The Career of Todd Bertuzzi
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Hey all, and here is a rather controversial player who was a superstar in the making before it all fell apart.
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Ah, yes. An uneventful, wholesome career😂
Nothing to report here, move along😂
Move along, move along.
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@@joehung1552Like I know you do.
I didn't know who he was before watching this. But I read your comment before I pressed play. Nothing could've prepared me for that
As an Avs fan who remembers that awful night, I will also say Crawford was reprehensible. Marc Crawford was just as responsible for how emotions built on that night as Brad May and Todd Bertuzzi. How Crawford has escaped the condemnation that followed Bertuzzi is beyond me. And I appreciated Crawford when he took the Avs to their first cup. But not turning the temperature down when things were already simmering was Crawford's responsibility. I will never forgive that from a coach.
Why did Granato keep putting Moore out there?
@@RayFinkle05 Because the team had a huge lead like 8-2 or so? People keep saying your question but was Granato not to play his 4th line towards the end of a blowout game? What was he supposed to do? Put his first line out to finish the game?
Thank you for all of the research and experience you put into every video.
I was a young kid in early 2000's, and Bertuzzi was the reason I wanted anything to do with hockey. Absolute heartbreak after that. He was my hero, and ho boy had a fall from grace
I remember him as a Wings fan, alongside Schneider, jumping ship to the Ducks after their cup run and missed out on the Wings cup run in 07-08.
You made a mistake on the 1999-2000 season, Todd Bertuzzi had 25 goals and 25 assists for 50 points, everything else checks out, though.
The Steve Moore incident was March 8th 2004.
Yea one of the most unfortunate incidents in hockey 🏒
Can you do a career of Johan Franzen? Arguably the best power forward for the Red Wings in the 2000s
If he made a Franzen video right after Bertuzzi, us Avs would be getting out the pitchforks 😂🤦🏻♂️
Amazing player. Sucks ehat happened to him
I watched the Steve Moore incident in a pub in North Vancouver. The place went silent. Awful moment in hockey history. Everyone knew something was going to happen. NHL should have stepped up to suspend Steve Moore for the head shot & concussion on Naslund. There were calls for the NHL to protect the super stars or vulnerable players -but it fell on deaf ears. At the time, Naslund was leading the NHL in points. Steve Moore's concussion to Naslund put the Canucks' season/playoffs in jeopardy. Then Bertuzzi put Moore's life and career in jeopardy. The NHL should never have let this happen. Cancuks should never have escalated the situation. Hopefully, we never see this kind of tragedy again. Bertuzzi was never the same player - and even Naslund - after this incident. And Steve Moore never played a professional hockey game again. Lowest NHL moment I've ever watched live on TV.
And it was even lower for the NHL. Bertuzzi ended up having a 20 game suspension after all was said and done. Compare that to what happened and what the sanctions were in the NBA around the same time with The Malice at the Palace.
Bertuzzi should have been banned for life.
@@Zamppa86No he shouldn't have. There have been a million dangerous dirty plays in the NHL and luckily they didn't end as badly as they did for Steve Moore. Bertuzzi didn't mean to end the guys career. Luck wasn't on his side. There must be a thousand players that you wish were suspended permanently.
@@mr.brenman2132the man has a soccer logo as his profile picture, we shouldn’t listen to his opinion on hockey and it’s culture. He doesn’t know
@@mr.brenman2132 I don't recall any other incident where a player got sucker punched from behind and shoved face first into the ice.... js
@@laffytaffyking4490when you can’t answer a valid point, look desperately for any reason to discount it for invalid reasons like you do. You’ve taken a few to the head yourself.
My thoughts...
Steve Moore should have been penalized and suspended for the hit on Naslund.
Did Brad May get suspended for saying "There's definitely a bounty on his head..."? If not, he should have been.
Some of the things other players said before that game should have put the NHL on high alert and they should have been more responsible as a league handing out fines and suspensions.
Bertuzzi's actions were criminal and he should have been suspended for more games (if not outright banned from the NHL).
At that point in the game, Moore should not have been on the ice. Maybe they thought that after the Cooke fight it was over, but since Moore won that fight they should have known that Vancouver had not gotten their pound of flesh yet and would still be out for it.
Finally, the on ice referees should have been suspended. They had plenty of time during the play, going on, that led to the Bertuzzi actions to blow the whistle and hand out misconducts. They failed in their duties.
The entire series of incidents sickens me.
Even more sad is that Brad May is still disrespecting Steve Moore. A couple years ago he publicly compared his injury to insurance fraud, claiming he wasn’t actually hurt.
@@DoBap_There is a possibility he recovered and just wanted a pay day because he wasn't a good NHL player. I do think it's weird how Moore can concuss Naslund and break his elbow but because he ended ok you won't refer to that as criminal. I guess you're only a criminal if the guy you knock out doesn't recover.
@@mr.brenman2132 You are right, that's text book hypocrisy.
@@mr.brenman2132that’s not a possibility.
@@MDK2_Radio What's not a possibility?
What upsets me about the Bertuzzi incident, is that the NHL got full-credit for giving him a lifetime ban, and then that got turned into 20 games. WTF.
I bought my wife a Bertuzzi jersey for Christmas, two months before the incident. She bought me a Boogard jersey not long before he left MN. We no longer by jerseys for current or living players.
West Coast Express podcast also covers the Moore incident really good, as-well as Brian Burkes book. For anyone who interested.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check that out
That pod was excellent - wish there was more content like this
He was an elite power forward for about 5-6yrs. Boy, was the West Coast Express fun to watch.
Btw, we could not win a Stanley Cup playing the style we played during that era. We were a high octane run-and-gun team that played little to no defense. I don't think Cloutier should be fully blamed for our lack of playoff success...
The team didn't have enough/talent to win It all. You certainly weren't winning a cup with Cloutier
WCE were fantastic to watch and lit a fire in this city, but even then you didn't have to be a detective to figure out a one line team won't get you the Cup. However if this hadn't happened, and we let the Sedins while the WCE was still in action, it would have been a different story maybe.
If only Bertuzzi had studied under the Scott Stevens' school of ending careers, he might also be a hall of famer now
"what a great player Scott Stevens is!"
I see Tage Thompson and think of Bert, not as similair but just in the powerful sense with swift underrated hands...during his prime anyway
Quoting Dan Russel from Sports Talk radio CKNW 98, he said that Naslund called Moore's hit on him as a clean hit!
Correction: February 16th, 2004 was when Steve Moore made the hit on Markus Naslund that initiated everything, March 8th, 2004 was when the real-deal incident happened.
Avs fan here. Absolutely love your stuff THG!
But all I can contribute is... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I remember going to a Canucks game with my youth hockey team and during the warmup he looked at me dead in the eyes, pointed to me, tossed a puck over the glass and my jerkoff teammates pushed me out of the way to get it. He was pissed so he told everyone to back the hell off, flipped another puck over, I caught it and he gave me a big smile and a wink, then bagged 2 goals including the game winner. Loved Bert for life after that and I still have the puck to this day.
Great player!This incident with Moore was bad,but things before that led to it.
Add in the McSorly stick to the head of Brashear, but Brashear was able to return the NHL
Well in that case McSorley was the one who wouldn't play in the NHL again
As someone who coached hockey in Sudbury and coached a team who played against one of Todd's teams when he was on the verge of "stardom" I have a different view of him. He and his family were a group of obnoxious and overbearing a-holes who cared about no one other than Todd. He was a dirty player back then and when one of my players cleanly hit him, his father raced to the dressing room area to "let me know" who Todd was and how dare I send one of my goons to try and hurt him. I am not surprised the Steve Moore incident happened. That is who Todd is. I hated the day he was drafted by the Islanders and I was ready to throw a party when they traded him.
Wow, thanks for sharing this insight. The only thing that really bothered me about the Moore incident is that Bert only really seemed to care how the lawsuits and suspensions were affecting him, nothing for Moore's family. Also, Moore was a shitty guy too. Not that he deserved that, though, but both were assholes.
Ever wonder why Yzerman cut him loose? A young solid forward, the type every team needs?
The dingleberry doesn't fall far from the cows ass.
@@fubartotale3389 - What does Yzerman have to do with this? He was in charge of the Lightning when Bert was with Detroit, except for his first year with the Wings. - Edit: I got you, you mean Tyler. Yeah, that kid has a shit attitude too. Not a team player. Didn't fit with Yzerman's expectations of a professional.
@@captbloodbeardsure his lawyer's were telling him what not to say when asked about Moore. (Edited for spelling error)
IMHO - the worst human being to ever don an Islander uniform. I don’t boo hometown players but made an exception for this piece of human garbage. Was ecstatic when Milbury traded him. What you experienced doesn’t surprise me in the least.
march 8 2004 was the date...feb was the naslund cheapshot
I remember that game vividly. I was 7 years old, my dad knew something bad was about to happen when the Canucks went down big time in the first. He sent me to bed, but from my doorway i could down the hall to the TV. Being from Vancouver of course the Canucks were my team and Bertuzzi my favourite player. The only poster I had in my room was his poster, he was a hero for me as a child. It took me some time to come to terms with how this man I idolized could do something so brutal-especially having watched it live. 20 years later I still feel a little betrayed. After that game I disavowed my allegiance to the Canucks and Bertuzzi and started idolizing the Flames and Iginla, that's the gravity that it had on me.
Make one on Brian Boyle
Controversial man. Good video. Thanks Shannon. As a boy I was a massive toss Bertuzzi fan, that night shattered my adolescent image of him. As a lifelong player and wings fan, my feelings toward him remain nearly unsorted, but certainly harmed and undermined. I am not the one who needs to have an opinion tho, honestly, and he was a helluva player sometimes
Bertuzzi single handedly changed the interference rules in front of the net, by initializing the hit on defencemen to make space for himself. Against Minnesota in the playoffs the Canucks got burned because they kept moving out of position to try to make big hits. After he signed that big 5X5 contract he started floating to the point where fans were losing their minds. You'd see him leave the bench, do a little skate, and then slowly skate back to the bench; while fans were screaming at him for being lazy.
Thanks to Barry Trotz for complaining to the League about it!
To me, the intent behind the attack should incur a suspension equal to the number of games that Moore was injured, which equates to a permanent suspension.
Steve Moore wasn't a good NHL player. He was looking for a pay day.
Cowardly hit from behind, no respect for the game. Should have been banned for life. The NHL bungled this big time by allowing Vancouver to do exactly what they said they were going to do.
Let's not forget how much of a beast Worrell was for the Avalanche during that sucker punch game 😎
Worrell was ready to kill everyone in the building.
The 1997-2007 era of Vancouver Canucks with jerseys and colors will IMO always be THE best they ever had. 2nd is the Black/Yellow/Red Skate era from late 80's to 1996.
The boring colors of now sucks in comparisson. Love that jersey THG wears from 2005-2007.
The fact he ever played again is a stain on the NHL that can't come out.
There was a few things not normally mentioned that helped lead into the Moore tragedy
- non-suspension on Moore for the hit on Naslund
- Bettman purposely attending the next Avs-Nucks game, forcing both teams to play nice and allowing tempers to simmer for longer.
- granato not benching Moore during the blowout to protect him when it was clear Canucks was after blood.
I've watched enough hockey too remember people doing the opposite of what I listed to help diffuse hostile situations.
Say what you want about one incident bertuzzi was a great player prior to and maybe if the nhl did something about the naslund hit bertuzzi wouldn't have done anything.
He absolutely deserves to remembered for that act of goonery more than his play. But he was a good player before then.
Not making excuses, but again had the nhl suspended Moore for his hit on naslund burtuzzi would have not had to take matters into his own hands. Remember, the nhl was a whole different league compared to now.
@@brandonmartin9498 I do agree with that. Or even if he got a penalty in the game. But still, the Canucks way overreacted. I think Shannon's onto something, that they felt the season slipping away and maybe latched onto this as a way to focus their frustrations.
After the Steve Moore incident, I have absolutely no respect for this goon.
That was a dirty hit by Moore on Naslund elbow targeting the head, causing a concussion........
Canucks got away from their game chasing retribution, leading to suspension
Except the NHL reviewed it and determined it was a clean hit not needing supplemental punishment. You can agree with their choice or or not, but it's not like the league ignored it.
Met him as a highschooler in the early 00s. Grumpy dude.
One thing I’d like to add about Bertuzzi in 05-06; he took the costly penalty for team Canada at the Olympics that led to them being beaten by Russia. That he was even selected was mind boggling (instead of Crosby).
i remember on feb 16 2004 I was 7 years old when steve moore hit naslund me and canucks fans were sad 😢
What Bertuzzi did to Moore was inexcusable. If it were off the ice, he’d have been in jail. His crocodile tears and half-hazard apology afterward never had me fooled. If he really was sorry, he’d have at least donated to help Steve Moore pay for the treatments after the injury. Bertuzzi never should’ve been reinstated after that incident.
He paid Steve Moore tens of millions. I can't remember how much exactly, but Moore was suing him for like $60 million.
@@matthewjudge3763 i’ve never heard of Bertuzzi paying him anything. Where did you hear that?
Criticize him for the events we witnessed by all means, and rightfully so, but don't go assuming things you could never know like "crying crocodile tears". That's just fueled out of passion and anger for the event, which I get, but it's not a reasonable accusation.
@@matthewjudge3763 league took care of it, not Bertuzzi. League didn't want it going to court.
The Canucks handled the buildup to the Moore incident terribly, but Moore should have served a suspension. When their fans actually held a rally in GM Place (as it was called then) parking lot in support of Bertuzzi, I lost all respect for that team and their fans, and it's never returned.
Do Raffi Torres next
The moment is forever what is pointed to when someone argues what can go wrong when players police themselves.
I will be honest, Bertuzzi is the only player I have ever "hated" in my history as an NHL fan. I understand that he wasn't the only person responsible for the Moore incident, but he was the person who "pulled the trigger", and I still haven't forgiven him for that.
You should get over it. Moore didn't die. There have been a million knock outs in the NHL. Unfortunately guys landed on top of Moore.
@@mr.brenman2132 Why? What is the point in forgiving him? It isn't like I am ever going to meet him in real life, so my opinion of him will never make a difference.
Same and time has gone by but some things are difficult to get over. Just goes to show that you can be a rich NHL AllStar and your life can still suck
@@mr.brenman2132Vancouver should have gotten over the Naslund hit by that same logic.
@@johncox7169 So we don't have to see your whining.
Imagine, they had the Sedins on the second line.
I had the weird experience watching him play for my wings in the second half of his career. It always seemed to me that he did hold back whenever there was a scrum. But maybe not. He benefited from playing with the likes of Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
Maybe more games suspended would have given it a different feel. Not sure.
No, he definitely held back. His play as a power forward was much more mature, and definitely more reserved when he was with the Wings. He was a good locker room guy too then, and finally got his attitude straightened out as a Red Wing. It was a long time coming, but I think he got his redemption. There were years though before where he was a selfish, gross man who really couldn't admit the harm he caused because he was so focused on how his own career was damaged.
Do you own red wings?
The one athlete that I truly hate, the fact that we was able to play after assaulting Steve Moore is outrageous. A true black eye on the league allowing this monster to play
Coming from an Avs fan this is amusing. Bet you were happy enough to have Claude Lemieux play with barely slaps on the wrist by the league. Admit that Steve Moore was just as dirty as Bert. Bert had a rotten, selfish attitude for years after the incident that I couldn't stand, but he did eventually change. But don't think that Bertuzzi was somehow so different than some other players, especially ones that played on your favorite team.
@@captbloodbeard Moore didn't end anyone's career. Let it go, Elsa.
@@MDK2_Radio That's as dumb as when the NHL Department of Player Safety says no supplemental discipline is needed for obviously dirty and dangerous hits because there wasn't an injury. Regardless of the injuries incurred, dirty play is dirty play.
@@captbloodbeard then what are you complaining about? You said Moore's hit was "as dirty" but it wasn't jumping on him from behind and landing on his neck. Both were bad but one is quantifiably worse. You can't say they're the same on one hand then act like you're all about player safety and clean play on the other. Pick a lane.
@@MDK2_RadioAnyone's career can end at any time. Bertuzzi didn't intend to hurt him that bad. There have been a million knockouts in NHL history. Luckily most guys get up.
The incident with Moore definitely should have ended his career. When he signed in Anaheim it made me angry and sick that the organization thought it was a good idea.
Nah. Mike Tyson can continue a boxing career after a Rape conviction but Bertuzzi can't continue to play hockey after doing something that's been done in hockey a million times? He shouldn't have cheap shotted the guy but he got unlucky. It was revenge but I'm sure he didn't intend to hurt the guy that bad and end his career. There have been a million cheap shots and a million dangerous plays but you only care about this one because of the outcome.
Got his autograph at the Ducks old practice facility. Even just him sitting their watching the youth kids playing you could tell he was down about something, and at the time I was too young to have been able to remember the Moore incident.
That stretch when him and naslund just clicked was awesome.
Saw Todd B. take down Moore that game, I was very disappointed in him.
After the game where Moore hit Naslund the Province newspaper printed a "Days until next Avs encounter" countdown every edition until the fateful Bertuzzi-Moore incident.
Really sums up the bloodlust in Van for Moore prior to the Bertuzzi incident.
Perhaps hockey isn't life? Perhaps attach your frustrations to something else? Fans and media have a role in this thing as well.
Had it been today's game Moore would've easily gotten suspended 3-5 games. Don't tell me his hit on Naslund was clean because it wasn't.
i remember the bertuzzi incident in 2004 i was 8 years old i fait so bad for steve moore me and the canucks fans
Surprised the rule changes weren't mentioned. They clearly had an impact on his production. It wasn't all purely the hit. His skating was always criticized.
Clearly injuries were a huge part. He basically missed two seasons between back and neck surgery. After that, he was already 32.
i think its okay to say remember moore and to say that bertuzzi was a good player because both statements hold weight honestly was never a fan of the guy after that hit but no one can say he was just an enforcer bc he did so much more then that
14:28 when marty McSorley took out donald brashear was similar to the Bertuzzi/Moore situation
Same punishment was called for, was expected. Then...
Isles fan. I was initially so disappointed when they traded Bertuzzi. After the Steve Moore incident, those feelings vanished
20 years ago we wish todd bertuzzi did hit steve Moore i was 8 years old when saw it on tv we fell so bad for steve moore did play in the NHL again i can't believe what I saw in the game on march 8 2004 we lost 9-2 to Colorado
As a big Kings fan I have the same kinda feeling that Bertuzzi fans have when I think about Marty McSorley. It seems unfair to define a career by a mistake in most cases, but there are some things that are so bad that it SHOULD define you. McSorley and Bertuzzi are two of those dudes.
What McSoreloser do again I forget?
@@MbisonBalrogHigh sticked Brashear in the temple and knocked him out cold
@@MbisonBalroghe Bertuzzi’d Brasher but with a stick
McSorley's career is by now defined by a certain illegal stick. Dude was a liability.
@@humankirk9196He helped protecting Gretzky
If any single moment should have gotten a player banned from the NHL, it was Bertuzzi hitting Moore. Cowardly beyond words.
Hey Shannon. I love your content. Just a quick correction. The hit on Moore came on March 8, 2004. I think the initial hit on Naslund may have been on Feb 16.
Bertuzzi also got a big fat contract in 2004 and he stopped hitting. Moore only fought cooke. Moore grabbed naslund in that game, just before bert punched him. Not defending it but it set him off.
His mix of hitting and soft hands in the wce days was incredible. I admired his hitting myself and he stopped doing it before moore. He should have legally freighttrained moore instead.
Bertuzzi should never have been allowed to play hockey again- ANYWHERE.
Utter nonsense.
One of my favourite Bertuzzi stories is when the kid with cancer asked him to get a hattrick vs. Detroit, and he did. He was never the same player after the Moore incident, but once in awhile you'd see flashes of brilliance.
Dude was actually a shootout machine. Seen it in person
Probably my most hated NHL player of all time!
Cry cry cry.
@@mr.brenman2132 How would it make you feel if you were a professional hockey player and someone beat the living crap out of you, ending your career (and almost your life) in your rookie season? If you are defending Bertuzzi’s actions, then you should be the one crying.
@@nintendofan7218 If I got a 7 figure pay day when I never was a good hockey player to begin with then I would be fine with it. His neck healed. He choose the money.
@@mr.brenman2132is lying.
I was at the remembrance event/game with Bertuzzi on the ice last year or the previous year, he was cheered in Vancouver. I think its positive memories around him still in Vancouver. I have Avs fans in Colorado and they don't seem to take it as hard as Avs fans outside of Colorado.
Bertuzzi was almost traded to Montreal for Theodore. Fun to think about.
Career of Infamy
Best career video! Lots of details
He was never the same player after the Steve Moore incident
I wasn’t watching hockey at the time of the Moore hit, but I remember when he signed with the wings the second time my cousin didn’t like that he was there because of it. So it is amazing that he never got to live any of that down years later.
Why? Start forgiving more.
Just to add some details for other viewers. Bertuzzi ended up having to pay an undisclosed settlement to Steve Moore for the criminal case. And I remember Brian Burke at the time as a Anaheim Ducks GM and former GM of Canucks, signed Bertuzzi for 1 year 4 million or 2 year 8 million I forgot. But to me it was a sign that Burke got Bertuzzi’s back and it was a way to help Bertuzzi get back on his feet after the settlement with Moore. Which I find it nice of Burke.
Also fun fact a lot of Bertuzzi’s injuries are herniated disc related. He had like back pains and stuff. Herniated discs are no joke.
Todd Bertuzzi is a disgrace to hockey. He should never have been allowed to play hockey again after what he did to Steve Moore.
Good thing you never saw some of the older superstars when they played in the 60s and 70s.
@@csolivais1979 yeah? more disgraces make it ok for this guy to be a disgrace? awesome argument
@@andrew6815 just wasn't surprising he didn't get more than what he did based on past incidents. No way would the Union ever allow a player to be banned for life for an on ice incident where no on dies.
@@csolivais1979 surprising he didn't get more than a career ending injury? Smooth brain take.
@@andrew6815Half the Hall of Fame should be removed in your eyes. Moore should hated also because of his dirty elbow to the head right?
TIL Tyler is his nephew not son.
In the early 2000's The Hockey News ran an article profiling both Bertuzzi and Iginla: who will go down as the best Power Forward of their era? They slanted it pretty heavily to Bertuzzi. Funny how things worked out.
Hey Shannon, i know it was a different league when the Steve Moore incident happened. Here's what i've always wondered, and i know we will never know the answer to this, if the league had suspended Moore for the Naslund hit do we think that the Bertuzzi hit even happens?
Bertuzzi was a member of a Kitchener ON private golf club. A friend of mine was a member. Bertuzzi was not well thought of. That is a polite description of his character.
More second hand information.
It's nice that he had a long profitable career, unlike Steve Moore.
Lets not pretend that Moore would have had a long profitable career without the cowardly Bertuzzi attack, either though. Moore was a depth forward with little NHL talent except for causing trouble. He would have been back down in the AHL in a year or two. Not excusing Bertuzzi's behavior, or his shit attitude, but nothing he did or didn't do would have given Moore a good career.
@@captbloodbeard we don't know because he didn't have the chance to play it out.
@@MDK2_Radio He was 26 at the time, couldn't regularly keep a spot in the lineup, and the eyeball test at the time was very telling. Yes, he did deserve the chance to see his career through, but don't kid yourself thinking he wouldn't have ended up back in the AHL in a season or two.
Bertuzzi had to keep playing to pay Moore's settlement.
@@captbloodbeard you must have a lot of other accounts because the amount of likes you're getting everywhere is unnatural, esp. under a comment most people are ignoring. That said, you're only making a prediction of something that can't ever happen in this reality. I'm stating an objective fact. He didn't have the chance to play. You can't say what you say like it guarantees anything. You don't have objectivity on your side.
There's an awesome goal he scored back when he wore the number 27 for vancouver
But I can't seem to find it anywhere besides the intro to nhl 99 on ps1
Also one of the coolest jerseys I own is the early 00s canucks alternate with his name on the back
Random question here, but I’d thought I’d ask because you seem to be able to watch ALL games throughout the league. I just moved from LA, where of course I’d watch EVERY single Kings game possible, to ARIZONA and it seems my cable company only offers BALLY SPORTS Arizona (not Bally Sports West). In tried calling Bally Sports to see if I could buy a package through them but they said no. So….how can I watch LA KINGS games while living in Arizona?
Thanks for the videos! I have to tell a story, as silly as it may be.
During the season where Auld was starting, and we are at a bar watching the PPV game. It was another Canucks loss. The network allowed you to text in a comment, and it just may come up on the screen. My friends texted in something stupid, something about vaggies which didn't come up.
My brother was a (tall) goalie, and loves gear and the goalie swag. He always mentioned Luongo and how awesome he thought he was.
So, I texted in: "Hey Nonis, trade Jovo for Luongo."
I saw it come up on the screen. Possible management saw it come up. Therefore I am responsible for Lu coming to Vancouver. 😅
surprised it wasn't done already
I went to school with his nephew and no not Tyler although he is also from my city, and he got bullied at school because of this hit. Crazy to think his uncle lays some dude out then his nephew goes to school and is called a bad person, and he was the nicest kid man
Moore should of actually been suspended a few games before the naslund cheap shot on martin st Louis
Its on the nhl as much as anyone for not disciplining a 4th liner attempting to take out multiple star players
Was surreal to see him a Calgary Flame for the one season after being disliked as a Vancouver Canuck for many years. Anaheim bought out the second year of his contract before signing with Calgary.
I’m not convinced Steve Moore is as injured as he says he was. Even Joe Sakic hung around with Bertuzzi after the incident when it was in the courts.
Brad May said the negotiations behind the scenes were ‘greasy’.
May also recently came out and said Moore faked his injuries to get a big settlement. He committed an insurance fraud.
it was march 8 2004. that was the bertuzzi incident
Would have been good to hear about his legal obligations regarding Moore, how that all worked out. Nice job as always
The only player I can think of that should have actually been thrown out of the league.
He had some good moments in his final years in Detroit. Makes me wish things could have gone differently.
i remember the HBO 24/7 special between the Red Wings and the Maple Leafs, and one of the glaring omissions was anything related to Todd Bertuzzi. the series was arguably getting stale at that point after the excitement of the initial installment between Pittsburgh and Washington, and i think the fact that Bertuzzi got like three seconds of airtime kinda cemented the fact that show wasn't what it was anymore.
Nice. Have you done a Stu Grimson video?
Good friends with Naslund and he took it to heart his friend was injured by a cheap shot
Yes he was gruff, gritty player but he was also a soft guy inside
Causing the injury to Moore, hurting their playoff chances ( as a contender) weighed on him imo
Took away his tenacity and will
He was never the same player
And yes Moore was never the same player either never played again( tragedy)
Moore was at his best a bottom 6 player, who might have stayed in the NHL for awhile
Bottom line both careers got derailed by the incident
this is spot on. The entire canucks organization, team, players, and fans took it to heart when moore took naslund out. Bert felt he got attacked when they attacked naslund and he wanted to get back at him. terrible to see but the score was going to be settled
My issue is Steve Moore already got into a fight with Matt Cooke that game. Is Moore supposed to fight the entire canucks lineup because of the Naslund incident? Usually you get your 1 fight and move on.
moore took the easy way out according to todd, fighting cooke isnt fighting bertuzzi and when bertuzzi was as mad as he was at moore for what he did, he felt that he didnt get his revenge@@justjohnny420
@@justjohnny420 Moore "fighting" Matt.Cooke after fucking every other Canucks isn't good enough. Moore dosnt get to choose after what he did. People still stuck up for Bert. Show me one NHLer who publically supports Moore to this day... there are none
I played poker the night after the incident with some of his family members and they said he felt horrible about it.
It's too bad that's what he'll be remembered for.
If Vice did the Dark Side of the Rink, the Bertuzzi-Moore incident would get top billing.
When they lost to Min in 03..
That hilights why u need to build up success in the playoffs. So many good teams that have gone onto to win the cup face those same problems, losing or finding ways not to win a series( not to take away from a solid Min team, who got good goaltending, an MVP series from Willie Mitchell, timely scoring) still that's why u look at teams need to string together series wins to build that strength that has to be won through playoff success buildup ( look at Vegas even they had their downs in playoffs when things were going well- but they have had a string of success in playoffs to build upon)( Det had some tough series that people doubted the abilities of Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Yzerman 🙄to win it all)
Doesn't help a few years meeting powerhouse Colorado in first round( avs win cup)
Next year face powerhouse Det( win cup) go up 2-0 against a better team, soft goal from mid-ice in gm 3, shakes young Canucks team....again no series win, or extended experience
Next year lose in 1st rd tough series to Cgy( loses in cup final)
Next year lose to Min in second rd
Next year lose Bertuzzi to suspension, gutted the top line, a team who was a contender
Again not about suspension, it was a call/action by Bertuzzi that impacted the team
That hung over the team after the suspension and seemed to derail Bertuzzi career
To this day, Todd Bertuzzi is my most hated player all-time. Glad he never won a Cup.
Edit: I can’t 100% place the blame on Bertuzzi. A bit of it has to go to that POS Marc Crawford.
Some should go on Moore for his dirty hit to the head.
@@mr.brenman2132 Moore already fought Cooke earlier in the game. Bertuzzi nearly killing him goes far beyond what Moore did to Naslund.
Crawford forever lost my respect. I tend to purposely forget he coached the Avs to their first Cup.
@@Dutchovenderlinde He didn't mean for him to get as injured as badly as he did. He shouldn't have hit him but shit happens. Vancouver hadn't gotten their pound of flesh yet. It wasn't over. A settlement has been paid. Get over it.
@@mr.brenman2132 so driving his head straight into the ice and fracturing multiple vertebrae is unintentional? Next you’re gonna tell me that Marty McSorley didn’t mean to swing his stick at Donald Brashear’s head 🤦🏻♂️😂
The league failed should have suspended Moore for the Elbow on Naslund. You fook around you find out.
Don't excuse thuggery. I agree they should have suspended Moore, but they should have banned Bertuzzi permanently.
@@MDK2_RadioNo they shouldn't have. Should the guys that elbowed crosby have been suspended for life? Should every enforcer been suspended for life? Absolute nonsense.
@@mr.brenman2132did that guy end Crosby’s career? Was Bertuzzi an enforcer? Stop with the invalid comparisons.
I loved Bertuzzi he was one of my favorite players ever. One of the best power forwards to ever play the game. I dont agree with what he did to Steve Moore that was a tragedy that ultimately derailed his career. I remember every time he got the puck after that you would hear boos in the crowd.
You make it sound like the tragedy was how it impacted him and his career. He got everything he deserved because his official punishment was so light.
So how about a career video of PJ Axelsson?