How to Install GFCI Outlet (4 Wires)
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How to install, replace gfci gfi outlet in the kitchen, bathroom or in the garage.
I SPENT COUPLE OF DAYS trying to figure this out!! I thought might be a short in any of the outlets in that circuit, but NONE! THANKS for helping me learn to determine the LOAD SIDE, and the LINE SIDE!! That's the KEY TO THIS. I switched the wires and BINGO! SHE CLICKED just like she should!! THANKS AGAIN!!
If you have four wires going into your GFCI you need to watch this video. Fought this problem for four hours before watching this video. Then changed wires and boom problem solved!
Yeah I agree.
4 wires AND the ground wire [for us stupid people]
Thank you so much. Spent 2 hours looking at other videos before this one
Glad it helped
Same here
Thanks for posting this I've replaced GFCI's before, but I just put the wires in the same order, I put two new GFCI's in a bathroom that were just plugs and couldn't get them to work. Thanks for the informative video. Problem solved!
Big thanks! Several mysteries cleared up for amateur first try at this.
Great to hear!
Thank you!
6 videos it took me to show the pins to release the wires from the old outlet. You are a rock star for not skipping the stupid stuff!
Thank you!
Anyone ever done a 5 wire GFCI?
May need to do gfci breakers?
Thanks to this video, I was able to trouble shoot why the newly replaced outlet wasn't working or resetting.... THANK YOU!
One of the best videos i've watched so far
Best gfci video by far. Good work.
Thanks, First connected ground wire - main rule
Nice touch with the level👍. Learned something about silver and brass screws
Best video.
Thank you. Great video and simple to follow
An installer likely would not know where the Load wires go downstream. You should verify that by tripping the GFCI and see which receptacles or switches on this circuit have been affected. Then place the sticker "GFCI protected outlet" on those receptacles and switches. This will alert a user to check the GFCI first if one of those devices does not have power, and is safe to use in a location where water may be present. Normally GFCI and protected outlets are found in kitchens, bathrooms, laundry rooms/garages, and outside. Those areas are going to be on 20 amp circuits and a 15 amp GFCI receptacle as shown, is acceptable by code.
thank you sir.. very well explained.
Always test after the install. I had a GFCI of the same brand and the outlets on the face of it were wired backwards resulting in a Hot Neutral, with all downstream outlets presenting correct polarity. Never seen that before. That Chinese kid that made it must have been that day. Always verify your work.
Thanks dude 🤙🍺
THANKS MASTER 😊
Thanks this helps alot
Thank you
thank you , well explain.
Very helpful. Thanks.
Is that ground coming from the load side? And not the line side? Meaning there is no equipment ground on this receptacle and any others downstream?
it's pigtailed
Remote Electrician Hi im Jon! I was curious if a GFCI can work similar to breaker box? I was told at Menards by a Professional in Electrical once being encouraged to get a GFCI Receptical as they say its a all in one and will not only protection against ground faults but also for shorts and lose wires on extension cords or faulty electronics plugged into a GFCI or even lightning spikes and surges of power to not only protect your devices from getting damaged but also from being zapped. I have a neighbor friend who is a Electrician that is making a special junction boxed extension cord using thick heavy duty outdoor extension cord and then every few feet i have a metal junction box and series of electrical outlet junction boxes down the cord and the first outlet is where a GFCI is getting installed and then the rest of the outlets down the extension cord is going to be regular standard outlets but protected by the GFCI and then the extension cord is getting plugged into a power strip that has a built in Circut breaker and a surge protector in it. I did not tell my Electrician neighbor friend that part that i am plugging it into a power strip that has a built in circut breaker and surge protector in it but thats probably alright as then it will have everything for sure together a all in one. I think that will all be alright together don't you?
Hi Jon yes u can use gfci/afci on a regular breaker. nowadays there're breakers that have built in gfci/afci as well
Something that always seems to confuse people. Line is for the set of wires that is hot. Load is the set of wires that are not hot.
I needed that thanks
What happen to the ground wire on the load
I have three sets of wires coming out my outlet. I'm easily able to tell black (hot) wire coming from the panel, but the tester doesn't work on any white wire because they do not have any power flowing through them when all the wires are out. Is there any way to be able to tell the neutral (white) wire that is coming from the panel other than guessing? I'm not able to determine the white/black pairs just by looking since they are not really paired together in my outlet
you should be able to tell if you measure the voltage with voltmeter or just do continuity test on other 2 loads
Look at the stuffing tube they came out of in the back
VERY WELL EXPLAINED!
Good stuff, but why would one want a GFCI box when not near water like a bathroom or kitchen?
different states different codes. garage, outdoor outlets need to be gfci as well
Does that need a spark ring or tape?
great question.
I normally tape it.
but if box is bit deep I go with spark ring/box extender (wood, tile, metal box, drywall doesn't matter)
So does the line side come from box and load goes to light or switch
line comes from the panel your homerun, load is outlet(outlets) that is being protected by that gfci
I noticed that the load wires was coming out on top of the hole the other wires on the. Bottom.But you hook the bottom wires on the load side.You hook all the wires opposite then what you said.
no, I did not know before I tested with power tester which pair was the line. you may have missed that part.
Could not see what tool you were using on your second power check. Also did not see how you made sure which of the blacks was load before screwing down. Otherwise liked your pace and other clarity.
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Hi Great video - I followed your every step, but the outlet trips after 15-20 seconds and I'm not sure why...Please HELP!!!
double check the wiring and check the wiring on the load side other outlets that it may be feeding you may have short circuit. in rare cases faulty gfci outlet
THANKS FOR SHARING
I did the same installation, but one of my neutral white wire was hot in respect to earth ground, I tried different combinations, but no luck, I kept getting fixed green light, with fast blinking orange light.
How was it wired before you removed the old one? sometime other circuit may use same box as junction box, especially old built homes
@@remoteelectrician thanks, this circuit is outside on my balcony, the old outlet had one black wire, but it was looped around one screw, and so was the white one, I later found out that they fed an outlet on one of the bedrooms, but when I replace the outlet the first time with the gfci , I kept the wire the same way, looped, but that didn’t work, so I cut both the black and white wires, I determined the black hot by measuring from black to earth ground/green wire, but then, when I measure white to earth ground, one end of one white wire was measuring 120v from that wire to ground, not the other white one, and the black, only one measure 120v to ground, I don’t know why white/neutral to ground would measure any voltage, so I ignored it, and placed my hot black to line input on the gfci, and white hot to the opposite, then I put the other black down to the load, and the other white to the other side, but same problem, I even tried switching the whites, but no luck, then I switched the blacks, and no luck either, this is an old condo building, built in the 70’s, I also tried putting one of those gfci under the sink, and no luck either, I had to put the old one back, those things are very sensitive. Thanks for the respond.
yea with old homes wiring it takes time to figure out what they did, so many things are not up to code. You’ll need on-site electrician to troubleshoot the circuit for u.
My outlet 15 amp ,May i replace 20 or 25 amp GFCI Outlet sir ?
install whatever your breaker is rated for if 20 then 20 if 15 then 15. (there's no 25amp gfci)
I had actually replace a gfci outlet that makes a loud sound when tripped with a plug tester I payed attention to where the wires were at detached the line to wire into the new gfci(with usb plugs and uses pigtails) then wired the ground then when I wired the load I removed the wire nuts on it to attach it using wago 221 lever nuts
you bought that type that makes that sound when tripped. it should have speaker label somewhere on faceplate
@@remoteelectrician no the old gfci makes loud sound when tripped with a plug tester that’s the test reset mechanism and it dosent sound right!
What happened if I connect the 2 black wires together and the 2 white wires also together? That is the only way my GFCI works I need help please
you need to define line and load, 1 pair is your line and usually 1 pair is load. but sometimes yes its connected to line all 4 wires but in that case that gfci protecting itself not the other device where other pair is going
What if there’s a black and red and they are both hot from the downstream side
usually when there's 2 hot lines one is switches. but its for regular duplex outlets not gfci. what circuit is it? living room? bath? bed?
So, which was the load and which is the line? Please explain.
line is pair that has power feeding that gfci
Where did you purchase that fancy screwdriver?
I've had it for 10 years now. you can search on Amazon, mine is greenlee brand
Thank you and keep up with the videos, they help me quite a bit.
@@Unclefrankie34 thank you.
What would cause the reset button not to reset on the GFCI (brand new)? Pushed all over it but its not resetting. Also why would the little green light on the gfci be on but no power going to my electronics? Thank you
Nevermind.. figured it out... Great video..
Is it ok to install a 15amp gfci if your breakers are 10amp?
technically no. you can upgrade the breaker "if" wire is 14 gauge to 15 amp.
@@remoteelectrician I just realized I have a 15amp gfci not 10. Since my breaker is a 20amp would it be ok to use it being that it’s under the amp amount?
A little off subject. Should a GFCi receptacle be warm to the touch? Without anything plugged into it, it is warm to the touch and concerns me that it may be bad and headed for trouble. I replaced it about 10/12 yrs. ago. It has repeatedly tripped when a hair dryer is used, even on low setting. Lately it is tripping without anything plugged directly into it and I can't find what is making it trip. Does it sound as if just needs repalacing? I hope I did not derail your postings. :)
it can be if you have other outlets on the load side of that gfci which is feeding those outlets
I tried changing one in my bathroom that didn’t have gfci and lights up solid red. Test and reset don’t do anything to the light
make sure ground wire doesn't touch any terminals/neutral/hot wires
@@remoteelectricianI checked all the wires and everything was fine. Used another new one and it works as expected. Thanks for the video and reply!
If the circuit has other load devices other then outlets such as lights then it could be considered not a GFI circuit. Also the GFI should be a beginning of circuit run.
of course many scenarios out there. this video is a basic how to do, not a dive into every senario
Im replacing one 4 cables but both are load? So what now?
no every outlet that has 4 wires has line and load. power/line comes from other outlet and go to the next one. like chain. in your case u should maybe locate the gfci first if both wires don't have power. (and install there just a regular outlet) if u don't understand what I'm saying hire professional
what about splicing in a ground wire for the load. It's pretty unsafe and against code without ground going to downstream receptacles.
do it, what's the problem? in my case it's pigtailed already. everything metal, built with commercial code.
Boy this is going to be challenging for me...lots of wires.
it can be done, if not confident hire professional
All connected, green light on, but still appliance will not work when in outlet? What could be wrong?
what appliance? plug into other gfci if doesn't work you have an issue with appliance
I am having the same problem. The green light on the GFCI outlet is on. However, I have plugged lamp and phone charger in; neither work. Push button test doesn't work either
@@m.edwards7591 check if line and load wires reversed
@@remoteelectrician Thank you.
@@remoteelectrician Holy smokes! It worked! I had same problem. Green light. Plugs no work. My outlet is not on a switch. Plug in my lamp it not work. I do not have pro testing tools. So I switched the black and white wires top to bottom and bottom to top and presto it worked. So I have a big question. I copied the wire positions exactly from my old non-gfci outlet. So why did that not work?
What if you don’t have ground
no problem, most old homes don't. it'll still work
You can put GFCI that has 4 wires no ground and connect to the other outlet?
if u don't have ground you can still install it, it should still trip
I don't want any more GFI, in my kitchen. The electrician installed 3 of them. Its caused problems. I only needed 1 installed near the sink socket. Soon I will purchase a receptical that is residential commercial. And I won't ground. Am tired of it controlling my other receptors. Am tired of these trippumb every other week. Scares me, I'll be in flames!
Well, You may have hired wrong electrician
Thank you. Great video and simple to follow