How to unbog a Road train
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2015
- A fuel transport Road train stranded on the soft edge of an outback road in the Northern territory, Australia. With the help of talented Bush mechanics from a nearby community the Road train was soon on its way to deliver its load of much needed fuel to isolated communities in the Desert.
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those boys know how to do it thank god for the boys from the communities good on you boys go safe and keep on rolling trucks make this country what it it is god bless the humble trucki his or her road train
Well said
Always good to have a front end loader available.
i am surprised also not to get one from a nearby station
IOR Petroleum's subcontractor Johnnie Bundy's very nice Kenworth T909 AB triple road train. I agree with the earlier comments, it's great you captured this rescue action for us. Driving on these roads are a tough job for man and machine, I don't envy the truckies at all. One bad move and they're stuck like this unlucky driver. Thanks a lot for this great video, I really enjoyed it. :)
Zsolti0NYM Thank you for your comments, yes I also felt sorry for the driver, lucky he was close to a community who were able to help. The locals are very clever to recover the truck, they decided to pull the truck backwards out of the bog and then tow the unit onto firmer road surface. The roads out that way are not very good, in need of some maintenance to sort out the corrugations and sand drifts. Cheers!
Glad you didn't bag the driver 🤝 as said one bad move and AHHHHHH BUGGA
these guys are the proper truck drivers.
The through shaft is called a through shaft for the reason, it goes through to the rear drive. The right rear is your pulling wheel if Diff Lock is NOT engaged. Now, when you put DIFF LOCK in, it locks the front drive in. Then you can get into , front, rear, or both side lock. I'm not asking, i'm telling you. Been there done that.
Yeah I just asked the same thing why wasn't it fully locked up???
Superb video. Great that you caught this on camera. Not everyone would get to see something like this.
BloodySeaGulls Ross Too right! Right place, right time. Half hour either way would have meant missing all the action!
I gotta give a lot of credit to the Aussies. Trucking in the USA is like being in grade school compared to this.
yea because logging roads dont get washed out from rain or snow melting and are cake! You obviously have no clue what your talking about...and Alaska is sorta part of the US so in 5 seconds I thought of two trucking applications that are pretty extreme just like the outback and I am sure there are many others..
What a brilliant piece of video footage, showed us all the action in superb detail and clarity of colour. I really did enjoy watching that, kinda feeling for the driver myself. Those roads look so bumpy looking, and quite red in colour too! must be a nightmare to drive along for long distance drivers. Defo thumbs up on this beauty. :-) 5*****
Bevoin1970 It is certainly a bit different driving than most Truckies would do, yes the road is very bumpy and lots of red sand drifts. I was on the way home after a 500KM trip on rough roads so that truck had a tough trip in front of him, hopefully he got through without any more mishaps! Some of those roads are not used frequently so sometimes you wont see another car travelling during a days drive, pretty hard to imagine I bet! Thank you for your comments and I am glad you enjoyed the footage!
Bevoin1970 in the us there is a 3 strike rule for crashing is there a similar one in auzzie for getting stuck also how do they reverse that
I Aus if you get stuck it's a slab. ;)
Very exciting to watch!
Hey. Have a tv show where American truckers do the outback. Get stuck in mud & all sorts of crapp. Rainfall and torrential rain. You guys & gals. Awesome. Reckon a Aussie will win.
ONLY IN AUSTRALIA ! LOVE IT GREAT JOB ! U DRIVERS HAVE A PAIR ! 3 to 4 TRAILERS !THANK U >DRIVER FROM THE U S !
tractor, bucket should be right up, love the way Aussies help in the bush
why didn't they split it up and take out trailers seperate
Vidéo très bien prise. Bravo. Merci
I can see why it was so important for him to be so far onto the shoulder. Traffic is insane through there.
Idiot
@@trr4488 no; humor!!
HaHa, get off the phone
Next time try getting a load of dirt in the bucket to give you a bit more traction.
If I was running "off road" onto dirt roads etc, I would definitely have a truck with lockers that truck doesn't appear to be using them or not have them at all
Exactly- snow and ice and you would all die out there. Love from Canada.
It would have diff and cross locks meaning everything drives together. Yes it has it on the truck and I doubt he had them all fully engaged.
Drop the back two trailers....get the prime mover & first trailer out. Then drag the drawbar of the second trailer around so it can be reconnected with the first trailer and the prime mover on level ground.... even if ya only yank out the back trailers one at a time....saves destroying a driveline when you don't need to.....
Yep, that’s how I’d tackle it. Would potentially save a lot of workshop time,and money in parts and labour. But great effort from all involved here,tough bastards all of them,no snowflakes out here!🤣💪
Wouw! Cool video of e road train...
Fantastic footage.
RODALCO2007 Thank you!
what might have made it a bit more fantastic if camerman had thought to show the most important detail....how deep were the left hand side wheels ...he never thought to show us that apparently...also why couldnt he disconnect trailers and pull one out at a time instead caning shit out of primemover
right, this video gives no sense
Presuming we are watching the extrication of loaded trailers (tankers) there is a pretty good chance that uncoupling the trailers would result in either the trailer sinking at an angle or falling on its side. In either event recoupling the trailers would be a difficult task especially since the dolly would also have to be uncoupled and recoupled - at least at the extrication phase since traction to the primeover (tractor) would be zip zero zilch with it still under the trailer.
I think these guys have a pretty good idea of what to do and how to do it with the least effort, start at the bottom and work you way to the top and hopefully the rig will be out about halfway along the journey.
BPW-trailer axles from Germany in the Outback ... good thing. Nice KW truck ! But one question: Aren´t there Dollys or trailers which are driven by own motor ? This would have helped a lot in such a situation. How much is the max. weight of a road train ? Greetings from south Germany
Nerves of steel. A quite tricky situation actually, And that chain -- one tuff mutha.
Personally I would have recoupled at an angle -- to give the drive a good chance of getting back onto the hard stuff.
THREE CHEERS FOR JOHN DEERE !!
Judging from the lack of flex in the tires it looks as if he is empty at the time vid was made.
they did before the video started
nice roads you got there
And this is why you don't drive heavy vehicles on the edges of dirt roads
I used to live in the table drains to get a better ride
@@bobtalbot2401 small roads are not an excuse , it the driver is not good, try an icy narrow road lol
Reverse is always a better option...after all he dug in a trench up front but had a ramp to back out of, plus reverse is a low heavy cog
very good
To clear up some technical views here about interlock power divider. when interlock is not engaged your driveshaft drives through front differential and supplies power to both rears what Rockwell calls 70 % front 30% rear then when you activate the Interlock switch you get both rear ends getting 100% available driveshaft power to both differenials. but if they are open or what we call conventional differentials one wheel on one diff will spin and one on the other will spin .now if you have locking differentials then basically all tires and axles are locked together .
Yep -- but still does not answer the question -- why were they not engaged ?????
This truck has only inter axle lock, I dont think has proper diff lock,
I see the problem, he's driving on the wrong damn side of the road... I'm kidding. Nice video, thanks for sharing. Lots of truck recovery experts in this comments section.
Everythingisgoingtobealright The real probably that someone stole the road surface. If they be kind enough to return it, no one will be charged for the prank.
that's what I always say : wrong side = English = outdated.
Hasn’t even locked the doubles in ..... numpty🏴👍🏻
when the first drive axle starts to dig a hole and pile up dirt infront of the third axle wheelsets .. back up the ramp of the hole and lock the brakes.. get something and push the dirt piles up in front of the third axle wheel set.. DO NOT reach in there.. use a branch or something to push it out if you are not forward thinking enough to have a modified Hoe .with the top corners cut at angles to fit between the tires better.. now you have no mound of dirt the third wheel set has to lift and go over.. the third wheelset will now roll down into the hole and give you a few more inches of forward acceleration to power forward and pull out of the holes dug by the drive tires.
i totally agree that the truck was spec'd wrong. a Hoe is a garden tool.. usually really cheap.. a 2 meter pole handle and a blade bent down 90 degrees.. could snap right into broom clips mounted to the inside of the fairing ..
makes me wonder also what it would take to smooth off the washboard road surface.. taking the top of the washboard.
my K whopper has differential lock plus the interlock probley be a good idea to get diff locks installed best option yet in deep snow and loose sandy soil or dirt where just interlock won't be enough .
I assumed every truck in outback would have dbl lockers
Specially a kenworth
Don't they have diff locks, then? would've thought that would be standard on a road train prime mover.
Also, once it was rolling, I'd have been getting it off the shoulder ASAP. Also, less wheel spinning and pulling it back sooner would've paid off. Not that I've ever had anything that big stuck - but spinning wheels when the thing is not moving makes things worse whatever you're dealing with.
Albert6541 in the first place don't drive an American trucks in these conditions ... they have so less power and poor design that it will definitely get stuck.... just get a scania 6x4 and 730hp and it will never get stuck cuz it has diff lock and the driver has more control over the vehicle.......
Kuntal Ghosh these kenworths are Aussie made and have diff locks and all that he just got too far off the road
You won't see euro trucks on remote dirt roads here,only Kenworth, Macks and western Star.
That loader had the power, but not the traction. I was surprised it got it out at all.
How'd it work back in the day when they could pull 5 all the time, in that same bulldust between Alice and Darwin?
Drivers were better.
No locked power divider or cross locks? Also as others have said, really lucky not to roll it.
at this angle and speed it is very hard to roll it but at higher speeds or in mud you got right (btw srry for my english)
@@krystianbabinski980 Good English!!! :)
must split the tankers no choice mate.
I really thought the off-highway trucks in aus would have locking diffs. The off-highway trucks in NZ typically have locking diffs, and often are tri-drive too.
They often also normally have a central tyre Inflation system. So in a situation like this, if locking the diffs didn't get the truck moving, deflating the tyres a bit to increase ground surface area wound be the next step.
like a mouse trying to pull an elephant =D
have a Good Time
nice save
6 rod n diff locks probably be the go out there ,I've been caught myself out in the table drain lookin for a break from the corrugations.
ghosties roadtrain adventures I was heading back to town after a 500KM drive on dirt, lots of bad corrugations and red sand drifts too, I hope the truck made it through ok. It was lucky he was close to a community who were able to get him out, some clever team work saved the day!
My Kenny W900 has an inter-axle lock. Would have seriously helped here.
Not full differential lock???? Only lock between axless?
Interaxle lock only not diff lock
Well the MEN did it.....they came up with a plan and it worked!😊
Yep.
Why the Hell when he was being hooked up to Tow did the Backhoe and the Truck not turn towards the center of the road where the surface is more harder and packed deep underneath. The other thing wrong is the Kenworth did not have axle locks or driver did not engage them. My old 2002 379 Long nose Peterbilt with 46,000 lb Diffs equipped with axle locks and power divider and diff Lock so that all 4 wheels have to spin before stuck, along with 18 speed Fuller Spicer Trans, 2400 ft. lb. Clutch and Cummins Signature ISX 600 HP would have pulled that Train. Bottom line Truck was not equipped right. In British Columbia we legally run Tri drive Truclks with axle locks and locking diffs so that all six wheels have to spin before your stuck. That is what you need to pull those Trains.
hard to tell if interlock was working one wheel on front axle was could of been rear axle opposite side could have been spinning or driving especially when you have to open differentials.
Correct, other side we havent seen it was spinning and agree open diff,
why did the driver not lock in the differential lock and have both axles/drivers working? The KW has the lock set up.
Probably has cross locks but not an interaxle lock up. Some units have full lock up some don't. On corrugations like that road you would quickly destroy your diffs if you used them for any distance.
Other way around. Virtually all trucks have interaxle lock but cross locks is an option and many don't have them.
Exactly - cross locks are only for off road vehicles here in OZ -- though of course your fully imported Scandinavian and European stuff usually have them as standard.
slimchancetoo n
Get a real machine not a lawn mower lmao SMFH
Should have rang me up, I would have come and pulled you out with my Landcruiser no worries 😉
whew I was beginning to think they needed a bigger backhoe or a smaller road train
Can you imagine what stopping that mess would be like!!!
They are actually not bad to stop as all wheels are braking.
keep on trucking
good effort to pull that out with that small loader
SOme earth / weight in the loader would help a lot
@@hearttraveler1548 For sure, the bucket should of been full to help with traction.
I've pulled out many loaded semi-trailers stuck in ditches & bogged to the axels in my time on the road & much to my surprise not many know
what a diff-lock or a power divider is. I had to tell & show them how to use it correctly. HOW DID THEY
GET THEIR TICKET TO DRIVE ONE ?
I know some of these guys suck, they should try ice road trucking in northern Canada, they won't move a foot
Why no dual axle drives? A bit lightly done for the Tanami?
Technik Meister
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very supprised that backhoe could tow that train.
Max could pull him out with his interceptor!
Could that trying is whatmade him MAD
hmmmm I have pulled that set of trailers 003 :) and yes it is empty here
Hi sir I'm in SA but i like to how u guys hookup all that trailers, please give me advice.
You need more axles drivers you got one on a dirt road .
I thought some road trains had trailers with an additional engine. It doesn't appear as if this truck is 6x4, rather 6x2. What about reducing the tyre pressures to assist?
Mining road trains yes not road trains that drive on public roads
TY Rusty. I was surprised to see that the truck had one a single powered drive axle instead of the usual two. Considering the condition of the roads and the weight it is pulling,a single drive axle seems inadequate. Is that a weight saving device?
I'm sure both axles are drivers. They have what is similar to a differential between the axles. So when in soft ground it makes only one tire spin, much like in a car that doesn't have limited slip. Most trucks have an air switch to lock the axles together but it seems that this driver either wasn't able to engage the lock or wasn't smart enough to engage it.
+Roger Gordon While I was there, both rear wheel sets were spinning at times, due to the differential drive, the left hand rears spun more as they were less loaded due to the loose road surface. Maybe a diff lock might have been of some use in this situation?
@@rustymotor he definitely should have engaged diff and cross locks. No matter what weight is or isn't there they would have pulled out of that on its own done correctly. And every single Kenworth has it no weight savings in that...
if he turned the cab unit at angle it would be less initial mass to pull and then once moving the momentum would pull the rest out...
he tried that before the machines arrived, if you noticed the angle the truck was on in at the start of video but if he had diff locks and power divider lock he would of not got stuck
mrfordfairmont it's the steer tires that pull him in when too close to the edge..having full lockers without assistance probably would have made it worse.
nah mate....the more the angle the harder to pull.......
pull it out with another vechile. wow how did you guys come up with this strategy. i thought they were gunna like yell at it. i never imagined that they would tow it out.
aaaand he's stuck again.2 km further down.
No 2000hp nitro boosted War Rig?
Air bags without full power dividers and locking diffs will screw you with a regular load, not to mention a goddam road train. Another helpful hint- when it ain’t moving, try something different, spinning the tires doesn’t ever make it better.
Spinning tha tires warms them up and gives better traction
Are the trucks that pull the trains specially built or modified? Or are they just plain tractor trucks? If they are different in what ways are they different?
They are built for the conditions the ones that are not fall to pieces on the dirt roads if the dirt roads are full or corrocations and bull dust
why didn't they use the bucket. put it in the ground and use it to push
anyone that does offroading knows its better to pull them out forwards if possible rather than psuh them out backwards. alkso pushing on the back with that many articulations is begging for disaster
@@Rocker-1234 no while pulling with the tractor put the bucket down and use it to help push the tractor. i live in the mud and run a backhoe every day.
dont use Diff-locks ? i'm wondering, to drive in this conditions without !
lock diff '''''' one.... so used to dum thinking. i worked in that scrub for so long. why not de hich first trailer. or pull back from the start. wet cold season going from the jackets
You not got full lockers on that just a power divider?
I think in Australia only interaxle locks use I dont think they have dif lock to
@@jaswindergalib 6x4 and no dif lock, whats the point of 6x4 then?
Diff locks and cross locks on those
They have cross locks and diff locks. It's mostly older prime movers that only have cross locks and no diff locks
@@jaswindergalib no. A lot of highway trucks only have inter axle, but most if not all trucks in logging, farming, and this outback transport have full diff locks. I don't really understand why this one didn't, unless the front diff was a locker and the rear was standard.
Only 1 driven axle on the tractor ?
Where the tractor in this video?
Would it be better pulling it all out sideways?
Diff locks?
We have cross locks most have cross locks and diff locks but all have at least cross locks locks one when on each side
On each axle
Maka itulah aussie ini cukup cantik semua ada..gurun pasir gunung ganang...pantai cantik serta banyak lagi yang brooKU..
What did they do to solve it? The truck was stuck and suddenly it can drive again. It seems the best part of the whole thing is left out of the video.
Nothing like driving 500 miles on a washboard road.
i can't figure why he pulled it up the shoulder instead of into the road?
After being set free, why not drive in the center. Plenty of room?
They would have used flat wooden logs on the rear wheels for grip.
No Dif lock?
these machines are fucking awesome.
Why no diff lock on both drive axles? Obviously it had diff lock on the 1st drive but it’s ridiculous to not have it on both
Why does it look like he didn't have full cross locks on?
Front axle spinning rear axle just sitting there? Usually when full diff and cross locks in everything drives.. did he forget?
Soft patches sure can be a pain
pow0006 That road needed some work to fix it up, bad corrugations and soft road shoulders can spell disaster unfortunantly.
The first thing i thought was put the diff lock on!
I used to drive an S2 KW put the diff lock on & it made all 4 drive wheels drive
I am wondering where that backhoe come from way out in the outback
+roy hoco A nearby community the description says. Though i can imagine that 'nearby' means something like 20km over there :D I love the sun and the heat and the desertedness over there! Much better than the 10 months of rain per year of the Netherlands!
+Richard van Pukkem 10 months of rain ? could I interest you in a used boat.
He waits in the bush for such a thing to come along.
Would've been a long wait lol
they for in the sleeper cabins
Que grande el tractor como tira ¡¡¡
wouldnt it have been possible to unhook all trailers one by one and pull them out of the soft edge by the truck itself?
No! Would it be possible for you to watch it? 4:30 trying to disengage trailer with vehicle, not working. Anymore bright ideas?
Unhook the trailers and pull em out 1 at a time?
My thoughts too 😂
Have to be on a level ground to do so
1 axle no diff lock for road train on muddy road or sandy road i think it makes many trouble
WHY would you have lazy axle???? In those conditions?
Probably because a 3rd drive axle costs an arm and a leg and the company he's driving for don't wanna pay that sorta dosh to have a bogey drive truck
Both are drive axles, but the power divider is an interaxle x-lock meaning the opposite wheel on the the rear drive would've been spinning too. You can spec full lockers on both drives at time of manufacture but they've got a bad habit of overheating or blowing up if used excessively in conditions where the drive line can bind up i.e. full traction on all wheels.
I'm just asking but couldn't he have unhook the trailers and pull them out one by one just asking
why he don't drive more in the centre????
Centre can be chopped up, and looks pretty wild.
AIR CTI would/should be mandatory fitting on jobs like this. This truck and trailer tyres were all over inflated by heaps. Dropping the tyre pressures is normal practice on these type jobs. Just ask Direct Haul or any other AIR CTI users.
Is it nornal for them to have the 5th wheel slide up so far? I'd imagine that's real heavy on the steers.
IOR cart 2AB quads a lot so there's a good chance its like that to stay within length as a quad, you'll notice the drawbar on the dolly is really short as well for the same reason
@@paki20 wrong, he'd be 16.5 or 17 ton on the drive and 6 or 6.5 on the steer. When you've gotta set up for length limits you do it with the trailers and dollies.
The turntable is exactly where it needs to be.
@@boxhead7180 yes the weights would be fine and the turn table appears normal but if you weren't from Australia which old mate doesn't seem to be, it might seem odd to have a tank so close to the cab
why is only one wheel spinning?
Because of the way a differential works to provide power to the driving wheels.
he suppose to use his front bucket to grab that chain and then use hydraulics + driving = more power
OHHHH How good and strong is J Deere.....Litle machine but......good one !!!!!