The Story of Candace Newmaker
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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Frankly, this “rebirthing” horseshit is child abuse that attempts to trauma bond miserable children to their evil guardians. Profoundly disgusting.
Pretty close to stockholm syndrom
Bingo. “I just want to FORCE this terrified kid to adore me. AFTER ALL I’VE DONE FOR THEM! “
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 rebirthing in a nutshell
Yes exactly. Btw I heard is somewhere that being born is one of the most traumatic thing a person can experience so its kinda lucky that we cant remember to that.
So simulating that experience is like torture.
@@Alex-be2wo literally! Birth is super traumatic, you're going from safe and dark and warm to bright, loud, sensory hell.
As a nurse, Candace’s foster mother should have been aware of the risks of things like positional asphyxia and suffocation.
I’m glad her last words were “no”. She never gave into those fools. It’s going to haunt them for a long time
Except it won’t haunt the woman who led this torture, because she still whole-heartedly blames the child. It’s a shame no one in her prison has taken upon themselves to give her a proper punishment.
@@LL138TM2723 yeah it probably wont haunt them, if anything they will hate the kid for dying because it got them put in prison.
@@LL138TM2723 yeah, I’d love it if someone were to give her a “rebirthing” session in prison for all her misconduct
These people are animals and they killed child and yet blamed the child for it that is just petty and just fucked in the head she deserves a better life she'd deserve better not to these fuckin animals
And why is it always large women squashing these little children. I'm claustrophobic so I'd be a mess, horrific.
16 years was the MINIMUM. They killed a child and got less jail time than some people get for weed possession.
The US justice system is a fucking joke. It's insane how these asshats got off so light
Now I'm not SAYING someone should leak her address online for all to see... I'm just IMPLYING it. Big difference.
@@thekeyandthegate4093 Oop-
@@pinkanime_cat1460 agree
@@thekeyandthegate4093 fight idiocy with more idiocy 👏
I think what frustrates me the most is just how fucking vile they spoke as they were supposed to be treating a struggling child. Literally allowing her to puke and defecate and watch as she turned blue and cried. What inhumane monster does that and thinks "oh yes this is normal"??
Sounds more like these frauds got off on a twisted power kick rather than wanting to help anyone. Absolutely sick.
They were literally bullying her, calling her a quitter, saying disgustingly “look at her sleeping in her vomit”. Who the fuck does that?! They are Actual monsters who should suffer the same way they killed her.
Exactly. At the fist sign of being unable to breathe, especially when it continued, all the adults in that room should have readjusted and made sure everyone was safe. As soon as she vomited, they should have been done. In their break, they should have gotten her out of those blankets. There were opportunities over and over to make sure she didn't die and they took none of them, all the while berating the child who just wanted not to die.
@@amiaswolfgang If they really cared and believed in this therapy, they would have explored all possible outcomes (death being one of them) and had emergency personnel nearby.
Then again, the mother was a nurse so she should have known better.
@@l0remipsum Exactly this. The fact that your average bondage enthusiast is safer than people who claim to be and act as medical professionals, especially with children, is horrifying.
Edit: just feel the need to clarify, I see I jumbled my words initially and I don't want to be taken the wrong way. The average bondage enthusiast does NOT work with children, that's nasty. The closest you ever get to that is two teens consentually experimenting together, which is normal and totally fine. The fact that these self-claimed medical professionals were working witch a child should have meant they were held to the highest of standards, and yet they fell so short of people who restrict each other's movement and hit each other for fun that a real humam being died and they did nothing to stop it.
@@amiaswolfgang lol well put!!
This story always breaks my heart when I hear it. Candace was a kid who needed a loving home and someone to help her navigate what she was experiencing... She didn't deserve any of this.
I find it very triggering because my school had a very similar restraining procedure
I was an autistic student there do i had to go through it
Are you a parent
@@joshpoke3829 bro if u think someone has to be a parent to feel bad for a child after they were pretty much murdered by several adults in some looney toon ass stunt, i feel sorry for you.
@@MOONATlC ease up there chief I am a parent both my boys where heavily depressed and had other mental issues in which was crazy I quite my job my wife kept working god bless her and got our sons into a good life I get rabid when I see comments ohh my thoughts and prays go out just to get thumbs up and don’t give a f$&k
She S.A. two kids.
Let's NOT call them therapists, they were unlicensed meaning they were NOT therapists, they were criminals doing illegal activity and torturing a child.
Immensely on point.
These morons were going to kill someone eventually. The word "needless" was apt by the judge. Every step of the way this death could of been avoided if they were not so callous, ignorant and non-chalant about the safety of the kid. I would honestly say with the mentality of this group of dumb asses they could be fucking medically trained, given proper safety material, a lab and full funding...and they still would of killed this kid - or someone else - these people are the human equilvant of looking at someone hammering a nail into a wall that's twelve stories up in the air on nothing but a wobbly flag pole to sit on why they do it.
When you see it, it becomes almost impossible ot believe that the outcome wasn't on purpose. It's such a stupid act that it crosses into evil.
The-rapists…?
Her calling them unlicensed therapists was the dumbest thing I ever heard 😂 everyone here in the chat is an unlicensed therapist since we never got a license, same with me being an unlicensed barber since I buzz my hair on my own.
@@playandgrowtv9846 Dude, this isn't the time to talk about that.
@@Rukzy Unlisenced therapist would be an actual term. If you have made a profession in therapy then you’re considered a therapist, legally yes they’d be unlicensed therapist which is something the court could use.
My two cents here: even if this shit had helpful results, you can't overlook the fact that a thing called trauma bonding exists. We see that in abuse victims too, the abuser also is the saviour in these cases so victims may choose not to leave. You can see how unhealthy this bonding is since if the vic had other support systems they could bond healthily they wouldn't stay. Do you want your child to bond to you in an unhealthy way and live a fucked up life until they die or find themselves in more fucked up situations?
Fantastic point
I'm glad you mentioned this. Trauma bonding is exactly what I thought of when I first heard of this "treatment," & I don't think it's talked about often enough, particularly in cases of domestic abuse.
I read about this story in a Wikipedia article just before this ws uploaded and i was very disturbed. It turns out this rebirthing procedure is used only used in clinics situated around one town in illinois i think.
Strong argument against this pseudoscience. The parent positions themself as the child’s savior from a situation they also put them in
WAIT TRUR
The way those ADULTS noticed that Candace vomited and voided her bowls and begin to almost mock her and then begin calling her names, "twerp"?!! And also saying "leave her in her own vomit let's me know SOMEONE if not all of them got off on this somehow.
EXACTLY they clearly enjoyed putting her in pain
The ringleader "therapist" still insists she did nothing wrong, and hates that her abuse - I'm sorry, "therapy" has been outlawed.
It's seen as manipulation. I went through this therapy. Everything the child does is seen as manipulation. they probably fully believed she made herself vomit to stop the therapy. Anything that stops the therapy or anytime the child (or parent) forces back against the therapy the therapy intensifies. I'm glad I didn't go through rebirthing, but that is only one technique within Attachment therapy.
Almost? They DID mock her.
@@WobblesandBean
yup. they expressed no remorse and were still let out to hurt more kids. disgusting.
The entire foster care system in the US needs to be reconsidered. It is a big business, and it's not uncommon for criminals to take in as many foster children as they can to make money. Then there are the predators.
The only way this can happen is people contact their state senator so they can raise the issue.
I did a paper a year ago about foster care. They had found that so many foster homes had a REGISTERED child predators in the home. Foster care in the US is a joke.
But without it all these children will be homeless...
@@matthewrease2376 The vast majority of kids in foster care were taken from their biological parents by the state.
@@maxwellschneiter that's messed up too
I don't believe these people ever wanted to help Candace. I don't believe these people truly saw Candace as a child with struggles and rough start to life, just your generic "problem child choosing to misbehave". That and I have never heard anyone say that a child, "chooses to be born" . What a dumb statement.
it seems to me that the goal was for candace to have her spirit broken and sense of power and purpose destroyed, similarly to what was/is commonly done to preforming animals. i don't doubt that for those who carried out this procedure, there was a sick catharsis in it for them to restrain and abuse candace. you can see it in the way they spoke about it during and after the operation - belittling her and blaming her for her own death. it was power, revenge, and the attempted destruction of her mind, but she died with a simple "no" as her last word and never quite gave them that sick pleasure.
The whole process sounded like victim blaming an UNBORN BABY. So gross.
I feel like even THESE people didn't believei n this therapy. They don't act or take precautions which if you were a true believe that you were to help kids you think some level of care and consideration would enter at some point. The constant callousness and cruelity and literal "die. lol. sit in shit" is literal torture mentality. I mean, think the therapy is dumb or not. I mean...for fuck sake. If you are doing something where someone could suffocate you think the bare min effort and safety they would do is keep a stop watch about.
@@ndfdm5705 This form of therap is built on the philosophy that the child is choosing their behaviour, that the child needs to be broken and rebuilt. The whole thing is rotten. The whole thing consists of mentally torturing a child until they break like you said, and its like that by design. There is a whole (unregulated) industry built upon "troubled youth" and all of them aim to mentally break down a child who is already struggling.
Well that's what unchallenged beliefs can lead to
This is enraging. Knowing that they just said “go ahead and die”. Therapy is supposed to help. And I don’t know what this helped. Just tragic
they prob thought it would get her angry and make her want to live more..... no... it doesnt.
@@lilatune I think they genuinely wanted her to die. No one who says something like that to a child are anything but unempathetic monsters.
@@lobstersonskateboards3988 seeing as they were talking about their dream lives in the break, acting like she wasnt there. i whole heartedly believe they were serious when saying it
@@lilatune If that’s the case then they’re even dumber than I assumed just from their brilliant idea that more trauma would untraumatize children smh
@@lilatune This attitude is the bread-and-butter of so many child and teen "tough-love" "help" programs. Their philosophy is that treating kids like garbage, putting them down, and declaring them worthless to their face will make the kid want to defiantly "push through" in order to "prove them wrong". It's a philosophy that's borrowed from American military training programs intended for adults and its (sometimes, sadly, literally) fatal flaw is assuming that kids are just short adults whose brains work the same way.
When Child Abuse is disguised as "Therapy".
There's a special place in Hell.
A huge percentage of "treatment" for kids with "behavior issues" is literally just tor+ure
I worked in a "behavior classroom" and the entire mechanism was dog training, which I don't use on my dog because it's too distressing. It's totally unacceptable. Staff pretend they can't see or hear kids who have been demoted to "level 1." Kids on level 1 have to earn the right to be acknowledged as being present in the room. It's repulsive. And that's in public schools. It's disgusting
@@no_peace do you want to teach a child that they need to work for love, and that they don’t deserve it otherwise? Because this is exactly how you do it
@@no_peace man, the sad thing is that those kids probably return home and their parents see a noticeable change in their behavior and think “oh it’s working” but they have no idea about the long-lasting damage it’s going to do to those kids’ mental health, and their ability to form healthy relationships, probably for the rest of their lives.
Likewise, I went to a "special ed" school for my depression, very similar tactics were used on us, including physical restraint for even minor difficulties which would make things worse by distressing someone further and often humiliation, degradation, etc. Went there from late grade school to early high school. Fucked me up permanently, I've been left worse off than when I entered.
@@no_peace Heavy medication for ADHD, depression and Asperger's really messed me up as a child. Children need loving, Christian parents more than anything.
I’ve heard of this case before. Absolutely awful, no child deserves to go through such a atrocity. Candace deserved so much better. Everyone involved deserved to rot in prison, not get a light sentence then be able to go out and blame the poor girl for the brutal death they cause.
Personally i think everyone involved should be crucified literally.
u hear about it from petscop too? I saw the title and thought it was familiar, didn't remember until I heard rebirthing
@@dingledonk8027 yeah I did. Watched MatPats video when it first came out. As soon as I saw the title of this vid I immediately knew what it was, that kind of case just sticks with you
@@dingledonk8027 Yes I was looking for this comment
@@katanderson1875 nightmare masterclass has a great analysis series on the game
It’s like rebirthing “practitioners” saw abused children and thought, “You know what will help them? More trauma!” It like the cartoon logic of someone with amnesia from a head injury getting their memories back from another head injury.
There’s a reason these people weren’t licensed; they can’t even manage basic common sense.
As a professional who worked in this field, it bothers me to hear "all she needed was a loving home". I get it, yes she needed (and deserved!) a loving home, this is by no means ALL she needed. So often kids are passed around homes because people who foster or adopt think all the child needs is love and everything will be fine. No. It takes a very special person, with a specific natural or learned skill set, and a lot of time and extra money to deal with, stabilize and develop a child with a high level of need. So many people think they have what it takes, and quickly learn they are wrong. Sad to say, with the need so high, our child protective systems will quickly place a child out pure necessity to willing but severely unprepared parents. If you care to read this far, thanks for listening to me rant. Keep the hope alive, keep praying, and keep being good to each other!
Firat they need a parent who doesn't think they should be greatful they got to experience the trauma of going to live with strangers.
And that's not the adoptive parents fault, honestly, these people are desperate for a normal family, and its never really explained how not normal the whole thing is.
Foster parents should have at least a course on parenting.
@@Air_Serpent Here in Texas they do, but in the classroom setting there is no way to fully prepare an individual for the reality of dealing with and providing the level of care needed for children with such challenges.
Thank you, you're right. She needs more than a loving home, she needs understanding and smart parents.
@treeghettox Congrats on completely misreading what the person wrote. Children slip through the academic cracks all the time. I hope you never become a parent or teacher
I heard about Candace's story from a Petscop theory, and covered her story in one of my classes when we were learning about child abuse (which wasn't great timing for me due to recent events I had went through, myself).
From The Game Theorists
I was too
I literally heard about her story about a week before this video came out
Same here, I read Newmaker and instantly thought about the Newmarker plain.
@@deadhumanisalive “she wandered the Newmaker plain”
i was a foster kid with RAD & had to go to pretty fucked up "treatments".. not like this, but similar w/ the physical pushing & roleplay. they (obviously) did nothing, just made me feel worse.. like i'm still recovering from the bad pseudoscience shit *in addition* to all the stuff that happened when i was very little.
obviously this entire story makes my blood boil because a child needlessly died, because she suffered the entire time and was berated. it hurts to imagine how she felt. i can imagine how she felt.
but what really dug it in was when the demon lady said her death AND LIFE were a tragedy. her life was a tragedy because that woman cut her life short. she had no fucking right.
candace could have had a good life. she could have found connection and joy. it would have been hard (especially with the baggage from this bullshit "therapy") but not hopeless. she could have found love and freedom. music that made her feel alive. passions that made her excited to wake up. there would be bad days, but life held so much possibility. it was stolen from her.
our justice system is flawed. the fact that that woman showed no remorse tho.. there are people on death row with more redeeming qualities than her. i'm not usually this vengeful but i wouldn't be heartbroken if an elephant stepped on her
I'm so sorry you had to go through those kinds of "therapies" too... But I'm extremely glad you survived. The justice system, foster system, and mental health system is all incredibly flawed.
death by elephant would be way too disproportionate
she'd be dead in seconds, the child took a couple hours. She should go into the breaking wheel
Her want for the "love" of her adopted daughter was more important than the free will and life of the child
You never had RAD. It’s not real. Not like this. It’s the condition that babies get when they’re abandoned and left to rot for years in orphanages. You didn’t have RAD. For me I just had PTSD. BUT unless you just ADORE your rescue owners, I mean parents, you aren’t a good dog, I meant KID.
Really these parents should stick to rescuing dogs.
@@mckenzieschmitt2841 I don’t think you know what you are talking about. RAD is very real for adolescents and young adults who were neglected at a young age. Example: a girl who was neglected from birth, and then gets adopted by abusive parents. She does not know how to love because all the people who were meant to love her didn’t.
I recall hearing this story a while ago. It’s absolutely disgusting that these grown people would tell a child to die and wouldn’t even let her come up for air
It’s evil. So evil.
It was a sick power fetish for them. I'm sure of that.
I remember how the creator of Petscop says he regrets basing a huge chunk of the series on this story, and I cant blame him. Such a terrible thing to happen to such a young girl that just needed any kind of real help. The foster care system treats people like pets instead of humans a lot of the time
Candace's Family was harassed 16 to 18 years after her death because of Petscop.
And Game Theory fans seem to do it over and over again.
I wouldn't have known about this story/case/tragedy without him doing so though. I don't think many would. It definitely can be seen as offensive but I don't think overtly. Its good to get someone's story out and let them be known and the people who hurt them forever shamed.
Uh, pets shouldn't be treated like this either. The problem is people treating children and pets like objects and belongings.
@@NecrozmaJade I don't think you understand the point of the comment.
He shouldn't regret it. He made light of a case that needed more attention. Many including me wouldn't have heard about it if it wasn't for him.
The core themes of Petscop revolve around child abuse and the flawed foster care system.
I can't even imagine how much Candace suffered before she died. That poor girl never had anyone to protect and love her. I've read the whole transcript of Candace's re-birthing session and it's horrible. I don't understand how you can hear a child crying and pleading for air, see them vomiting and pooping their pants, and doing nothing about it besides telling them to die. It's especially mind boggling that a pediatric nurse would do this to a child. I hope that Jeane Newmaker was reported and lost her nursing license. She should never be allowed to treat anyone, let alone children.
I agree with you, though I still think far more of the blame should be put on the therapist and Brita St. Clair and Jack McDaniel, the therapeutic foster parents who convinced an exhausted Jeane Newmaker who should have known better that this would help.
The therapeutic foster parents are the ones you turn to when you are desperate for help and at your limit, this was there idea, these are not the kinds of people who should be allowed to be therapeutic foster parents. These are literally the people who are supposed to help struggling kids and adoptive families and they did far worse then just fail.
And the therapist, i mean there is nothing more to say about her, everyone knows that she's a monster.
Of course this isn't really about who deserves more blame, they are all guilty.
@@Parasolhyena The "therapists" definitely share the blame. It just blows my mind that a pediatric nurse could participate in suffocating a child like that. The re-birthing shouldn't have happened at all and should have stopped when Candace said she couldn't breath, but it definitely should have stopped when Candace started vomiting and pooping her pants. That was her body expelling bodily fluids before death. As a pediatric nurse, Jeane would have known that. Jeane watched and helped kill Candace and did nothing to stop it even when she knew that Candace was dying. But that's not to say that the "therapists" aren't to blame. What they did was horrible and predatory.
@@Parasolhyena I feel as a medical professional, she is even more culpable. She should have known better than to trust some quacks who promised her the moon. BUT she was upset that Candace wasnt bonding with her the way she'd hoped and instead of going to a trauma informed therapist, she went to some quacks with an ideology that wholly blames the child and not the parents or caregivers, that physically restrains them to the point of fear and panic then trauma bonds them to their sociopathic parents.
All I have to say is that people with psychopathic tendencies are drawn to positions of power (police officers, doctors, CEOs) because it allows them to abuse others more easily
Just because you’re not getting results immediately in therapy, DOESN’T mean it’s the therapy’s fault and you must seek pseudoscientific practices instead. Children seek long-term stability. There is no place for experimentation in a child’s therapy setting. You’re an adult - learn to wait or suffer the consequences of permanently damaging an already struggling child.
God, I feel like normal therapy could have really benefitted her if they had just found the right therapist. I know from experience, it takes a while to find a good therapist, but it's completely worth the wait.
Do ANY kids survive that? It sounds insane! Like, you just tell a kid to fight you and when they beg you don’t do anything? When I heard re-birth I wasn’t expecting anything good, but wtf IS this?! And to hear them say “oh, the child is asleep in their own shit and vomit” when you are then told she was brain dead… she wasn’t even asleep in it, she was comatose in it, she was DEAD in it. Thinking about that comment again after learning that is chilling, it’s horrifying
They do, but i imagine theres probably some who suffered mental issues or possibly commited suicide due to the trauma
@@GorillaWithACellphone yeah, I don’t doubt this would make things worse for survivors as well
Agreed, what the actual fuck did i just listen to
"Yeah let's put 600 pounds on her head and see if she can escape" they're monsters who got off easy because they played dumb and incompetent. They need to experience what they did to little Candace. No justice has been served
I hate that this happened to her, but I respect the fact that her last words were "No." She never gave in to their bullshit. That alone is a sign of strength.
Dangerous misunderstandings of how childbirth and babies work, dangerous misunderstandings of how parent-child relationships work, no understanding at all of trauma. They claimed this was supposed to build trust and yet, even if she survived, all it would have done is reinforce distrust. The adults were a threat toward her, actively restraining her, restraining harder when feeling unsafe made her panic, bullying her through it all, and her mother was complacent with it all. And literally... why do some parents think their children would want to be close with someone who hurts them physically or emotionally, or forsakes them when they have needs...
I remember this case when it happened. It scared the crap out of me because my mother was into the the same kind of garbage. She even once suggested a “rebirthing ceremony,” but luckily I was old enough to refuse. If I had been younger I might not have had a choice. I wasn’t even a bad kid, I just didn’t get along with my mother. Naturally instead of looking at herself she blamed me for failing to bond, or some such nonsense.
abusive narcissistic moms are the worst.. My mom constantly berated me, insulted me, tore me down, judged and insulted my interests, and would even beat me here adn there. In middle school and high school, when I was of course very emotionally unstable due to all of this + puberty, my behavior was quite bad at school. Of course, my mom, in her infinite wisdom, decided the best course of action was even more and worse abuse. I remember her saying several times that she doesnt know whats wrong with me and that she doesnt know how else to punish me. it never occured to her the problem wasnt me, but her. Infact, whenever someone would even imply that, she would go into a blind rage. She couldnt fathom the idea that she was doing something wrong, and punishing me in every way she could think of ending up not fixxing me isnt actually a problem on my end. Even today, she acts like I dont exist, insults and berates me whenever I talk, and is extremely transphobic twords me ever since I came out. Man, fuck her.
The assault and violence reports were actually false, the only reason they sent her for that therapy is because she wouldn't take them as her real parents, which makes sense with all the false accusations, attempts to 'fix her', and ongoing therapies they put her through. As said in the video, many people say she was a loving child, including her teachers.
It wouldn't make sense for her to assault 2 kids and not do the same in a place filled with many other kids. She didn't have the mental capacity at that age to try and maintain a reputation for the sake of literally anything. If she was truly violent, she would off been that way in front of others too. She clearly was being defensive against the people she took as a threat. In the most obvious case, the parents took her defensiveness against them as violence.
Even while being a nurse, she didn't stop and rethink what she was doing. Education is a waste if not applied in real life.
Candice is not the quitter here, the foster mother, if we could call her that is.
She gave up on Candice as love is not something given for free.
I saw someone in the comments saying that her apparently SA two kids meant she basically deserved it, or at least by how they wrote it, that's what they were implying. That's just so gross. Like what sense does that make. I fully think that the foster mother was lying about it. because the lines didn't add up.
Also i replied to that person, and quoted you, hope you don't mind. You said it this better then i could have
@@ashuraconla2550 Ofc I don't mind. I love my opinions to be known.
But in all seriousness, to imply that she deserved it in any way is absolutely disgusting. They should watch their words in a crime documentary comment section especially without thinking or researching that piece of information they used to justify it.
Also like...COCSA is a thing. It's more common than you might think and more often than not, a child's way of attempting to cope with their own experiences with sexual abuse.
@@ashuraconla2550 Her foster mother may have been lying about it, now that I think about it. Because if she had done that, she would have to be registred as an S-offender for the rest of her life. I mean, there would be a police report and she would have to be on the registry. Truth is, kids can get put on the registry, and most of them will never be able to have that removed.
How do you know they were false? Are you under the impression that kids cant abuse other kids, or that abusers dont single out their victims?
The idea of labeling a child who has no concept of what's even being proven at the time a "quitter" is the most soulless shit I could imagine.
This in particular hit me really hard. Candice's suffering reminds me of what I've been through only if it were cranked up to 11.
When I was around her age I was aggressive and misbehaving, I was sent to counseling and sometimes had to be locked in a room to be contained. I've been made to feel worthless and horrible before, sometimes by my own father. I've undergone treatment and have resisted help. I've even been sit on by the adults when I refused to sleep in preschool. But still, when I hear of what happened to this child, even though it's astronomically worse than anything I've endured. She reminds me of me. It's like seeing an alternate version of myself where nothing went right for me, where there is absolutely no hope and no support so that despair is all that is left.
I am so sorry. How grown adults can think thar responding to your aggression with aggression is mind blowing to me.
That's awful that anyone would treat a child like that. Your story might not be as intense as Candace's but it's still so cruel
Absolutely love when killers use the "they could have not died if they didn't want to" excuse because it flat out exposes their narcissism and stupidity
It’s the same reasoning Jigsaw gives in Saw
This case is So Unbelievably Awful. Thinking about how Candace had to have felt, how much she pleaded with them to stop just to be mocked, it's Terrifying.
This story made me sick... that poor little girl spent the last moments of her life being tortured and belittled. She must have been terrified when they kept telling her to "go ahead and die". What evil monsters.
Candace couldn't even be given the courtacy of dying with any kind of dignity, and that is honestly just upsetting.
I'll admit that when I read her final word, my heart snapped in half. What a tragic and short life, this child had.
every time i hear/see something about this story.... like, this has been my idea of the most nightmarish way to die and someone ACTUALLY went through that. how did anyone think this was a good idea
Heard about this story, like many others here, through the Petscop series. It's so awful. So much so that the creator of the Petscop videos regretted taking elements of the incident and adding it into the series
I feel like maybe it was a good thing, it brought attention to her case and to the garbage fire that is the foster system. And the justice system for that matter
@@axo9813 Man fuck Game Theory
i appreciated petscop bringing light to her name, case, & the abuse of kids in the foster care system as a whole, but i can definitely see how fans playing into the whole "ooo spooky internet arg" minimized the real-world implications
It seems like a very sensitive topic to make a horror series around, but it brought me here today and I'm glad for that. I live in the town where Candace died and had never heard of her until today. I was a rebellious child, and I had asthma. If I got too upset or panicked, I would breathe too hard and trigger an asthma attack. If I was in Candace's shoes receiving that type of therapy they would have killed me too. I'd panic and give myself an asthma attack, and their weight pressing on me + refusal to let me free and give me asthma medication would ensure I suffocate. That's a terrifying thought.
I was traumatized enough by things like school principals screaming and cussing at me, even threatening to fight me in one case, because I would go silent and refuse to acknowledge them when being scolded. Even if I survived this therapy it would have mentally scarred me. My heart goes out to this poor girl, and any victim of this "therapy."
How did they not ALL get life in prison. This is beyond me, while people with weed possession get more prison time than murdering a child. Absolutely horrible justice system.
Welcome to America
The overwhelmingly tragic loss of a child is the only thing that can overshadow the tragedy of a justice system that allows people who murdered a child, on video, to go free. Its an embarrassment to be a part of a world that doesn't punish childkillers, and it's my sincere hope that someone out there does what the system should've done.
Dude, taking the law in your own hands wont help anybody.
@@toumabyakuya nah, child killers can go to hell by lawful and unlawful means
@@franciscoreyes7653 Thing is that if everybody takes law in their own hands then the only destination that awaits us is a dystopia.
@@toumabyakuya don't care, kill 'em
@@toumabyakuya so who will do it? These scum will only hurt more and more people, and you want us to do nothing about it? The justice system doesn’t care.
Oh my god, none of them were human. Rest in peace, Candace, you deserved *so* much better
Heartwrenching, senseless, and horrifying tragedy. Thank you for covering this case. It's rare that I'm speechless. This is one of those times. Hugs
Holy fuck, this video just triggered repressed memories of therapy very similar to this in Colorado Springs from my youth in the late 80s early 90s...I am not a well adjusted adult at all these days. I'm actually on disability for my panic disorder which didn't manifest until after these "treatments". I was adopted and was despondent as a child because my parents were in the middle of what turned out to be a 12 year divorce and custody battle that spanned like 9 states. I was always the new kid and people always tried to fight me because every 5 months I'd show up in their class half through the semester with no friends and no hope in my eyes. But somehow even with all of that when I went for help from adults they told me it wasn't my environment, or the people bullying me oh no, it was me. I was the problem they said. When I started fighting bullies and winning I started getting in trouble. That's when the treatments started. They said they would MAKE me care. They held me down and talked shit to me. Said I didn't care about anything and wouldn't let me up or let me even control my body until they felt like I deserve it. They said I needed to FEEL like I deserve it. All it did was make me feel like I deserve to be held down, and like people wanted to attack me.
I'm still not ok and even though I'm 40 now I don't think I'll ever be ok I can't go shopping alone or during the day or to a movie or show ever. Dr. Kenneth is an evil piece of shit and he destroyed me over a 9 month period at the behest of the monster Dr. Louis Krupnick and now I remember it completely.
I am so sorry to hear you went through this. I hope you are in a more peaceful place now.
It's scary that anyone would do such a thing to a child. I'm o fucking sorry you were treated like that. If there is hell, these evil people should burn.
how did you get on disability for panic disorder?
@@vickii814 I got a social security disability advocate and she took care of everything with the courts. It actually took a long time and we had to appeal twice.
I wish you wholeheartedly to be able to love yourself.
I remember hearing about this with "petscop" theories years ago, but good God, the added details in this video are heartbreaking. it really hits harder me now that she was in such a helpless situation and her final pleas were ignored and even mocked. It's horrifying.
i also commented something about petscop too. I remember hearing the theory and thinking it was awful but the true story is so much worst. This was truly heartbreaking
"I think of her story as being an American tragedy" - someone who freakin killed a kid
imagine killing someone and calling others "american tragedy" like wtf
@@winglessbat like ffs you're talking about an actual human like they were some shitty story you were writing
She wasnt a quitter, she wanted to be loved in a world that showed again and again that she didnt deserve to be loved. And still this little girl hoped for a good parent.
All kids deserve GOOD parents
Not all Parents deserve kids
Edit: imma say this rn since so many pro-birthers are swarming to this comment thread like flies to shit. Abortion is healthcare, everyone has a right to healthcare, and every child (not a fetus) deserves good parents.
She was so strong. She never gave up on herself even when everyone else did. What a senseless horrific act. I hope the “””therapist””” rots
Yup
ye yo that's why abortion is so important.
@@PublicREC. Yeap and let's be honest not many are ready for that talk lol
@@PublicREC. What does this have to do with anything?.
Hearing the whole story, and what they said- just makes me think they intended to kill her. This was no accident. They KNEW she would die.
I suspect it's mostly unconscious, but basically yeah. The method has two outcomes: either the subjugation of the child, or death. And they're lowkey fine with either outcome. Same can be said for a lot of other supposed solutions for "problem" children.
I honestly only knew about Candace’s story through Matpat’s videos on Petscop. She should’ve gotten a family who loved her, not a monster who wanted a pet.
I really don’t think you would treat a pet like this either, if you truly wanted it.
@@pastelbaby8964 Exactly, people like this should not be responsible for or have any amount of power over any living being. This isn't wanting a pet or a child, this is wanting a puppet.
It did sound pretty familiar, thanks for pointing out!
i only knew about her through Pyrocynical's Petscop video
I love how you said pet as if it’s normal to do this to animals.
That poor girl. I originally learned about this case from a Game Theory video, but this goes way more in-depth and makes my heart sink even more. Poor Candace didn't deserve any of this- she was a child with trauma, and likely a disorder from said trauma that caused her to act out around parental figures. She was just a kid, trying to keep herself from being hurt more. Screw those hacks who called themselves therapists. Just when Candace was starting to make progress, they killed her, and Watkins didn't even have the guts to admit what she'd done. She victimized herself and blamed Candace, despite having the little girl's blood on her hands. I'm not a religious person, but if Hell exists? I sincerely hope that that pathetic excuse of a human being falls to the deepest pits alongside her friends.
Same, and I thought the GAME THEORY VIDEO was bad. I wonder if everyone involved were able to sleep comfortably at night knowing what they did. Absolutely sickening 🤢
Same
Not me. I learned it from Scare Theater. MatPat plagiarized it for his """"""""theory"""""""".
@@Tailikku1 do you know what plagiarism means because what MatPat did isn't plagiarising by any definition of the word. He pointed out similarities between the story of Petscop and the case of Candace Newmaker, which the creator of Petscop confirmed.
@@aidannwildman2277 game theory haters will say all these kinds of irrational things honestly
I’m an adult with untreated RAD (inhibited type, I was diagnosed before RAD and DSED were split) as well as other severe developmental trauma disabilities, all of which are now considered to have no realistic short- or long-term treatment potential given the condition I’m in and how dangerous all prevention tx attempts have been for me.
I’ve asked if anything could have been different, had I ever had access to anything like a doctor or even school before adulthood, and the head of my newest neuropsych team has told me that while I could have had a better outcome if I’d been removed from my environment early on, they consider it a blessing that I wasn’t ‘treated’ for RAD specifically when I developed it, seeing how profound my level of disability is now. It genuinely cannot get any worse and they all consider it a miracle I’m alive at all rn, but had I gone through RAD ‘treatment’ on top of everything else there’s really next to no chance I would have survived at all. This shit needs to stop..
Hey ReignBot, glad to have you back. It's been a while since the last upload.
No matter how many times I hear this story, it makes me so upset. Especially the transcripts.
I don't condone the death penalty, but I'd make an exception for cases like this.
"Life's what you make it" - Everyone who had a reasonably good start.
As soon as I heard "reactive attachment disorder" I knew where this was going. Something to keep in mind about "alternative medicine": if alternative medicine worked it would just be medicine.
Exactly
I've worked closely with kids who have RAD. It's insanely difficult to treat, and wears you down when you deal with it on an ongoing basis. But this... no child, no matter how mentally ill, deserves this treatment. Horrific. I've performed restraints on kids to prevent them from hurting themselves or others during a crisis, but to have that responsibility you have to be so in tune with what is safe and what is unsafe. This is different. They restrained her when there was no threat to her own safety - in the end, the adults who were supposed to take care of her were the ultimate threat. RIP sweet girl.
When I heard about the “rebirthing” I knew it was child abuse. It’s disgusting how anyone can hear about this and think it’s acceptable for a kid to be screamed at while being sat on. All of them should’ve had life in prison, especially the mother for thinking more abuse could help her daughter, and the one woman who didn’t care that she killed a little girl.
i remember the first time i learned about this case, i couldn't sleep. i cried many tears for Candace. she never, ever deserved what she went through. i hope she is somewhere peaceful and happy.
I found out about this a few days ago and couldn't sleep either 💔 I'm in therapy and have learned a lot over the years but it would never occur to me that "therapeutic" practices would exist that had literally killed people. It's the kind of thing that you read and it makes YOU feel like you can't breathe for a minute. What in the actual fuck. How are these people not still in prison.
God imagine dying surrounded by cringey pregnancy roleplay. That's just insult to injury
I heard about this through Petscop... Heartbreaking story that makes me want to throw up every time I hear it. Good video as always, Reign! ❤
The amount of people 'fangirling' over this because they're fans of Petscop is fucking disgusting. This was a real child, a real child carelessly murdered and abused. As a father myself I cannot understand how hearing about this made you giddy and excited, hearing about this tore me up and made me feel sick. Candace deserved so much better and I'm glad Reignbot has pointed that out.
Even the creator of Petscop regrets putting references to this case in the web series, why can't people just not reference it anymore?
Literally no one is fangirling everyone in the comments is being reasonably respectful
I always found these kinds of things terrible and horrific, but after becoming a parent, these incidents are so much more hellish. I cannot imagine the anguish of Candace’s family and that poor child in her last moments
I can't even imagine how scary the last moment of her life must have been. All she must have known was that she was being murdered, and no one was going to help her, not even the woman who was meant to be helping her.
if a parent was willing to do shit like this to her kid because she had some trauma and emotional problems then im willing to wager money that the parent is to blame for those emotional issues
"An unlicensed therapist"
So a random person. No need to allude to a professional title they don't have.
The most disturbing part of this to me is the roleplaying they did when it was happening.
Humans are capable of truly vile actions like pinning down a child to have her suffocate if they just call it something different like "therapy". Even after she died and when they were in court days later, the gravity of what they had actually done still hadn't come to them and they still believed they had done nothing wrong because "it was therapy".
Petscop really surprised me, i thought it was a normal game until people found out about this sad story
Edit- the arg is portrayed as a video game and I know you can’t actually play it
It’s not even a game
what?
Petscop isn't a real game you can play, it's just UA-cam series. It's not an arg either, arg means alternative reality game, nothing about it is interactive.
I was trying to remember why this name was familiar until the narration started and it clicked.
petscop isn’t an arg, it’s just a series. also the candace newmaker references aren’t the plot of the series, they’re just meant to further emphasize the idea of child abuse / adoption
This is so sad and far too common. I'm a North Carolinian and a pediatric nurse as well. A lot of the RAD kiddos are very good at pretending and it's heartbreaking to know why. This can start with something as simple as not being held and getting that much needed skin to skin as a newborn/young infant, believe it or not. Thankyou for covering this case
I remember channel surfing when I was a kid and happening upon some kind of Dateline-ish show, right at the part where they were talking about how Candace choked on her own vomit inside the blanket. It messed me up for a while and it’s still one of the clearer memories I have from my childhood. This poor girl
New reignbot. I'm definitely here for it. Great video as always!
I don't understand how the "she could have freed herself at any time" excuse could be used when she was puking and pooping herself. What person would throw up on themselves and poop their pants and lay there in it for that long just out of sheer stubbornness? How is that not enough of a sign that the kid isn't faking when they say they're really gonna die?
The fact that those murderers *still* didn't feel any remorse just makes me so fucking livid. They literally *TOLD* HER TO DIE! They straight up tortured a child and verbally abused her in the process.....that child's last moments on earth were filled with pain and insults.
And all they got was 16 years? Jfc. I hope they got their asses beat in prison.
ETA: Actually, Watkins didn't even serve the full 16 years. She only served 7 before getting paroled. 🙃
i find what ms newmaker said about candace's behavior pretty dubious... like claiming a 7 year old sexually assaulted someone? that seems unlikely to me. i think in some ways ms newmaker was just as much to blame as the 'therapist', what kind of sicko gets that far into this 'therapy' and still fails to see the issue? any sane parent would pull their kid out of there
I have said this before, i honestly believe that ms newmaker was lying about it. Like how does a 7 year old even know about SA, unless they were victims of it themselves.
You really think kids cant abuse other kids?
@@andieallison6792 that's not what they are saying, if she did do it, she would have been labled as a S-offender for the rest of her life, and she wasn't
@@ashuraconla2550 she wouldn't have. Kids can sexually assault other kids, but again they're children. If anything they get educated about it and told not to do such things, but in more serious cases usually it is caused by the child being sexually assaulted themselves or been groomed some other way. But kids can just explore their body's because they don't know any better, and sometimes with another kid. If your child came up to you saying their friend of same age touched them, youd definitely look twice, but it probably didn't mean that much to your kid. Saying this because i was a very early bloomer child plus having technically been "assaulted" by a boy my age (talking like, 6-8 years old). We didn't know what it meant and we forgot about it. Sexuality exists in children. It's important how we react to it.
This is not to say she *did* do it, but that's it's not impossible for a child her age.
@@ashuraconla2550 You have no idea what you're talking about. In California, you have to be 14 or older to be registered as a sex offender. This age varies state by state, and when it comes to juveniles, most cases that are registered regarding juveniles being the offender are violent in nature such as rape or rough molestation. Also, sex offender registries aren't always permanent. Separated in two tiers, Tier 1 is minimum of 15 years, where as tier 2 is 25 to life.
Im adopted and have RAD. I'm 22. My parents decided to do controversial therapies instead of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT). Part of what they did was forces holding. In these situations, I would thrash around to get free. I have many memories of my parents choking me but they claim they never abused me. I still don't have a good or healthy relationship with them. When my doctor tried to explain what RAD is, my parents took it as "it's not our fault she didn't bond" when in actuality, they didn't take the proper steps that the state warned them about. Sadly, many foster homes and adoptive parents aren't prepared to actually provide the proper care needed for kids in the system. Almost all kids will have something wrong because of the fear of abandonment or health issues being why they were abandoned.
As an adult, I find it fascinating that children and adolescents are effectively treated as inferior to any other human being and are told that they can’t make their own decisions because the adults in their lives are meant to make decisions for them (as if anyone can read someone’s mind). And yet, many are told they’re special and important when something simple like respect isn’t shown to them effectively treating them worse than many pets. Idk, probably just rambling about nothing.
Don't worry, I hear what you're trying to say.
I don't care if it was my mom I would feel disgusted by them laying their body all over mine with their face directly in my face, especially when I am on my back and vulnerable.
Being pinned down, berated, violated, and ultimately suffocated isn't something no child should ever have to go through.
I bet they would be even more unattached than ever before and rightfully so.
First time I ever heard of this horror.
"Reattatchment therapy to help a child bond to a new parent" Me: Oh that sounds like a good idea
"You squeeze the child to death and berate and yell at them" Me: WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCK???
The fact that these people actively did their best to kill a child in the span of over an hour (and succeeding), while also doing their best to break her physique and make her last time as close to a living hell as they could, and somehow did not get tried as among the worst psycopaths in criminal law, is incredibly disturbing. There is absolutely no reality where someone who did this, while showing no remorse after the act and blaming the victim for not surviving should be allowed freely among other people..
Even if she had made it out alive she would probably either be even more “out of control” and reactive to the adults around her, or she would have gone into a fawn state to afraid to act up. If she would become docile out of trauma response I bet they 2ould have seen it as a success too. Because all they cared about was how easy she was to handle, not her actual well being…
She kept claiming there was no weight on her after all that? Kids don't just die for no reason. She begged for air so many times. She literally said she was going to die and that she believed they were purposely trying to kill her. And that lady has the audacity to keep claiming that they weren't holding her down and putting their weight on her? Disgusting.
Nothing worse than a story about a child who'd been completely failed by every adult in her life.
What an awful story. I can't believe that anybody thought the whole rebirthing thing was in any way a good idea that wouldn't lead to such a conclusion. Candace deserved much better than this.
Please cover the "Chiong case" from philippines it is a very interesting case. I dont know if you take any suggestions here. But i hope you see this
Hi, you’ll most likely get a better chance contacting her email linked in her description. I hope this case gets some more coverage
The people involved in this deserve to be hounded for the rest of their lives. The adults in this do not deserve a moment of peace. I feel so bad for Candice
As someone studying to be in CPS , I genuinely feel so much anger when I hear stories like this that break my heart and it’s that anger that keeps me going. Idiotic people like this who would dare harm a child need to all be locked up in the dark like the vermin they are.
I remember when I learned about this case and the terrible rebirthing treatment. It honestly angered me SO MUCH. I got a panic attack type thought just imagining what the experience must be like. Ugh... It's so messed up. (BTW, who the heck actually thinks a baby is self aware and thinks about their experience with being in the womb and that they have a choice to live or die.. to choose to be born.. WTF) these ADULTS are SICK. SICKKKK!!!! F -THEM
Same. I have had people trying to constrain me during panic attacks, and just that level makes super anxious. And in that case the people doing it at least have good intentions, but when I imagine what a little girl must have felt in that situation times 1000… it makes me shake
I am just absolutely furious by the fact that these adults have not been punished enough. How dare they act like victims when they tortured a child to her death? Watching this legitimately felt like listening to a torture story and I cannot imagine how anyone can say this is therapy or any sort of treatment. This is just flat out child abuse, the fact that this girls last words where telling her murderers "no" before passing is so sad.
Great to see you again!!
Every time I hear about this I get so mad how can 6 grown adults kill a child and then blame it on the dead kid
when i first learned about this case, i legitimately had to take to bed for a few days. no exaggeration, no hyperbole, i couldn't do anything but sleep and cry. i sobbed off and on for days and i couldn't function. that transcript was so brutal it sent me into this awful spiral of intrusive thoughts that refused to leave my brain. i'm nowhere _near_ as sensitive as i was back then, but even after all these years i choke up whenever i see little candace's name.
i can't watch the video because of the above, but hey, interaction
Crazy to think people are serving time for traffic tickets and possession of small amounts of drugs and these people killed a child on camera and did less time.
No one is serving more than 16 years for a traffic ticket lol
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I remember when this happened. I'm from Evergreen, and the house where it happened was just a street over from where I lived. Absolutely tragic.
Candace was a beautiful little girl. Poor child, that's a horrible way to die by suffocation, this is such a heartbreaking story. I believe one day this sweet angel will come back to life and have what every child needs, which is to be and nurtured and cared for by a morher that truly loves her!
My issue (I have a few but my main issue) with the “rebirth therapy” simulation is no human remembers their birth. So how could you simulate something that, though we were all there for, none of us can actually recall for ourselves about ourselves? This case (and unfortunately the many others that are similar) is so tragic.
You have no clue how much I missed your videos! Keep up the phenomenal work!!
OK, can any one stop mentioning petscop and gushing over this case as if it's some kind of fictional story?
The creator regrets the references to this case, and I could see why.
I'm so happy you're talking about this! I've sent this story to every true crimer and you're the first to talk about her. Poor baby
literally the day after i start hyperfixating on petscop
regardless this story is immensely tragic and one of the few things that genuinely can keep me up at night. rest in peace candace. you deserved so much better, every adult involved in this story is evil and deserve to burn in hell
Ever since i watched u video you appeared everywhere, are u following me
This is such a heartbreaking story. I'd never heard of this rebirthing concept before, and I cannot imagine the trauma this poor child had to endure. I appreciate when you share stories like these because I feel like I learn more about these things that are happening that I would never even conceptualize.
This has got to be one of the most disturbing cases I’ve ever heard…I can’t imagine the terror this little girl was experiencing in her final moments.. pleading for oxygen and trying to fight for her life against 4 grown adults. I feel sick!
I have been requesting this story from all true crime channels I watch, thanks for covering this obscure case.
What an infuriating and heartbreaking incident. Every single person that heard her say she can’t breathe and didn’t immediately help her is responsible for her death. That poor baby. I literally cannot imagine, even if it weren’t my child, making that angel lay in her own waste while she suffers like that. I know the prisoners take gooood care of them. I hope they suffer just like she did.