@@meccaharlequin2291 if you like ps5 then good for u, I prefer xbox for halo and the quick resume feature. Neither is 'better' just pick the one u want and enjoy
Cloud gaming is not the "solution" to the storage problem. I think it could help, but xcloud is not avaible in all countrys, and not everyone have the high quality interner connection required.
Agreed. The title is click-bait territory. Who thinks depending on a internet connection to stream your games vs. actual media storage is a real solution? For a second there i thought ms figured out a way not to lock everything series x to pricey proprietary ssd storage. ugh...call me when we get a real storage solution and not a video which is clickbait meant to grab viewers. Real classy what you did here brad.
@@peterkozlowski4377 I think a better compression system could be a good option. Kraken is doing well in ps5. The option you say is also a very good one, but i dont know the impacr it could have in the performance of the games.
best believe cloud gaming is the future tho. seen it before with rental stores, netflix took over and it’s the norm now, get ready for the change cause it’s coming and nothing will stop it.
@@oftheeancients.6959 Maybe, but that's not the point. Cloud gaming could be the future, but not the "solution" to the storage problem of the xbox consoles we have now.
@Ken are you being purposely disingenuous? They have quite a bit of current games on PS Now. The overall selection is better than Game Pass in my opinion.
I always thought using the cloud to change the game would be cool. For instance in Forza the track gets worn, fencing bent up, seasonal changes... then they could do “re-pavement of the track to reset things either weekly or monthly”
@@bionicbot9467 I have 100mb fibre, not impressed, latency/input lag is too much of an issue for my liking, I’ve tried nvidia cloud service and Xbox cloud service.
@@Manic.miner2077 bro what, I have 38 mb/s internet and it works perfectly with small games. just not really well with big games like halo. I'm getting 1000 mb/s fibre soon so I'll try big games then
It should be mentioned that cloud gaming uses tons of data & can be glitchey(on a wireless connection anyway). So if you plan on cloud gaming on a regular basis, you better have a truly unlimited data plan along with high enough internet speeds.
Bit to late I already got the storage upgrade. Plus why would you want to stream instead of playing a local downloaded game. So 1080p 60 stream over 4k 60?
Not waiting for the install is the biggest thing for me. Starting the download to your SSD, then firing the game up via XCloud to get past the create a character part of the game or any of the prologue stuff then once the game has downloaded to the SSD firing it up thru that.
I wanted to play a game with my friend yesterday that he hadn’t downloaded. It would’ve been nice to play with him even if he was dealing with lag. Any experience is better than no experience
@@angelG14 Depends on your connection most likely. I download games at around 250mb/sec and I don't foresee streaming taking up much of that bandwidth. Anything short of huge AAA games you should be good regardless.
@@KCGamingBuddies Rural areas around me don't even have access to internet, their only option is pretty unreliable satellite options which will throttle you to 2mb/s between 6am and 6pm.
I was hoping that they would release a different version of the xbox expansion card that costs less or make it so that you can use an external ssd that has fast enough read and write speeds to allow xbox series enhanced titles to run on them.
Give them chance they got this out day one and it's plug and play with any other Series s/X consoles, whereas PS5 owners have been waiting Nine months for storage expansion
It’s about 20 dollars more than an M.2 you would need to run series games. And it’s plug and play. Entirely reasonable imo. Of course cheaper is great but that’s dependent on memory prices in general
@@Nick-cs4oc The read and write speeds of this expansion card are about the same as a gen 3 nvme even though it is advertised as a gen 4 ssd. The cost to get a good nvme with better speeds would cost around 120 dollars max for a one terabyte drive
I bought a 5TB 2.5" WD external drive, and downloaded all my older 360 and other games on it. All games play great for it. Got the 1TB expansion, and use it and internal storage for X|S games. Did the same for my PS5. All of those "cloud gaming" games can play off of a USB external drive just fine. no need for cloud and I'd never use cloud due to more latency.
Yeah I have around 300ish games on my 4tb SSD it's just USB3 but still faster than an HDD. I have been game streaming for a long time locally in my home on my local intranet with an NVIDIA Shield and I kinda like the idea of cloud gaming but idk if it's ready yet. Plus side I have my top model Steam Deck paid for already so I'll be ready for cloud gaming when it comes
Right now there’s a partnership that’s about to end that will open the door for competition but if you look across the market there isn’t much wiggle room. This is all relatively new and awesome tech so you get what you pay for.
They will lower prices, I suspect from November as that would mean their exclusive partnership time with Seagate will likely be over so MS and can open up to other plug and play cards
Hey Brad, any idea if the memory expansion port allows (or could theoretically allow) multiple memory units to be connected at once? I realize that would require a hub of some sort though. Right now I have 2 USB HDDs plugged into a USB hub and then into my XSX. I haven't heard anybody ask MS if this is possible with their memory setup. I'm hesitant to buy the 1tb card, only to want a bigger card later, and I wont be to also use the 1tb at the same time. Thanks
@@Wimmle Simply untrue. There are separate PCIe lanes for each SSD socket. Keep in mind they're only using two lanes for each socket, whereas the more common PC designs (and PS5) supply 4 lanes. Also, it isn't a question of bandwidth if the objective is to create a larger volume at the same performance level. This would a significantly more expensive device than a simple switcher that merely made hot swapping cards more convenient but such are already widely available for PC application.
That depends on what you are hoping to achieve. A simple switchbox that allowed multiple cards to be connected and utilized one at a time would be fairly cheap. There have been myriad such devices for game console cartridges since the Atari VCS days. I had a device for PATA drives that let you have three different drives connected to your PC and changed which would be the boot volume at the press of a button. (This required shutting down and starting up again after selecting the drive, of course. But it was more transparent to the system than a bootloader menu.) A device that would take several cards and make them look like a single volume to the Xbox is easily done with existing chips already in use for PCs and servers. This however makes for a MUCH more expensive device. In 2022 the Seagate exclusive on the expansion cards will have ended and more companies will be able to enter the market and compete on price. This will also open up the market for things like smaller and larger capacity cards. A company may see a market for a 500GB card if the price is low enough. Another possibility is a device to make a more common PC M.2 2280 device usable with the expansion slot. Depending on whether latency issues can be overcome, a x4 PCIe 3.0 device could fulfill the performance specs for the Xbox Series SSDs, since they only use 2 lanes of PCIe 4.0 on the Xbox SSD sockets. This would help alleviate the cost of the RAID hardware by allowing the box to be populated with less expensive SSDs. I've yet to hear of anyone attempting this but things should get interesting as the Seagate contract expires late this year. Again, the big issue for any such device will be latency. The throughput can be there to fully saturate the connection but latency will be a huge factor for games that really depend on the SSD behaving as expected to create uninterrupted gameplay.
I live in Sydney and I use xcloud all the time. Even running mobile via Telstra. Works great. The games are heavily curated to match a realistic experience. I.e no competitive shooters etc, but Gears 5 and sea of thieves are awesome.
I've been playing cloud gaming for a couple months on Chrome on my PC and it's been nice to play some single player stuff since I can't get a Series X yet. Psychonauts 2 is so good!
So excited for this!!!!!!!! By the way just finish reading your book on Surface and it was really good. Thank you for giving us insights on the process of creating technology.
It's so fast, you don't have to wait for your save to sync. Games like Forza with 500 cars and paint in my garage takes 10 minutes to sync even though I have 100Mb/s download.
I am an Xcloud beta tester. I can say that it has come a long way from when it started. But with that said, I still wouldn't use it to play a competitive shooter. There is still input lag from time to time.
Xbox solving the storage problem would mean that they gave me an expandable SSD that's less than $220. Playing games with increased input lag and worst frame rate and worse resolution isn't worth free storage.
@FPS hector how did you not understand that? He's saying to him, a better solution would be to give a cheaper option than what they offer already... Not streaming it at 1080p, 60fps maximum, and input lag. Butttt, for last gen this is a great option. For next gen, as Sam is saying, this is not exactly what I would consider a solution. The biggest thing for me is the input lag. I can't stand it. The other thing for the majority of people is the bandwidth... If someone doesn't have unlimited bandwidth from their provider, you'll start paying your service provider extra each month.
While I think the feature is great I do not think your thumbnail title should be headed as good advice. The cloud gaming is only 1080p 60fps with latency higher than playing on local hardware. If your someone who needs more storage go get the drive don’t cut your gaming experience down to save money (not to mention this doesn’t apply to every game)
The bus is forward thinking. Though The current cards only support 2x PCIe. The bus on both storage solutions is full 4x. They need to remove the Hardware ID locks on both slots. That way 3rd parties can make adapters to mount any m.2 you want. All Gen 3 or Gen 4 PCIe NVMes can run from 1X to 4x speed
xcloud is another option and it definitely has improved.... Ive been retrying it out since last year.....way way better! Your mileage will vary though. 4 out of 5 games were totally playable. I was impressed.
Kraken what? Smaller sizes are something I hope Xbox works on because a downloaded game is better than streaming but to not have to use ANY storage space and still get to play any title, new or old whenever the urge hits you is just perfect. And for those stuck on old hardware, they also get the benefit of getting a better quality experience ( internet quality allowing it that is ) from a weaker system without having to pay for the better hardware.
The cloud gaming option doesn't help me much honestly. I live in the country and my download speeds cap out at 25mps. I feel like even if I was just trying the game out it would be a bad representation of the game due to the bad lag. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for some good 3rd party expansion packs lol
So true. Gamespass allows me to play games I never would have thought of buying. Or games I already completed. Personally I prefer to.just buy what I like and play what I want.
Does not solve it really. If you want the best game performance and res then downloading games is best. I bought 3 of the 1TB drives already and love the plug and play and reliability. Worth the money
Nice feature to try out games or drop in to friends multilayer games, but at 1080p/60 its not going to replace a installed game if you own a 55"+ 4k TV. The res is just too low.
Brad: you can only have 1.5 call of duty’s Me: has both of the last cods and 14 other games installed with 45 gbs free lol (No additional storage installed, 1tb internal)
Hi there! Thanks for the video. You are right. Game Pass makes it easy to try games that you might not be willing to buy individually. I have so many Game Pass games to play, I do not have time to buy and play other games. XCloud will make it even easier to try a game. I am very happy that Xbox is working to support cloud streaming. However, many games on Game Pass are just not that big. I would not be surprised if streaming some games for an hour uses more data than just downloading it. It might also cause problems for those of us that have data caps. About a year ago, I was playing a lot of games on Stadia and had to watch out for that data cap even though mine was 1000Gb a month. Streaming at 4k could use up to about 15 to 20Gb an hour. Unfortunately, I have not had much success with XCloud performing well. I recently tried playing Destiny 2 on my iPad using an Xbox controller connected by Bluetooth on both XCloud and Stadia. Stadia ran pretty well. XCloud had noticeably more input lag. I hope Xbox will be able to improve this. It is a great time to be a gamer!
Does the razer Kishi work on iPads? I never have an input lag issue when I use it. I do on occasion have issues with IL when I'm using bluetooth though
I've got the Seagate storage expansion and it's excellent. Talk about quality of life improvements, well that's one big one right there. More than double the space and plug n play. Cloud gaming isn't for me.
@@orielsy - so all games from now on would be determined to suck then .. ? All games suck when there is seconds of lag, does not matter what it is .. If the first impression of a game is shit graphics quality because extreme compression and massive lag .. would you buy that game ...? Probably not, and you might be missing out on an excellent game with amazing graphics. .. because you tried it on a laggy cloud solution that made it look terrible.
The playing instantly on Christmas day argument is so weak. If you wifi isn’t strong enough, and your download speeds aren’t fast enough, what makes you think your gonna have a stable cloud gaming experience?
Till (many many months later) sony do it, and then they'll start crowing from the rooftops how its so great and sony did it first. EXACTLY the same as apple fanboys when the iPhone finally gets a feature samsung has had for yers.
@@zybch Yep, PS fanboy and Apple fanboy is just the same. They will be overproud of their new feature which is already exists in other products. They are pathetic.
Cloud gaming isn’t the solution to the storage issue. It just creates another issue; needing high enough internet speed and also the fact that you’re not owning anything other than access to stream games. 🤦♂️
Good question! Flight's live data must be quite intense, but the xcloud stream only needs to send a compressed 1080p stream (plus upload controller data). I actually think it would be reasonably close. But then I don't know much of anything.
Still looks great. I was blowing my friends minds playing sea of thieves on my phone the other day. It looks fantastic. Having said that, on a console playing on a 60" panel it may be a different story. Although we are talking about a free add on to the already brilliant Gamepass.
So in fact they are NOT at all solving the storage problem .. thanks for the misleading title Brad .. Also the problem with the expansion cards is not the price .. it is the speed and the fact that their are tiny .. Them adding cloud crap does not solve that ..
This is not a real solution to the storage problem this is just cloud gaming on Xbox. This title is clickbait and makes it seem like Microsoft had unveild the other 3rd-party manufactures External Storage drives for the Xbox Series X/S that would ACTUALLY solve the storage problem on the Xbox consoles.
Well I hope they update their drivers for their wireless network card as it keeps disconnecting randomly for me despite my router being in the same room 2 meters away.
So if you have an unrealible internet connection? Where I live I have the fastest possible option but I have network connection problems every now and then. At least when you download the game I can play it.
great idea for testing games on xbox. And if you like the game u can always download it.... i just hope they give us 1h or more of gameplay for free even if you dont have ultimate or gold subscription....
Seriously? As one of the original beta testers for XCloud, Cloud Streaming IS NOT a SOLUTION to storage "problems". It is an ALTERNATIVE to buying a console or an expensive gaming rig. Heck, "unofficially" I tested XCloud on several LOW END Chromebooks with ZERO ISSUES (info sent to Microsoft). Buy a GREAT SSD for long term storage and move your X/S Enhanced games to INTERNAL MEMORY when ready to play (as I do on my X). "PROBLEM" SOLVED.
Can Microsoft also sneak in a fix for the problem that I have of not having enough hours in the day to play game pass games during the day. Very frustrating to have this huge library of games but not enough time to play them.
I would prefer if Microsoft just come out with a cloud gaming service. I don't want to pay $16.99 CAD for it. Just give me a USB stick that plugs into my monitor/TV and allows me to play Xbox cloud games only for cheaper.
As long as cloud gaming doesn't offer differnt games than regular gamepass. If AAA games are only going to be allowed on cloud gaming so people try them out and then buy them, instead of also offering them on regular gamepass, then I will drop gamepass like a hot potato.
This doesn't solve anything. It introduces a latency and input lag problem. You are also capped at 1080P. Lastly, you better hope your ISP doesn't have data caps or your monthly bill might be a not fun surprise. I do agree that this is a good opion for a quick demo test of games, but this is absolutely NOT a long term solution to the storage problem unless you live in an area with fiber optic to the home and unlimited monthly data usage.
Cloud service is not the solution for lack of storage. How does cloud service work when I don't have internet service in rural areas? It doesn't!!!! Just make external storage faster and bigger
Not a huge fan of cloud gaming. It ends up informing game DESIGN because of its limitations in latency. If cloud gaming is successful we’ll end up with less games that need fast response times. Like fighting games.
Microsoft is epic this gen thank God Phil and nadella kept the Xbox going
The problem is now like Netflix... I have so much choice I don't wanna play any
@@anotherfreetrialaccount8157 bro ikr, I have 80 games and idk what to play 😭
@@anotherfreetrialaccount8157 same somedays literally go on my xbox to decide what to play, don’t decide then turn it right back off.
Lol I have next gen consoles. . . PS5 still trumps Xbox. . . Sorry. . . My exclusives are far superior and beautiful compared to the series x.
@@meccaharlequin2291 if you like ps5 then good for u, I prefer xbox for halo and the quick resume feature. Neither is 'better' just pick the one u want and enjoy
Cloud gaming is not the "solution" to the storage problem. I think it could help, but xcloud is not avaible in all countrys, and not everyone have the high quality interner connection required.
Agreed. The title is click-bait territory. Who thinks depending on a internet connection to stream your games vs. actual media storage is a real solution? For a second there i thought ms figured out a way not to lock everything series x to pricey proprietary ssd storage. ugh...call me when we get a real storage solution and not a video which is clickbait meant to grab viewers. Real classy what you did here brad.
@@peterkozlowski4377 I think a better compression system could be a good option. Kraken is doing well in ps5.
The option you say is also a very good one, but i dont know the impacr it could have in the performance of the games.
best believe cloud gaming is the future tho. seen it before with rental stores, netflix took over and it’s the norm now, get ready for the change cause it’s coming and nothing will stop it.
@@oftheeancients.6959 Maybe, but that's not the point. Cloud gaming could be the future, but not the "solution" to the storage problem of the xbox consoles we have now.
@@oftheeancients.6959 Eventually, yea for sure 100%. But tough to say when that will be. Probably some time in the next 10 - 15 years.
Gears Tactics plays great on xCloud. Any strategy, turn-based game is excellent. I hope they bring PC games like AOE 4 on Xcloud.
MS is truly creating a Netflix of gaming. Only having to wait 10-30 secs to play any game is insane. Sony is being left behind here.
They’re still trying to figure out how to handle gamepass, now they have to keep up with xcloud too
Playstation has had this feature for close to a decade js
@@whereitsatent5362 is nowhere near the same thing lol
@@whereitsatent5362 you can only stream old games with PlayStation
@Ken are you being purposely disingenuous? They have quite a bit of current games on PS Now. The overall selection is better than Game Pass in my opinion.
I always thought using the cloud to change the game would be cool. For instance in Forza the track gets worn, fencing bent up, seasonal changes... then they could do “re-pavement of the track to reset things either weekly or monthly”
Nah. I would rather have a higher capacity SSD. I am not into cloud gaming. But cool for those who do
I tried cloud gaming, it was a terrible experience.
@@Manic.miner2077 I tried it with good internet and it works fine
@@bionicbot9467 I have 100mb fibre, not impressed, latency/input lag is too much of an issue for my liking, I’ve tried nvidia cloud service and Xbox cloud service.
Works fine here in Australia and our internet is notoriously balls.
@@Manic.miner2077 bro what, I have 38 mb/s internet and it works perfectly with small games. just not really well with big games like halo. I'm getting 1000 mb/s fibre soon so I'll try big games then
It should be mentioned that cloud gaming uses tons of data & can be glitchey(on a wireless connection anyway). So if you plan on cloud gaming on a regular basis, you better have a truly unlimited data plan along with high enough internet speeds.
Which probably 5% of the US population actually has.
@@mog_3825 I have it but the speeds aren't the greatest when I have a gf and kids on their tablets and phones all day.
Bit to late I already got the storage upgrade. Plus why would you want to stream instead of playing a local downloaded game. So 1080p 60 stream over 4k 60?
Not waiting for the install is the biggest thing for me. Starting the download to your SSD, then firing the game up via XCloud to get past the create a character part of the game or any of the prologue stuff then once the game has downloaded to the SSD firing it up thru that.
I wanted to play a game with my friend yesterday that he hadn’t downloaded. It would’ve been nice to play with him even if he was dealing with lag. Any experience is better than no experience
@@angelG14 Depends on your connection most likely. I download games at around 250mb/sec and I don't foresee streaming taking up much of that bandwidth. Anything short of huge AAA games you should be good regardless.
@@jubei20111 i still cannot fucking believe this, we got bloody 4mb/s or 32mbps over here in the uk still
@@KCGamingBuddies Rural areas around me don't even have access to internet, their only option is pretty unreliable satellite options which will throttle you to 2mb/s between 6am and 6pm.
I was hoping that they would release a different version of the xbox expansion card that costs less or make it so that you can use an external ssd that has fast enough read and write speeds to allow xbox series enhanced titles to run on them.
Give them chance they got this out day one and it's plug and play with any other Series s/X consoles, whereas PS5 owners have been waiting Nine months for storage expansion
It’s about 20 dollars more than an M.2 you would need to run series games. And it’s plug and play. Entirely reasonable imo. Of course cheaper is great but that’s dependent on memory prices in general
@@Nick-cs4oc The read and write speeds of this expansion card are about the same as a gen 3 nvme even though it is advertised as a gen 4 ssd. The cost to get a good nvme with better speeds would cost around 120 dollars max for a one terabyte drive
I’d read the exclusive contract with Seagate is ending soon so hopefully there will be some competition coming along which should lower prices.
Thank you so much for promoting. More people need to talk about this.
Bro what the date of release this X cloud exactly?
I bought a 5TB 2.5" WD external drive, and downloaded all my older 360 and other games on it. All games play great for it. Got the 1TB expansion, and use it and internal storage for X|S games. Did the same for my PS5. All of those "cloud gaming" games can play off of a USB external drive just fine. no need for cloud and I'd never use cloud due to more latency.
Ye I did that too
Yes but when they start doing it for next gen games it would make a difference.
Yeah I have around 300ish games on my 4tb SSD it's just USB3 but still faster than an HDD. I have been game streaming for a long time locally in my home on my local intranet with an NVIDIA Shield and I kinda like the idea of cloud gaming but idk if it's ready yet. Plus side I have my top model Steam Deck paid for already so I'll be ready for cloud gaming when it comes
They should just try to lower the price of the SSD.
Right now there’s a partnership that’s about to end that will open the door for competition but if you look across the market there isn’t much wiggle room. This is all relatively new and awesome tech so you get what you pay for.
the price will decrease over time 100%
i bought mine for 160 🤷♂️
Spare a fault for PS5 owners who have had NO Storage card upgrade option whatsoever for NINE Months!,
They will lower prices, I suspect from November as that would mean their exclusive partnership time with Seagate will likely be over so MS and can open up to other plug and play cards
Hey Brad, any idea if the memory expansion port allows (or could theoretically allow) multiple memory units to be connected at once? I realize that would require a hub of some sort though. Right now I have 2 USB HDDs plugged into a USB hub and then into my XSX. I haven't heard anybody ask MS if this is possible with their memory setup. I'm hesitant to buy the 1tb card, only to want a bigger card later, and I wont be to also use the 1tb at the same time. Thanks
There's no bandwidth available the lanes are already split between internal/external ssds
@@Wimmle Simply untrue. There are separate PCIe lanes for each SSD socket. Keep in mind they're only using two lanes for each socket, whereas the more common PC designs (and PS5) supply 4 lanes.
Also, it isn't a question of bandwidth if the objective is to create a larger volume at the same performance level. This would a significantly more expensive device than a simple switcher that merely made hot swapping cards more convenient but such are already widely available for PC application.
That depends on what you are hoping to achieve. A simple switchbox that allowed multiple cards to be connected and utilized one at a time would be fairly cheap. There have been myriad such devices for game console cartridges since the Atari VCS days. I had a device for PATA drives that let you have three different drives connected to your PC and changed which would be the boot volume at the press of a button. (This required shutting down and starting up again after selecting the drive, of course. But it was more transparent to the system than a bootloader menu.)
A device that would take several cards and make them look like a single volume to the Xbox is easily done with existing chips already in use for PCs and servers. This however makes for a MUCH more expensive device. In 2022 the Seagate exclusive on the expansion cards will have ended and more companies will be able to enter the market and compete on price. This will also open up the market for things like smaller and larger capacity cards. A company may see a market for a 500GB card if the price is low enough.
Another possibility is a device to make a more common PC M.2 2280 device usable with the expansion slot. Depending on whether latency issues can be overcome, a x4 PCIe 3.0 device could fulfill the performance specs for the Xbox Series SSDs, since they only use 2 lanes of PCIe 4.0 on the Xbox SSD sockets. This would help alleviate the cost of the RAID hardware by allowing the box to be populated with less expensive SSDs. I've yet to hear of anyone attempting this but things should get interesting as the Seagate contract expires late this year.
Again, the big issue for any such device will be latency. The throughput can be there to fully saturate the connection but latency will be a huge factor for games that really depend on the SSD behaving as expected to create uninterrupted gameplay.
Australian Gamers: Hi Microsoft
Microsoft: Do I know you?
I live in Sydney and I use xcloud all the time. Even running mobile via Telstra. Works great. The games are heavily curated to match a realistic experience. I.e no competitive shooters etc, but Gears 5 and sea of thieves are awesome.
Solution, don’t play COD! 👍🤓
Shid
I still do
I love call of duty please don’t tell me what to do.
Cod sucks 💩💩💩🚽🚽🚽
Havnt played since they brought in jetpacks, i switched to battlefield
I've been playing cloud gaming for a couple months on Chrome on my PC and it's been nice to play some single player stuff since I can't get a Series X yet. Psychonauts 2 is so good!
Yeah but it's better to have extra storage than not in-streaming your games you're only going to get 1080p at 60 hertz
So excited for this!!!!!!!! By the way just finish reading your book on Surface and it was really good. Thank you for giving us insights on the process of creating technology.
How will this affect quick resume, if I play a game in the cloud on my series X, Can I go to another game and switch between them?
It's so fast, you don't have to wait for your save to sync. Games like Forza with 500 cars and paint in my garage takes 10 minutes to sync even though I have 100Mb/s download.
I am an Xcloud beta tester. I can say that it has come a long way from when it started. But with that said, I still wouldn't use it to play a competitive shooter. There is still input lag from time to time.
Xbox solving the storage problem would mean that they gave me an expandable SSD that's less than $220. Playing games with increased input lag and worst frame rate and worse resolution isn't worth free storage.
@FPS hector how did you not understand that? He's saying to him, a better solution would be to give a cheaper option than what they offer already... Not streaming it at 1080p, 60fps maximum, and input lag.
Butttt, for last gen this is a great option. For next gen, as Sam is saying, this is not exactly what I would consider a solution. The biggest thing for me is the input lag. I can't stand it. The other thing for the majority of people is the bandwidth... If someone doesn't have unlimited bandwidth from their provider, you'll start paying your service provider extra each month.
yeah, basically they're presenting this as a solution of the problem they created lol
It's not really MS fault that SSDs aren't cheap though is it?
@@originalbadboy32 you mean m.2 nvme and yeah you can find a lot of them for less than $220 in fact I bought mine around $140 back in 2019
@@yaago custom nvme drive, you forgot that bit. It's over half as long as a normal drive.
They could start doing timed trials of non-Gamepass titles via cloud gaming. Would be an excellent way to try out games before buying.
How I show my gratitude to Xbox is getting gamepass
And buying all my stuff from then
New or new from a store
Although a say....50 terabyte SSD would be stupendously awesome
I still want to be able to add a m.2 nvme ssd
While I think the feature is great I do not think your thumbnail title should be headed as good advice. The cloud gaming is only 1080p 60fps with latency higher than playing on local hardware. If your someone who needs more storage go get the drive don’t cut your gaming experience down to save money (not to mention this doesn’t apply to every game)
What would the cost be to play and /or download?
Still. I am glad i directly bought the storage expansion (with a the old xbox one x 4tb usb drive )
The bus is forward thinking. Though The current cards only support 2x PCIe. The bus on both storage solutions is full 4x. They need to remove the Hardware ID locks on both slots. That way 3rd parties can make adapters to mount any m.2 you want. All Gen 3 or Gen 4 PCIe NVMes can run from 1X to 4x speed
xcloud is another option and it definitely has improved.... Ive been retrying it out since last year.....way way better! Your mileage will vary though.
4 out of 5 games were totally playable. I was impressed.
Now, combine this with Quick Resume and I will never play a non-Cloud game again.
I haven't use that quick resume. Is it convenient 🙂
YES! Quick resume is so godly!
Kraken what? Smaller sizes are something I hope Xbox works on because a downloaded game is better than streaming but to not have to use ANY storage space and still get to play any title, new or old whenever the urge hits you is just perfect. And for those stuck on old hardware, they also get the benefit of getting a better quality experience ( internet quality allowing it that is ) from a weaker system without having to pay for the better hardware.
That pause was legendary 😂
The cloud gaming option doesn't help me much honestly. I live in the country and my download speeds cap out at 25mps. I feel like even if I was just trying the game out it would be a bad representation of the game due to the bad lag. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for some good 3rd party expansion packs lol
So true. Gamespass allows me to play games I never would have thought of buying. Or games I already completed. Personally I prefer to.just buy what I like and play what I want.
Cloud is wicked for gaming. I love playing on my phone or tablet.
Ye I just play halo 3 in school 💀
This is cool and all but, isn't their cloud hardware just a bunch of One S's? Which means you won't be streaming the Series X|S version.
Does not solve it really. If you want the best game performance and res then downloading games is best. I bought 3 of the 1TB drives already and love the plug and play and reliability. Worth the money
Nice feature to try out games or drop in to friends multilayer games, but at 1080p/60 its not going to replace a installed game if you own a 55"+ 4k TV. The res is just too low.
Brad: you can only have 1.5 call of duty’s
Me: has both of the last cods and 14 other games installed with 45 gbs free lol
(No additional storage installed, 1tb internal)
That is not the experience if you have a series s.
When are other bigger (expansion cards) coming out ? This Holiday I heard..
Hi there! Thanks for the video. You are right. Game Pass makes it easy to try games that you might not be willing to buy individually. I have so many Game Pass games to play, I do not have time to buy and play other games. XCloud will make it even easier to try a game. I am very happy that Xbox is working to support cloud streaming. However, many games on Game Pass are just not that big. I would not be surprised if streaming some games for an hour uses more data than just downloading it. It might also cause problems for those of us that have data caps. About a year ago, I was playing a lot of games on Stadia and had to watch out for that data cap even though mine was 1000Gb a month. Streaming at 4k could use up to about 15 to 20Gb an hour. Unfortunately, I have not had much success with XCloud performing well. I recently tried playing Destiny 2 on my iPad using an Xbox controller connected by Bluetooth on both XCloud and Stadia. Stadia ran pretty well. XCloud had noticeably more input lag. I hope Xbox will be able to improve this. It is a great time to be a gamer!
Does the razer Kishi work on iPads? I never have an input lag issue when I use it. I do on occasion have issues with IL when I'm using bluetooth though
What storage problem?
Microsoft needs to give the option to run any game from external disk.
Console cloud streaming doesn't really help the storage situation, while it is a nice feature, fast ssd storage is still needed.
Even through Game Pass loaded with great ganes but when is the new games coming no official announcement yet
Do you know when Facebook gaming it's coming to the Xbox console
Brad, you are so freaking fast lmao
That's what she said
I've got the Seagate storage expansion and it's excellent. Talk about quality of life improvements, well that's one big one right there. More than double the space and plug n play. Cloud gaming isn't for me.
I Completely concur with Matt McCaughen
until.the lag is completely gone, which it never will be, then cloud isn't an option for me. i'd rather buy storage
Not every game requires rapid paced controls. Also you could sample the game without installing.
@@orielsy - so all games from now on would be determined to suck then .. ? All games suck when there is seconds of lag, does not matter what it is ..
If the first impression of a game is shit graphics quality because extreme compression and massive lag .. would you buy that game ...? Probably not, and you might be missing out on an excellent game with amazing graphics. .. because you tried it on a laggy cloud solution that made it look terrible.
they could APP-V Tech and streaming the APP as you advance in the game.
The playing instantly on Christmas day argument is so weak. If you wifi isn’t strong enough, and your download speeds aren’t fast enough, what makes you think your gonna have a stable cloud gaming experience?
Well, another Xbox feature that didn't exists on PS5 means another things PS ponies will trash talking in their next narrative.
Till (many many months later) sony do it, and then they'll start crowing from the rooftops how its so great and sony did it first. EXACTLY the same as apple fanboys when the iPhone finally gets a feature samsung has had for yers.
@@zybch Yep, PS fanboy and Apple fanboy is just the same. They will be overproud of their new feature which is already exists in other products. They are pathetic.
Bro... That means I don't have to buy the new console like pariss said.
Xbox can even play playstation games ps1 and ps2 before ps5. What cant it do these days
@@zybch irony will be that sony use Microsoft cloud services for the ps5, so Microsoft wins either way as far as they are concerned.
Not for me. Cloud gaming is laggy, not a patch on locally stored software.
Cloud gaming isn’t the solution to the storage issue. It just creates another issue; needing high enough internet speed and also the fact that you’re not owning anything other than access to stream games. 🤦♂️
This is a problem that console Devs created then made a solution for .
Skyrim was 10GB let that sink in .
i am not so sure myself ,lot of companies have tried ,but no one has cracked the cloud gaming formula.... yet at least
Imagine the latency and inconsistent picture quality. Never an option for me.
I tried snacking on a switch game, it didn’t go well.
I’d keep competitive and fast paced games on my internal storage and play immersive story mode games using xcloud
What about Xbox talk about there streaming service on TV coming soon?????
This really could change generations and it sounds like we may see additional enhancements down the road. Excited to see where things go.
When are they gonna have games in the BCPack they claimed to have... Im sure that would help alot!
I wonder which will use less bandwidth, flight simulator over cloud or flight sim streaming in all it’s data on max data detail setting.
Good question! Flight's live data must be quite intense, but the xcloud stream only needs to send a compressed 1080p stream (plus upload controller data).
I actually think it would be reasonably close. But then I don't know much of anything.
Cloud on my phone is great for gamepass quests on games I don’t want to download
What is your speed of your connection bro
Mi I have 10mg/s I can play games whit cloud ,
?
I'll believe it when I see it. Good day Mr. Proffitt
what did he just flash at 5:09?
Cloud may allow to play without installing but the resolution is lower
Still looks great. I was blowing my friends minds playing sea of thieves on my phone the other day. It looks fantastic. Having said that, on a console playing on a 60" panel it may be a different story.
Although we are talking about a free add on to the already brilliant Gamepass.
Spectrum cloud there won't need big storage and it can even create game on demand
So in fact they are NOT at all solving the storage problem .. thanks for the misleading title Brad ..
Also the problem with the expansion cards is not the price .. it is the speed and the fact that their are tiny ..
Them adding cloud crap does not solve that ..
For Xbox there’s a 8tb hard five for $175 it’s like almost the size of a normal Xbox one
This is not a real solution to the storage problem this is just cloud gaming on Xbox. This title is clickbait and makes it seem like Microsoft had unveild the other 3rd-party manufactures External Storage drives for the Xbox Series X/S that would ACTUALLY solve the storage problem on the Xbox consoles.
Three hours of movies needs only less than1024 bytes of 64 bits
Well I hope they update their drivers for their wireless network card as it keeps disconnecting randomly for me despite my router being in the same room 2 meters away.
Awesome news, and great video. 💯
I am still waitning that i can use cloud gaming , still cant in Luxembourg and I dont know why
So if you have an unrealible internet connection? Where I live I have the fastest possible option but I have network connection problems every now and then. At least when you download the game I can play it.
As long as they don't switch everything to streaming I'm good. This is cool but most can't do streaming very well
great idea for testing games on xbox. And if you like the game u can always download it.... i just hope they give us 1h or more of gameplay for free even if you dont have ultimate or gold subscription....
Seriously? As one of the original beta testers for XCloud, Cloud Streaming IS NOT a SOLUTION to storage "problems". It is an ALTERNATIVE to buying a console or an expensive gaming rig. Heck, "unofficially" I tested XCloud on several LOW END Chromebooks with ZERO ISSUES (info sent to Microsoft). Buy a GREAT SSD for long term storage and move your X/S Enhanced games to INTERNAL MEMORY when ready to play (as I do on my X). "PROBLEM" SOLVED.
But xCloud is not available worldwide so some still need to buy extra storage
Can Microsoft also sneak in a fix for the problem that I have of not having enough hours in the day to play game pass games during the day. Very frustrating to have this huge library of games but not enough time to play them.
The 1TB goes for $219 now a days.
I wish I could find that background on his tv
its a screenshot from the series s ad
We need to know the real time fps when we use the cloud gaming.
First upload gang before the mistake edited out and the video gets reuploaded ;)
I would prefer if Microsoft just come out with a cloud gaming service. I don't want to pay $16.99 CAD for it. Just give me a USB stick that plugs into my monitor/TV and allows me to play Xbox cloud games only for cheaper.
As long as cloud gaming doesn't offer differnt games than regular gamepass. If AAA games are only going to be allowed on cloud gaming so people try them out and then buy them, instead of also offering them on regular gamepass, then I will drop gamepass like a hot potato.
XBOX is killing it this generation. 👍🏿
This doesn't solve anything. It introduces a latency and input lag problem. You are also capped at 1080P. Lastly, you better hope your ISP doesn't have data caps or your monthly bill might be a not fun surprise. I do agree that this is a good opion for a quick demo test of games, but this is absolutely NOT a long term solution to the storage problem unless you live in an area with fiber optic to the home and unlimited monthly data usage.
Cloud service is not the solution for lack of storage. How does cloud service work when I don't have internet service in rural areas? It doesn't!!!!
Just make external storage faster and bigger
name a better comeback
I like my good old physical media that I really own! But if you like this kind of thing cool too!
When will cloud gaming come to Australia and people with console's
It’s a really cool usage
I was hoping it was about 3rd hardcover support
The most fun I had cloud gaming was with Dragon Quest 11. Most turn based games do well with streaming.
Not a huge fan of cloud gaming. It ends up informing game DESIGN because of its limitations in latency. If cloud gaming is successful we’ll end up with less games that need fast response times. Like fighting games.