Addicted to this game, streaming it almost everyday @ twitch.tv/kanonxo - The story continues as we hold #1 rank and push to take the first Castle on the KR server
Im assuming its easier to see whats going on during these big PvP fights while playing the game. It looks hard to mkae out what players are enemies as its just 1 big mass of players. I am watching on my phone though so maybe thats why im struggling? Really looking forward to playing the game on western release though.
tbh no, tab target games can rarely do large scale pvp well. Typically just zerg games where numbers rule, action combat games are where you can actually outskill your opponent. Should still be fun to play for a few weeks -> months.
Imagine dude thinking he is shotcalling why this is a literally Zerg game where u can smash ur head on the keyboard and win cuz of numbers No individual skills is involved cringe mobile game
He probably has a great rig but performance looks pretty good for how many people fighting. Problem is it’s just like gw2 a ball Zerg cluster fuck. It can be fun but can also get kind of boring just balling around.
Alliances are a bad idea. Crowfall also had alliances and didn't implemented the right way just like TnL. It should be a tool to help small guilds compete against big guilds but as of right now it's just zerging. If anything this gonna be one of the reason for TnL downfall
You commented this on a video that disproves what you claimed lol. They were outnumbered as a *majority* F2PLAY guild versus Koreans who can pay easily, have better ping so reaction times are much better, and *MORE* people zerging against them and still won. AS it stands, the system seems to be stable enough, but no one knows what will be added later down the line that can upset that balance. Chill with the doom and gloom, and atleast give the game longer than two weeks for more definitive examples to come out.
@@Tetzerx But one doesn't need that much time to see the repercussion on systems like this? And weird because on a more recent one they lost because, surprise surprise, they were outnumbered and zerged. It's a bad system no matter how much people try to defend it, an alliance cap on guild vs guild it's all it needs
@@mrfish229 Yeah, its almost like the place in which they fought in, a wide open desert, altered their ability to defend that point, whereas in *this* video, the defense of that point favored them, despite having smaller numbers. Again, you can see the potential flaws, but that doesnt mean those *potential* flaws will de facto manifest, nor that there wont be any shifts that will come down the line that may address them should they happen. It is literally a live service game, so again, wait for more than two weeks, and *see* what they have implemented, and how its working now before the doom and gloom. As it currently stands, the evidence isnt in your favor. As I said earlier, they are outnumbered, cant swipe, and have high ping generally, and yet *still* are the number one alliance in the with quite a bit of territory, versus people who *can* swipe, and also outnumber them with generally zero ping issues as well, and have access to the exact same alliance system you are heralding as a failure lol. Its silly.
@CestPasFaux-kt9zq Point to a *massively multiplayer online game* that has mass pvp that isnt some form of zerging? Also tell me, have you ever actually even played in any game that has mass pvp to begin with? Simply having more numbers isnt an automatic win which is laughably assumed everytime someone decrys "zerg" pvp. Hop on GW2 in WvW and youll consistently see that a small, focused group that understands their roles and classes, can utterly dominate sizeable zergs without much issue, and from the other games ive played with similar zerg warfare, this has generally panned out, so pray tell, what examples do you even have to show as "good" mass pvp?
Addicted to this game, streaming it almost everyday @ twitch.tv/kanonxo - The story continues as we hold #1 rank and push to take the first Castle on the KR server
This has one of the most fun experiences I had in a while. I'm a healer though so my dopamine are different but still LOTS OF FUN!
Throne & Liberty Is Actually REALLY Good
I am not a fan of PvP but watching this video makes Throne and Liberty look so fun.
This feels a lot like GW2 World vs World lol
range stomps on melee
its like any mass pvp game. ESO, GW2, DAOC, Lineage 2 ... all of them exactly like this with a shot caller controlling the ball.
@@xDarkjoy u forgot the best pvp game albion online
Only down side is tab targeting
Ohh man can't wait for this game on global, I wonder if you can build a tank with some self sustain
Actually u can, SnS ady have good self sustain, u can also mix it with a Wand have healing skill :)).
check littlefatty's stream, he can tank many mobs on open dungeon because of great self sustain.
@@Stunlock-e5x AHH that's what I like to hear, I'm more of a pve kind-of-guy
reminds me of the zerging we did back in golden day of Guild Wars 2. Cant wait to play this game :)
I hope they remove the horrible death debuff that you need to pay for... it basically removes the entire purpose of playing a melee character
Such an epic fight
It looks amazing
Probably one of the most intense and sweaty fights we had😂❤. Even did it without our stronk NA bois
@CestPasFaux-kt9zq this is how all wide scalepvp turns out even in irl war back in the old days its just a zerg fest
love the content man! will support!
@kanonXO are you going to playing on the western version too?
What server is this ?
Mass PvP. Shot calling. Love it.
Reminds me a lot of World vs World in gw2
exactly what I was thinking
Im assuming its easier to see whats going on during these big PvP fights while playing the game.
It looks hard to mkae out what players are enemies as its just 1 big mass of players. I am watching on my phone though so maybe thats why im struggling?
Really looking forward to playing the game on western release though.
tbh no, tab target games can rarely do large scale pvp well. Typically just zerg games where numbers rule, action combat games are where you can actually outskill your opponent. Should still be fun to play for a few weeks -> months.
@@perky7957 although I agree with your point I did enjoy Dark age of Camelot
this is awesome, is pvp gear different from pve gear? or main gear works on both?
that was epic. Kanon you was on fire
this game brings back alot of dark age of camelot memories, can't wait for it to be released globally
That shot caller be annoying af I swear
How is the ranged vs melee situation?
Lineage ][ vibes all over!!!
No it doesnt. It is nothing like L2.
what server are u?
Lineage 2 mechanic, target healers burn healers xD
Can I join your guild?
I'm really excited
Bro I love this game. I am playing the korean version and its freaking amazing. I am in love with the world and the gameplay.
how did you get in
Is there any small scale pvp ?
Nope
Great video, but I wish there was some setup introduction to contextualize what's going on.
how do u play this game?
@kanonXO how can i play right now? i live in texas.
Wonder what u thing about GS/Sw with GS main and play as a dps, can build like bruiser I think.
game still korean only ?
Holy shit that pvp leader is annoying to listen to.
is that sywo lol
I like the videos way more with shotcalling
HP need more tanks!!!
Does Sword-n-Board have any purpose in PvP?
They are tanks
And as tanks, what is their purpose in PvP?
@@AxisSabian1 staying on points/being a frontline
@@Psikick4What is their toolkit (skills often used) for PvP. Do they mainly CC, protect party members, etc...?
looks fun i guess. no idea what the f is going on
This game is so strange without aoe
just like NW, fighting WHAT is another level shit.
Imagine dude thinking he is shotcalling why this is a literally Zerg game where u can smash ur head on the keyboard and win cuz of numbers No individual skills is involved cringe mobile game
Then what would you do on vs 2 other zerg with same number and roughly power. You need strategy
The guy doing all the talking needs to get off the drugs. Get someone calm and focused in there.
He probably has a great rig but performance looks pretty good for how many people fighting. Problem is it’s just like gw2 a ball Zerg cluster fuck. It can be fun but can also get kind of boring just balling around.
How do you play on KR server ? Dont you have bad ping?
Kanon is living in Korea for now, but other NA players say 200 ping and that is does not feel that bad.
If i was in this guild i would leave after one day. The shotcaller saying literally everything twice is so cringe. Omg
Alliances are a bad idea. Crowfall also had alliances and didn't implemented the right way just like TnL. It should be a tool to help small guilds compete against big guilds but as of right now it's just zerging. If anything this gonna be one of the reason for TnL downfall
You commented this on a video that disproves what you claimed lol. They were outnumbered as a *majority* F2PLAY guild versus Koreans who can pay easily, have better ping so reaction times are much better, and *MORE* people zerging against them and still won. AS it stands, the system seems to be stable enough, but no one knows what will be added later down the line that can upset that balance. Chill with the doom and gloom, and atleast give the game longer than two weeks for more definitive examples to come out.
@@Tetzerxtotal nonsence. They are not f2p and they are the biggest zerg. This game is a zerg mess.
@@Tetzerx But one doesn't need that much time to see the repercussion on systems like this? And weird because on a more recent one they lost because, surprise surprise, they were outnumbered and zerged. It's a bad system no matter how much people try to defend it, an alliance cap on guild vs guild it's all it needs
@@mrfish229 Yeah, its almost like the place in which they fought in, a wide open desert, altered their ability to defend that point, whereas in *this* video, the defense of that point favored them, despite having smaller numbers. Again, you can see the potential flaws, but that doesnt mean those *potential* flaws will de facto manifest, nor that there wont be any shifts that will come down the line that may address them should they happen. It is literally a live service game, so again, wait for more than two weeks, and *see* what they have implemented, and how its working now before the doom and gloom. As it currently stands, the evidence isnt in your favor. As I said earlier, they are outnumbered, cant swipe, and have high ping generally, and yet *still* are the number one alliance in the with quite a bit of territory, versus people who *can* swipe, and also outnumber them with generally zero ping issues as well, and have access to the exact same alliance system you are heralding as a failure lol.
Its silly.
@CestPasFaux-kt9zq Point to a *massively multiplayer online game* that has mass pvp that isnt some form of zerging? Also tell me, have you ever actually even played in any game that has mass pvp to begin with? Simply having more numbers isnt an automatic win which is laughably assumed everytime someone decrys "zerg" pvp. Hop on GW2 in WvW and youll consistently see that a small, focused group that understands their roles and classes, can utterly dominate sizeable zergs without much issue, and from the other games ive played with similar zerg warfare, this has generally panned out, so pray tell, what examples do you even have to show as "good" mass pvp?
Pvp aşığı olarak bok gibi gözüküyor. Herşey cok karmaşık. Düşmanların hud 'ları bıle gozukmuyor
whoever enjoys this
I bet you play hack'n'slash games and smash your forehead repetitively against the keyboard, as far as your gameplay depth goes
this leader talk to much ...
zerg vs zerg is so boring, small-mid scale pvp still better
boring
This game looks horrible jesus
probably the most annoying shot caller i've ever heard, legit.
true man
ngl clusterfck pvp isnt something i care about in this game , i just hope everything else can keep me in the game...
( when it comes out ) 🥲