Jeeps stretching their legs. (from a 4Runner driver!).
Going be editing a new one with a non Trailhawk renegade that really surprised me. Great little wheelers!
I don’t off-road but wish I did. NYS doesn’t have public land for that activity. And I’d probably cry my eyes out anyway if I damaged my Grand Cherokee. But I love watching other people’s videos. And honestly, it’s the crossover type vehicles, like the Renegade, that amaze me the most. They’re just out there punching above their weight class.
It’s a great activity and a great way to see the beauty of the country! Well, until you’re ready, we’ll keep turning out the videos!
Just ran slaughter house today solo after seeing your video. You not kidding those hills are way steeper than they look on video !!
Sweet video keep it up !! 😊✌
Reinholdt Messner yes sir, but that’s what makes them fun! 😉 Will do, trying to crank out the next one, then a few will pop up soon after if I can find a good place to upload at.
It’s hilarious that you actually bleeped bad language in the video. Nice. Love watching.
😂, I thought it was funny too! I miss you buddy... you know you’re our best cameraman and co-producer!
I like Slaughterhouse as it usually doesn't have too deep of snow in the winter and I can still run it in my 2020 Can Am X3 XRC . I used to do it all of the time in my old Arctic Cat as well.
sounds like youve had fun there... thanks for watching!
Okay, I am impressed with the Cherokees but mostly the Renegades. Just shows with a lift and tire upgrade other wise stock vehicle they are more than capable. Glad I found your channel, thank you.
The renegades are sweet! They’re quite durable too and I like that a lot. The next trail guide has a non-Trailhawk renegade and he’s getting that in better shape for trails so I bet we’ll see more renegades in 2023!
I JUST bought a Renegade Desserthawk. This video has me salivating.
They are fun little off-roaders for sure! Thanks for watching!
My wife has a Renegade. We ran it through some deep water recently running with the lifted wranglers. It lost a fuse from sitting with the fan under water too long, but held it's own. The guide for the day kept stopping and telling us he couldn't believe the Rene was keeping up. They could really use locking diffs, but the engineers claim the diffs aren't strong enough. The Cherokee can be had with a rear locker, but the available gear ratios are different. No swap option. Sucks.
Great video! You have a new subscriber.
I’m absolutely with you! The engineers need to figure it out and give the trailhawks the option, like a renegade Trailhawk recon or something. Anyway, I should have a Renegade for Tincup pass this weekend and I have no doubt he’ll keep up with us there. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you subscribing!
Just bought a 2021 Renegade Trailhawk...great all around little jeep, great gas mileage and more than capable for offroading. Nice video!!!
They are sweet Jeeps for sure! Thanks for watching!
I just went to my local Jeep dealership to look at a Renegade Trailhawk. I will be buying g one soon.
Very cool, they’re sweet little machines!
@@coloradomallcrawlers as I seen. Thanks for the video😊👍
Love your stock wheeling videos. I've avoided several of the trails you review based on Funtreks difficult rating but with your videos and variety of vehicles these seem a lot more doable than the impression I get from the guidebooks. See you on the trail!
Absolutely! I recommend starting with lower rated trails and work your way up! The goal is for the videos to be accurate tho. Thanks for watching!
Tires tires tires. That blue renegade did well and some of those trouble areas would have been a lot easier with better traction which I'm sure he's aware of😁
He wheels that Jeep well and I’ll be sad to see him move to another vehicle. However, I’m sure we’ll still get good video on the new ride once he has it. Thanks for watching!
I agree. Looks like it would do so much better with a little bit more aggressive tire.
He likes those tires tho! I think he wants to put them on his Bronco.
@@coloradomallcrawlers That's fine if he wants to keep them. Nothing wrong with that, but that Renegade needs more bite. Higher traction tires will make Renegade look even better, especially since there's still a lot of people who rag on it.
As a renegade Trailhawk owner I can say tires are the hardest thing to figure out. Either they aren’t aggressive enough, or they are too big to fit or turn. Very hard to find the perfect tires!
Jeep forever !
Jeep Cult, must have a few different models to truly enjoy, never trade them, just add . They are all special in their own way ✌🦆
@Tim Cincade
It would be cool to collect them ,but unfortunatly the money...
@@samkangal8428 money is definitely getting harder to come by . I definitely have to save and sacrifice for them , but taking more time . Fortunately you can pick up old GC , Libbey, Commander, Patty's Cherokees for a decent price to go wheeling with or a side Jeep. But Wranglers a little bit more cash for that but shop around you could find a good deal ✌
Having two renegades in the house I love to see how capable are those little machines!
My dad might be getting one!
@@coloradomallcrawlers don’t hesitate!
Good Job, well done👍🏻👏🏻
I have a Renegade with a Rooftent too
Not a Trailhawk, only the Softie Street Model. Nice to see what is possible with a Baby Jeep. 😉
The same Tracks with a Hybrid Renegade was nice to see.
Have fun and be fine
Nice regards from Germany (near Heidelberg)
Stephan 👋🏻
I love Germany! Right before COVID-19, I did a train trip through your country and it was amazing! I’d like to go back and explore more of it off-road. Thanks for watching!
So much pressure! Looks like a lot of fun though.
Yeah it was a blast... definitely a great group! Thanks for watching!
I need to stop binge watching this channel. My wife is getting jealous. Lol
😂
Fantastic job on the trail guide. That looks like a fun trail. Makes me wish we had trails like that here in Texas.
Thank you! Well, luckily Texas isn’t too far away 😉.
I'm not 100% sure but I think there is one around Bastrop Texas somewhere between Austin and Houston
I love my Renegade Trailhawk! Crazy that they do better than wranglers in some situations! I did the Alpine Loop and Imogene and Ophir Passes with my Renegade and loved its capabilities!
Size definitely matters! Really hoping Jeep realizes this and upgrades the renegade further for more difficult off-roading in stock configurations. Nimbleness definitely matters, thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I live up in Gillette near Devils Tower, I’d love to come down there and do some trails with you guys.
Come on! Going to Moab next Wednesday and Thursday to do some filming, but in the summer, things should be more flexible.
@@coloradomallcrawlers I’m a manager at the ice rink up here (I basically drive a Zamboni for a living. 😏) our season isn’t over yet so trips are out of the question. But once May is over I’ll be able to hit trips and trails! Are you on JROG?
@@joerivs80 sounds good, nah, I don’t own a renegade, but I’ll likely try to pick up the hybrid in the future.
Call video I enjoyed seeing the all-wheel-drive versus four-wheel-drive . It’s cool to see just how far those all-wheel-drive systems can go
poobank I’m not well versed on their systems, but I know the Cherokee has a true low range and locker. The renegades may be a simulated low range. It’s definitely intriguing. Jeep developed an AWD/4WD for the JL so I know the tech is getting good enough that Jeep is trusting it in their flagship off-roader. Thanks for watching!
Those little renegades are surprising for sure, but good hell that exhaust note is horrendous.
They sure and I never paid attention to that, but I could see it.
You got over 50,000 views on this video.
Looks like viewers like to see a variety of different Jeeps going on a trail together to see how each Jeep model handles the trail.
Thanks buddy! I love when I can get different models going through a trail together… timing is the biggest hurdle tho.
Great filming and editing on this one too! So much fun off roading in the 🌧
It sure is, although not the best for capturing Colorado’s beauty! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for all of your videos. Very well detailed.
I really appreciate that!
Congratulations to Renegades from Brazil. It was epic!
Thank you! They’re sweet little vehicles!
Yes thank you for this! I want more ideas for my renny! I'm in CO and got a renegade trailhawk for its city + mtn versatility. I'm trying to figure out my first mods, now that it's nearing winter I might wait until spring. But I'm thinking lift 1.5-2", not sure what tires yet but I'd like to go 2 sizes bigger and hopefully not need wheel spacers, though I haven't figured out if they actually do anything other than allowing for larger tires, and then rails. As of now though I've done a few moderate (trails offroad rating 3-4) as stock and she's done splendid!
Lauren Clack of course! I’d suggest joining the Facebook group modified renegades and Devyn and Davon are part of a Colorado Trailhawk group. That should help you find the information you need. Thanks for watching!
I just seen the lovely lady's renegade build on tfl's channel and that made me want a renegade more especially now seeing it in action and she is still on stock tires in this video
Yeah, they are great little Jeeps! I’m definitely interested in getting one myself!
Great video!
Thank you!
Nice rainy vibes
I was going for that! Thanks for noticing!
Great video!
Thank you!
Being as I only have a sport model I do not have the lower range or height these do, it will be interesting to see my ability on the steeper/more technical trails.
Driver skill is always key in my book.
Those renegades sound like the power is badly cutting out from the computer. Kick ass video!
Yeah, it’s our biggest complaint with them... I think their size is perfect, but Jeep needs to give them more power for wheeling. If so, they might be little unstoppable machines. Thanks for watching!
The 2.4 engine is certainly too weak for Jeepin’ when combined with street gearing and a low-stall torque converter. The 2.4 engined Jeeps without low-range get into ruts where all four wheels have traction, the throttle is floored, and no wheels will spin - it can’t deliver enough torque to the wheels to go. Very un-Jeeplike.
It is, on the other hand, very Subaru-like. The 2.5 CVT-equipped Subaru’s have the same problem, for which Subiphobes offer every excuse in the book, and are often seen in a rut while trailing, with the gas pedal floored and nary a wheel turning.
It even shames me to have to compare the off-road performance of a Jeep with that of a Subaru ...
@@sking2173 I have a 2020 Renegade TH with the 1.3l Turbo has more torque. The few times I have been out I have not seemed to have the power cut like the older years with the 2.4.
@@ajsedlacek - Glad to hear that you are pleased with the Renegade’s performance. I have yet to drive the 1.3 ... I had hoped that it was better than the 2.4 on the trails.
The 2.0 turbo in the Cherokee is a capable lump, and it would certainly wake up the Renegade/Compass. I have assumed that Jeep didn’t want to cannibalize Cherokee sales by putting that engine in the two smaller offerings.
@@sking2173 I was talking with a buddy about exactly this. If money were not an object, would love to try to transplant that entire drivetrain into a Renegade.
Very nice. The weather made it a little more challenging with the slippery conditions. slaughterhouse looks like it would be fun even a Wrangler on 37’s. I hope someday soon to get back to Colorado and try it out....
Mike Robbins For sure! Yeah, it’s definitely fun, but Jeep on 37s would have a blast on the trail I just got back from... wheeler lake! So much fun and required my best to get through it.
Wow, Renegades are beast!;
They are!
Great video man! I'm grabbing a Renegade pretty soon here can't wait to get it out on some trails!
Trend they’re definitely fun! The one I’m editing now has a completely stock renegade in it! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I look forward to watching it!
Impressed by the Cherokee's performance. Renegade also did much better than I expected but the Cherokee make some of that look easy even compared to the Wrangler. Also, I think I saw that white Renegade in the TFL channel on the "I love or hate my ride?"
Yeah, I really liked how this video shows the differences between the vehicles. The wrangler is a beast tho, it was just aired up and on bald tires. Still, I wouldn’t mind owning any of these vehicles! Yes sir, she was driving the 4 door unlimited here and her husband took control of the renegade, but that was her. Thanks for watching!
Tremendous Video!!!!
Thank you! It was a blast to film and edit!
People talk crap about that little Renegade but it gets the job done with a little bit of after market pieces.
Absolutely!
The Renegades sound like hairdryers, but did much better than expected...
I think they sound cool. Like little gremlins
Fearless trailhawk, as you see, we embrace our tree crossing out here ;)
Sean Watson well that tree was stupid... you’re supposed to be able to get one tire over, then the other... what’s this straight on nonsense on an incline. Not going to get in between you two, but I’m pretty sure Fearless has walked us around his KL, you have not 😉🤣
@@coloradomallcrawlers 😂😂😂😂 in due time I will
There is a difference between what i cut off the trails and this. I would have driven over this one. Though i suspect that as it gets more and more dug out, this tree will be cut by the end of the year.
@@FearlessTrailhawk that's possible. I think we would have tried yours anyway. I don't know if ours was supposed to be down or not. But it was fun anyway
That looks so much fun. Use to have a kL Trailhawk with a lift, duratracs and sliders and loved the thing. Have a lifted frontier pro-4x now but would love to go with you guys at some point
Yeah! If you’re around, we like frontiers and I’d like to see more of them in the videos!
@@coloradomallcrawlers
Near Westminster/Broomfield so not far
Not meant to be a harsh criticism so please don't take it as such, I love your videos, that said you're unnecessarily chewing up the trail and making it harder for those that come after you by not airing down at least a bit
While editing these videos I watch closely how the tires interplay with the terrain. I notice very little difference in my videos between my aired up tires and the others who are aired down. It really just comes down to how much throttle is applied. I follow Jim Allen’s philosophy on airing down and it works well. It’s an additional traction aid. Also, as a manual driver, I feel I have a better feel for the terrain when aired up which allows me to work the clutch more efficiently. Thanks for watching!
Thanks, great video.
Thank you!
Awesome video Dewie! ,,, great commentary and beautiful scenery! Keep up the good work 👍👍 (N + * at the same time )😊
Thanks buddy! Yeah, I’m just going call the dispatcher and make them do it for me 🤣
Dewie’s Colorado haha there you go!,, just make sure you not diverging! 🤣
I’ve never been into off roading but I kinda want a Renegade now.
Off-roading is the gateway to exploring the land… I definitely recommend it!
Amazing video!!!!! I used to have a Renegade!
Thank you!
Your best looking video yet!
Thanks buddy! I’m getting better I think... I think the next one will be one of the most scenic ones yet. Plus, it should be a piece of cake to edit, unlike this one 😂
Took my stock 2014 F-150 on the trail, didn't do all the obstacles, but made it through ok, the worst part is having a longer wheel base for some of the humps...running boards touched about a dozen times.
I could definitely see that! I’d consider adding rock rails. Thanks for watching!
i think maybe the 1.3 turbo may be a little bit better than the 2.4.i dont know for sure but i like my 2023 renegade trailhawk.was really impressed by the cherokees
Yeah it’s possible! I wish I knew the answer, that’d be a fun little test.
These lil mitymites are getting some! Nice trail guide, any history to the trail? Why its there? Loved your shots, very well put together. I am in awe of your talents! Hahaha that log made the wranglers look bad! Woo, that blue ones workin it, lil billy goat! These guys gotta try the Rubicon 🤣 you? May need some more practice. 😂 just joshing, great vid i had fun the more lax the footage got and the commentary too!🤣
I don’t have much history on it, but that’s definitely something I need to add... I have started using GAIA’s 1900s and 1930s maps to help with the historical aspect. As of 1900 (no 1930 map in this area), nothing in this area. The railroad went through Bailey (pretty close) and it looks like the road towards the trail was a wagon road. Thanks so much! I just want the vehicles to look great! I could see them being willing to give it a go. 🤣🤣🤣... I definitely need the practice, just wait for my next one, I got roasted 😂. Yeah, I’ll constantly be experimenting... the commentary on the next one is all one take and go, not sure if that’ll be a good thing 😝 🤣. Thanks for the support buddy!
@@coloradomallcrawlers i to enjoy the map overlays and have thought i also should add some history. Dude the candid camera stuff was golden, looking forward to the next one.
Pretty awesome 👊 😁 👍 🇺🇲
Thank you!
good views, great vehicle!
Thank you! They sure are!
What they have do better in the n'est renegade 2022. Im looking to get one son but im not sure if i should wait some years or go strait to the 2022
Warranty and apparently the new motor is better... watch Davon’s walkaround for more info.
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Love the renegade, just alittle to much power cut when it’s trying to figure out where to put traction down
No rock mode! o auto o mud and sand.... does not cut power.
That looks like fun. I wish I had a trail hawk renegade rather than a 4x4 Dawn of justice
I don’t know much about the differences between the two, but I’m sure yours is a sweet Jeep!
My only complaint about the Trailhawk is that even if you mash the throttle against a obstacle, it seems the engine is being limited... where as when you watch the Cherokee at 13:07 you can tell that its allowing the engine to rev more which seems to help him. Granted it has a bigger motor, but just my observation
Possibly, we all are constantly learning and improving... I still don’t feel I have the JK mastered like I had my TJs. Sean has done some incredible stuff in the Trailhawk but I’ll let him check this comment out. He’s always looking to get better as we all are. Thanks for watching!
Bigdawg that is a good observation here.. the difference really comes down to torque and not having a proper low range. The renegades "4low" technically locks them in 1st gear , but still the only have about 185 or some odd foot pounds of torque. The cherokee, whether it's the.3.2 liter pentastar v6 or the 2 liter turbo 4 like I have not only have a proper dual pto low range transfer case , but my Jeep has over 100 more foot lbs of torque. That really makes the difference in crawling situations like this. I didn't have any issues having enough power to walk up that. We talk constantly about how jeep needs to give the renegades more torque and how much more capable that would make them. Really good observation though, because the bigger engine and significantly more torque makes all the difference in the world
I was wondering if the limited rpm was a traction control thing or something of that nature. Definitely not going to be able to clean the tire out or get any heat in it if it won’t spin.
@@rustyhester6199 Exactly it cuts the horsepower because they used rock as the select terrain mode...if you use auto with lock and low and press the esp key to deactivate the traction control it doesn't cut the horsepower...rocvk cuts it electronically so you don't crash the car on the rocks.
Sweet. Looks like fun. I would love to come out riding with you guys sometime. I'm in the Denver area.
blkmtl96 absolutely, find me on Facebook as that’s how I arrange group rides. What do you have?
@@coloradomallcrawlers hahaha that's actually how I found this. Im the one that got the orange renegade last week
Oh heck yeah!
Loved you video! I have a 2018 Jeep Renegade Turbo. I lifted it 4 inches and put bigger K02 tires. Got a winch in the front with recovery points and tow hitch recovery. Seeing all your mods is making me want to do more to my little rig! I have yet to find a Renegade Club in the Bay Area or a Renegade with mods besides mine (ಥ﹏ಥ)
Well, I’m not the renegade owner so I’m not sure what the appropriate amount of mods are. Just be careful, mods can affect your reliability. If I get a renegade, I’ll likely keep it stock to see how far I can get a stock one. Thanks for watching and good luck finding some fellow Renegade owners!
I'd like to know where I could get one of those renegade lifts.
Facebook groups are great for getting that info. Modified Jeep Renegade is a group I’m in that can likely provide expertise!
Fun looking trail! Keep up the good work! Don't get me wrong, the BU's are okay at basic stuff, but their lack of low range really hinders their ability to do the more moderate obstacles without lots of rock stacking. And using high-range 1st gear for that long and hard isn't gentle on components either, but since they lack the low range, they have to use more speed, which is also a great way to bust steering components.
Fearless Trailhawk Yeah, but the size is awesome! I’m hoping Jeep gives them an upgrade!
@@coloradomallcrawlers imo, they are waay to tippy. I've seen more of those on their sides/tops than anything else. And then all these people are ADDING more weight to the very top...further increasing their roller over chance.
Fearless Trailhawk maybe so, but Davon has run Hell’s Gate with his so maybe a good driver can handle it! Those two Renegades wheel a lot!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Good driver still can't beat physics, and physics says those flop very easily compared to every other 'offroader', even worse than FJ cruisers. Yes he's taken it through some trails, but that doesnt change the physics. Hells Gate looks a lot scarier than it is, seen lots of vids of rigs looking like they would flop but not.
Fearless Trailhawk well maybe so, but they seemed balanced with my only experience with them. However, I don’t drive one so I don’t know.
Is that a roof tent on the blue Renegade? What is the make /model?
Yes, it’s a roofnest falcon. We will do a walkaround of that renegade once I get back to Denver.
I AM BIG FAN OF YOUR VIDDEOS, THANKS FOR UPLOADING. IS THAT RENEGADE LIFTED.
It is! There’s a walkaround of it on the channel… thumbnail is it on top of the world overlook. Thanks for watching!
That dark cherokee had real low tire pressure you can see the grip. But holy cow I didn't know the renegades so good off-road. Its shape is perfect it's just needs more torque and better locker or awd system. I might go with a bronco sport but kinda wanna testdrive a renegade 😂 its like a better looking Fj
I agree!
those renegades have an unusual sound to them. almost like the engine isnt directly connect to the trans, maybe a CVT or something, but like the way the engine pegs out at a steady rpm, and the trans is taking that power and moving it around to the different wheels. but.. seems like thats going to be tough on clutches inside the trans. honestly it looks like they could use more power. you can tell the compass has more power and the vehicle actually lets itself use it.
I usually don’t care about the sound, I’m more for how they person the trail. Thanks for watching!
It's the torque system, it's not a true 4x4 but it's an awd that will slip power to each wheel in order to gain traction, the low mod locks it into the first gear that isn't used for normal driving.
what engines are in the Renegades? 2.4s or turbos? Great content here and well done!
This was a long time ago, I thought I put it on an info screen. If not, I have a walkaround of the blue renegade.
on zach's trail hawk what lift does he use? he's got the same set up i want
It should be noted in the video. I think he had a 2in lift here, but he may have had the 3in lift. The 3in lift seems to wear out the vehicle much quicker tho.
I had a renegade trailhawk best decision I made was to trade it in on a Rubicon
I definitely like the renegade, but I’m glad you’re happy with the decision... Rubicons have served me well.
Let me start off by saying *old guy here**who had a CJ-7 kidney rattler back in the day. Second year production 1977 The original *Renegade* and later the 2nd year 1988 YJ *Original* Wrangler.
Go modern design Jeeps! The rolling brick snobs hate them but I love my 2015 Jeep *second year* reinvented Cherokee Trailhawks shark nose! It's the reason why I bought it brand spankin new. It looks like a Jeep that was designed in the 21st century!Yeah it's not solid axel but it is unibody like the original. Has a much tamer ride with it's independent suspension. It looks exactly like something Willy's Motors would have had on display at the 1964 Worlds Fair!
"The Jeep of the Future! 😏 Sleek,luxurious, and capable" It is like a childhood dream to own this vehicle. I wouldn't expect you youngsters to understand the significance of that😒
But it's just what an old fart who likes the woods needs😏
Not a rehash of the 1940 flat fender.
I wouldn't have a problem with the reinvented Renegade if it was available with the 3.2 liter that's in the Cherokee. Its compact kinda like the Willy's or CJ5 and acts totally capable *when modded* but just a bit underpowered.
**Then again wasn't the original Willy's 50-60 horses?** Anyway,
2015 Cherokee T H
3.2 V-6 with 2" lift on 245/ 70/17 Cooper discoverer AT4S gives me a respectable 11.7" of ground clearance.
2" is max safe height to avoid drive axel strain. And sticking with the 245 width in a 70 series, the 1" taller tire makes no need for pinch weld mod,plus the spare fits in the original spare tire well!👍 Currently sitting on stock shocks and springs.
Next upgrade Dobson or Fox 👍You'll all be old and grey one day...(if you aren't already 🙄)
Wisdom kids....Wisdom. I didn't grow up until I was 60.. Actually.. I never grew up!🤣 Follow my lead👍
I’m likely never growing up lol. I liked your comment and your perspective! Thanks for sharing!
Greetings Jeep Grand father, I'm 3rd generation Cult the last of the AMC years with a few Kaisers still around. I would freeze to death in the 79 CJ 7 and was worse in the 75 CJ5 . I'm 50 and hair falling out and love heated seats , ac , don't have to get out and lock the hubs. It's incredible what big J has done. I currently have a17 JKU , 17 MK and a 15 WK2 . I love each one for different reasons but they are all solid Jeeps no matter what model , Big J wrote the book on 4 wheel drive , and your generation 2nd and 1st taught the 3rd mine , now my kids are 4th and 5th and Jeep Cult life continues. Thank you Mr Bob, sir you guys are pioneers ✌🦆
Is that cherokee v6? Seems like it has more tq than the renegades
The black one has a V6, the grey one has the 4 turbo. Thanks for watching!
That was fun to watch! I thought about getting a Renegade, but bought a KL/TH, as I wanted the true low range. The capability of the Renegades in the video were impressive, but it sounds like the engines were working very hard. The KL's transmission temp goes way up when using 4wdHi on the trail. Were they looking at the Renegade's transmission temp on those tough sections? The Renegade Zf9/PTU will probably blow up even faster than the KL's/TH do, working them that hard with no true 4wdLo. Both were sure doing great in your video! Wow!
Both are excellent drivers for sure and soon we’ll do a walk around of the blue one. He’s getting a big bronco soon tho. Yeah, they were getting hot on that one obstacle they struggled on, but besides that, handled the terrain well! Thanks man! We appreciate it!
@@coloradomallcrawlers A new Bronco would be great to see in action! That'd be great for your channel, when you get the Bronco in action! I'll probably never get to Colorado, but I sure like to see these rigs in action on the trails there!
I just found this and love the videos. My main question is always “did you use lockers?” I always wonder how much my JLU Sport S can do since it’s stock (other than rockers and skids) and only has the LSD rear.
I wheeled an open diff wrangler for 10 years, it’s way more capable than many will give it credit for. Additionally, your traction control system can mimic a locker somewhat (it requires careful manipulation of the throttle to get it engaged). So to answer your question, I did use lockers in these videos unless I note that I did... I think I used them on Hackett Gulch (to avoid wrecking the terrain), Cliffhanger 2.0, and Kelly Flats (due to bad driving). In the future, I’ll do a better job of documenting what I’m using on the guides, but I rarely use lockers. With all this said, don’t wheel alone. I will and it’s hypocritical for me to say that, but I can usually figure a way to get my Jeep unstuck if it happens (airing down, lockers, stacking, traction boards). Anyway, thanks for watching!
Any tips and tricks on climbing in a 2021 jeep trail hawk !? I have the same one in the video and I’m going out soon for the 1st time in this jeep!
Have good rock rails and just know how to operate your vehicle. Sorry for the late reply, I’m just now seeing this.
Did this with an 81 subaru gl wagon.
Nice!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Now I do it with an 88XJ
Not bad at all!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I appreciate the Co. trails you show. Watched most of them.
Cherokee is the beast
It is!
All jeeps matter!🇺🇸🎇🎆🎊🎉
All Jeepers matter lol
I am honestly blown away by these little Jeeps, they get a lot of hate from 'real' Jeep fans (I mean narrow minded pricks with sticks up their butts) but they dont get the fact that Renegade is how Jeeps stays in the market, makes more sales and can continue to make the best 4x4s. I have nothing but respect for all Renegade owners for taking their Jeeps wheelin
Well said! Plus, the whole product line fuel mileage thing... buying credits from Tesla seems dumb. Thanks for watching!
Man, if you could sneak a locker into a renegade is would be hilarious fun
Trust me, many of the renegade wheelers want one… it’s just not currently possible. Thanks for watching!
I wonder how the new subaru wilderness would handle this?
I don’t know, maybe as good as the renegade I’d guess.