when hasek played for actual good teams when he was 40 he was still the best goalie in the league. Imagine him with the devils his whole career. Hasek for all
brodeur: mr consistent roy: clutch when it mattered in the p-off's. hasek: acrobatic and did a lot on weaker teams b4 coming to detroit all 3 were great goalies. whomever you like, there's no wrong answer.
Fantastic logic. Brodeur is my #1… totally absolutely 0 bias there. None at all. Hate the devils, don’t have an enormous merch collection or watch all of the games or anything like that. Don’t know why I said all that because it’s all true 🤞🏻
@jakemichalowicz1403 thanks for your kind words. my favorite of the 3 is actually hasek lol. nonetheless am trying to appreciate all 3 goalies. all 3 were great in their own ways.
That 2000-2001 final was an all time classic. What a joy it was to see two of the best goalies of all time faceoff, and both were surrounded by juggernaut lineups! That was some of the best hockey I'll ever see
I got to see both Hasek and Brodeur (they each played 30 minutes) in Linkoping, Sweden during the 2004-2005 lockout. They were the goalies for the NHL World Stars team that played against a bunch of european teams on a two-week tour. Brodeur winked at me and my buddy as he was stretching at the player bench. We had front row seats behind their coach Marty McSorley. And Tie Domi was on the team as well. It was an unforgettable evening and I am one of the few who loved that there was a lockout or I never would have seen these guys play.
Brodeur played during 3 Lockout seasons: 1994-1995; 2004-2005; 2012-2013. He would have retired with 700 wins instead of 691 wins if it wasn't for those lockouts.
How many of those wins came because of the shootout though? Somewhere around half of them would have been ties. *edit: Marty B has 60 shootout wins. More than any goalie ever. So subtract 60.
@@kirkjordan8718 You're assuming that the first 60 minutes of those games would have been played the exact same way if the shootout didn't exist. I'm not sure that's a safe assumption.
@Peter Drake I mean I guess you're right but that's getting super technical. But watch me spin this into that the game should be played out always as in playoff overtimes. The games would have been played the same under your logic. And if we were to play the game out in overtime until their was a winner, then history shows that most playoff overtime victories go Roy 40 Belfour 22 Fuhr 18 Brodeur 16 Marty isn't as good as Roy. That's why Roy beat him in the finals. And Roy gave them game 5 too.
That last year with the Blues was because Jersey went crazy firing DeBoer and making 3 head coaches behind the bench. Marty needed out, and the Blues helped get him out of there. Brodeur had a front office Job with the Blues after that, which did help-ish with recruiting for the 2019 Cup team. We totally have a Brodeur Blues Jersey to go with the Gretzky Blues one. The STL gig is also how he got into the Enterprise commercials.
so important notes: 1. devils traded for Cory Schneider in the 2013 offseason after missing the playoffs. DeBoer did NOT help with the development of the kids on the team and that 2012 team was the last hurrah of those great 90s-2000s Devils teams. Marty wanted to play but it was obvious it wasn't going to work long term seeing that Cory was a more than capable starter also sitting behind Luongo in Vancouver. 2. lose mid 2010s devils teams were BAD. wasted a lot of Cory's good years on those teams and he was out of gas when they made the playoffs in 2018. 3. thankfully NJ brought him back into a management role but there was a bit of bad blood between the two
Great deep dive! big devils fan and Marty is my guy, got to basically see every game and many of them in person include cup clinchers and lots of shutouts, had an incredible glove and he revolutionized the position so much the nhl had to change the rules because of his stick handling prowess…sucks he had three lockouts during his career
When I was running shows in the 90's in Mtl my photographer was Marty's Dad, Denis :) We had a lot of fun, and Marty did his first autograph gigs with me to the point that his agent, Gilles Lupien, called me up screaming that I was stealing his client (which I wasn't. ) Great guy, great family, and best goalie in NHL history.
The 06-07 season statistics are just silly, if you think about it. Post-lockout NHL was an offensive league, scoring was way up from the Dead Puck Era (which favoured NJ's play-style) and the man tallied 12 shutouts(!) Almost plays a full 82-game season. Almost 50 wins in one season. I couldn't even get my created goalie to achieve those numbers on rookie, man.
Brodeur was considered having a 3rd defenseman on the ice. His stick handling skills let him stretch the ice out and they changed the rules of hockey with the trapezoid.
One other thing thats interesting about Brodeur, was that he was one of the last goalies to use the old-school "standing" style of goaltending, that was common up until the late 80's. Ever since than, goalies (even today) overutilize the butterfly technique and geometry to make the necessary saves. He only used to butterfly when he needed to, if he could avoid kneeling on the ice, he would.
1993-94 was the season where the neutral zone trap became controversial. Jacques Lemaire implemented it when he became coach of the Devils, which coincided with their rise to prominence as one of the NHL's best franchises. I remember all of the complaining about how the trap was ruining hockey. As someone who became a hockey fan in the early 70's, I saw it as a return to the sound defensive hockey I grew up with, and preferred it to the offense only hockey of the mid to late 80's. The Rangers-Devils semi final in 1994 was the best playoff series I ever saw (the 1974 semi final between the Rangers and Flyers was a close second).
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS. My favorite player as a kid and the reason i am a devils fan now. (Also wanted to be a goalie as a kid but dont get asthma kids)
Marty losing a full year in his prime with the 04-05 stoppage hurts as a NJD fan. That's another great shot at the cup with Niedermayer and Rafalski still on the team, and easily over 700 wins for his career. Stats aside (and being my favorite Devil of all-time) I agree with others commenting: Roy best Playoff Performer Hasek best Peak Brodeur best Career
Is there a video on Ken Dryden yet? He's the most underrated candidate for best goalie in NHL history, never saw him play but by god those stats for a career consisting of over 350 games as a goalie is heavenly.
Marty Brodeur is one of the best goalies I have ever seen play the game. I may not be a devils fan, but I was a fan of his for awhile. He was consistently great year in and year out. It was never in doubt that he would make the hockey hall of fame.
I met Marty recently as his son plays for Manchester Storm who are my local team, and he was a very nice guy. Not sure why but I imagined he’d be a little more aloof, but in reality he couldn’t do enough for the fans. That said, Roy will always be number one for me 😂
I’ve been a Devils fan since my first game against the Habs in 1993, but I’ve always considered Marty the 3rd best goalie I’ve seen, Hasek and Roy being 1 and 2. There was something special about Hasek’s freakishness and Roy was the ultimate competitor. Nothing against Marty, though. He’s still the greatest player my team has ever had. Then again, if Hughes continues on his path that may be a debate in fifteen years.
30" Martin Brodeur. # 21 NHL seasons with 17 seasons of play-offs. # 3 Stanley Cup Championships in 5 Finals. # 2 Olympic gold medals (2002 & 2010). # World Cup gold medalist (2004) + silver medalist (1996). # 2 IIHF World Championship silver medals (1996 & 2005). # 4-time Vezina Trophys: 2003, 2004, 2007 & 2008 + 9 nominations: 1997, 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 & 2010. # 5-time William M. Jennings Trophy: 1997, 1998, 2003, 2004 & 2010. # Calder Memorial Trophy: 1994. # 3-time NHL First All-Star Team: 2003, 2004 & 2007. # 4-time NHL Second All-Star Team: 1997, 1998, 2006 & 2008. # 9-time NHL All-Star Game Player: 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004 & 2007. # 3-time Hart Memorial Trophy nominations: 2003, 2004 & 2007. # The Salute, a bronze statue of Martin Brodeur by Jon Krawczyk, was installed outside Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey in 2016. # Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame 2018. # 30" retired by New Jersey Devils.
I know Roy lost his final OT game against a MINDLESS robot of a Minnesota team in 2003. But Patrick Roys OT record is like 47-19??? Sister-deurs playoff OT record is about opposite of that. Get it??? BRO-deur, SISTER-deur.
Yes we get it. It’s a popular misconception of what actually happened. But do your research. He didn’t do anyone’s sister. He married his wife’s brother’s wife. Which would have been his sister in law. You can find the details elsewhere but the joke is beyond long in the tooth at this point.
His longevity also has to do with him being the last goalie to use a noticeable amount of a stand-up style. The fact he could do it so effectively is freakish. But the point is, easier to play more often, for more years, and be fresher when you're able to stay on your feet to make a save.
Flames and Devils are my favorite teams and I absolutely love Brodeur, he's probably my favorite goalie of all time. But it still stings a little knowing the Flames and Devils swapped picks at the 1990 draft so the Flames could move up to pick Kidd over Brodeur
I watched Devils playoffs hockey alot back then and i think Shannon underrates some of the saves Marty had to make. Yes, he didnt have to consistently face barrages that other goalies had too but he was there when he needed to be. And i remember quite a few ten bell saves that Marty had to make in those big games that were as impressive as any save i ever saw Roy make. I see this argument used alot to lower Marty down the list and while i understand it, i don't a hundred percent ageee. Im not going to hold the fact that Marty had a great defense and a great defensive system in front of him against him. He still had to go out and make those saves and keep his concentration up to not give up a costly goal and i have seen golies that struggle with keeping focus in those situations. Plus, are we going to ignore (at least as it pertains to Roy) that Patrick also had some really great defensive teams in front of him? We use it against Marty but Patrick also had some outstanding defenses in front of him too. Those Montreal teams in the 80s were loaded with great 2 way forwards lile Guy Carbaneau and Bob Gainey and solid D men led by Chris Chelios and an older Larry Robinson (and in the 90s Eric Dejardians developed). And in Colorado, he had Foote and eventually Bourque and Blake there. And thats not including some of the lesser solid but still good D men they had in mid to late 90s. That Colorado team in 2001 was a fantastic defensive hockey team. They had the big guns on offense like Sakic and Forsberg and Hejduk and such. But they were a very good defensive team. Ill give you Hasek as he almost had to carry Buffalo to wins most nights by just being dominant but i would say Roy also benefited from having strong defenses in front of him. The Devils may have been better but i dont think the gap was massive. And lets not also forget that the coaches who brought that system to New Jersey played for the Canadians and learned it there. So, while Patrick was amazing, he also was pretty fortuitous to play in Montreal which had a great hockey tradition and then get moved to Colorado when they were about ready to take off.
As a Blues Fan, I’m not surprised that they sign a legendary goaltender. Like, Glenn Hall, Jacques Plante, Grant Fuhr And Tom Barrasso. Although, Martin Brodeur finished his career with The Blues, He started his career in the office with St.Louis. Marty Brodeur the greatest of all time M
As a Devils fan, I have to say that Martin was basically the only STABLE option in the Jersey defense. Even with talents like Scott Stevens, Scott Niedermayer, Ken Daneyko and Brian Rafalski and others who were either too old, or liked to run forward a lot, or didn't shine with consistency. Brodeur was the only one standing and holding the position, sometimes even becoming the third defender, wielding his stick like a magician with a magic wand, scoring scores and removing danger from his goal. It was he who largely contributed to the success of the Devils in the 94/95 cup seasons with their American equivalent of the Soviet "Voskresensk sack", and in the 99/2000 season, when the New Jersey Devils were a team without weaknesses. The 2002/2003 season became his benefit at all - with a rather weak roster, he showed who the main defender was in Jersey, and swept the team on his shoulders to the Stanley Cup, gaining three matches to zero in the final against Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Neither Roy or Hasek could do that. Therefore, I will say right away: Hasek to waivers Nabokov for the match Roy for the series Brodeur for the career
I don't think i've ever looked at his stats sheet before. I usually don't look up goalie stats they aren't as interesting to me as goals and assists. But these stats are insane! He played 70+ games every year and put up elite stats. He play 77 or more games 3 times? What? What a beast! How did he play this much so well for so long? Its baffling! He should have won at least 1 conn smythe trophy. And probably all 3 for every time they won the cup.
It helped he didn't face as many shots as most goalies, with the NJ system. So he wasn't as over worked as many. But yeah 65-70 games in those days was the norm for the best tenders
@@mjk06 i think he would have still put up decent stats on s bad team. He wouldn't have won as many games and had a higher GAA but his save% would have stayed about the same i bet. He was steady and composed the whole way. The most consistent goaltender and possibly most consistent player period.
@@lenkennedy9214 No I meant because most nights he didn't face as many shots as most goalies, he was able to play that many games a season as his work load wasn't as bad. I wasn't talking about his stats bud.
I was watching the martin brodeur top 100 nhl player video today and I was wondering if you made a career video on him. And now it just appear on my feed. That's pretty crazy!
If you were Brodeur’s backup for the 06-07 and 07-08 seasons you would have started fewer than 10 games across BOTH seasons combined, and Marty would have more shutouts than you have starts. What!
I think New Jersey's old "Super Trap" style was totally dedicated to defensive hockey, and this undoubtedly lengthened Brodeur's career. With that said, this guy was a beast in net and justifiably earned his spot as one of the best goalies who ever played in the NHL.
When people say that Brodeur didn't face a lot of shots because o the Devils defense, they are forgetting all the work that Marty himself did to limit shots against himself. They had to change the rules to prevent him from continuing to do it. Brodeur handled the puck better than any goal and would frequently make tape to tape breakout passes to his defensemen. Also his rebound control was better than just about anyone else.
As a Devils fan, 1) Hasek, 2) Roy, 3) Brodeur As Steve Dangle says "When you're a goalie, tend the goal", and nobody in NHL history has stopped the puck better than Hasek.
THG original Brodeur video is how I found this channel, but to add to the debate if New Jerseys defense is the reason behind Brodeur career succes why are there only 2 Devils defencman in the Hall of Fame from the period he played in, as that would have to be the best defence of all time. (Viacheslav Fetisov doesn't count he was only there for 1 year at the beginning)
Because defenseman are under represented in the Hall to begin with, and no Devil d-man really put up a lot of points. And no matter how well you defend, if you don't put up points you aren't getting HOF voters attention.
As a lifelong devils fan, I think NJD benefited from Brodeur's style of play just as much as he benefited from NJD's structure. The fact they choked you out in the neutral zone plus shutdown defense in the defensive zone worked so well with the fact that he essentially played as a 3rd defenseman with his mobility and puck handling ability. There were so many times where a team could not get consistent offensive pressure since he would make legitimate breakout passes all the way to the neutral zone on a day-by-day basis. I think this contributed heavily to keeping the puck out of his net, but doesn't show up on a pure numbers chart The difference between him and Turco is that Brodeur was a much better goal-tender and had a team with a better defensive structure
@@jessiegandhi4340 to put that playoffs into perspective: devils lost 1 home game all postseason. And only gave up 3 goals at home the entire cup final. Again JS Giguere was insane (and ultimately got his cup) but Marty was elite
The issue with Brodeur is the same issue with Hasek. You can't judge either by stats. With Hasek it was intimidation. With Brodeur, it's how you quantify his abilities as a 3rd defender. Keep in mind, amongst all the goalies you listed, only one has a rule designed specifically to hinder his abilities. And he's the only player in NHL history that you can say there's a permanent mark on the ice because of their talents.
Of Brodeur's 3 goals that he's credited with, he only shot one into the opposing goal. The other two were put into the net by the opposing team. Only Ron Hextall actually scored more than one goal by shooting it at the opposition's net.
The Devils' 2012 run ended against the Kings of course. After it was over,, Brodeur and Jonathan Quick took a minute and exchanged words in the handshake line. Oh, to know what that conversation was about. By then it was a foregone conclusion that Brodeur would be in the HOF. And Quick was just a few years into his career.
As a Sabres fan who saw all of all three of your top goalies careers, I agree. Roy, Hasek, Brodeur in that order. I was always amazed at how many games a year, Brodeur played. I did hate with a passion, the NJ Devils - neutral zone trap era. The two-line pass era, being part of that I believe. What a horrendous rule, that lasted too long. And to be honest, I'm not even a fan of offsides existing. I'm alone in that regard, but I think only icing needs to exist. There's nothing worse than seeing teams line up guys on the blue line to thwart entry or offense. [I'd settle for the blue line becoming the red line on power-plays.] It's funny how Roy defined the prototype and Hasek destroyed it. Brodeur just seemed to play every night and have a shutout win while doing it. Pretty sure he went 82-0 one of those years.
Hasek, Roy, Sawchuk, Brodeur in that order for me. I never saw Sawchuk play. But his stats for that era are insane along with 115 career shut outs. Kinda wish Hasek had come over earlier in his career........would be interesting to see what his stats would've been.
Part of new jerseys style was because of brodeur. Other teams tried implementing the same system but no goalie could play the puck like brodeur to prevent the dump and chase
True wisdom THG every goalie plays in different eras so cant really make the claim for anyone been the G.O.A.T. however Marty is my favourite goalie/player great video man 😎👍🏾
Billy Smith is my #1. I was too young to remember him with the Kings so he was always an Islander to me. I played Defence for the first few years as a wee lad, wanted to be like Montreal's Larry Robinson but when I switched to playing goal in 1980 it was Billy Smith I wanted to be like. Roy, Hasek and Brodeur are also in my Top 5 along with Grant Fuhr.
Brodeur had the best cumulative stats of ANY goaltender ever, that is absolutely undeniable. You have to be good to put up those stats, and you have to do it for a long time to have that big of a gap between him and everyone else. Peak Brodeur was absolutely one of the best goaltenders ever, and easily top 3 of his era for a long time, even as other goalies occupied those other 2 spots. Ultimately though, when you talk about peak talent at the position itself... Hasek or Roy probably take the cake.
@@mjk06 Yeah its hard to talk about the "eye test" when you literally never saw him play, but obviously on the stats speak for themselves. My dad often talked about Sawchuk being the best when he saw him as a kid, and that the only goalies that came close were Esposito and Ken Dryden. His words, not mine.
I don’t care about the system the Devils played I don’t care about how many shots he faced (Sometimes a lot, sometimes not so many) What I care about is the fact that he played with joy and professionalism He didn’t pout He didn’t point the finger other than at himself He shrugged off bad goals and bad losses He wasn’t a mental case He played because he loved hockey and he played with a smile He owns all the records he owns because he was great A lot of goalies will tell you that facing 15 shots a game is harder than facing 30 shots because you have to keep your head in the game all the time He is one of the very best of all time and that is all that really matters Good luck beating his total wins, 40+ wins in a season and shut out records
There are goalies that make it into the Mount Rushmore of Goaltending Debate about who's the best, we get it ....your choice is important to you....there is a variety of 1st place As for Brodeur he's on the Mount Rushmore of goalies One of his greatest gifts, that is overlooked, was his mental toughness.... able to play at a high level for so long Personal note, two of the top goalies MARTY & PATRICK , both had the advantage ( due to circumstances and their ability) to win early in their careers, the Stanley Cup Roy yr 1, Brodeur yr 3 Once u win it, then the questioning stops, about ability to win it all Some of the greatest goalies had to endure the question late into their career or are snubbed because they didn't win the SC I think of Belfour who was questioned , till he finally was traded and won in Dallas.....but that pressure was there
Lou Lamoriello should have let him keep on playing with New Jersey until he got his 700th win. Brodeur should have accepted not being the number one goalie on the team anymore, and taken all the games he would be given until he got his 700th win, no matter how long it took. Too bad he can't be included on the list of players who played for only one team. St. Louis should have let him keep on playing until he got his 700th win.
Hasek was a great goaltender and so was Roy but both of them were kind of divas during their playing careers. Roy had some really bad games too and had a tendency to have emotional melt downs. The reason I always preferred Brodeur over the latter was Marty was consistent, dependable and steady and didn't bring any drama. All three of those names also played in the dead puck/neutral zone trap era and Buffalo played basically the same system as New Jersey when they got to the finals in 1999 as did a lot of teams in the league by then. I think what truly sets Brodeur apart more than anything is he had guys like Scott Stevens on defense and NJ always made sure they were solid on the blue line during his career. I don't think that should be something to hold against Marty. I do miss watching all those guys play though, they were all entertaining to watch
MB30 the GREATEST GOALIE OF ALL TIME. Has all the records and accolades to show for it. The Devils wouldn't have more cups if they had ANY other goalie, that's just the reality.
Brodeur was an all time great, no one can deny that. Although the trap hockey the Devils played also helped Brodeur's game a lot and that's the main reason I just can't put him above Roy even though Brodeur's all time numbers in some categories are noticeably better than Roy's. Patrick Roy is the all time best goalie for me and probably will be for a long long time. Brodeur is in top 3 which should be far away from hate.
I'm a huge devils fan and I agree with everything except... Hasek and Roy switch. Hasek had so much less to work with for the majority of his career. Put him on the devils and he'd be a god in net.
No doubt he was a HOF goalie. We can all agree on that one. He also benefitted from the Jersey trap defense that would make any goalie into a HOF goalie.
In fairness he had 2 HOF defenseman and 1 highly underrated D-man in brian rafalski too. But doesnt take away from his abilities to make key saves and basically say “youre not scoring tonight”
@@a_coleman11 I’ll give ya that. Why do you think Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman are doing so well right now? it’s because the Bruins defensive core is the best in the NHL.
As a long-time fan the Devils implemented the neutral zone trap during the mid 90s up to 2000 and won 2 cups with it. NJD did not play Trap hockey when they won the Stanley Cup in 2003 & Broduer won his Vezinas without the trapezoid. The Devils were not the only team to implement the Trap. Scotty Bowman and the Detroit Red Wings won 2 cups playing Trap hockey. Scotty called it the Leftwing Lock. The NJ Devils had good defensive teams, but only 2 Devils defensemen made it to the HOF (Stevens & Niedermayer). The Avalanche also had really good defensive teams and had Rob Blake & Ray Bourque, who are both in the HOF. I am perfectly ok with Shannon's all time goalie order, and I don't think he hates Broduer.
Great top 3 goalie list Shannon. You certainly know your stuff. I'm a former goalie and goaltenders own a special place in my heart. All three you mentioned in your top 3 are great. Dominic Hasek really is THE BEST goalie ever. My top 3 that I have ever seen play #1'Dominick Hasek, #2 Vladislav Tretiak, I know not an NHLer unfortunately #3. Grant Fuhr in his Edmonton days.
Marty had a long career because he was a hybrid Goalie, he stood up and went in butterfly when needed. He commented that he never exercised in off season until he got older. You could say earlier in his career that he may of been sheltered with a fantastic defense but as he played later in his career he was not. Stevens, neidermeyer, danyko where all gone by 2005.
He did not go down as much as other goalies maybe it helped with longevity. Also, when Brodeur scored against the Flyers the puck touched #28 of the Devils but Brodeur was credited with the goal. Can someone explain why he got the goal and not his teammate.
I really wanted the Devils to bring back Marty for 1 more year in 14-15. He didn't feel he was done and rumor is Lou refused to offer him a contract. It should have ended differently IMO and I wonder if that situation didn't play some role in ownerships decision to move on from Lou later that year.
Not that this has anything to do with anything but my old dermatologist happened to be a Dr. Sawchuk of relation to Terry Sawchuk. I don’t remember exactly the relation though.
Hasek for a game
Roy for a series
Brodeur for a career.
Good answer
agreed, hasek was so awesome to watch.
when hasek played for actual good teams when he was 40 he was still the best goalie in the league. Imagine him with the devils his whole career. Hasek for all
People forget how little the Devil’s scored at times …. Brodeur stood on his head and would lose games because the Devil’s were outscored 1-0 or 2-1
Luongo if your team is bad
You can put Roy, Brodeur and Hasek in any order you like. But of the last 30 or so years, those are your Mt. Rushmore.
I think Belfour is also just outside there. He was great. Marty is my favorite of the bunch but Belfour was amazing during those prime Dallas years.
brodeur: mr consistent
roy: clutch when it mattered in the p-off's.
hasek: acrobatic and did a lot on weaker teams b4 coming to detroit
all 3 were great goalies. whomever you like, there's no wrong answer.
Fantastic logic. Brodeur is my #1… totally absolutely 0 bias there. None at all. Hate the devils, don’t have an enormous merch collection or watch all of the games or anything like that. Don’t know why I said all that because it’s all true 🤞🏻
@jakemichalowicz1403 thanks for your kind words. my favorite of the 3 is actually hasek lol.
nonetheless am trying to appreciate all 3 goalies. all 3 were great in their own ways.
Def. True
That 2000-2001 final was an all time classic. What a joy it was to see two of the best goalies of all time faceoff, and both were surrounded by juggernaut lineups! That was some of the best hockey I'll ever see
This is bizarre... sitting here in my Marty Brodeur jersey, and this comes up in my feed!! Coincidence? I don't think so.
You're just sitting there in a Brodeur jersey when this video comes up? Bizarre
@@samweller96 like Shannon, I collect hockey jerseys, although mine are exclusively goalies. Just happened to be wearing this one today!
Decided to wear my brodeur shirt today. Coincidence I think not 😅
@@samweller96
It must be a conspiracy.
I got to see both Hasek and Brodeur (they each played 30 minutes) in Linkoping, Sweden during the 2004-2005 lockout. They were the goalies for the NHL World Stars team that played against a bunch of european teams on a two-week tour.
Brodeur winked at me and my buddy as he was stretching at the player bench. We had front row seats behind their coach Marty McSorley. And Tie Domi was on the team as well. It was an unforgettable evening and I am one of the few who loved that there was a lockout or I never would have seen these guys play.
My fathers favorite goalie. Maybe he had the best system, but can’t argue he was an icon of goaltenders and did his part very well
System doesn’t work without him so yeaaa
Brodeur played during 3 Lockout seasons: 1994-1995; 2004-2005; 2012-2013. He would have retired with 700 wins instead of 691 wins if it wasn't for those lockouts.
How many of those wins came because of the shootout though? Somewhere around half of them would have been ties.
*edit: Marty B has 60 shootout wins. More than any goalie ever. So subtract 60.
@@kirkjordan8718 You're assuming that the first 60 minutes of those games would have been played the exact same way if the shootout didn't exist. I'm not sure that's a safe assumption.
@Peter Drake I mean I guess you're right but that's getting super technical. But watch me spin this into that the game should be played out always as in playoff overtimes. The games would have been played the same under your logic. And if we were to play the game out in overtime until their was a winner, then history shows that most playoff overtime victories go
Roy 40
Belfour 22
Fuhr 18
Brodeur 16
Marty isn't as good as Roy. That's why Roy beat him in the finals. And Roy gave them game 5 too.
He has 691 wins!
Definitely was a great era for goalies! Crazy to think to witness Roy, Brodeur, & Hasek all in the same time frame
Almost sad that they robbed each other of vezinas. If they were more separated they could each dominate a decade of vezinas
That last year with the Blues was because Jersey went crazy firing DeBoer and making 3 head coaches behind the bench. Marty needed out, and the Blues helped get him out of there. Brodeur had a front office Job with the Blues after that, which did help-ish with recruiting for the 2019 Cup team.
We totally have a Brodeur Blues Jersey to go with the Gretzky Blues one. The STL gig is also how he got into the Enterprise commercials.
Do you have a Stevens Blues jersey?
so important notes: 1. devils traded for Cory Schneider in the 2013 offseason after missing the playoffs. DeBoer did NOT help with the development of the kids on the team and that 2012 team was the last hurrah of those great 90s-2000s Devils teams. Marty wanted to play but it was obvious it wasn't going to work long term seeing that Cory was a more than capable starter also sitting behind Luongo in Vancouver.
2. lose mid 2010s devils teams were BAD. wasted a lot of Cory's good years on those teams and he was out of gas when they made the playoffs in 2018.
3. thankfully NJ brought him back into a management role but there was a bit of bad blood between the two
Great deep dive! big devils fan and Marty is my guy, got to basically see every game and many of them in person include cup clinchers and lots of shutouts, had an incredible glove and he revolutionized the position so much the nhl had to change the rules because of his stick handling prowess…sucks he had three lockouts during his career
If it weren’t for work stoppages he’d have cleared 700 wins easily
😎👍💓🇨🇦🇺🇸🏒🥅🚨GOALIES RULE!!!
*Shannon PLEASE keep the OT, Tie, shootout stats. That's just yet another reason why we watch!
When I was running shows in the 90's in Mtl my photographer was Marty's Dad, Denis :) We had a lot of fun, and Marty did his first autograph gigs with me to the point that his agent, Gilles Lupien, called me up screaming that I was stealing his client (which I wasn't. ) Great guy, great family, and best goalie in NHL history.
The 06-07 season statistics are just silly, if you think about it. Post-lockout NHL was an offensive league, scoring was way up from the Dead Puck Era (which favoured NJ's play-style) and the man tallied 12 shutouts(!) Almost plays a full 82-game season. Almost 50 wins in one season.
I couldn't even get my created goalie to achieve those numbers on rookie, man.
Brodeur was considered having a 3rd defenseman on the ice. His stick handling skills let him stretch the ice out and they changed the rules of hockey with the trapezoid.
One other thing thats interesting about Brodeur, was that he was one of the last goalies to use the old-school "standing" style of goaltending, that was common up until the late 80's.
Ever since than, goalies (even today) overutilize the butterfly technique and geometry to make the necessary saves. He only used to butterfly when he needed to, if he could avoid kneeling on the ice, he would.
1993-94 was the season where the neutral zone trap became controversial. Jacques Lemaire implemented it when he became coach of the Devils, which coincided with their rise to prominence as one of the NHL's best franchises. I remember all of the complaining about how the trap was ruining hockey. As someone who became a hockey fan in the early 70's, I saw it as a return to the sound defensive hockey I grew up with, and preferred it to the offense only hockey of the mid to late 80's.
The Rangers-Devils semi final in 1994 was the best playoff series I ever saw (the 1974 semi final between the Rangers and Flyers was a close second).
Blues legend 😤
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS. My favorite player as a kid and the reason i am a devils fan now. (Also wanted to be a goalie as a kid but dont get asthma kids)
Marty losing a full year in his prime with the 04-05 stoppage hurts as a NJD fan. That's another great shot at the cup with Niedermayer and Rafalski still on the team, and easily over 700 wins for his career.
Stats aside (and being my favorite Devil of all-time) I agree with others commenting:
Roy best Playoff Performer
Hasek best Peak
Brodeur best Career
Is there a video on Ken Dryden yet? He's the most underrated candidate for best goalie in NHL history, never saw him play but by god those stats for a career consisting of over 350 games as a goalie is heavenly.
Most overrated.
Devils legend…. My favorite player of all time.. Reason why I am a devils fan
Yes, a Devils legend.
Patrick Roy, a SPORTS LEGEND.
Marty Brodeur is one of the best goalies I have ever seen play the game. I may not be a devils fan, but I was a fan of his for awhile. He was consistently great year in and year out. It was never in doubt that he would make the hockey hall of fame.
I met Marty recently as his son plays for Manchester Storm who are my local team, and he was a very nice guy. Not sure why but I imagined he’d be a little more aloof, but in reality he couldn’t do enough for the fans.
That said, Roy will always be number one for me 😂
I’ve been a Devils fan since my first game against the Habs in 1993, but I’ve always considered Marty the 3rd best goalie I’ve seen, Hasek and Roy being 1 and 2. There was something special about Hasek’s freakishness and Roy was the ultimate competitor. Nothing against Marty, though. He’s still the greatest player my team has ever had. Then again, if Hughes continues on his path that may be a debate in fifteen years.
30" Martin Brodeur.
# 21 NHL seasons with 17 seasons of play-offs.
# 3 Stanley Cup Championships in 5 Finals.
# 2 Olympic gold medals (2002 & 2010).
# World Cup gold medalist (2004) + silver medalist (1996).
# 2 IIHF World Championship silver medals (1996 & 2005).
# 4-time Vezina Trophys: 2003, 2004, 2007 & 2008 + 9 nominations: 1997, 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 & 2010.
# 5-time William M. Jennings Trophy: 1997, 1998, 2003, 2004 & 2010.
# Calder Memorial Trophy: 1994.
# 3-time NHL First All-Star Team: 2003, 2004 & 2007.
# 4-time NHL Second All-Star Team: 1997, 1998, 2006 & 2008.
# 9-time NHL All-Star Game Player: 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004 & 2007.
# 3-time Hart Memorial Trophy nominations: 2003, 2004 & 2007.
# The Salute, a bronze statue of Martin Brodeur by Jon Krawczyk, was installed outside Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey in 2016.
# Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame 2018.
# 30" retired by New Jersey Devils.
How many Conn Smythes???
Claude Lemieux beat Brodeur in 1995.
CLAUDE EFFED UP LEMIUEX!!!
That would equal to Roy losing the playoff MVP to JJ Daigneault.
What?@@raantaas96
@@raantaas96 - You know it is kind of rare for golies to get that prestigue award.
@@WarioSaysSo By position, goalies have won the Conn Smythe 17 times.
Second of any position since first introduced in 1965.
23 years is a crazy long career. What a legend
The stat that blows my mind… 205 playoff games. 2 1/2 seasons of playoff games.
I know Roy lost his final OT game against a MINDLESS robot of a Minnesota team in 2003.
But Patrick Roys OT record is like 47-19???
Sister-deurs playoff OT record is about opposite of that.
Get it??? BRO-deur, SISTER-deur.
Yes we get it. It’s a popular misconception of what actually happened. But do your research. He didn’t do anyone’s sister. He married his wife’s brother’s wife. Which would have been his sister in law. You can find the details elsewhere but the joke is beyond long in the tooth at this point.
His longevity also has to do with him being the last goalie to use a noticeable amount of a stand-up style.
The fact he could do it so effectively is freakish. But the point is, easier to play more often, for more years, and be fresher when you're able to stay on your feet to make a save.
Flames and Devils are my favorite teams and I absolutely love Brodeur, he's probably my favorite goalie of all time. But it still stings a little knowing the Flames and Devils swapped picks at the 1990 draft so the Flames could move up to pick Kidd over Brodeur
you know its going to be a good video when the tiny board comes out
I watched Devils playoffs hockey alot back then and i think Shannon underrates some of the saves Marty had to make. Yes, he didnt have to consistently face barrages that other goalies had too but he was there when he needed to be. And i remember quite a few ten bell saves that Marty had to make in those big games that were as impressive as any save i ever saw Roy make. I see this argument used alot to lower Marty down the list and while i understand it, i don't a hundred percent ageee. Im not going to hold the fact that Marty had a great defense and a great defensive system in front of him against him. He still had to go out and make those saves and keep his concentration up to not give up a costly goal and i have seen golies that struggle with keeping focus in those situations. Plus, are we going to ignore (at least as it pertains to Roy) that Patrick also had some really great defensive teams in front of him? We use it against Marty but Patrick also had some outstanding defenses in front of him too. Those Montreal teams in the 80s were loaded with great 2 way forwards lile Guy Carbaneau and Bob Gainey and solid D men led by Chris Chelios and an older Larry Robinson (and in the 90s Eric Dejardians developed). And in Colorado, he had Foote and eventually Bourque and Blake there. And thats not including some of the lesser solid but still good D men they had in mid to late 90s. That Colorado team in 2001 was a fantastic defensive hockey team. They had the big guns on offense like Sakic and Forsberg and Hejduk and such. But they were a very good defensive team. Ill give you Hasek as he almost had to carry Buffalo to wins most nights by just being dominant but i would say Roy also benefited from having strong defenses in front of him. The Devils may have been better but i dont think the gap was massive. And lets not also forget that the coaches who brought that system to New Jersey played for the Canadians and learned it there. So, while Patrick was amazing, he also was pretty fortuitous to play in Montreal which had a great hockey tradition and then get moved to Colorado when they were about ready to take off.
As a Blues Fan, I’m not surprised that they sign a legendary goaltender. Like, Glenn Hall, Jacques Plante, Grant Fuhr And Tom Barrasso. Although, Martin Brodeur finished his career with The Blues, He started his career in the office with St.Louis. Marty Brodeur the greatest of all time M
As a Devils fan, I have to say that Martin was basically the only STABLE option in the Jersey defense. Even with talents like Scott Stevens, Scott Niedermayer, Ken Daneyko and Brian Rafalski and others who were either too old, or liked to run forward a lot, or didn't shine with consistency. Brodeur was the only one standing and holding the position, sometimes even becoming the third defender, wielding his stick like a magician with a magic wand, scoring scores and removing danger from his goal. It was he who largely contributed to the success of the Devils in the 94/95 cup seasons with their American equivalent of the Soviet "Voskresensk sack", and in the 99/2000 season, when the New Jersey Devils were a team without weaknesses. The 2002/2003 season became his benefit at all - with a rather weak roster, he showed who the main defender was in Jersey, and swept the team on his shoulders to the Stanley Cup, gaining three matches to zero in the final against Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Neither Roy or Hasek could do that. Therefore, I will say right away:
Hasek to waivers
Nabokov for the match
Roy for the series
Brodeur for the career
I would love to see a Sawchuk video please:)
I don't think i've ever looked at his stats sheet before. I usually don't look up goalie stats they aren't as interesting to me as goals and assists. But these stats are insane! He played 70+ games every year and put up elite stats. He play 77 or more games 3 times? What? What a beast! How did he play this much so well for so long? Its baffling! He should have won at least 1 conn smythe trophy. And probably all 3 for every time they won the cup.
It helped he didn't face as many shots as most goalies, with the NJ system. So he wasn't as over worked as many. But yeah 65-70 games in those days was the norm for the best tenders
@@mjk06 i think he would have still put up decent stats on s bad team. He wouldn't have won as many games and had a higher GAA but his save% would have stayed about the same i bet. He was steady and composed the whole way. The most consistent goaltender and possibly most consistent player period.
@@lenkennedy9214 No I meant because most nights he didn't face as many shots as most goalies, he was able to play that many games a season as his work load wasn't as bad. I wasn't talking about his stats bud.
One thing that helped him was that he was the last of the non-butterfly goalies, which position is hard on knees and hips.
exciting goalie one of my all time favs plus played for team canada-his jersey is on my wall of goalies!🤩
I was watching the martin brodeur top 100 nhl player video today and I was wondering if you made a career video on him. And now it just appear on my feed. That's pretty crazy!
If you were Brodeur’s backup for the 06-07 and 07-08 seasons you would have started fewer than 10 games across BOTH seasons combined, and Marty would have more shutouts than you have starts. What!
I think New Jersey's old "Super Trap" style was totally dedicated to defensive hockey, and this undoubtedly lengthened Brodeur's career. With that said, this guy was a beast in net and justifiably earned his spot as one of the best goalies who ever played in the NHL.
@mysterious2ndguy True.
When people say that Brodeur didn't face a lot of shots because o the Devils defense, they are forgetting all the work that Marty himself did to limit shots against himself. They had to change the rules to prevent him from continuing to do it. Brodeur handled the puck better than any goal and would frequently make tape to tape breakout passes to his defensemen. Also his rebound control was better than just about anyone else.
I remember him when he played for the Utica Devils.
As a Devils fan, 1) Hasek, 2) Roy, 3) Brodeur
As Steve Dangle says "When you're a goalie, tend the goal", and nobody in NHL history has stopped the puck better than Hasek.
THG original Brodeur video is how I found this channel, but to add to the debate if New Jerseys defense is the reason behind Brodeur career succes why are there only 2 Devils defencman in the Hall of Fame from the period he played in, as that would have to be the best defence of all time. (Viacheslav Fetisov doesn't count he was only there for 1 year at the beginning)
Daneyko was also a stout defenseman
Because defenseman are under represented in the Hall to begin with, and no Devil d-man really put up a lot of points. And no matter how well you defend, if you don't put up points you aren't getting HOF voters attention.
Fetisov played for the Devils for 5+ seasons.
Slava was traded to Detroit in 1995, otherwise he could have had three cups instead of two...
@@THE_bchat When Brodeur was there
My favorite player of all time. Go Marty! Go Devils 😈
Marty is the G.O.A.T.
The red and black look good on ya ;)
Great video though honesty ty ty
As a lifelong devils fan, I think NJD benefited from Brodeur's style of play just as much as he benefited from NJD's structure. The fact they choked you out in the neutral zone plus shutdown defense in the defensive zone worked so well with the fact that he essentially played as a 3rd defenseman with his mobility and puck handling ability. There were so many times where a team could not get consistent offensive pressure since he would make legitimate breakout passes all the way to the neutral zone on a day-by-day basis. I think this contributed heavily to keeping the puck out of his net, but doesn't show up on a pure numbers chart
The difference between him and Turco is that Brodeur was a much better goal-tender and had a team with a better defensive structure
I wish he had won the Conn Smythe at least once in his career.
2003 was his conn smythe year. (No disrespect to JS Giguere b/c he was insane)
Marty was robbed in 2003. They made the decision to give it to JS before the series even started.
Marty was robbed in 2003.. he has 7 SOs in a postseason, 3 in the final itself.. JS Giguere was amazing but Marty was amazing too and he won
@@jessiegandhi4340 to put that playoffs into perspective: devils lost 1 home game all postseason. And only gave up 3 goals at home the entire cup final. Again JS Giguere was insane (and ultimately got his cup) but Marty was elite
@@a_coleman11 I agree.. my only devils cup run I saw completely… Marty was robbed point blank… Giguere should have only won it if the Ducks won
#1 in shutouts
The issue with Brodeur is the same issue with Hasek. You can't judge either by stats. With Hasek it was intimidation. With Brodeur, it's how you quantify his abilities as a 3rd defender. Keep in mind, amongst all the goalies you listed, only one has a rule designed specifically to hinder his abilities. And he's the only player in NHL history that you can say there's a permanent mark on the ice because of their talents.
Of Brodeur's 3 goals that he's credited with, he only shot one into the opposing goal. The other two were put into the net by the opposing team. Only Ron Hextall actually scored more than one goal by shooting it at the opposition's net.
The Devils' 2012 run ended against the Kings of course. After it was over,, Brodeur and Jonathan Quick took a minute and exchanged words in the handshake line. Oh, to know what that conversation was about. By then it was a foregone conclusion that Brodeur would be in the HOF. And Quick was just a few years into his career.
As a Sabres fan who saw all of all three of your top goalies careers, I agree. Roy, Hasek, Brodeur in that order. I was always amazed at how many games a year, Brodeur played.
I did hate with a passion, the NJ Devils - neutral zone trap era. The two-line pass era, being part of that I believe. What a horrendous rule, that lasted too long. And to be honest, I'm not even a fan of offsides existing. I'm alone in that regard, but I think only icing needs to exist. There's nothing worse than seeing teams line up guys on the blue line to thwart entry or offense. [I'd settle for the blue line becoming the red line on power-plays.]
It's funny how Roy defined the prototype and Hasek destroyed it. Brodeur just seemed to play every night and have a shutout win while doing it. Pretty sure he went 82-0 one of those years.
Hasek, Roy, Sawchuk, Brodeur in that order for me. I never saw Sawchuk play. But his stats for that era are insane along with 115 career shut outs. Kinda wish Hasek had come over earlier in his career........would be interesting to see what his stats would've been.
still say that Rangers v. Devils Conference finals in 94...best playoff series ever
I love Brodeur. I’m a Devils fan and he’ll always be my favorite. BUT, if it’s a playoff series… I’m taking Roy all day every day.
Part of new jerseys style was because of brodeur. Other teams tried implementing the same system but no goalie could play the puck like brodeur to prevent the dump and chase
True wisdom THG every goalie plays in different eras so cant really make the claim for anyone been the G.O.A.T. however Marty is my favourite goalie/player great video man 😎👍🏾
Billy Smith is my #1. I was too young to remember him with the Kings so he was always an Islander to me. I played Defence for the first few years as a wee lad, wanted to be like Montreal's Larry Robinson but when I switched to playing goal in 1980 it was Billy Smith I wanted to be like. Roy, Hasek and Brodeur are also in my Top 5 along with Grant Fuhr.
Brodeur had the best cumulative stats of ANY goaltender ever, that is absolutely undeniable. You have to be good to put up those stats, and you have to do it for a long time to have that big of a gap between him and everyone else. Peak Brodeur was absolutely one of the best goaltenders ever, and easily top 3 of his era for a long time, even as other goalies occupied those other 2 spots. Ultimately though, when you talk about peak talent at the position itself... Hasek or Roy probably take the cake.
You have to throw Sawchuk in there regardless if you never saw him play. 115 career shut outs and his stats for that era are insane.
@@mjk06 Yeah its hard to talk about the "eye test" when you literally never saw him play, but obviously on the stats speak for themselves. My dad often talked about Sawchuk being the best when he saw him as a kid, and that the only goalies that came close were Esposito and Ken Dryden. His words, not mine.
That was the problem with Jim Carey "Net Detective." The playoffs exposed him as a product of excellent defense
Maybe the most durable of the modern goaltenders-it was a rare sight to not see him starting for the devils
Brodeur’s 48 wins is also a single season record
He shares that record with Braden Holtby.
Only leaffers consider the regular season as a measure of success.
I enjoyed watching him play
Cant understate his durability and endurance, but i agree that roy and hasek were greater.
I don’t care about the system the Devils played I don’t care about how many shots he faced (Sometimes a lot, sometimes not so many) What I care about is the fact that he played with joy and professionalism He didn’t pout He didn’t point the finger other than at himself He shrugged off bad goals and bad losses He wasn’t a mental
case He played because
he loved hockey and he played with a smile He owns all the records he owns because he was great A lot of goalies will tell you that facing 15 shots a game is harder than facing 30 shots because you have to keep your head in the game all the time He is one of the very best of all time and that is all that really matters Good luck beating his total wins, 40+ wins in a season and shut out records
Wasn't the reason he became a goalie because he could be on the ice the entire game?
It absolutely was He loved the game and played it with the enthusiasm of a child his entire career
Only leaffers adore great regular seasons.
I was a huge Terreri fan. It took quite a while for me to warm up to Marty. (I have two Terreri jerseys, and no Marty jerseys haha)
@Devils Joint that's awesome! I've got to meet him a handful of times. He's a great dude.
GOAT 🐐
Marty playing in St.Louis feels like a fever dream
As a devils fan I agree with this, hard to argue with facts.
Such a legend.
Do a video of his backups' stats. It shows how defensive the Devil system was. It was a rotating door but you'd swear they were vezina calibur
@Devils Joint Kevin Weeks was terrible as a goalie in the same system.
In 2007 Luongo was 2nd in wins, tied in shutouts, had the lower save percentage and the higher goal against average. Stats aren't everything but....
There are goalies that make it into the Mount Rushmore of Goaltending
Debate about who's the best, we get it ....your choice is important to you....there is a variety of 1st place
As for Brodeur he's on the Mount Rushmore of goalies
One of his greatest gifts, that is overlooked, was his mental toughness.... able to play at a high level for so long
Personal note, two of the top goalies
MARTY & PATRICK , both had the advantage ( due to circumstances and their ability) to win early in their careers, the Stanley Cup Roy yr 1, Brodeur yr 3
Once u win it, then the questioning stops, about ability to win it all
Some of the greatest goalies had to endure the question late into their career or are snubbed because they didn't win the SC
I think of Belfour who was questioned , till he finally was traded and won in Dallas.....but that pressure was there
Niiice one of the best
Lou Lamoriello should have let him keep on playing with New Jersey until he got his 700th win. Brodeur should have accepted not being the number one goalie on the team anymore, and taken all the games he would be given until he got his 700th win, no matter how long it took. Too bad he can't be included on the list of players who played for only one team. St. Louis should have let him keep on playing until he got his 700th win.
Hasek was a great goaltender and so was Roy but both of them were kind of divas during their playing careers. Roy had some really bad games too and had a tendency to have emotional melt downs. The reason I always preferred Brodeur over the latter was Marty was consistent, dependable and steady and didn't bring any drama. All three of those names also played in the dead puck/neutral zone trap era and Buffalo played basically the same system as New Jersey when they got to the finals in 1999 as did a lot of teams in the league by then. I think what truly sets Brodeur apart more than anything is he had guys like Scott Stevens on defense and NJ always made sure they were solid on the blue line during his career. I don't think that should be something to hold against Marty. I do miss watching all those guys play though, they were all entertaining to watch
MB30 the GREATEST GOALIE OF ALL TIME. Has all the records and accolades to show for it. The Devils wouldn't have more cups if they had ANY other goalie, that's just the reality.
Brodeur was amazing.
Brodeur was an all time great, no one can deny that. Although the trap hockey the Devils played also helped Brodeur's game a lot and that's the main reason I just can't put him above Roy even though Brodeur's all time numbers in some categories are noticeably better than Roy's.
Patrick Roy is the all time best goalie for me and probably will be for a long long time. Brodeur is in top 3 which should be far away from hate.
He also helped design the Jersey jersey.
Did he really?
@@RIUUI007 yes, no joke
Friendly reminder Giguere out played him in that 03 Finals and was mainly benefitted by that trapezoid defense he had around him.
Friendly reminder that Marty had 3 shutouts in that series alone, including the most important game and a .925 sv% to Giguere's .910
For my the best an i saw brodeur play, hasek, and roy.
I'm a huge devils fan and I agree with everything except... Hasek and Roy switch. Hasek had so much less to work with for the majority of his career. Put him on the devils and he'd be a god in net.
No doubt he was a HOF goalie. We can all agree on that one. He also benefitted from the Jersey trap defense that would make any goalie into a HOF goalie.
The Devils didn't play the Trap for his entire career. They weren't playing Trap Hockey when they won a Stanley Cup in 2003 and beyond.
You’re a casual I see lol
Put Dominic Hasek, or Patrick Roy on the New Jersey teams and their numbers would make him look stupid
In fairness he had 2 HOF defenseman and 1 highly underrated D-man in brian rafalski too. But doesnt take away from his abilities to make key saves and basically say “youre not scoring tonight”
@@a_coleman11 I’ll give ya that. Why do you think Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman are doing so well right now? it’s because the Bruins defensive core is the best in the NHL.
St. Louis Blues legend Marty Brodeur!
he never played for st louis as far as im concerned lol
As a long-time fan the Devils implemented the neutral zone trap during the mid 90s up to 2000 and won 2 cups with it. NJD did not play Trap hockey when they won the Stanley Cup in 2003 & Broduer won his Vezinas without the trapezoid. The Devils were not the only team to implement the Trap. Scotty Bowman and the Detroit Red Wings won 2 cups playing Trap hockey. Scotty called it the Leftwing Lock. The NJ Devils had good defensive teams, but only 2 Devils defensemen made it to the HOF (Stevens & Niedermayer). The Avalanche also had really good defensive teams and had Rob Blake & Ray Bourque, who are both in the HOF. I am perfectly ok with Shannon's all time goalie order, and I don't think he hates Broduer.
Great top 3 goalie list Shannon. You certainly know your stuff.
I'm a former goalie and goaltenders own a special place in my heart.
All three you mentioned in your top 3 are great. Dominic Hasek really is THE BEST goalie ever.
My top 3 that I have ever seen play #1'Dominick Hasek, #2 Vladislav Tretiak, I know not an NHLer unfortunately #3. Grant Fuhr in his Edmonton days.
Fuhr stats were awful for a dominating team. Most over rated tender of all time.
I apologize, but not having Patrick Roy in ANYBODYS all time top 3 list is, I apologize again, RE TAR DID!!!
So how about a career video of PJ Axelsson?
You should wear Blues jersey, just for fun.
Marty had a long career because he was a hybrid Goalie, he stood up and went in butterfly when needed. He commented that he never exercised in off season until he got older. You could say earlier in his career that he may of been sheltered with a fantastic defense but as he played later in his career he was not. Stevens, neidermeyer, danyko where all gone by 2005.
Two of them ended their more than twenty-year careers, and Niedermayer Sr. grew wings and flew to his brother
As a Ducks I’ll always hate him. But it’s the hate you only get when you watch other team win the cup.
I hate your rival Kings for that reason
@@jessiegandhi4340 Ducks and Devils united in our hatred of the Kings.
Where's haseks and roys rule change?
But Broduer had the coolest goalie equipment of all time.
He did not go down as much as other goalies maybe it helped with longevity. Also, when Brodeur scored against the Flyers the puck touched #28 of the Devils but Brodeur was credited with the goal. Can someone explain why he got the goal and not his teammate.
I really wanted the Devils to bring back Marty for 1 more year in 14-15. He didn't feel he was done and rumor is Lou refused to offer him a contract. It should have ended differently IMO and I wonder if that situation didn't play some role in ownerships decision to move on from Lou later that year.
In my honest opinion, Brodeur is one of the goaltenders of all time.
A bold statement! 😂
Can you PLEASE, PLEASE do a video a video on “Lord” Byron Dafoe!!!!!!!
Not that this has anything to do with anything but my old dermatologist happened to be a Dr. Sawchuk of relation to Terry Sawchuk. I don’t remember exactly the relation though.