yes i appreciated that too, completely agree re the fully swivelling mask instead of the cameras and there needs to be a eye lens cover 100%, they will sell like hotcakes on temu haha. I think the resolution of the goggles is way better though.
After watching 10 videos about DJI Neo and Avata, I thought I was the only one thinking that those flipping stuff are totally useless. Thanks for that more realistic, real life, and fun review. 😄👍
First time that I feel a DJI REVIEW deserves my compliment! This is a frank honest assessment without the too common claptrap. Please keep up making great videos, thank you.
Honestly, I'm a fan of the easy acro mode. It's not just a gimmick for sales. For us FPV beginners, pulling off cool aerial tricks isn't a walk in the park, and this mode helps without making things too complicated. And can't deny it, this will indeed spice up my flying experience.
I totally believe is a cool experience! And it's true that doing it in manual takes skill, and it's better to have a easy mode rather than not of course! I say useless regarding to video recording purposes, as you will have to learn real manual to integrate acro smoothly into videos And still I believe that they could integrate it into the classic radio and teach people gradually how to do acro, so one can have more confidence and learn something useful, ability that translates to any other drone
its more or less a gimmick as its the drone pulling off the move not you, and its not really graceful enough to use for video purposes either. Its too quick but definitely fun to experience for someone who can't yet do flips in manual
@@Rimzler I somewhat agree the 2 easy acro modes are just gimmicks, but I don't agree with the RC motion 3 being useless. I have only shot 1 video with mine so far, but found it very useful, very smooth, and the learning curve was minutes. I actually loved flying with it. Here is my first vid from the Avata 2 w/RC Motion 3 - you can skip ahead to around 2:14 to get the Sport Mode footage with the RC Motion 3 controller. ua-cam.com/video/-joYQvb4r5o/v-deo.html
Hi Andrea, Avata 2 has C1 class and 19 m/s velocity limitation. 19:31 Did you use FCC mod to achieve high speed or it was just a wind? You mentioned less power - looks like DJI limited speed by the power output and outside EU should be much better.
Thank you. I've been waiting for an honest review instead of the mainstream UA-camrs who only speak about the benefits without including any nuance or downsides. I trusted them last time when I bought the Avata 1, and paid the price. I appreciate your honesty and helpful suggestions. 🙏
Appreciate the honest opinion on the drone! now I know more about what to expect (especially that control stick) and definitely helps in deciding to buy that FPV controller
I am so impressed when it comes to steep diving with the Avata 2 over the Avata 1 it flies down so much more smoothly and a lot better. The Avata 1 will struggle shack and generally freak out when you do the same. They actually made it better in Normal and Sports Mode to use the motion lotion controller over the Controller 2 & 3.
Lots of comments praising your honest opinion. And yes I have no doubts that this is your honest opinion. But for everyone to say that all the other reviewers are DJI shills, reading from a script is disingenuous, and outright false. Rimzler doesn't like the motion controller, and even goes as far as calling the Avata II a toy. This is honestly ridiculous. The Avata II caters for every level of pilot, from beginner to professional. And the motion controller is an amazing piece of technology. With enough use and experience is a superb compliment to an RC controller. There are literally 100's of videos and reviews stating just how good the Avata II and motion controller is, and yet this is the only honest review? As I said, ridiculous.
The first wave of videos coming out when a product releases are filtered by DJI, it's just product overviews with no personal opinions, so it appears over hyped Dji makes amazing prosumer drones but when it comes to FPV they treat it like a toy for the masses first and as a tool for videomaking second, that is shown by not including the regular controller in any bundle and forcing people to only use the motion controller with other drones like the Mavic, software locking the use with the regular controller The motion controller is fine and fun by itself, but absolutely a worse input device compared to the regular controller, which is universally adopted as a standard, and both people coming from other drones, and people starting out, are better using that, since it has a slightly more steep learning curve yes, but allows for finer control and manual flight Dji knows this and has to force people to buy the motion controller, otherwise it would not sell on its own, and that's the most infuriating thing Absolutely can be a fun way of flying and a way for people with impairments to enjoy it, but it's that, a toy/experience, with the regular controller it's still that but also a tool for prosumers, I'm not saying the motion controller shouldn't exist, but it should be a complement not the main focus I like the avata 2 and use it for work often, it's a very versatile platform, but man I wish it was better, starting by fixing the horrible washouts happening randomly when flying manual
Also learning FPV with the motion controller is useless, the avata is easy enough with the regular controller, and that ability can grow and translate to other drones and make you progress, instead you can become proficient with the motion controller and it ends there, pick up another real FPV drone and you start from 0, maybe even worse because you have the wrong muscle memory
I like that you name things like you see them: The "motion ontroller" a "marketing gimmik" and that you call the automatic roll function "useless". And I loved to hear you say "I am scared of drone who fly automatically". It's the best summing up of all these gimmiks. Great video!!
I just got the Avata 2 last week, it's my first real drone other than basically a toy drone I bought on Temu for like $25. I'm loving my experience with the Avata 2. To me the motion controller makes flying very intuitive since it basically replicates an add-on flight stick for a lot of consoles like PS5 or Xbox. While I intend to eventually buy the separate flight controller, I'm in no hurry to get it. The Avata 2 is very easy for a complete beginner to use and then as your skills increase you can eventually get the separate sticks flight controller and use the manual flight mode. This drone might not be the right one for everybody but it was the exact right one for me since I am having so much fun with it! Just my 2 cents.
@@mikepatton8691 It's great to hear that you have big fun with your new Avata 2! Thats what it all is about! I guess you plan is very well: to learn to fly this drone intuitive and with time step up! Every pilot has different needs and expectations and it's great that you found your way and have fun!
I literally love your review. This was the most honest review i saw till now among all other reviewers. Very pro level review with conplete honesty. Pls keep making such videos . Love from Bharat 🙏🇮🇳
Thank you so much! I like the drone but many choices by DJI have been not the best and gotta report it! Especially because this is my travel drone and have to deal with the bad gear
I understand the experienced pilot appreciates this review. As a total noob, i couldn't disagree more. With 0% experience i could fly this drone so easily its an amazing drone for me. just 10 minutes practice and i was flying like a pro. Some sort. AND it was because of the easy controller. Just my 2 cents, tx for your review though
Avata2 or Cinebot25 or DarkStar20 I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment. 1. Do u think I should get the avata2 or cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner? 2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced. Thanks in advance!
Well I suggest waiting, as all the drones that have o3 now, will get o4 in the near future probably, so having a small o4 one will be incredible! AVATA 2 is very versatile, I suggest waiting for it as the old gear may become compatible with it!
Good honest review. Personally, I think the new goggles are way more comfortable than all my other "traditional FPV goggles. It probably has a lot to do with face/head shape, but I feel like they're way more "locked on" than traditional gogs, and the FOV is at the limit of what I can get in frame. You do know you can tighten them with the dial on the back, right? Other than that, I think you nailed it.
They are comfier than stock goggle 2, but not aftermarket for me, yeah I tightened to the point of hurting, but it has a smaller contact area compared to the old anyway, and in some situations they will shake, but that's a niche use! Like now I am shooting a car parade and will need to fly from inside another car, that's a concern! For sure I like innovation, but I see too many obvious improvements, like make them swivel all the way up, and add a couple mounting points for aftermarket parts They should give people the choice to personalize their fit, and maybe they can even sell all the different inexpensive attachments and sell for a premium, I wouldn't criticize that much then
So many fpv pilots really liked the motion controller... or said so atleast. Refreshing to hear its gimmicky maybe not for beginners but for practiced pilots I dont think theyll seriously use the motion controller..
I have tried all the motion controllers so far and it's the same as the old ones basically, it's fun to use for a while but it's not better in any way compared to the real radio and you eventually grow tired of it It maybe made sense with the original DJI FPV, that could fly super fast up in the air and not worry about obstacles so much, but for a cinewhoop that flies low it's not precise enough Even for beginners the real radio is better imho, better control, better safety, they are going to be able to fly much closer to obstacles and through them, also it has a big progression to be made, up to flying acro, and the ability translates to and from any other drone on
Actually when you do dives now in the N&S Modes the dives are much cleaner than using these modes with the Controller 3. You can get different views and angles with the combo of motion controller and head tracking. Where the controller 3 just cannot at this time. Controller 3 truly shines because of manual mode which is the real reason we all buy the Controller 2 and 3 to begin with. The Avata 1 absolutely sucked in these deep dive shots because it would freak out and shack and bounce around. The Avata 2 doesn’t have these issues. Going between the Motion Controller and Controller 3 gives us a nice advantage for some sweet shots or just kick back fly and have fun 🤩
Yeah good point, at least in descending the motion controller makes stuff easier, it takes quite a bit of experience to do the same on the regular remote! True also that the old avatar had more shake!
Yea I don't think it's really a fair comparison to compare something you spend 100s hours on to something you spend 5 minutes on. He also basically hasn't even tried head tracking combined with flying in a different direction, which is one of the things those others did and liked. He had his opinion before using it and didn't give it a chance. It might still be bad, but this review simply doesn't review it really. Would be interesting to put a complete beginner to use the motion controller and the normal remote, both for 5 minutes and see which flight looks smoother and safer.
Great review as always, brother. I love the fact that you are always giving your honest opinion on the situation. It made me realize that I still want to get this, but it will not replace any of the cinewhoops my FPV fleet.
You don’t have rear obstacle sensors! It’s just for indoor precise vision positioning… also: if you use real vision while flying,it will cancel the dvr recording, so probably you will crash without an idea where. For me the g3 worked better in term of ergonomics, but I agree, I too need imax fov ;) Gimbal is really helpful for filming. Slowly fly downwards into the woods, not possible without gimbal…. Greets, good to see your videos perform really well now, well deserved man!
I bet they will make the rear sensors available in an update, will be super useful for tracking backwards! I wished they gave us strap mounting options on the goggles and let us decide!
With the motion controller, you tilt it up and down to go up and down. You can do full vertical with it. You don't really use the little joystick when flying, lol.
Does it get tossed around by the wind a lot easier than the avata 1 because it's lighter weight? Also, if you implement the joystick with the motion control you can perform some really good shots. Most just use the trigger and motion sensor in the controller but forget to utilize the joy stick for the best experience and performance
yes I also find other reviewers and on the forums not utilizing the joystick just toe motion controller, I'll play around with it once mine got delivered next week, hopefully googles 3 and motion control 3 becomes available in DJI fly sim so I don't mess around with the drone in real life and risk crashing it.
The wind impacts it a bit more than AVATA 1, still not bad for what it is! I tried using the joystick but it seems to create very robotic manouvers, I wish it was better programmed to be smoother
@@RimzlerUse the headtracking and think of it like your YAW on the left stick. Focus and follow an object with your head, then lean in the turn with your wrist, its super smooth and you have much more resolution than on the sticks, i have a video on my account of the headtracking with the avata 1
i am looking for my first FPV drone and i was really looking into the cinebot30 but this one looks good as well. i want it for indoor recording mostly for music events and also some outdoor shots as well for making videos and such. what is your personal recommendation ? pros cons ?
Have you tried changing the Gain/Expo settings for the Motion Controller? That may smooth out your video... Just a thought, I don't claim to be an expert.
Thank you! I don't feel like I made a negative review, I like the updates on the drone a lot and can't wait to use it for an upcoming rally job, yet I am griping about the downgrades that are gonna make my experience less pleasant, also I will need to carry 2 radios and 2 goggles because stuff is not intercompatible
I've been wanting to move into FPV for a longtime and after how fluid you were with the sticks I think I'll buy the remote with the fly more. Great thorough video. Thanks!
Bro. Cheers from California! Didn't know how much more control you get with the regular controller. I like the want thingy but now I'm tempted to try the real co troller. Alos.. bought the single battery one.... wondering if I should have bought the fly more with 3 batteries
With the regular controller is a path, you have to gain experience in normal and sport, probably you will be proficient in a week, then you need to practice manual on a simulator for a little bit 1/2/3 weeks, once you are proficient in the sim try the real thing and boom in a couple months you are a manual pilot and believe me is a blast!
Even though this is not a traditional FPV drone that you can freestyle with, would you say it can be a good beginner drone to do light freestyle and still experience the fun of FPV? I’m not into cinematic, I just like flight and the thrill. I don’t want to have to buy a bunch of batteries, controllers, use beta flight, etc. Can I still have fun and get a rush from this drone? Would you recommend it for someone like me who just wants to get out and fly?
Appreciate your candor. As someone looking for their 1st drone though, the controller 3 you complain about so much is actually part of what attracted me to it. The dual stick controllers are intimidating to someone who has never used them and IMO I would probably crash a drone more frequently with the sticks while getting up.to speed with the learning curve than with the controller 3. Pretty sure that's why they made it - to get newbies into the game. Sure I'll get the stick controller at some point but to be able to fly out of the box by someone who has never used a drone before I think it is more intuitive and will draw a lot larger beginner base. Why are the ground and positioning sensors only on the back though? I imagine 99% of crashes are from froward motion...so why no front sensors or object avoidance?
Sticks may look daunting at first but on a drone like the avata, that hovers super precise and gives you all the time to think, I think that only takes maybe an extra hour to get the hang of with no real risk of crashing in an open field, and that's a skill that translates to all the other drones out there They didn't even implement the back collision avoidance yet, so it doesn't have obstacle avoidance... That's because of price, that's why I hope they make a pro version with more features
@Rimzler Thanks for the reply! NO collision avoidance at all? Maybe I should buy a mini4Pro + the googles3 instead? MP4 has 360 collision avoidance and will qirkmw thr Goggles 3 I believe, right? Would that help keep me from crashing, (could FPV throught the woods)? ..or is the MP4 really just a totally different functionality / experience? Where are you from? Beautiful surroundings. Orchards?
Well it is the best action cam Cinewhoop out there at this point, maybe doesn't fly as good as the 3.5 inches, but damn used as a cinewhoop is incredible, lighter and is like having a tiltable osmo action 4
I'm totally green with drones stuff so I have a question. Do they make a graphene battery already for this drone or lithium-ion only? 23min flight time? is pretty much standard I guess? Nothing fancy when you keep in mind half of that time required for return to starting position then it's even worst.
So far we have 2 major battery chemistries (99.9%) for drones: The most common is the Lithium polymer LiPo, it's the sack shaped ones that are less energy dense but can deliver a ton of amps of discharge at once, used in FPV and most drones like avata 1/2 mavics etc There are some small variations some including a bit of graphene as conductor layer but it's mostly marketing gimmicks and don't make a perceivable difference The other is lithium ion Li ion cells shaped like regular batteries with metal casing, for more efficient applications, they are more energy dense and can be discharged to a lower voltage, but can deliver a lot less amps at once, so if you push the throttle they don't deliver They are found in the Mavic mini 1, DJI FPV I believe and some long range FPV drones, also electric vehicles bikes scooters and skates In FPV 23 minutes is a lot, most regular FPV drones fly 4/5/6 minutes We are all waiting for a battery tech breakthrough that allows more energy to be stored in less space and weight!
Shockingly windy! I actually think it handled that wind really well that wind is serious. I just got my RC today, I agree that once you know how to fly with a real RC there’s no going back, it just feels limited. I also agree that the integra or googles 2 feel better than these new goggles but if range is better I’ll get used to them haha! Of the three goggles I love the integra and wish it were compatible. Hope it will be with future updates
Yeah it's crazy how both avatas hold wind! I tested the old one in the worst places and I always was shocked! I do really hope they make the old stuff compatible
They made the right marketing choices, their goal is make a product that sells well, we in the FPV niche have other needs that are not well met, and doesn't make sense financially I believe
So I finally got the RC3 sticks adjusted properly and am about to get full acro.. I'm just curious, will that tutorial prompt with putting the 2 sticks on the green line to unlock full manual stop showing up after so many unlocks. I hope so because that is highly annoying lolol.
No it never stops showing, it's not a tutorial, but a environment to adjust camera angle and put throttle at the point of hover There Is a way to remove it modifying the parameters through drone hacks, but I don't know if it works on the AVATA 2 yet
I bought it knowing I wouldn't like the motion controller. The gimbal is what sold me. Being able to adjust it on the fly without having to build some servo based monstrosity is gold.
@Rimzler if we're honest the head tracking doesn't really work properly with this machine because of the 1 axis nature of the gimbal. I found the limits of it's ability very quickly. If you're just hovering around it's fine, but soon as you push it the tracking comes unstuck.
@@SickocrowAU yes absolutely, but I would love to be able to control up and down tilt with it while using the controller, shouldn't be so hard for DJI considering that all the input are mixed through the goggles already
Thanks for the honest review! Can you please share in which country have you filmed the video and if you have applied the FCC unlock? Your top speed in manual would suggest that its either not shot in EU or that the speed limit is not enforced or you have the hack.
I tested flying without hack first and did not feel the difference in speed too much, also the signal is pretty good in ce, but yes i applied the hack before the video, check the description!
@@Rimzleri guess your drone has an early development firmware. I guess if you update the firmware. You’ll be in CE mode with half the power and 1/4th transmission power. 🤷♂️
are you in CE mode? I am still waiting for my a2 to arrive and kind of worried about the penetration of the video transmission as I live in CE region and from the forums I read that the FCC ham file is not working for A2 on the latest firmware version when you are on a CE region.
I tested in ce mode first and was wondering if it was FCC, because damn it performs very good, but then putting it in FCC through drone tweaks FCC DJI fly, the signal is a lot better!
Thank you. Excellent honest opinion about the product! Damn, I recently bought two drones with o3, and the o4 has already come out, which is better. What should I do now...
Thank you! Well o4 is not out yet, only found in AVATA, don't even know if it's gonna fit as the cam seems bigger, so companies will have to design new frames😓
EXACTLY! The motion controller is funny for a while and I get it, but it doesn't compare to the real controller. I had to wait a week to get the real controller and once I got it, I will never use the other one again. But I might let other people play with the other one. But the oddest thing is that Acro with the Controller 3 is really crazy easy... maybe I just got really good with Acro over the winter but holy cow, it worked really well for me. And I LOVE the Goggles, so that's a personal thing that each individual will have to decide.
Yes I think they should focus on teaching people gradually to use the radio and transition into manual! It would be an incredible experience sold that way! And the ability will translate to all the other drones! Yeah goggle fit is subjective, but adding a couple mounting points for regular straps and let people decide even better, stuff is not cheap
@@Rimzler thanks for the video. I see your frustration when it comes to performance, but if DJI put out a drone that was more true Acro Fun it would weigh less than 1/2 a pound, fly for about 3 minutes and be done. I would like to see DJI put out a drone that can fly like a real FPV Manual mode drone, but we both know DJI is primarily about video and photography. Not making toys 🧸 that are true manual mode fun where their primary purpose is to do crazy bad ass stunts. Not sure why people expect this from DJi? I wish they would. It would be cool to see what they can accomplish. 😊
They make a lot of money selling those cheap controllers for $200. I don’t know if you realize but the RC controller 3 is not a real radio anymore, it’s basically a joystick with just a Bluetooth connection to the goggles, all transmission heavy lifting is done by the goggles!
You are right, it doesn't seem to connect to the drone anymore without goggles( even tho the old one did the same when detecting the goggles), but hope this solves the issues of past generation when it came to air unit and o3, that always had to rebind when switching between them, and that when loosing video connection it would take 5 seconds to reconnect, now it should be able to immediately failsafe I hope What's bad is that for them it should cost like 5$ and sell at extortionate margin, while not improving things for us, like better gimbals would be nice or another wheel for extra aux channel
Hi, thank you very much for the review, i love your accent, it is so much fun to watch 😅! About the goggles 3, you got a point here, but for me the smaller screen is better, because with the goggles 2 i get really dissy, i bought 4 pad and it didn’t help at all! The goggles 3 fits nicely, but i don’t know in time what happens to the rubber pad! And the quality if the camera is just amazing, i think it will be a game changer… thanks again man and happy chasing your chickens 😂
The motion control review seems like its just because youre not used to it, youve been using the sticks for a while so thats what feels natural to you. the motion control can easilly allow you to get some great shots and track targets while also doing some precise flying .... when youve practiced. The remote is gonna give you much more control but also disables a bunch of decent features which are good for cinematic flying. if you need casual flights where film is the priority , use the motion control if yo uwant the regular fpv style, use the fpv remote
Awesome and honest review. I also think Googles 3 are a downgrade because the diopters adjust now down to -6 max while Googles 2 go down to -8. From a glasses user I´m between -7 and -8 so with Googles 2 I can see perfectly fine, with Googles 3 I need to order now corrective lenses in order to use them. This feels as an absolute downgrade considering Googles 2 where already perfect for me.
Daamn i didn't even spot that! Can't you adjust extra with the lens adapters? I really do hope the old goggle 2 support o4 as they seem to completely be able to, and are more premium than this
Thank you! Imho yes, sensor is bigger, more dynamic range and better low light, the log profile of the action 4 is better than GoPro and matches better with other cams especially from DJI! Maybe GoPro can go 5k and have more resolution, but 4k is plenty for me
One the auto function on the Motion Controller the only ones I think are really good to have is the side to side and the 180 because they are great for helping you with good shots where the Motion Controller would normally fail in. The rolls are all gimmicks and for show. They don’t have any real purpose where the 180 and side shots do. You can use head tracking and focus on an object and use the slide function that will actually give you a nice orbit around your subject. Pretty cool stuff. 😊
Motion Controller may makes some move easier yes that's true, but only individually, if you are flying and want to have a good flow you still need the regular radio imho
Looking to buy one and your opinions are just what I needed to hear most. Thank you so much! Also I found it's funny when you found the dog was digging hole! Lol
What would you think about a guy new to fpv or drones in general getting this avata2? I'm thinking of getting it as I see the learning curve is better. Also I would get the bundle with RC and goggles so when i finish building my 5" i can get an O3 air unit and don't have to buy another goggles/RC... Again, total newbie here, maybe I'm talking crap. Thanks
Hi! I read that the Googles 2 and Controller 2 are going to be compatible with the Avata 2 with a software update. So, with your great review, I think the best, having the Avata 1, could be buy just the Avata 2 and keep my Googles 2 and Controller 2. What do you think? Thanks for your video!
100% agree. I skipped the first Avata*. I got this so my fiance and family could fly FPV, both of them don't really like standard controllers. If they don't like the motion controller either, Ill probably be returning it
Thanks for your honest and professional optinion once again! You awnserd all my questions to the drone. I also hope its get sold separately and gets googles 2 support, than im buying it for some video stuff. And im exited about the Airunit O4, better than GoPro sounds amazing :D Can you maybe do an comparison -> O3 recording vs Avata 2 vs GoPro? Would be very interesting :)
It is sold separately, I believe compatibility is gonna come soon and can't wait! I have a job coming for a week, when I'm back I will make the comparison thanks!
Nice review but I am quite surprised by your Goggles 3 feedback, didnt hear so much negativity on them elsewhere. Btw. how would you compare Avata 2 to Avata 1 with Axis Flying 3.5 kit?
I use the goggles 2 everyday, so I immediately noticed that they kind of cheaped out on this new ones, I understand the marketing move but still see that they spent the money on useless stuff, that's why I'm sad Axisflying kit flies much better but has less battery and of course less image quality unless you put a naked GoPro
Good honest review. I can't argue with anything you said other than I don't have a big of a problem with the new goggles. If DJI make the old goggles compatible with the avata 2 I will try them both and see which works best in work situations. I didn't get the FPV remote 3 yet - hoping DJI will make the remote 2 compatible eventually, or make the remote 3 compatible with O3 so I can just have one remote.
Yes I really hope they give us choices, because in the end fit is personal as everyone has different head shapes, but giving options is the best way to deal with it
i can fly easely, smooth an without any stopp an correcture. you just dont have to press the trigger that much, take it easy and you can fly smooth and under full controll... and you dont need to have your arm this high, you can fly easely seating with your arm on your leg without any stress. i like it very much. i can fly trough my apartement, trough cars, 10cm above the floor, everything pretty easy...
I don't have doubts about it, and it's even fun, but I believe DJI should have provided it as an accessory, and made the main input the usual radio, it's even easier to use, and has a higher skill ceiling, also it will translate to any other drone
Because DJI changes what works and what's customizable like that, and they decide that this is what the new generation offers, I have to use them everyday and the old ones were more convenient I wish they allowed different mounting options so people could choose
Great and honest review, I agree with everything you said, I got the drone yesterday and the motion controller is pretty useless. Its only good for marketing. makes you look cool. but in reality the Remote controller is the way to go. The new goggles are just bad. They hurt pretty bad and make you sweat a lot.... I'll keep looking for aftermarket accessory for it. as this thing is almost unbearable
Thank you and I'm glad you agree! Maybe some mods will come out but will require disassembling and probably rewiring, maybe the electronic fits in the old integras?
@@Rimzler i'm not hoping for anything crazy, just a foam that makes it easier to wear, the extra pad that comes with the goggles for the forehead does help a little bit. but it's not enough. Maybe a memory foam replaces the silly rubber just so it doesn't hurt my nose and stop light leaks... the current silly rubber is not even good enough for testing. let alone a long flight. I can't imagine myself wearing this goggles for 3 full batteries....
great review.. I have been watching some reviews now, and after they all talked about that easy acro mode as if it was super useful, or even a godsend, i was like pff... how is that not a gimmick!? I was glad to finally see someone burning it to the ground. Anyway, i do still think that the head tracking in combination with the motion controller (and gyroflow) might allow us to make shots that weren't easy to do before. I'm curious how that plays out with some training.
Head tracking with motion controller makes you feel like you are in a cockpit of an aircraft. Very intuitive if you ever used vr or head tracking in a simulator or piloted an actual plane. Easy acro is a gimmick.
Death Roll yaw washout improved at least… hmm, I had the avata 1, and it was a dangerous drone, because of the yaw washout. This seems to be a little bit better, maybe I will try it. Thank you very much for this review
great video thank you!! 'where are the chickens when I need them!!' haha! I have the mini 4 pro and avata 2, both amazing drones for different situations!!
Hey man! Can You make a cinewhoop suggestion video instead of Avata 2? xD With the O3 unit and hopefully O4 in the future. What would you recommend to build or buy pre-build. I dont know if you had a video like that for the Avata 1, if not, it'd be great to see something like that.
Hey mate, my avata 2 arrived today. Set everything up but was disappointed from the M Mode, can’t even to a split S in manual mode. Do you have a rates recommendation?
Finally an honest review by an experienced pilot that’s not been scripted by DJI 🙏🏼
Thank you! I don't know what happens when they sponsor you, I think people should still be free to talk how they feel
My feeling as the credits rolled
yes i appreciated that too, completely agree re the fully swivelling mask instead of the cameras and there needs to be a eye lens cover 100%, they will sell like hotcakes on temu haha. I think the resolution of the goggles is way better though.
Those sponsored are not scripted.
@@RimzlerI submitted your video to DJI under feedback… hope they listen.
After watching 10 videos about DJI Neo and Avata, I thought I was the only one thinking that those flipping stuff are totally useless.
Thanks for that more realistic, real life, and fun review. 😄👍
First time that I feel a DJI REVIEW deserves my compliment! This is a frank honest assessment without the too common claptrap. Please keep up making great videos, thank you.
This is my new favorite drone channel. Chase the chickens had me laughing hard. Nice work and great review. 🎉
Ahahahhaha thank you! Well chicken chase is a standardized test that all the drones have to go through when I make the review!
Honestly, I'm a fan of the easy acro mode. It's not just a gimmick for sales. For us FPV beginners, pulling off cool aerial tricks isn't a walk in the park, and this mode helps without making things too complicated. And can't deny it, this will indeed spice up my flying experience.
I totally believe is a cool experience! And it's true that doing it in manual takes skill, and it's better to have a easy mode rather than not of course!
I say useless regarding to video recording purposes, as you will have to learn real manual to integrate acro smoothly into videos
And still I believe that they could integrate it into the classic radio and teach people gradually how to do acro, so one can have more confidence and learn something useful, ability that translates to any other drone
its more or less a gimmick as its the drone pulling off the move not you, and its not really graceful enough to use for video purposes either. Its too quick but definitely fun to experience for someone who can't yet do flips in manual
@@Rimzler I somewhat agree the 2 easy acro modes are just gimmicks, but I don't agree with the RC motion 3 being useless. I have only shot 1 video with mine so far, but found it very useful, very smooth, and the learning curve was minutes. I actually loved flying with it. Here is my first vid from the Avata 2 w/RC Motion 3 - you can skip ahead to around 2:14 to get the Sport Mode footage with the RC Motion 3 controller. ua-cam.com/video/-joYQvb4r5o/v-deo.html
@@thomaswalker33 acro mode is great to have I have used it once or twice and I don't Wana use it again unless I'm trying to pickup
@@leveractive mini for videos and scenic shots. Avata for fun.
New DJI's Ad: "Maybe it's too slow to chase sports cars, but it's able to chase chickens." Great Review :)
But just with the controller
Ahahahahhahaha chicken are more viral than sports cars 😂😂😂
Finally an honest review. Please make more. I just bought mine and I enjoy your commentary
It’s your review we are all waiting for honest and what we need to hear. Thanks mate. 👍
Happy you agree with my opinions ☺️☺️☺️
Hi Andrea, Avata 2 has C1 class and 19 m/s velocity limitation. 19:31 Did you use FCC mod to achieve high speed or it was just a wind? You mentioned less power - looks like DJI limited speed by the power output and outside EU should be much better.
I tried with and without FCC hack, same speeds in my case, don't know if even with the FCC hack max power output is limited, but it shouldn't
Thank you. I've been waiting for an honest review instead of the mainstream UA-camrs who only speak about the benefits without including any nuance or downsides. I trusted them last time when I bought the Avata 1, and paid the price. I appreciate your honesty and helpful suggestions. 🙏
а авату-2 стал покупать или отказался?
watched like 20-30 reviews the best so far! you got new subscriber
Glad you liked it!😍😍😍
I like your honest reviews man. Really cool. Other people just say everything is the BEST. I hate that. EVERY drone they review is the BEST.
All things have pros and cons, everybody will weight and make an informed choice
Thank you so much for being you and for creating this video as well brother, cheers.
Appreciate the honest opinion on the drone! now I know more about what to expect (especially that control stick) and definitely helps in deciding to buy that FPV controller
Yes absolutely go with the FPV controller!
Always bringing good stuff of all fpv pilots out there. Thanks man.
I am so impressed when it comes to steep diving with the Avata 2 over the Avata 1 it flies down so much more smoothly and a lot better. The Avata 1 will struggle shack and generally freak out when you do the same. They actually made it better in Normal and Sports Mode to use the motion lotion controller over the Controller 2 & 3.
That is very true, it's a lot more stable!
I love you're honesty with all of you're reviews. Keep up the great videos. I feel like I know your garden better than my own! 👌👌🤣
Thank you for watching! Ahahah also all the chicken hideout spots!
Lots of comments praising your honest opinion. And yes I have no doubts that this is your honest opinion. But for everyone to say that all the other reviewers are DJI shills, reading from a script is disingenuous, and outright false.
Rimzler doesn't like the motion controller, and even goes as far as calling the Avata II a toy. This is honestly ridiculous. The Avata II caters for every level of pilot, from beginner to professional. And the motion controller is an amazing piece of technology. With enough use and experience is a superb compliment to an RC controller.
There are literally 100's of videos and reviews stating just how good the Avata II and motion controller is, and yet this is the only honest review? As I said, ridiculous.
The first wave of videos coming out when a product releases are filtered by DJI, it's just product overviews with no personal opinions, so it appears over hyped
Dji makes amazing prosumer drones but when it comes to FPV they treat it like a toy for the masses first and as a tool for videomaking second, that is shown by not including the regular controller in any bundle and forcing people to only use the motion controller with other drones like the Mavic, software locking the use with the regular controller
The motion controller is fine and fun by itself, but absolutely a worse input device compared to the regular controller, which is universally adopted as a standard, and both people coming from other drones, and people starting out, are better using that, since it has a slightly more steep learning curve yes, but allows for finer control and manual flight
Dji knows this and has to force people to buy the motion controller, otherwise it would not sell on its own, and that's the most infuriating thing
Absolutely can be a fun way of flying and a way for people with impairments to enjoy it, but it's that, a toy/experience, with the regular controller it's still that but also a tool for prosumers, I'm not saying the motion controller shouldn't exist, but it should be a complement not the main focus
I like the avata 2 and use it for work often, it's a very versatile platform, but man I wish it was better, starting by fixing the horrible washouts happening randomly when flying manual
Also learning FPV with the motion controller is useless, the avata is easy enough with the regular controller, and that ability can grow and translate to other drones and make you progress, instead you can become proficient with the motion controller and it ends there, pick up another real FPV drone and you start from 0, maybe even worse because you have the wrong muscle memory
I like that you name things like you see them: The "motion ontroller" a "marketing gimmik" and that you call the automatic roll function "useless". And I loved to hear you say "I am scared of drone who fly automatically". It's the best summing up of all these gimmiks. Great video!!
I just got the Avata 2 last week, it's my first real drone other than basically a toy drone I bought on Temu for like $25. I'm loving my experience with the Avata 2. To me the motion controller makes flying very intuitive since it basically replicates an add-on flight stick for a lot of consoles like PS5 or Xbox. While I intend to eventually buy the separate flight controller, I'm in no hurry to get it. The Avata 2 is very easy for a complete beginner to use and then as your skills increase you can eventually get the separate sticks flight controller and use the manual flight mode. This drone might not be the right one for everybody but it was the exact right one for me since I am having so much fun with it! Just my 2 cents.
@@mikepatton8691 It's great to hear that you have big fun with your new Avata 2! Thats what it all is about! I guess you plan is very well: to learn to fly this drone intuitive and with time step up! Every pilot has different needs and expectations and it's great that you found your way and have fun!
Isnt the headtracking + motion controller setup ideal for close inspection of tight spots? Snapping pictures.
You can do the same with FPV controller, maybe even more precise by turning the back wheel to adjust Camera angle
I literally love your review. This was the most honest review i saw till now among all other reviewers. Very pro level review with conplete honesty. Pls keep making such videos . Love from Bharat 🙏🇮🇳
Thank you so much! I like the drone but many choices by DJI have been not the best and gotta report it! Especially because this is my travel drone and have to deal with the bad gear
I understand the experienced pilot appreciates this review. As a total noob, i couldn't disagree more. With 0% experience i could fly this drone so easily its an amazing drone for me. just 10 minutes practice and i was flying like a pro. Some sort. AND it was because of the easy controller. Just my 2 cents, tx for your review though
Now this is the real unbiased review lol! Very blunt no sugar coating ! Subscribed !
Thank you so much! I have to use this gear everyday so I really care about it
Avata2 or Cinebot25 or DarkStar20
I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment.
1. Do u think I should get the avata2 or cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner?
2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced.
Thanks in advance!
Well I suggest waiting, as all the drones that have o3 now, will get o4 in the near future probably, so having a small o4 one will be incredible!
AVATA 2 is very versatile, I suggest waiting for it as the old gear may become compatible with it!
Liked and subscribed because of the honest review, your personality and the great hair!🤪
Ahahahah thank you so much! 😂😂💇♂️💇♂️💇♂️💇♂️
Good honest review. Personally, I think the new goggles are way more comfortable than all my other "traditional FPV goggles. It probably has a lot to do with face/head shape, but I feel like they're way more "locked on" than traditional gogs, and the FOV is at the limit of what I can get in frame. You do know you can tighten them with the dial on the back, right? Other than that, I think you nailed it.
They are comfier than stock goggle 2, but not aftermarket for me, yeah I tightened to the point of hurting, but it has a smaller contact area compared to the old anyway, and in some situations they will shake, but that's a niche use! Like now I am shooting a car parade and will need to fly from inside another car, that's a concern!
For sure I like innovation, but I see too many obvious improvements, like make them swivel all the way up, and add a couple mounting points for aftermarket parts
They should give people the choice to personalize their fit, and maybe they can even sell all the different inexpensive attachments and sell for a premium, I wouldn't criticize that much then
Thank you for your honest words about the Avata2! Finally, someone talks about stuff that really matters! Great Video!
So many fpv pilots really liked the motion controller... or said so atleast. Refreshing to hear its gimmicky maybe not for beginners but for practiced pilots I dont think theyll seriously use the motion controller..
I have tried all the motion controllers so far and it's the same as the old ones basically, it's fun to use for a while but it's not better in any way compared to the real radio and you eventually grow tired of it
It maybe made sense with the original DJI FPV, that could fly super fast up in the air and not worry about obstacles so much, but for a cinewhoop that flies low it's not precise enough
Even for beginners the real radio is better imho, better control, better safety, they are going to be able to fly much closer to obstacles and through them, also it has a big progression to be made, up to flying acro, and the ability translates to and from any other drone on
Actually when you do dives now in the N&S Modes the dives are much cleaner than using these modes with the Controller 3. You can get different views and angles with the combo of motion controller and head tracking. Where the controller 3 just cannot at this time.
Controller 3 truly shines because of manual mode which is the real reason we all buy the Controller 2 and 3 to begin with.
The Avata 1 absolutely sucked in these deep dive shots because it would freak out and shack and bounce around. The Avata 2 doesn’t have these issues.
Going between the Motion Controller and Controller 3 gives us a nice advantage for some sweet shots or just kick back fly and have fun 🤩
Yeah good point, at least in descending the motion controller makes stuff easier, it takes quite a bit of experience to do the same on the regular remote!
True also that the old avatar had more shake!
It's not gimmicky I csn 100% get shots with the motion controller that he can't get in manual mode or with any other fpv drone.
Yea I don't think it's really a fair comparison to compare something you spend 100s hours on to something you spend 5 minutes on. He also basically hasn't even tried head tracking combined with flying in a different direction, which is one of the things those others did and liked. He had his opinion before using it and didn't give it a chance.
It might still be bad, but this review simply doesn't review it really.
Would be interesting to put a complete beginner to use the motion controller and the normal remote, both for 5 minutes and see which flight looks smoother and safer.
Great review as always, brother. I love the fact that you are always giving your honest opinion on the situation. It made me realize that I still want to get this, but it will not replace any of the cinewhoops my FPV fleet.
You don’t have rear obstacle sensors! It’s just for indoor precise vision positioning… also: if you use real vision while flying,it will cancel the dvr recording, so probably you will crash without an idea where.
For me the g3 worked better in term of ergonomics, but I agree, I too need imax fov ;)
Gimbal is really helpful for filming. Slowly fly downwards into the woods, not possible without gimbal…. Greets, good to see your videos perform really well now, well deserved man!
I bet they will make the rear sensors available in an update, will be super useful for tracking backwards!
I wished they gave us strap mounting options on the goggles and let us decide!
With the motion controller, you tilt it up and down to go up and down. You can do full vertical with it. You don't really use the little joystick when flying, lol.
Does it get tossed around by the wind a lot easier than the avata 1 because it's lighter weight? Also, if you implement the joystick with the motion control you can perform some really good shots. Most just use the trigger and motion sensor in the controller but forget to utilize the joy stick for the best experience and performance
yes I also find other reviewers and on the forums not utilizing the joystick just toe motion controller, I'll play around with it once mine got delivered next week, hopefully googles 3 and motion control 3 becomes available in DJI fly sim so I don't mess around with the drone in real life and risk crashing it.
The wind impacts it a bit more than AVATA 1, still not bad for what it is!
I tried using the joystick but it seems to create very robotic manouvers, I wish it was better programmed to be smoother
@@RimzlerUse the headtracking and think of it like your YAW on the left stick.
Focus and follow an object with your head, then lean in the turn with your wrist, its super smooth and you have much more resolution than on the sticks, i have a video on my account of the headtracking with the avata 1
i am looking for my first FPV drone and i was really looking into the cinebot30 but this one looks good as well. i want it for indoor recording mostly for music events and also some outdoor shots as well for making videos and such. what is your personal recommendation ? pros cons ?
Have you tried changing the Gain/Expo settings for the Motion Controller? That may smooth out your video... Just a thought, I don't claim to be an expert.
Yes you can smooth it out a bit but still not incredibly precise
I liked your honesty, it is a great review. This review made me more interested in the Avata 2 than all the “fanboy” reviews!
Thank you! I don't feel like I made a negative review, I like the updates on the drone a lot and can't wait to use it for an upcoming rally job, yet I am griping about the downgrades that are gonna make my experience less pleasant, also I will need to carry 2 radios and 2 goggles because stuff is not intercompatible
Thanks for your honest review! Now I feel much better having ordered a refurbished Goggles 2 than an Goggles 3 to get into FPV as an beginner❤
Absolute perfect choice! Hope DJI keeps updating the goggles 2, they are the only "premium" goggles they have
@@Rimzler maybe that’s the reason why you don’t find much content comparing goggles 2 and 3
I've been wanting to move into FPV for a longtime and after how fluid you were with the sticks I think I'll buy the remote with the fly more. Great thorough video. Thanks!
Finally someone said something interesting about new goggles. Thank you.
I have to use them every day so I really care they are ergonomic
Bro. Cheers from California! Didn't know how much more control you get with the regular controller. I like the want thingy but now I'm tempted to try the real co troller. Alos.. bought the single battery one.... wondering if I should have bought the fly more with 3 batteries
With the regular controller is a path, you have to gain experience in normal and sport, probably you will be proficient in a week, then you need to practice manual on a simulator for a little bit 1/2/3 weeks, once you are proficient in the sim try the real thing and boom in a couple months you are a manual pilot and believe me is a blast!
You can't change the whole thing. You have to send it back to dji for repairs. And it still suffers from the yaw snap issues
That's a real shame considering it's brittler than the old one! The yaw shakes sometime, but it's not the crazy tumble it did before at least
A great balanced review with some good perspectives.
Thank you so much!☺️☺️
Thanks for the review. Hopefully i will have this drone in not much time
You will have a blast!
Even though this is not a traditional FPV drone that you can freestyle with, would you say it can be a good beginner drone to do light freestyle and still experience the fun of FPV? I’m not into cinematic, I just like flight and the thrill. I don’t want to have to buy a bunch of batteries, controllers, use beta flight, etc. Can I still have fun and get a rush from this drone? Would you recommend it for someone like me who just wants to get out and fly?
Appreciate your candor. As someone looking for their 1st drone though, the controller 3 you complain about so much is actually part of what attracted me to it. The dual stick controllers are intimidating to someone who has never used them and IMO I would probably crash a drone more frequently with the sticks while getting up.to speed with the learning curve than with the controller 3. Pretty sure that's why they made it - to get newbies into the game. Sure I'll get the stick controller at some point but to be able to fly out of the box by someone who has never used a drone before I think it is more intuitive and will draw a lot larger beginner base.
Why are the ground and positioning sensors only on the back though? I imagine 99% of crashes are from froward motion...so why no front sensors or object avoidance?
Sticks may look daunting at first but on a drone like the avata, that hovers super precise and gives you all the time to think, I think that only takes maybe an extra hour to get the hang of with no real risk of crashing in an open field, and that's a skill that translates to all the other drones out there
They didn't even implement the back collision avoidance yet, so it doesn't have obstacle avoidance... That's because of price, that's why I hope they make a pro version with more features
@Rimzler Thanks for the reply!
NO collision avoidance at all?
Maybe I should buy a mini4Pro + the googles3 instead? MP4 has 360 collision avoidance and will qirkmw thr Goggles 3 I believe, right?
Would that help keep me from crashing, (could FPV throught the woods)?
..or is the MP4 really just a totally different functionality / experience?
Where are you from? Beautiful surroundings. Orchards?
Time to ditch the the GEPRC CineBot30? I feel like this one is much more practical and much safer. Also better video quality than a GP12?
Well it is the best action cam Cinewhoop out there at this point, maybe doesn't fly as good as the 3.5 inches, but damn used as a cinewhoop is incredible, lighter and is like having a tiltable osmo action 4
Grande Andrea, la migliore recensione come sempre! Attendo con ansia di vedere cosa ne farai di questo drone 😂💪
Grazie mille! Sono già a lavoro con lui☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
I'm totally green with drones stuff so I have a question. Do they make a graphene battery already for this drone or lithium-ion only? 23min flight time? is pretty much standard I guess? Nothing fancy when you keep in mind half of that time required for return to starting position then it's even worst.
So far we have 2 major battery chemistries (99.9%) for drones:
The most common is the Lithium polymer LiPo, it's the sack shaped ones that are less energy dense but can deliver a ton of amps of discharge at once, used in FPV and most drones like avata 1/2 mavics etc
There are some small variations some including a bit of graphene as conductor layer but it's mostly marketing gimmicks and don't make a perceivable difference
The other is lithium ion Li ion cells shaped like regular batteries with metal casing, for more efficient applications, they are more energy dense and can be discharged to a lower voltage, but can deliver a lot less amps at once, so if you push the throttle they don't deliver
They are found in the Mavic mini 1, DJI FPV I believe and some long range FPV drones, also electric vehicles bikes scooters and skates
In FPV 23 minutes is a lot, most regular FPV drones fly 4/5/6 minutes
We are all waiting for a battery tech breakthrough that allows more energy to be stored in less space and weight!
Shockingly windy! I actually think it handled that wind really well that wind is serious. I just got my RC today, I agree that once you know how to fly with a real RC there’s no going back, it just feels limited. I also agree that the integra or googles 2 feel better than these new goggles but if range is better I’ll get used to them haha! Of the three goggles I love the integra and wish it were compatible. Hope it will be with future updates
Yeah it's crazy how both avatas hold wind! I tested the old one in the worst places and I always was shocked!
I do really hope they make the old stuff compatible
Great video mate! You should be working for the DJI design department. Those gripes are easily fixed by someone with practical experience!
They made the right marketing choices, their goal is make a product that sells well, we in the FPV niche have other needs that are not well met, and doesn't make sense financially I believe
So I finally got the RC3 sticks adjusted properly and am about to get full acro.. I'm just curious, will that tutorial prompt with putting the 2 sticks on the green line to unlock full manual stop showing up after so many unlocks. I hope so because that is highly annoying lolol.
No it never stops showing, it's not a tutorial, but a environment to adjust camera angle and put throttle at the point of hover
There Is a way to remove it modifying the parameters through drone hacks, but I don't know if it works on the AVATA 2 yet
It's not a tutorial prompt. It's a safety mechanism so you don't engage manual mode and instantly go into a freefall before you are ready.
Thank you guys! One other quick question with the RC3. When landing in manual mode is there a disarm button or do you have to land in normal mode?
I bought it knowing I wouldn't like the motion controller. The gimbal is what sold me. Being able to adjust it on the fly without having to build some servo based monstrosity is gold.
Yeah I love that a lot, having a tiltable good quality Cinewhoop is golden, I just wish they add head tracking with normal controller
@Rimzler if we're honest the head tracking doesn't really work properly with this machine because of the 1 axis nature of the gimbal. I found the limits of it's ability very quickly. If you're just hovering around it's fine, but soon as you push it the tracking comes unstuck.
@@SickocrowAU yes absolutely, but I would love to be able to control up and down tilt with it while using the controller, shouldn't be so hard for DJI considering that all the input are mixed through the goggles already
Thanks for the honest review! Can you please share in which country have you filmed the video and if you have applied the FCC unlock? Your top speed in manual would suggest that its either not shot in EU or that the speed limit is not enforced or you have the hack.
I tested flying without hack first and did not feel the difference in speed too much, also the signal is pretty good in ce, but yes i applied the hack before the video, check the description!
@@Rimzleri guess your drone has an early development firmware. I guess if you update the firmware. You’ll be in CE mode with half the power and 1/4th transmission power. 🤷♂️
I really appreciate your review, you saved me 1200 bucks, thank you. I will pass it on.
Ahahahhahaha the drone is worth it imho, just wait if and when the old gear will be compatible, it will be much cheaper
are you in CE mode? I am still waiting for my a2 to arrive and kind of worried about the penetration of the video transmission as I live in CE region and from the forums I read that the FCC ham file is not working for A2 on the latest firmware version when you are on a CE region.
I tested in ce mode first and was wondering if it was FCC, because damn it performs very good, but then putting it in FCC through drone tweaks FCC DJI fly, the signal is a lot better!
@@Rimzler awesome! Thank you for the update and for the awesome review as always!
Thank you. Excellent honest opinion about the product!
Damn, I recently bought two drones with o3, and the o4 has already come out, which is better. What should I do now...
Thank you! Well o4 is not out yet, only found in AVATA, don't even know if it's gonna fit as the cam seems bigger, so companies will have to design new frames😓
@@Rimzleryea the bigger cam I’ve been very curious about in a traditional fpv build. The 03 is already pushing the limits on most builds.
I appreciate this test review, and enjoy you not holding back this video is gonna help adjust my decision of if buying this is worth it or not
I suggest waiting a couple months, DJI usually refines the products and eventually makes it compatible with old stuff
EXACTLY! The motion controller is funny for a while and I get it, but it doesn't compare to the real controller. I had to wait a week to get the real controller and once I got it, I will never use the other one again. But I might let other people play with the other one. But the oddest thing is that Acro with the Controller 3 is really crazy easy... maybe I just got really good with Acro over the winter but holy cow, it worked really well for me. And I LOVE the Goggles, so that's a personal thing that each individual will have to decide.
Yes I think they should focus on teaching people gradually to use the radio and transition into manual! It would be an incredible experience sold that way! And the ability will translate to all the other drones!
Yeah goggle fit is subjective, but adding a couple mounting points for regular straps and let people decide even better, stuff is not cheap
This is the review I've been waiting for
Thank you for the trust☺️☺️
Do you habe some opinion on the speed/speedcap in Europe? Is it really limiting or is it fine for its purpose (cinewhoop)?
We still have to learn how it applies, because I could go as fast as with FCC, so idk
This is the honest review I am looking for. Thanks for this😊
Thank you! I have to use this stuff everyday, so I really care about the user experience
@@Rimzler thanks for the video. I see your frustration when it comes to performance, but if DJI put out a drone that was more true Acro Fun it would weigh less than 1/2 a pound, fly for about 3 minutes and be done.
I would like to see DJI put out a drone that can fly like a real FPV Manual mode drone, but we both know DJI is primarily about video and photography. Not making toys 🧸 that are true manual mode fun where their primary purpose is to do crazy bad ass stunts.
Not sure why people expect this from DJi? I wish they would. It would be cool to see what they can accomplish. 😊
They make a lot of money selling those cheap controllers for $200. I don’t know if you realize but the RC controller 3 is not a real radio anymore, it’s basically a joystick with just a Bluetooth connection to the goggles, all transmission heavy lifting
is done by the goggles!
You are right, it doesn't seem to connect to the drone anymore without goggles( even tho the old one did the same when detecting the goggles), but hope this solves the issues of past generation when it came to air unit and o3, that always had to rebind when switching between them, and that when loosing video connection it would take 5 seconds to reconnect, now it should be able to immediately failsafe I hope
What's bad is that for them it should cost like 5$ and sell at extortionate margin, while not improving things for us, like better gimbals would be nice or another wheel for extra aux channel
Hi, thank you very much for the review, i love your accent, it is so much fun to watch 😅!
About the goggles 3, you got a point here, but for me the smaller screen is better, because with the goggles 2 i get really dissy, i bought 4 pad and it didn’t help at all!
The goggles 3 fits nicely, but i don’t know in time what happens to the rubber pad! And the quality if the camera is just amazing, i think it will be a game changer… thanks again man and happy chasing your chickens 😂
The motion control review seems like its just because youre not used to it, youve been using the sticks for a while so thats what feels natural to you. the motion control can easilly allow you to get some great shots and track targets while also doing some precise flying .... when youve practiced. The remote is gonna give you much more control but also disables a bunch of decent features which are good for cinematic flying.
if you need casual flights where film is the priority , use the motion control
if yo uwant the regular fpv style, use the fpv remote
They also do provide a bit of foam to prtect the lenses. it comes in the kit, did you throw it out ?
Awesome and honest review. I also think Googles 3 are a downgrade because the diopters adjust now down to -6 max while Googles 2 go down to -8. From a glasses user I´m between -7 and -8 so with Googles 2 I can see perfectly fine, with Googles 3 I need to order now corrective lenses in order to use them. This feels as an absolute downgrade considering Googles 2 where already perfect for me.
Daamn i didn't even spot that! Can't you adjust extra with the lens adapters? I really do hope the old goggle 2 support o4 as they seem to completely be able to, and are more premium than this
Fantastic review, thank you!
Is the image quality really on par or even bit better then a current gopro?
Thank you! Imho yes, sensor is bigger, more dynamic range and better low light, the log profile of the action 4 is better than GoPro and matches better with other cams especially from DJI! Maybe GoPro can go 5k and have more resolution, but 4k is plenty for me
One the auto function on the Motion Controller the only ones I think are really good to have is the side to side and the 180 because they are great for helping you with good shots where the Motion Controller would normally fail in. The rolls are all gimmicks and for show. They don’t have any real purpose where the 180 and side shots do.
You can use head tracking and focus on an object and use the slide function that will actually give you a nice orbit around your subject. Pretty cool stuff. 😊
Motion Controller may makes some move easier yes that's true, but only individually, if you are flying and want to have a good flow you still need the regular radio imho
Looking to buy one and your opinions are just what I needed to hear most. Thank you so much! Also I found it's funny when you found the dog was digging hole! Lol
What would you think about a guy new to fpv or drones in general getting this avata2? I'm thinking of getting it as I see the learning curve is better. Also I would get the bundle with RC and goggles so when i finish building my 5" i can get an O3 air unit and don't have to buy another goggles/RC... Again, total newbie here, maybe I'm talking crap. Thanks
Hi! Can you look straight down with the camera while the drone is stationary in the air?
Yes but you see a bit of the frame, if you are moving you dont
Solid review thank bud 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Thank you for watching!
Excellent review, thank you. The video quality doesn't look so good. Did you put some compression?
hi Rimzler i like your videos very much, but could you please compare the avata 2 with the avata 1 axisflying? thank you☺
Thank you! What you want to know? The axisflying kit flies much better, but battery doesn't last long
Great video. Does it record at 10bits?
Yessir!
Hi! I read that the Googles 2 and Controller 2 are going to be compatible with the Avata 2 with a software update. So, with your great review, I think the best, having the Avata 1, could be buy just the Avata 2 and keep my Googles 2 and Controller 2. What do you think? Thanks for your video!
thank you for the honest review, can you fly the avata 2 with the old rc2?
Thanks for tuning in! Not yet, I hope it will be possible
100% agree. I skipped the first Avata*. I got this so my fiance and family could fly FPV, both of them don't really like standard controllers. If they don't like the motion controller either, Ill probably be returning it
Well it's fun, I made my family try and they can pick it up faster seems like
Thanks for your honest and professional optinion once again! You awnserd all my questions to the drone.
I also hope its get sold separately and gets googles 2 support, than im buying it for some video stuff.
And im exited about the Airunit O4, better than GoPro sounds amazing :D
Can you maybe do an comparison -> O3 recording vs Avata 2 vs GoPro? Would be very interesting :)
It is sold separately, I believe compatibility is gonna come soon and can't wait! I have a job coming for a week, when I'm back I will make the comparison thanks!
Nice review but I am quite surprised by your Goggles 3 feedback, didnt hear so much negativity on them elsewhere. Btw. how would you compare Avata 2 to Avata 1 with Axis Flying 3.5 kit?
I use the goggles 2 everyday, so I immediately noticed that they kind of cheaped out on this new ones, I understand the marketing move but still see that they spent the money on useless stuff, that's why I'm sad
Axisflying kit flies much better but has less battery and of course less image quality unless you put a naked GoPro
@@Rimzler Thanks a lot for honest feedback, really appreciated.
Good honest review. I can't argue with anything you said other than I don't have a big of a problem with the new goggles. If DJI make the old goggles compatible with the avata 2 I will try them both and see which works best in work situations. I didn't get the FPV remote 3 yet - hoping DJI will make the remote 2 compatible eventually, or make the remote 3 compatible with O3 so I can just have one remote.
I heard somewhere that they will, also holding out on remote 3 since i have the 2 and keeping fingers crossed.
Yes I really hope they give us choices, because in the end fit is personal as everyone has different head shapes, but giving options is the best way to deal with it
@@Rimzler exactly this!
i can fly easely, smooth an without any stopp an correcture. you just dont have to press the trigger that much, take it easy and you can fly smooth and under full controll... and you dont need to have your arm this high, you can fly easely seating with your arm on your leg without any stress. i like it very much. i can fly trough my apartement, trough cars, 10cm above the floor, everything pretty easy...
I don't have doubts about it, and it's even fun, but I believe DJI should have provided it as an accessory, and made the main input the usual radio, it's even easier to use, and has a higher skill ceiling, also it will translate to any other drone
What a beautiful home and environment!
Thank you! Chicken paradise 😂😂
Why are you hating the googles 3? what's the problem with those? I've been following your videos since the beginnin!!!
Because DJI changes what works and what's customizable like that, and they decide that this is what the new generation offers, I have to use them everyday and the old ones were more convenient
I wish they allowed different mounting options so people could choose
Bought a cinelog35 w your code big dawg. Thanks for your videos. GEPRC is terrible at communication so far, but we'll see. Thanks again, bro.
Great and honest review, I agree with everything you said, I got the drone yesterday and the motion controller is pretty useless. Its only good for marketing. makes you look cool. but in reality the Remote controller is the way to go. The new goggles are just bad. They hurt pretty bad and make you sweat a lot.... I'll keep looking for aftermarket accessory for it. as this thing is almost unbearable
Thank you and I'm glad you agree! Maybe some mods will come out but will require disassembling and probably rewiring, maybe the electronic fits in the old integras?
@@Rimzler i'm not hoping for anything crazy, just a foam that makes it easier to wear, the extra pad that comes with the goggles for the forehead does help a little bit. but it's not enough. Maybe a memory foam replaces the silly rubber just so it doesn't hurt my nose and stop light leaks... the current silly rubber is not even good enough for testing. let alone a long flight. I can't imagine myself wearing this goggles for 3 full batteries....
Bro your property looks amazing!
Thanks, it was an ancient vineyard, some ancestor of mine got gifted it by the local nobles and here I am chasing chicken on it😂😂😂
great review.. I have been watching some reviews now, and after they all talked about that easy acro mode as if it was super useful, or even a godsend, i was like pff... how is that not a gimmick!? I was glad to finally see someone burning it to the ground.
Anyway, i do still think that the head tracking in combination with the motion controller (and gyroflow) might allow us to make shots that weren't easy to do before. I'm curious how that plays out with some training.
Head tracking with motion controller makes you feel like you are in a cockpit of an aircraft. Very intuitive if you ever used vr or head tracking in a simulator or piloted an actual plane.
Easy acro is a gimmick.
Amazing how this kit is about 400 bucks cheaper than the avata 1 + fly more kit. I paid around 1600 bucks for my avata 1 and fly more kit
Yeah they compromised on a few things like the goggles ahahahah
Death Roll yaw washout improved at least… hmm, I had the avata 1, and it was a dangerous drone, because of the yaw washout. This seems to be a little bit better, maybe I will try it. Thank you very much for this review
You give encouragement to "pilots" thinking about going into "manual" mode. Thanks.
I may need to make a video teaching people how to approach it!
great video thank you!! 'where are the chickens when I need them!!' haha! I have the mini 4 pro and avata 2, both amazing drones for different situations!!
Probably the best essential but do everything setup right there, especially for traveling
yeah I wanna get the iFlight Nazgul Evoque F5 to complete my drone family though :)
Thank you man! This is review that I looking for :)
Thanks for the honest review ! Gets rid of my fomo 😂 Liked and subbed .
Thank you so much! I suggest waiting a bit to see what's compatible and what not, and make a pondered decision☺️
Love the wisteria plant! Great review of course as well :)
I love the area you live in! Thanks for the video!
Yeah and cause of the strong wind I didn't fly over the canyon too much, but yeah it's very cool morphology
Hey man! Can You make a cinewhoop suggestion video instead of Avata 2? xD With the O3 unit and hopefully O4 in the future. What would you recommend to build or buy pre-build. I dont know if you had a video like that for the Avata 1, if not, it'd be great to see something like that.
You need Cinelog 35 v2 have a look
Best tester of fpv on YT. Thanks for the good recommendations and honest reviews. "Where are the chickens when I need them"😂
Ahahahahahah the chicken are the golden standard for benchmarking drones at this point
@@Rimzler so true heheh
100%
I have a feeling DJI will soon bring out the Avata Pro, purely for FPV.
I really really hope ahahaha
Nice review. Thank you for FL.
Thanks!☺️☺️☺️
For those people who wear glasses everytime, will the fpv goggle prevent them from trying it?
I mean, myself really wants to feel the drone pov but i need to wear my glasses because i can't see without them
They provide some lens holders, you have to get the lenses custom made
Hey mate, my avata 2 arrived today. Set everything up but was disappointed from the M Mode, can’t even to a split S in manual mode. Do you have a rates recommendation?
Nevermind, overseen the checkbox with the orientation limit lock
Daamn you got me worried, yeah they have a few layers of safety, that's great to learn I think!