Martin Strikes Back At House of the Dragon Condal & Writers | Defending George From Pathetic Attacks
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- George RR Martin kept his promise and blogged some of his complaints about how Ryan Condal, Sara Hess and the writers unfaithfully adapted his Dance of the Dragons story from Fire and Blood. After HBO intervened he pulled his blog. The link to an archived version of the blog, "Beware of the Butterflies" though is below.
Martin's Blog Criticizing Condal and House of the Dragon: web.archive.or...
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Some people's brains broke to back the show over the guy that wrote the book.
GRRM not liking it doesn’t mean others can’t.
Maelor erasure is the symptom of a larger issue. If Condal understood the story he was adapting he would understand that the changes he made ruined the narrative.
Just imagine, he made them look like hacks, and a writer friend of Martin said that this blog was the mildest criticism of the show that he's told him.
No way they were gonna let him do a series of posts , especially after he spoiled season 3, that’s why I wish he put it all in one post or publish them all at once before hbo got a hold of him
Yeah it was a long post too, and what's crazy is that it was only on the first episode. To cover everything would be the size of a Dunk and Egg novella. Too bad he just didn't at least include bullet points at the end for the other problems.
Clear sign George is going to war. In the opening clip he traded in his signature fisherman's cap for a new hat type. lol
Alicient's green dress ahh move
He didn't tho, he deleted what he wrote and backed off.
sadly, season 3 will suck because of what they've established in season 2. Character arcs butchered, some to the point of no return.
Alicent was the worst of them all, turning on her entire family and asking Rhaenyra to run away with her.
I think GRRM knows he’s partially responsible for D&D messing up GOT since he didn’t finish the books and that’s why he wasn’t as angry as he is now. Condal and Hess on the other hand have no excuse. Fire and blood is finished.
I think that's part of it too. In that full interview he did from the opening clip I used, he commented on his biggest regret being not finishing it yet. So it's on his mind. There was material that Dan and Dave cut out from the books, but they could always counter with the fact that they had enough arcs to finish on their own, that they needed to eliminate some.
They need to get rid of Sara Hess a butcher I always thought of Ryan Condal as a Student of asoiaf an truly trusted him to do the right thing
An if you look at season 1 opening theme episode 8 on you can see Alicent children an Aegon an Healannas children we see the twins an a tiny newborn baby at the left so WHY do we see this an no Maelor in season 2
George thought the same thing about Condal. He trusted Ryan and is feeling betrayed.
I know. It was a lame excuse about the kids. We had Rhaenyra's younger children too this season. Blood and Cheese was written out for them perfectly. Yet they removed the two most critical elements, waiting in Alicent's room for Helaena, and then making her choose between the sons. Even putting aside the future importance of Maelor, who looks at that scene and says, yeah lets just take all this suspenseful, emotional stuff out.
Why would anyone back a show over its source content. Especially a show this bad. Ugh
I like how you called out the hbo shilling I been seeing and attacking George is odd . Not just supposed book readers but people who saw season 8 GOT lol. This is season 5 got all over again. See no evil hear nor evil .
During the season I noticed channels that put out their reviews right after the show ended because HBO sent the episodes to them in advance. These channels never said anything really bad about the show, except nitpicks to make it seem like they were being balanced but they never went to the real problems. I unsubscribed from one of them because the creator started attacking their viewers for leaving critical comments about the show.
There are probably more people who watch the show than read the book.
But I can tell you for sure that more people who read the book liked it than people who like the show.
I've noticed a lot of non book readers called this season boring. I was too frustrated by the deviations from Fire and Blood to be bored. I think their reaction is largely due to the story not progressing very much in Season 2.
That's why he should be writing The Winds of Winter instead of focusing on making TV shows deals.
The writers kinda forgot the only reason people watch GoT or HotD is Martin's books.
Thank you for the refreshing and based take.
I applaud George for voicing his thoughts. The world and story are his babies and how GOT ended is the last thing he probably wants with HOTD. He wants to hold HBO and the screenwriters accountable.
He sold it. It's theirs. The cashier doesn't get angry after I drank the milk I just bought, he needs to keep his lazy behind quiet.
The new trend of George’s adaptations is to have half the show be fantastic, and the other half be slop. Though I'm sure many will argue over the half-half ratio.
I never would've thought I'd come to appreciate the 4 great seasons Dan and Dave gave us of GoT, after the second half was screwed up so badly, until these people came along and could only do one good season.
What this means for the future? People are not gonna pay any subscriptions for 8 episodes of a serie what end in a cliffhanger where we need to wait two years for the next 6 and maybe if we are lucky 8 episodes.. We gonna enjoy it from the pirate websites and HBO is gonna feel it financially in the long run.
Yeah it doesn't help that they have two seasons left of this mess. At least if it was one, we could get that over with and then move onto another series with people more committed to being faithful to his writing.
HBO is hurting the franchise by covering for House of the Dragon. Like you said if they recognized the problems then we could have faith in future shows. They should listen to George, then shorten HotD episodes to focus on just the big moments and wrap up the series in a 6 episode season 3 and then 6 or less in the last season. Then do the right thing with the Aegon's Conquest series by following George direction with it. Instead they're all going to pretend nothing is wrong with HotD.
If the audience plummets on House of the Dragon it's going to jeopardize the Conquest series. After the Season 2 mess, I'm curious to see how The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms does next year.
I'm not falling for this again. Won't be watching any other adaptation of ASOIF if HBO adapts it. My faith in it is beyond repair.
GRRM based
So he has a go at HOTD but let GOT get to the state it did without anything like as much of a divisive rant?
idk ig cause hes still dint finish the ending of GOT, so i guess the fucking it up was fine but with HOTD the book is finished and they still added unccessary shit. Could be wrong tho
@@namanbabladkar5187 you’re probably onto something there. Still, he could just get on writing the damn things couldn’t he 😂
The GoT problem has more layers to it. House of the Dragon's story was finished and they just went off on their own tangent because they wanted to, and after only one season. Game of Thrones had 4 excellent seasons. Then the quality began to go off the rails in 5. Season 6 was a bit better than 5 but not up to the level of the first 4 and then it just plummeted in 6 and 7. Dan and Dave excluded book material they could've used, so they're to blame there, and also for rushing to finish. And then of course with GoT the final books weren't finished by Martin. So both sides could conceivably point at the other one.
@@reelworld1 yeah you’ve got a good point there, thing that killed GOT properly for me was Sansa and Ramsey, completely ridiculous divergence. Still don’t think this was the hill to fight on though, maybe it’s just me, seems like other points were more valid and plenty of points in GOT to have a real problem too
@@thatveganliam5863 Everything killed GOT, they fucked up almost everything.