I remember playing the demo and how cool I though this game was, then a year later or so, go the full version and damn, that blew my mind. But the demo was cool. I remember raven with pyros as last boss and how cool it was to get to fight that robot. But you only has like christian and 2 others to play as (if I remember correct)
Man, those low-blows are OP. I remember using them quite a bit myself when I played this game, though I did do some fancy moves too. Once I learned the aerial throw with Jaguar I think I spammed it for the rest of the game. XD Also, it's interesting how you LOSE time when you get a perfect round since there is that extra text delay. Pretty ironic.
Yea, we have the same issue with Mortal Kombat speedruns where "Flawless Victory" costs us an extra 2-3 seconds everytime we get it. Striking a perfect balance between taking some damage to remove those 2-3 seconds, but not too much damage that we lose even more time anyway is a tricky part of the run. Sometimes its just better to "go with the flow" and either hope you beat them so fast that the 2-3 seconds dont hurt as much or hope you somehow only take a single hit of damage while not disrupting the combo/AI pattern.
Yeah, lol. It seems this cheese is the best choice considering reach and getting counters on enemy attacks. Every time I tried to mix things up a bit and do different moves I just lost time or even a round. I also tried spamming the Jaguar throw, but that doesn't seem to be as fast ;)
+Dark Tenka Perhaps there should be a run category for 'all perfects', so the extra text time is required by the run itself. That would be a way more difficult run, but also simpler in a certain respect. +einokeino303 What made you choose Electra and that pilot by the way?
We have a category for 100% that only requires beating Fire and Ice and playing on Ultimate difficulty.. All Perfects (maybe also + destruction on all) is an idea. I think we might wait a little on adding it until the current boards are a little more fleshed out .. (unless someone goes ahead and does a run with those rules, then I'll add it immediately for them). Having a large amount of empty boards can be confusing/annoying/pointless.
I tried couple of variations. Selected Cossette as pilot, because she's one of the strongest characters and has some speed also. Steffan could also be a decent choice for a speedrun. Decided on Electra because it's easy to get counters and simple high damage combos. Seems like CPU doesn't block those moves as often.
Thanks :) Should be improvable, did several mistakes here. Nice to see best PC exclusive beat em up getting some love. You guys did good job setting up the game and rules.
Thanks! .. yea deciding on the appropriate settings for dos-box was a bit of a nightmare. I'm happy with the settings we arrived it. If only they knew how to program for Delta-time back then, and it wouldnt be such an issue. =/
Also not sure if you saw in the forums, me and Arkl1te (the other runner/mod) are pretty active on Discord if you wanna come by and have a chat: discord.gg/9a2X3e
I was considering about mentioning the cycle settings. Seems little bit slow with these cycles, but proper speed is completely subjective. Determining best cycle settings for speedrunning these DOS games where performance isn't capped is difficult. I was checking YT for speedruns and noticed this run by CapnClever ua-cam.com/video/89-mhbjVJkk/v-deo.html He is running tournament mode with 20K cycles. I also tried that in 1P mode and it seems perfectly playable. Maybe it would get too fast later in tournament mode though. I'm a bit lazy with chatting, but appreciate the invite :)
Aye, the only reason we didnt go 20k is we wanted to set the Cycles so that the "maximum in-game speed setting" would be the main one used in a speedrun (so that you couldnt go "over" the speed without messing with dosbox). CapnClever ran at 20k cycles but used speed 7 instead of max (need to expand his description box on his video to see those details) .. It's too hard to tell exactly how different it is to know whether or not it is equal though, especially when you factor in Tournament mode with variable stat increases etc.. I hope CapnClever doesn't feel excluded by this. I would love to see him join the fray too, but he may need to perform an entirely new run with the new rules.
I remember playing the demo and how cool I though this game was, then a year later or so, go the full version and damn, that blew my mind.
But the demo was cool. I remember raven with pyros as last boss and how cool it was to get to fight that robot. But you only has like christian and 2 others to play as (if I remember correct)
Man, those low-blows are OP. I remember using them quite a bit myself when I played this game, though I did do some fancy moves too. Once I learned the aerial throw with Jaguar I think I spammed it for the rest of the game. XD
Also, it's interesting how you LOSE time when you get a perfect round since there is that extra text delay. Pretty ironic.
Yea, we have the same issue with Mortal Kombat speedruns where "Flawless Victory" costs us an extra 2-3 seconds everytime we get it.
Striking a perfect balance between taking some damage to remove those 2-3 seconds, but not too much damage that we lose even more time anyway is a tricky part of the run.
Sometimes its just better to "go with the flow" and either hope you beat them so fast that the 2-3 seconds dont hurt as much or hope you somehow only take a single hit of damage while not disrupting the combo/AI pattern.
Yeah, lol. It seems this cheese is the best choice considering reach and getting counters on enemy attacks. Every time I tried to mix things up a bit and do different moves I just lost time or even a round. I also tried spamming the Jaguar throw, but that doesn't seem to be as fast ;)
+Dark Tenka
Perhaps there should be a run category for 'all perfects', so the extra text time is required by the run itself. That would be a way more difficult run, but also simpler in a certain respect.
+einokeino303
What made you choose Electra and that pilot by the way?
We have a category for 100% that only requires beating Fire and Ice and playing on Ultimate difficulty.. All Perfects (maybe also + destruction on all) is an idea. I think we might wait a little on adding it until the current boards are a little more fleshed out .. (unless someone goes ahead and does a run with those rules, then I'll add it immediately for them).
Having a large amount of empty boards can be confusing/annoying/pointless.
I tried couple of variations. Selected Cossette as pilot, because she's one of the strongest characters and has some speed also. Steffan could also be a decent choice for a speedrun. Decided on Electra because it's easy to get counters and simple high damage combos. Seems like CPU doesn't block those moves as often.
Awesome Game! Awesome Music!
Dude! .. This run was sick. Welcome to the leaderboards and congrats on the WR! :D
Thanks :) Should be improvable, did several mistakes here. Nice to see best PC exclusive beat em up getting some love. You guys did good job setting up the game and rules.
Thanks! .. yea deciding on the appropriate settings for dos-box was a bit of a nightmare. I'm happy with the settings we arrived it. If only they knew how to program for Delta-time back then, and it wouldnt be such an issue. =/
Also not sure if you saw in the forums, me and Arkl1te (the other runner/mod) are pretty active on Discord if you wanna come by and have a chat: discord.gg/9a2X3e
I was considering about mentioning the cycle settings. Seems little bit slow with these cycles, but proper speed is completely subjective. Determining best cycle settings for speedrunning these DOS games where performance isn't capped is difficult. I was checking YT for speedruns and noticed this run by CapnClever ua-cam.com/video/89-mhbjVJkk/v-deo.html He is running tournament mode with 20K cycles. I also tried that in 1P mode and it seems perfectly playable. Maybe it would get too fast later in tournament mode though. I'm a bit lazy with chatting, but appreciate the invite :)
Aye, the only reason we didnt go 20k is we wanted to set the Cycles so that the "maximum in-game speed setting" would be the main one used in a speedrun (so that you couldnt go "over" the speed without messing with dosbox). CapnClever ran at 20k cycles but used speed 7 instead of max (need to expand his description box on his video to see those details) .. It's too hard to tell exactly how different it is to know whether or not it is equal though, especially when you factor in Tournament mode with variable stat increases etc..
I hope CapnClever doesn't feel excluded by this. I would love to see him join the fray too, but he may need to perform an entirely new run with the new rules.