Keane & Carragher have HEATED DEBATE over why Man United re-signed Ronaldo! 😮
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Roy Keane and Jamie Carragher did not hold back in the Super Sunday studio after they both disagreed on Ronaldo's role at Manchester United.
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This is the definition of 'heated debate' 👀🍿Is this our most HEATED debate ever?!?!
lool
Definition of a ratio
I beat you to it lol
LOL
Lmao
Whoever decided to hire Keane for sky sports deserves a raise. He's gold
Which ex player hasn’t been a pundit at this point
Calm down it's a debate. Happens in places all the time it's no different just because it's on TV... Jeez
@@steventhompson2511 Well, it's on TV, which makes it different to a debate in other places.
@@steventhompson2511 think you need to calm down. Was you rejected by sky or something 🤣
@@jrobs1133 🤣🤣🤣
Feel sorry for Ronaldo, he went from 36 to 37 in the course of an interview!
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He's on the wrong side of 36
We all aged another year or two watching this
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Hahahahah
Keane defends his club better than their own starting back line does now….
Keane defended his mate ole a lot.
Crictised carrick more here than he ever did ole
Mainly Everything facts
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@@Mainlyeverything that's because carrick is an absolute walley
He is a hypocrite
I love how Keane is barely a second away from losing it like my Dad would. 😂😂
Yep 🤣
You have no dad
@@qwerty11222 great banter there
@@jamesmarsh2828 you also have no dad
@@samn6498 most dry guy I’ve ever seen
That was probably the most HEATED debate they've had on here for a long time. This really was worthy of that title.
Ronaldo is finished not with pace of game utd will finish 10th with him n d team
@@mikewalsh5834 🧢
Quite simply keane is a great pundit. And what goes under the radar alot, so is carragher to, he talks alot of sense.
Bascially, it;s evey time United suffer. That's when Keano blows the f up. I'm relishing this United downfall even more than barca at the moment. £ can only get you so much quality.
@@attila_the_hunk9685 like i say, they r both great pundits, bit imo carragher wins that arguement.
The word "heated" is absolutely spot on for once😂
I was gonna say! xD
Finally
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Yep
Just found a copy of the script...
Keane: "Ronaldo was never gonna win them the league!"
Carragher: "So what's he here for?!"
Keane: "Trophies!"
(Repeat 10 times, with increasing volume)
Keane: "What trophies FA cup"
@@sololife9260 carabao cup?
And yet he berate other for not winning the league hahaha. Hypocrisy at its best. Thinking he also the pundit who defend ole the most. Hahah
-tap tap tap-..."time to go"
There are trophies aside from the league though
2:45 The way Carragher nods his head at Hasselbaink waiting for him to stop talking before resuming his argument with Keane is jokes 🤣
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Looool i can't stop laughing now
@@aaronflavien play at 1.75 that was more funny
Hasselbaink was so far up keane’s ass it was embarrassing
hahaha
Well done Sky, for the first time ever this was ACTUALLY "heated"
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And got 100 rated due to this iconic debate.
2nd actually
@@saeed_05 hi muhammad. Longtime no see.
@@purwantiallan5089 hi purwanti, longtime no see, wagwaan, is there anything wrong with my name
“Ronaldo came to United to win the FA cup” - Roy Keane 2021
This needs more likes
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Honestly I still remember when this was such a Prestigious cup, it was up their with the division 1 title in terms of prestige back in the day. Now it’s just a cup to let the kids run around, not a bad thing I suppose get youngsters some game time and experiences.
@@mimo-bine I'm not sure what you don't get. The FA Cup isn't nearly as highly regarded as it used to be. Hence OP's comment which mocks Keane's comment about Ronaldo going to United to win the FA Cup.
25-30 years ago, the FA Cup final was a huge day at the end of the English football season. Winning it was just as prestigious as winning the league, but now it doesn't come close.
English fans of a certain age still regard the FA cup as very important. Let the winners enter the Champions league and it will regain its glory.
As a Chelsea fan I was very happy Cr7 wasn't starting and I think Keane is right, who would bench a world class super star in one of the most critical games of the seasons away from home playing with one of the best and well organised team that is really hard to break.
He was better than rashford. Rashford did nothing
We were winning 1-0 with him on the bench, think you were more excited about our poor midfield which actually put in a shift that game lol
@@yashhgami utd would have won 3-1 if cr7 started ahead of rashford
Rashford is good but he is need to gain his form back personally i think it is better to start ronaldo first at that match
True, people all of a sudden bantering ronaldo but don't realise that utd have the worst midfield and defense in big 6
Keane is one of those people who, once started down a road, just keeps going. Even if it means you have to claim Ronaldo came back to Utd to win the FA cup. He just keeps going.
Chris Colyer I agree with Keane about Ronaldo starting but the FA cup comment is just comical. I think he was irritated by then. And Carra just can't stand Ronaldo.
I never thought I would see Roy Keane use the FA Cup as being good enough a reason for a player of Ronaldo's reputation and caliber to United. It's a storied trophy but not as valuable as it once was. Give it a champions league place and not a losers cup place, then it will be taken as top tier again.
Just a regular Irishman, I mean that as a compliment.
@@gm2407 he didnt mean he was brought to target the fa cup he was saying that if they are not going to win the title then you don't just bench Ronaldo, you compete for whatever is left.
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Jimmys laughing because he's got a front row seat at the greatest argument of all time 😂
The end though with him tapping Keane’s leg and saying “it’s time to go” caught me off guard 😂😂
That's enough now Roy!
Let them keep going
Claude the legend smilling from heaven.
it was deffo a bit weird
The bromance is real
"brought Ronaldo to win the fa Cup"
Middlesbrough are u sure about that☕😏
I think we all need a friend like Roy Keane. He will defend no matter what.He defended Ole even though he wasn't that good this season. I respect him.
So u want a friend to defend you even if you ain’t doing something right? Shouldn’t you want a friend that tells u instead of hiding it?
@@greatestanalyser2354 if your friend doesn’t defend you, he ain’t your friend.
BradTRC I get a friend defending you but if you’re doing a bad job, a true friend will tell u instead of covering it up
@@greatestanalyser2354 a true friend will defend you in public and tutor you in private
Abdulmalik Alneef I don’t think he tutors him in private lol
That must have been the quickest year in Ronaldos life he went from 36 to 37 in 3 mins 😂
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He’s 37 in 3 months mate. Technically the same thing lol.
He is 37 in a couple of months time (Feb).
Well. He's actually 36.8 years old. A lot closer to 37 years on this planet than 36. Jamie is right....
The tap on the knee and the time to go at the end was one of the bravest things I’ve ever seen a man do 😂
Brilliant
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That’s his job
@@rupeoverlay3153 so goood
True enough . . . Keano could have easily misinterpreted that and in on Jamie at the end there.
Agree with Roy. Ronaldo needs to start the big games, you rest him against lesser teams if you must. Man Utd SHOULD have enough against the bottom half teams to rest Ronaldo if needed but he COULD and likely WOULD be the difference maker against the other big teams. He can't do that if he's on the bench for 70 mins, game is about winning and scoring goals and he does that.
He's not going to press and as Roy says you must take that into account if you play him, when Ole said Rashford must concentrate on football rather than politics perhaps he felt he wasn't doing the leg work required for the guy who partners Ronaldo?.
That's the key element here - Ronaldo is the star player at Utd so others (his strike partner especially) must fit around his game to a certain degree.
Ronaldo needs to play the lesser teams to train the muscles the mind and have games. Bringing him in only to fight the tough games is simply abuse. Imagine only fighting Mike Tyson only and never sparing lesser boxers. When do you test your craft and try things out for the big games. You ask ronAldo do you want to start today. ronAldo in in a different league to others. That's fact. ronAldo wants to do well and doing well does the team well. It goes hand in hand. You don't use Ronaldo for your method, you can't use LIONS. LIONS TELL YOU. ❤️
It is the weaker teams that Man Utd struggled against. They are the games Ronaldo could turn from draws to wins. Against Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool you need everyone pressing all the time. He alters the tactics you can use.
You play Ronaldo against "big teams" in the Prem, and you are effectively playing with 10 men. He can grab a goal from nothing, no doubt, but that is rarely going to win you a game against City, Liverpool or Chelsea because they will blow you away, and right now probably wouldn't even consistently get you the win at West Ham or one or two others. United are playing for Europa League places at best if they can't work out how to get the best from Ronaldo.
Other way round: against the big teams you need everyone pressing. Against the weaker teams Ronaldo can score to assure wins and that’s where they struggled last season.
Absolutely. Some pundits talk absolute rubbish. Play him as much as possible, one of the best players ever to play the game. He's the top performer at UTD.
I get jimmy's point. He's just saying bringing cr7 back will hinder the growth of youngsters such as sancho and greenwood and etc while not making united a PL winning team.
Thats just me.
I can hear this point but even this far Ronaldo has saved United from loses on a few occasions ( not including pens). He fights till the end and these youngsters have the talent but could do with his desire
Sancho and Greenwood are wingers, how is bringing a striker in gonna hinder their development? Nonsence. If anything you can learn from him lol
@@TIM22RoCk Greenwood is out if position at RW and is fighting sancho for the RW position
Greenwood 😬
@@eliass8118 Who?!
We do not deserve Roy Keane, he is absolutely class week in week out. Passionate about his former club, but doesn’t shy away from the truth. This was some of his finest work 😂😂😂😂
"If you see him in the carpark"🤣🤣🤣
It was class before this, disgusted with carrick’s interview and the united board and if you want loyalty go and get a dog 😂
He did shy away from the truth when ole was in charge
This guy Keane is TV gold 🤣 we seriously need to cherish these moments as him being a pundit.
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Tapping Roy Keane on the leg like that is probably up there with being one of the bravest things any man has ever done.
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That's his job
Who wants to see what happened next?
This is why Sky Sports football presentation and punditry is a cut above in this country. They let it flow. 6 minutes without a single interruption from the presenter. Camera didn’t even change. They ‘let the game play’ so to speak.
Also, Carra is right. 😉🎣
Jamie C can take him.
"Jimmy has 774 games in his career
Cristiano scored 801 goals."
------EVRA
That would be a good point if Jamie was trying to argue that he is a better player than Ronaldo which - which he clearly isn’t.
Evra has 720 games Messi has 753 goals....hypocrisy at its peak🤡
@@axxl9876 but is evra badmouthing messi if he gets the chance. No. So stfu if you don't understand the situation
@@htth4263 yes...he even said "he's tired of Messi winning the ballond'or"...so stfu we all know how much Evra dislike Messi
❤️
The end is brilliant, Dave with the "Time to go".. like a parent calling his kid back home from the playground
Glad Keane brought up ‘do you think Rashford pressed today’. They seem so hyper focused on Ronaldo they forget all the other non pressing players in the team who seem to get free passes.
Glad someone understood a word in that exchange
Rashford looked disinterested for the whole game. He couldn't be bothered to close down anyone. He was embarassing today and has been for a long time tbh
I don’t know why they took off Sancho instead of Rashford.
@@filipstefanovski155He's too busy thinking about how to get Knighthood by writing tweets about school dinners.
Aka if you are english they get off with everything
Now this, is HEATED sky sports. Love the emotion and anguish of these fellas, and s/o to Jimmy being caught in the middle of it.
Jimmy just sat back and watched those legends go at it. That, for once, wasn't clickbait.
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lmao, I was like oh it's actually heated for once
Jimmy thinking what have walked into a sketch show lol
roy keane being realistic, behind the message he said with carrick mu not gonna win the league
4:25 Who is here after Man Utd knocked out of the FA Cup by Middlesbrough 😂🤣😂🤣
And now their cup final is over, Boro are back to scrapping for a play-off position in the Championship.
@@andrewhezekiahdaniel what?
@@davidtawse6765 Commiserations
5:14 Hasselbank's smile hearing a good point from Keane and looking over to Carragher for his reply 😂😂
Carragher one of the few pundits who gives it back to Keane. This was heated definitely but in a positive way.
What did he give back here
And Carragher has a point why sign him if you're not going to challenge for the league
@@nathanyabo9445 i agree, then its a waste of money.
sly sports' other Jamie had to change his pants and he was nowhere near the stadium!
@@nathanyabo9445 it was a business decision not a performance related one.
This will go down in history as the greatest football debate ever, from the whole Irish to Scouse back and forth heated argument which hardly anyone outside of the UK could even understand, to the pat on Roy’s leg at the end with “time to go”🤣
I'm in Canada and understood it all.
Although I admit if they wanted to have fun and lay the accent on thick I wouldn't stand a chance, heh.
As for the debate, both make valid points. Carragher is not wrong when he says that keeping Sancho on the bench will stunt his growth. Roy too is correct when he asks why did they buy Ron again if not play him.
I understood
I'm German and I understood pretty much all of it.
🤣🤣 when you say it like that
as a person who never set foot on UK, its easy to understand
Carra is spot on. Everyone was thinking Man utd were title contenders after Ronaldo's signing. Gary Neville even said it himself. But the fact that they are nowhere close to where we all expected them to be shows signing Ronaldo was not the solution. But none of the ex Man utd players will admit that Ronaldo was a pointless signing in terms of club progress.
True especially now they are out of da club
Carra is so wrong, but to win right now, was bad timing when Ronaldo came in when Man Utd struggling for 8 years. You think they gonna be champions in 3 years ? No, Keane was right all along. Compare to Messi and Ronaldo, is Messi doing fine but lack chemistry.
They only signed him to stop him from going to City, nothing to do with winning trophies
Progress????i know a "progress" he done for the club,without his goals in his 1st season they would have finished the league in 14th and in the Champions League they would have been be eliminated in the group stage,with his 5 goals in 6 games they went through.
In 2 seasons Rashford has more 3 goals than Ronaldo...that would be amazing if Ronaldo didnt left 7 months ago.
I dont know if it progress or not,what i know is that he helped the club to not be a bigger joke than it is for the last years.
5:52 the 'oooh' from Carragher 😂revisiting in August 2022 - Ronaldo has spent the whole summer trying to force a move, no club wants him and he even left a pre-season game early to avoid the traffic.
I love how Jimmy just enjoying himself in the middle 😂🤣🤣
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😂😂😂
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Roy Keane is definitely one of the reason why I watch Sky Sports. Priceless.
I like him too but he got himself tied in knots on this one.
@@pflynn581 How is that tied in knots, do you not understand the difference between a cup trophy and a premier league trophy.
@@arkane5260 Of course he does mate. Carra was saying why buy a 36 year old, pay him 500 grand a week just to win an FA cup? You Roy Keane fan boys are getting silly now.
@@arkane5260 Man United did not sign Ronaldo to win the League Cup.
5:43 didn't age well....
Going to have to agree with Jamie here. What is the point of United signing Ronaldo if they aren’t going to win the league? Just an FA cup? You think Ronnie would be happy with just that
They couldn't even make it to quarter finals of League Cup forget about them winning FA cup
Lmao and they got knocked out because of ronaldo penalty miss
Jamie has been proven right,no trophies at all again ha ha ha
Yh wrd
Sky made fantastic football signings with Keane and Carragher. It's a pity the players on the pitch don't have the passion of the two lads in the studio😄
Yes. You are on the spot
Preach
Gesticulating and raising your voice does not mean you have more passion than someone else.
The gesticulating & raising of the voices is from the passion.
The new generation is more interested in wearing dresses and handbags for fashion & instagram than they are for actually winning anything.
@@izdatsumcp for those of us who have watched Keane & Carragher on the field will know what they mean by their passion and commitment.
Dave Jones patting Roy’s leg at the end and saying “it’s time to go” like a Dad taking his son home when you’re just in the middle of an argument with your mate🤣🤣
A brave man if you ask me.
Thats true 🤣🤣
And he was never seen again
A very very brave man! Hope he’s ok.
David Jones Badass level confirmed
Graeme Souness “You gotta think what is Paul Pogba doing right now?” 😂😂😒
That “time to go” in the end always gets me 🤣
I feel for Jimmy. He went from curiosity to amusement to fear!
😂
I'm impressed he followed the conversation
Lol
Jimmy was hilarious throughout 😂
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
Dave taking his life in his hands slapping Roy on the leg 😂
I was in disbelief
Once a Man United captain, always our captain ❤
3:27 Keane and Carragher getting more and more heated accompanied with Hasselbaink laughing in the middle is glorious
This is why we love Keane on sky sports. He'll argue with everyone. Makes the programme more passionate
And loss the argument every time
@@user-oh2sw9im2b not really just depends on your perspective
@@user-oh2sw9im2b go back to busting to anime girls
@@GDL88 and earning scps
What's the point of arguing if you're just doing it for the sake of forced pantomime theater though?
Just love how Hasselbaink is sitting there and enjoy his time.
my favourite player..always calm and enjoy histime
He’s sat there chilling like security in case it kicks off and he has to split them up 😆 😝
He sat there when Roy and Redknapp had a heated debate abou Spurs last time as well. I think it's his fault.. 😄
Jimmy's a top guy
Bring out the popcorn 😉😀
I’m a Liverpool fan but you just can’t hate Keane 😂
4:23 I miss the battles with these two legends
😂😂😂 this is gold
Shush BOLO JOEL
This is above gold. This is diamond!
Can I sign Roy Kean to narrate arguments for me?
Jamie carragher disagreeing with Keane is like a son finally stepping up to his father and saying "dad, capitalism has failed society, democratic socialism is how we create a fair society"
Carra just hates Ronaldo.
Finally! a HEATED DEBATE that was actually heated
Fifa ranking of india 😂😂😂😂
@@jack100millionsigningonly6 Champions league titles of Man city 🤣🤣🤣
@@liamjones6671 I'm not even Man U fans 🤣
@@liamjones6671 cough *Lyon* cough
ah here we go with the BS heated comments. Should be considered spam nowadays.
Neville is like : This is Manchester United!
Carragher's point: Because man united finished 2nd last season, signing Ronaldo would mean they would have challenged for the title this season, because they have a proper goal scorer.
I do agree with Carragher, if Man United improved from last season, with Ronaldo in the team, they would have won the league.
They were still far better with Ronaldo than they are now which goes to show, picking Rashford ahead of Ronaldo was a huge mistake.
It's a miracle neither of them swore 😂 and Jimmy's awkward grin throughout is priceless. Stuck between that.
Should get paid danger money
He was Keane's side kick.
They signed Ronaldo to sell jerseys..and anybody thinks any different are off there head..what a player that man was I his day but he's bet
@@seanmurphy3550 lass they get payed a fixed amount for that the jersey maker sells more 🤣🤣🤣🤡🙈
@@johndover3594
Stop writing nonsense.
Manchester United hired Ronaldo not to go to Manchester City.
Ronaldo still scores you 40 to 50 goals per season.
Players only sell jerseys are those who are already downhill like Eden Hazard.
Roy: “GOALS GOALS GOALS”
Cara: “I’m not criticising but…”
Jimmy: 😶
He nearly got his second line in there at the end
@@kurtsudheim825 he tried his best
The way carragher talks about Ronaldo like he isn’t better than most strikers currently in their prime. The other players can play around him because they don’t have enough desire to win
That little pat on keans leg at the end was a perfect end 😂
I’m an arsenal fan but I love watching pundits arguing in a positive way. What’s funny is that they’re both right in what they’re saying.
Jamie is wrong as usual bud, he just hates Ronaldo
@@rayu2794
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
@@rayu2794 how is he wrong? You don’t sign Ronaldo not to win the league because he is a ruthless winner and that’s the only reason he would of came to United because he believed they can challenge for the title.
How is Jammie right? Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg. You dont need a person like him to press he delivers when it matters and pump in the extra effort when it required. This Pressing mania is pathetic!! you dont need more than 8 players to defend a goal if those 8 players are good enough and to say need cr7 to press is absolute rubbish!!
@@4cricket24 "Why Man City the best pressing team didnt win UCL? for 6 to 7 years they are trying. But RM wins it 3 time and CR7 the main man with 15 goals avrg." Because the Champions League is a cup competition. Winning a cup competition involves far more luck than a league. City are doing things right. They'll win a CL eventually because of that.
Seeing Roy accepting the misery of United at the end was kind of sad. Even Jamie suprised by his answers.
No it wasn't it was amazing 🤣YNWA
@@dujon06 be quiet
@@dujon06 Honest to God, while club rivalry is great and you're of course gonna joke about United as a Liverpool fan, I feel sorry for them. Seeing such a rich club sink is sad as a football fan in general. Like Keane said, they need to impose their character and determination in the game. You don't know what you're gonna get with players like Shaw, Maguire, Fred, etc.
Its crazy to see, its finally happened
It is a shame
Here after United got knocked out of the FA Cup
I love how hasselbaink is just smiling while the debate is getting heated
Watching Hasselbainks laughter turn into concern was a gift in itself
😂
Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank *is* a gift himself
These scene will definitely be a meme
That slap on the leg “it’s time to go” like when bouncers do that to old guy that’s had to much to drink at the pub 😂😂
😂 too right my g haha
@@RizzardOfOz03 the slap on the knee time to go, is just the best isn't it
What's the difference
I'm screaming 🤣🤣🤣
Jamie’s definitely got a point after United finished 2nd most United fans expected them to challenge if not win the league after signing the players they have, they’ve been a joke since the start of the season and I feel sorry for Ronaldo, being made to look like it’s his fault that the team are performing poorly when he’s arguably their best player, yeah he wanted to win a trophy at United but they’re miles away from achieving that and he’ll probably be gone in the summer.
They sound like a couple of passionate supporters down the pub. Love it !
This is Football ⚽
The pat on the leg, “time to go” had me cracking up
tap tap tap
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This is such a tired conversation. Everytime united don't win we have to have a debate about the fact Ronaldo doesn't press
It’s true though the number 9 needs to lead the press. The reason United scored as well is because they pressed.
Yes he's scored some important goals for us but if he was fit I'd play Cavani instead.
Same things people talked about when he was at Juve. Now they are midtable
None of the team press. They pretend to press and give up after 5 seconds then just sit off and camp 11 behind the ball
On 25 minutes the possession stats were Chelsea 82% Man Utd 18%
That can't happen if you know how to press. Utds players are frauds
20th in the league for tackles and 19th for recoveries is an embarrassment
The longest time man utd had the ball in the 1st half was 21 seconds.
Chelsea had the ball for 3+ minutes on 7 different occasions
@@B3MadeIt thank god you're not our coach then
The leg tap at the end💀
That dude would have been fired the next day if it was a woman's leg...but that's neither here nor there 🚶🚶🚶
Jimmy laughing is the best part 😁👍
THIS IS WHY WE LOVE FOOTBALL. True genuine pundits with heart and not sounding like a robot puppeteered by the media
The swedish premier league studio is brilliant too. A calm studio with brilliant chemistry and so much subtanxe in their analyses. Don’t know if englishmen can watch it eith subtitles though.
@@swiix8500 I'm all for watching genuine football pundits whatever their first language. Will check it out, have a great day
great pundits
Exactly
Sky pundits were puppeteered by the media until Keane arrived
“ the game is about scoring goals” love it Roy😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keane was just contradicting himself 😂. He says Ronaldo hasn't pressed for last 5 years but wants him to press now... ronaldo was not brought in to win titles, he was signed for Fa cup 😂
Bringing up Salah forgetting that Salah presses hard
It's not just pressing. It's also making runs to create space for your teammates, dropping deeper to help in the build up to attacks.
We all know Ronaldo can still finish, but he's lost nearly all the other aspects of his game (which is understandable considering his age).
If he was as good a team player as some people claim he still is, how on earth have United gone from 2nd to 9th?
@@footballnerd277 Reason is, We Still Have Maguire Mactominay, Fred, Lindelof, Matic, and Shaw Playing Every Week.
It was deflating to hear Keane say they brought Ronaldo back to win the FA cup not the league....the decline of this club has been horrendous!
That, "Time to go", and thigh slap was comedy gold
Back to this classic video after the FA cup defeat anyone ?
"There was never a plan to re-sign him." That's it! Ronaldo was re-signed by circumstance, not based on a plan. It's not his fault that United are struggling, he's not responsible for any of it. However, if you take the risk of re-signing a 36 year old world class player, you've got to have a clear plan on how he'll immediately win you as many trophies as possible. Unfortunately, United's coaching staff don't have the slightest clue on how to integrate him properly on what they had already built, hence Ole got the sack!
Spot on. The team was built around a 10 which is why Bruno was able to hit the ground running, to change that without even a pre season to work on it caused all sorts of issues
Spot on.
@@Heatwave9000 I'm guessing you're like 12 then?
Beautifully said, nothing more to add tbh 🤌🏾
Totally agree with you. Ronaldo might not win the league but he'll help the team to rebuild momentum. Winning mentality which had lost after sometime.
Shows how sticky of a situation this is when everyone pretty much agrees with the both of them. Love how passionate both Roy and Carragher get. Also just Hasslebank probably the most chilled man out there just sitting there haha
He looks like his wife and mum are having an argument and taking either's side is going to mean either sleeping on the sofa for a week or not being invited over for Christmas.
This is so true, when klopp came in he thought about development so he left gerrard on the bench. Cara is completely right what’s the point of buying ronaldo and all these old players like varane if Man U are not going to be challenging the big trophies In the next 1-2 years. Instead they should be focusing on using players like Greenwood and other 19-26 years olds to actually start developing their starting 11, what’s the point of having ronaldo on the pitch if he’s gonna be gone after a year or two. That means after a year or two your gonna have to focus on replacing him 😂🤦♂️ instead use other players like sancho, greenwood and start developing ur starting 11 Now
Gerrard left before Klopp came to Liverpool.
@@ged1267 well same thing gerrard got left out a lot of the time back then at his later stages so we can actually start development for the future
and when Rangnick start working at united. imagine ronaldo doing the gegenpressing 🤣🤣
@@dr6124 bro that’s not the point, why are man united buying players like cavani, ronaldo and varane at their big ages when they will leave soon or under perform soon. Ronaldo and varane are already is under performing. So what the point is man united recruitment this terrible. They need to buy players “with great potential” at the ages around 20-26 so in the coming years they dominate trophies. Not players at around ages 30-32 because they’ll leave soon and soon enough your going to have to buy a replacement for ronaldo and that’s just a hassle
Completely agree with urate and I'm not being biased I'm not a Liverpool fan
Carragher is not qualified to comment about Ronaldo
This is why I love watching Sky Football Analysis. You get class arguments between Keane, Neville and Carragher and even Micah from time to time like this. Love to see it
@@jacejohnson7113Coverage too, there was a weekend a few years back when United played Liverpool in a meaningless league match, and City played Chelsea in a cup final. United and Liverpool got all the build up, along with the '3 commentator' treatment, and the CUP FINAL got the B team, Jamie Rednapp and someone else if I remember correctly.
Much better than dullard like alex scott stating the obvious
@@_Goldenear if that's your opinion then fair enough 👍
@@jamesdan6895 Thats probably because Utd V Liverpool is the biggest football fixture in the world watched globally by millions & millions of people.
@Sean I agree 🙄
"Why Carrick is trying to give him a high 5- I dont know". Lol dead.
Carrick playing with fire 🔥 lol
This dude is hatin Ronaldo so deep with his heart
Hasselbaink in the back loving it 🤣
The “it’s time to go “ bit was the icing on the cake 😂 rip Claude
Wait was that line from the presenter intentionally referencing Claude?
@@Liam.2000 I don’t think it was intentional at all 😂
RIP CLAUDE. His spirit lives on “ITS TIME TO GO!!”
DVD 📀
Who’s Claude?
@@YoogiNation the aftv goat
@@YoogiNation ah jee- rea- really?
R.I.P a true legend
4:23 the heated debate is hillarious especially 4:26 with roy keane saying to carragher "did you win Fa cup. Did you win FA cup. Did you win FA Cup" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dave's a brave man patting Roy's knee after all that😂
What made me laugh was when the presenter tapped on Keane’s knee at the end and said “time to go”.
Cherry on top
Just they do to me in the pubs....
He should be a bouncer for that lol
it's like that old man that gets carried away in a care home
Chef's kiss
Utd and Liverpool rivalry
Never finishes
Even after years of not playing
Loved it
It has nothing to do with that rivalry
Hhhahahaha 🤣
MU 0-5 liverpool...ronaldo played
Chelsea 1-1 MU...ronald bench...
@@adamyusuff9649 The difference MU with and without Ole
@miqdad oh please... they are the same coach
We have to give this one to Carra after Utd lost to Boro.
Love the fact the Jimmy just sits there like "maybe will I get something to eat after this" then trying to get a word in then just sits back again
I like that we keep it real. Perfectly acceptable discussion and the reason why i'm excited for the post analysis on sky. With Roy, it's always 100% commitment.
@@julianbanks1885 there are some truths in his argument. United are way off the mark achieving the consistency of the leading three, the remaining cup runs are the lowest hanging fruits for this season.
@@chosen___one But he said that United signed Ronaldo to win cups which is not true at all.
United finished second in the league last season and signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho, and are currently lurking in the 8th position.
United made these signings so they could cover up the gap between themselves and City and they have fallen.
@@julianbanks1885 but they spoiled it last season by losing to Villareal on PK.
Would love to hear Jose and Roy discuss United 😀
@@julianbanks1885 overrated season last year..of course got no 2 in the league but overall man united still struggling..3 years never past ucl group stage, no trophy, at least this season man u got chance to win ucl or cup
Classic Keane!
LOVE IT
Poor Roy couldn't stop messing up in this one. He's that stubborn uncle at the Christmas family dinner.
Says nothing interesting, but at least it's entertaining.
@@777SNYM and there is carragher who is big clown in circus doesn't know cr7s stats
Ronaldo has won United alot of games/points this season, despite us having a horrible season. Especially in the CL.
Nobody is asking chelsea why they signed a 36 year old Thiago silver.
"Keane, why must you argue and get angry?"
Keane: "That's my job."
They just need to put Keane and HEATED in the title and I'm watching yes.
If your having a bad day & your a football fan. Just watch this clip between Keane & Carragher and see if this doesn't make you laugh or put a smile on your face.
Dave tapping Roys leg at the end is the equivalent of poking a bear with a stick. Amazed he escaped with his life in tact.
🤣🤣🤣
😂 😂
Why? It's Roy Keane... more like a pussycat
Ha haaaaaa
I can see where both of them are coming from tbf. Keane is definitely right that Ronaldo should be starting against teams like Chelsea, you don’t bench someone like that in such an important game. At the same time though Jamie definitely has some good points too that Ronaldo’s been brought back so Man United can win the league, they came second last year and want first and you’re not gonna bring in players like Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho unless you want to win anything and everything that pops up with the league being the primary goal. Either way this is gold 😂
Well said
My thoughts exactly!
But United looked better and more energetic without Ronaldo.
💯💯
The fact is we have been here before when we had Zlatan. Weren't gonna win the league, zlatan scored goals but one out of Rashford/Martial was always benched. Now its Ronaldo scoring goals with one out of Sancho/Greenwood always benched.
That season with zlatan we won trophies like keane is saying could happen with Ronaldo this season but Carrager is saying that in the long term it didnt getus anywhere as we never really got close to winning the league and Rashford nor Martial can play as a 9 properly now. Same way Greenwood could end up not being a proper 9 as he never gets to play there. (Reminds me of Martial) 🤔🤔
ronaldo has helped to make the team dysfunctional though. the team needs to learn how to properly play without ronaldo. the 36 year old guy can’t be running for 90 minutes each game. i think it makes perfect sense
Jamie, Ronaldo has only scored 801 goals in his lifetime. 2 goals for United in their most recent game. Yeah, Ronaldo was a waste of a signing wasn’t he Jamie? 🤦🏻
His whole point was that last season they finished 2nd so the next step was to challenge for the league and that is why Sancho varane were bought. Ronaldo was bought so that they could win the league he's not an investment for the future. So challenging for the FA cup instead of The league is stupid the team last season was good enough to challenge for FA cup and Europa League
Wasn’t necessarily a waste of a signing but was never going to elevate United to title winners over night. If anything, he’s hampered the likes Sancho & Greenwood’s games time as he wants a starting berth every game.
Are United building a team around a 36 year old.
Either way, he’s class and probably fitter than most players, apart from the beast that is Milner
@@MichaelLFC____ I mean the team finished second cuz Chelsea had a fraud manager in the first half and Liverpool had fell off, when you say a teams finished second and they’re gonna challenge, yeh if that team is one point behind 1st they will, look what lpool did… but if the teams behind by double figures it’s almost as if united could’ve only finished second and nowhere else
@@MichaelLFC____ how are people blaming the shambolic midfield and defence of united on ronaldo? Make it make sense, even if he does press etc, he can’t control what Maguire does or Fred, and as for the likes of greenwood, that kid never seems to want to pass the ball and always just shoots from ridiculous places and loses the ball
@@hdvisonz1809 I’m really struggling to make sense of your responses, was I blaming Ronaldo? He can’t control what McFred or the leaky defence does, that’s true.
But also can’t rely on Ronaldo to win matches, that’s what it’s been like.
I stated that the signing of Ronaldo has not made any difference to them “challenging” for the title. But it seems a 36 yr old Ronaldo is the main man! Having a pop at goal makes you greedy? Greenwood is a striker but has had to play on the wing to accommodate Ronaldo. Your whole team loses the ball, blunders from de gea and Maguire on a daily basis.
And for finishing second, that just makes you the 1st loser!!!
Man this vid doesn't get old lol. Every time i watch it it's so funny
This vid will never get old 😂