Why Was There a Ukrainian State in the Russian Far East?
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- Green Ukraine (Zelenyi Klyn; Зелений клин, Zakytaishchyna) was a short-lived Ukrainian state that existed in the Russian Far East in the years of the Russian Civil War. In the years before the Russian Revolution Ukrainian settlers had moved to the region and after the October Revolution of 1917 Iurii Hlushko (“Mova”) proclaimed a Ukrainian state. First it sought union with the Ukrainian National Republic (UNR; a.k.a. Ukrainian People's Republic; UPR), but later went for full independence. The state would be dissolved in the early 1920s and would make way for the communist-oriented Far Eastern Republic that would be dissolved also.
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- The Vanquished, Why the First World War Failed to End, 1917-1923 (Robert Gerwarth).
- Historical Dictionary of the Russian Civil Wars, 1916-1926 (Jonathan D. Smele).
- The Russian Civil Wars, 1916-1926, Ten Years That Shook the World (Jonathan Smele).
- bigthink.com/strange-maps/ukr... (20-02-2023).
- neweasterneurope.eu/tag/green... (20-02-2023).
- uahistory.com/topics/famous_p... (20-02-2023).
- www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/r... (20-02-2023).
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They don't get alot of attention.
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The purpose of the government is to profit of the people using laws, taxation , services and more .
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Human farms have many administration methodology, some more efficient, the purpose don’t change only how they rule , politics is a tool to create obedience at the lowest cost posible .
Human are not free , human are always slaves , citizenships is just the the legal link to legitimize the power of the elite ,private people over you , in democracy they use the fantasy you have choice , you don’t as all is control behind doors , you only chose the puppet that give the mirage of freedom.
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So call freedom fighter at the top are just tool of many secret society who have a direct alliance with hell , you hear me right .
This world is a farm of human souls , behind government are the real non human spiritual realms , who rule by proxy .
I am giving you the terror of the truth , most human can’t and won’t allow the assimilation of a truth so terrifying.
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@@johnnyfives5416 Perhaps one day!
@History Hustle It must be admitted that there was a civil war in Ukraine, and that Turchinov and Poroshenko started the conflict and they must be imprisoned for this together with Bolton and Nuland, it must also be admitted that European leaders provoked Ukraine and entered into the Minsk agreements knowing that they will not comply, for this lie Merkel and Hollande must also go to jail.
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8. US responsibility for coups and wars in the Middle East and Africa.
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10. The presence of plans for a change of power in Russia and its political destruction.
Hello from Sakhalin. There are many Ukrainians here, but most of them are assimilated, around 5% of the population still is Ukrainian and I'm one of them.
Thanks for sharing this!
Do you support the war ?
@@Anonym.sghwbdv no, I don't. My russian friends don't support it either.
Maybe one day we can have peace, but only with our Green Ukraine people
Wow. In Ukraine proper we learned about you guys on literature lessons (there is a story called tiger poachers about Ukrainian in far-east during Stalin period). But that's pretty much all :(
My grand-grandfather was a Ukranian who moved from Poltava region to Amur during the Stolypin reforms. There were many Ukranians like him in the region, sadly now only surnames and some odd local words borrowed from Ukranian language remain. Most Ukranians there assimilated completely.
Sure just like most russians in ujrain.. Have been assimilated diring the soviet period.. Pre soviet peripd no cities had a ukrainian majority. While pre revolution russian cities like astrakhan were mostly ukrainian cities.. The populatipn of the russian empire was alittpe more complex that people see things
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 funnily, Astrakhan is where my father hails from. It had never had a Ukranian majority, I think you are mixing it up with Kuban region where Ukranian cossacks settled in 18th century. Volga delta had some nomadic population but was mostly settled in 18th and 19th centuries with different settled peoples living upstream - Russians, Tatars, even Volga finnic guys like Mordovians.
Most Ukranians becomes Siberians and hate banderlogs
@@Chaldon-hl6yk foget about that. Ukrainian blood never give up
@@NotRealChandlerBing Ukrainian blood - what is it? What is a specialized gene? I do not think that there is any scientific definition of "Ukrainian blood" except for certain haplogroups, but it is unlikely that they somehow affect behavior. People everywhere assimilate regardless of nationality, especially if they have little opportunity for generations to maintain their culture, as was the case in Russia. As a result, we see that a significant part of the Ukrainian population, who once moved to the Kuban and other regions of Russia, is now almost completely assimilated and considers himself Russian. If you look at the names of many people who support the war in Russia, you will unfortunately see many Ukrainian surnames. Sometimes it is very strange to watch people with surnames like Shevchenko or Tarasyuk claim that "the Ukrainian nation does not exist." It's so strange that it's even unpleasant to look at it all. Propaganda works for everyone.
I am very glad you covered this topic. It is very important part of Ukrainian history.
Thanks for watching.
@@HistoryHustle there was a video about a state like this in the Russian far east but it was polish instead i think it was called jaxi during Russian imperial times
@History Hustle It must be admitted that there was a civil war in Ukraine, and that Turchinov and Poroshenko started the conflict and they must be imprisoned for this together with Bolton and Nuland, it must also be admitted that European leaders provoked Ukraine and entered into the Minsk agreements knowing that they will not comply, for this lie Merkel and Hollande must also go to jail.
KHARKOV is a Russian city! It was founded in the 1630s. Little Russians who fled from the Poles from the right bank of the Dnieper settled there. Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich built a fortress there and founded the Kharkov Voivodeship in 1656.
SUMY - founded by Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich no later than 1655. The tsar allowed the Little Russian refugees, who were killed by the Poles, to settle there.
POLTAVA - was in the XVII century the center of pro-Russian-minded Little Russia. For this, the traitor hetman Vyhovsky (something like the current Klichkov and Yatsenyukov) attacked the city and sold its inhabitants into slavery to the Crimean Tatars.
DNEPROPETROVSK - founded by Empress Catherine II in 1776 and was called Yekaterinoslav.
LUGANSK - founded in 1795, when Empress Catherine II founded an iron foundry on the Lugan River. To work on it, immigrants from the central and northwestern provinces of Russia came to live in Lugansk.
KHERSON - founded by Empress Catherine II in 1778 for the construction of the Russian fleet. The construction was carried out by Potemkin.
DONETSK - founded by Emperor Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of a metallurgical plant in Yuzovka.
NIKOLAEV - founded by Empress Catherine II in 1789. At this time, Potemkin was building the ship "Saint Nicholas" there.
ODESSA - founded by Empress Catherine II in 1794 on the site of a fortress built a little earlier by Suvorov.
CHERNIGOV is one of the oldest Russian cities, it existed at the beginning of the 10th century. In 1503 he became part of Russia. In 1611, the Poles destroyed it and took this territory from the Russians. But in 1654 Chernigov returned to Russia and since then has always been its integral part.
SIMFEROPOL - founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built by Potemkin on the site of Suvorov's military camp and next to the Tatar settlement.
SEVASTOPOL - founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built earlier by Suvorov. Built the city of Potemkin.
MARIUPOL - founded in 1778 by Catherine II. She settled Greeks there - immigrants from the Crimea.
KRYVOY RIG - founded by Catherine II in 1775. And it received its industrial development, as the base of metallurgy, in Soviet times.
ZAPORIZHIA - founded by Catherine II in 1770 and was called Aleksandrovsk.
KIROVOGRAD - was founded in 1754 by the Russian Empress Elizaveta Petrovna as a fortress to protect the southern borders of the Russian Empire from the Tatars. It was called Elisavetgrad. what does Ukraine have to do with it?
@@ljoe7038i never asked for this
Really interesting topic Stefan, thank you!
I had no idea. This type of history makes this channel so valuable. Well presented , sourced , and interesting. I have no idea how I would have come across this history before . Cheers stephan , cheers open platform !
BY THE WAY , we Belarusians (Grand Litwins) had the state in region as well in 17c. do you know the name ?)
@@adamradziwill I find these ethnic enclaves fascinating. I quess coal mining could explain the Ukrianians
@@adamradziwill best of wishes to you and your people .
You have never heard it before because it's fake
@@I-Nex how’s it fake
What a bonus to get a surprise Friday video 😎. Another excellent addition to the short-loved / obscure states series!
Thank you Stefan for your research and update ✌️😊
So great, that you are highlighting this history episode.
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Hello from the Amur region. My ancestors were immigrants from Ukraine and western Russia (border with Ukraine). Many settlements in our region have the same names with Ukrainian (mainly south-eastern). And my grandmother still uses some Ukrainian words in everyday life.
Wow!! I’ve never heard of this. Great video. Thank you Stefan. 👍
Many thanks 👍
Great Video, Very Informative
I am grateful for anyone who did content like this. Because these fact are clearly forgotten by many folk and your video is the only one I can find spoken of this
Thanks for your reply.
So by russian logic, ukraine can hold a referendum to anex the "green ukraine" as it was once in a union with ukraine and has ethnic Ukrainian.
No. Because "green ukraine" is a completely different territory with dominating amount of russian population and economical, cultural and national connections to the russian nation. While Ukraine is a divided country which comprised mostly of russians (ukrainized) and just forced by nazi coverment to be a puppet state for USA aggression towards Russia. That's why US government supported state coup in 2014. And that's why Putin's words make sense (but these facts are only one of the reasons why Russia begun its S.M.O).
Ukraine can dreams all about can
@@user-py6wo6ri7q and that's why no one said a SINGLE WORD during collapse of the Soviet Union? no one cared about "poor russians" until 2014? and why did putin waited for "poor ukrainianized russians" for 8 whole years?
@@user-py6wo6ri7q didn't you watch the video that you are commenting under?
@@user-py6wo6ri7q 🤡🤡🤡
Are you aware, that there were two presidential elections in Ukraine since 2014? Besides, what Ukrainians do with their authorities, is only Ukraines internal business, not your bloody one.
What amazing & informative historical coverage of Green Ukraine in far east territory of the Russian empire ...I never heard about it 🤔 before besides other outtonomies all of them in Southern regions of Russian empire...history Hustle is a great historical coverage channel...good luck and best wishes for respectful 🙏 Sir Stefan
Damn ay never knew that existed thank you for this nice piece of history!❤️👍
I've always wondered what is that state in HOI4 and forgot to check it myself, now i know! Thanks Stefan! :)
Thank you for making this!
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as always a good job
You are doing a good job, of course I heard about the green wedge from UA-camrs in my country, but you told me more openly
Thanks for your reply.
I live here. Despite the history, everyone identify themselves as russians and speak russian language.
It’s the same with сірий клин. Although it lies on the territory of todays Kazakhstan and Siberia, the majority of Belarusian, Ukrainian and even German “deported” settlers identify as Russian.
As they should my man, it doenst matter where they ancestors came from in this case especialy all those who call themselves russian belive in the greater ideal of a russian state that symbolises what a true free spirit means
@@Silver_Prussian A slave of the slaves opens his mouth about freedom))) Lmao
@@signorasforza354 i dout you know the meaning of the word freedom or strength or sovereignty
@@anatolikalyuk ну если запрещать обучение на родном языке а всю интеллигенцию способную дать знания расстрелять то себя на вопрос о национальности все будут называть прилагательным
good video topic bro
Fascinating - I had no idea! Thanks so much for your excellent videos, Stefan 🙂
Thanks Tim.
Excellent, I never knew!
Thank you for sharing - all these factions & political interests make my little brain spin!
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Great topic!! I know that practically no one know about it!!
Great 🇺🇦👍
Thank for a video about my country!
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always wanted to know this
Great 👍
Ding Dong @ 3:37. You toy with me! Anyway, glad to see you mention Nestor Makhno, as few do when speaking of the era. Good video on an obscure topic, of which I'd like to know more. Oh, I'm curious Do you ever go on the street dressed in your outfits? Maybe you should, and make some videos. I bet there would be some great reactions from people. Take care
Thanks, nice work.. BZ.
I believe Ukraine had commemorative postage stamps of this a few years ago.
Very cool video
Thanks!
Hello from khabarovsk and tbh, ive never heard of this before
помню когда протесты начались много такого было
@@romancha9147 когда?
@@romancha9147 вы имеете ввиду прошлогодние демонстрации насчет мера хабаровска или там еще чего то?
@@normalwood7965 наверное когда фургала посадили
@Normal: thanks for watching.
Will you ever do a live stream?
Interesting 👍
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Great video!
Greetings from Kyiv;)
Did not know thank you!
Interesting if this rump state survived it probably would’ve been like a Ukrainian Manchukuo. A small state that would’ve been nominally independent but would’ve had heavy influence from Tokyo and would’ve relied heavily on them.
I don't think it was small. They controled the territories bigger than a lot of european states.
independent :))) nice joke
@@Anbopro large size but small population
@@inbuckswetrust7357 nominally. On paper it would be an independent country but in practice it would be a puppet
@@sto1238 maybe, it depends of your perspective. Nowadays it's small
thanks!
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Russia is not an empire, it is a country like Canada. The different ethnic groups of Russia are anecdotal with a very small population, their origin is tribal and nomadic, they have neither history nor created state structure nor defined national or ethnic identity and even less unified languages, c It was Russia that gave them an administrative existence, without Russia these regions almost devoid of population would have been dominated by another country. This Siberian region is the natural property of Russia, it was prospected and developed by the Russian state. Wanting to create new states from scratch would be tantamount to providing states for every Indian tribe in the United States or creating multiple states for the Australian Aborigines.
I didn’t know that in Canada the army is led by criminals with a sledgehammer and the president has usurped power
My grandparents are from far-east ukrainan village. Their parents were from Chernigov.
Your students are lucky to have you sir
😁👍
incredible
I know!
I seen this state pop up in HOI4 and thought the game was just flipping out
lol
Hello from Khabarovsk. There are also a lot of Ukrainians here, and I am also partially Ukrainian. :D
My mom's father was born in Chernihiv Governorate in 1918, my mom's mother was born in Kursk Governorate (not Ukrainian land, but very close to it). Both of them were moved to Primorye in 1920s, after the USSR was founded. Both of them used to speak Ukrainian quite well, so my mom understands Ukrainian very well.
Nowadays, those Ukrainians who stayed in Russian Far East are completely assimilated, and, as someone said here, Ukrainian surnames and some words are the only things left.
Thanks for your reply.
Coole pet! I mean hat , cap (?) Old Ukraniën army?
Enjoyed the vid a lot👍
Greets from Grun', T.
Yes, thanks for replying.
Дякую за відео, дуже цікаво послухати з ваших уст😊
Thanks for your reply.
Great show !
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Awensome video mate i get a better understand of Ukrainian history
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Путин заканчивается на смертном одре, а путинизм продолжается без Путина. да капитализм это обычный. просто Кагарлицкому навесили иноагента за финансирование от фонда Розы Люксембург (немецкая партия "ди Линке"), вот он и плетёт словесные кружева, как истинный гуманитарий.
Travel vlogger Natasha from Natasha’s Adventures grew up in Spask, a Ukrainian Town in the Russian Far East. She’s in Georgia 🇬🇪 now.
She does a great job covering life in the Far East.
I saw a good Story about of the Russian far east from Natasha's
WAS IT ME WHO PITCHED YOU THIS EPISODE ? YOU ARE GONNA GET A LOT OF VIEWS ON THIS ! BY THE WAY , we Belarusians (Grand Litwins) had the state in region as well in 17c. do you know the name ?)
I think it was called Yellow Ukraine? I am not sure.
That’s two facts I’ve learnt today from you Stefan, the was a Ukrainian republic in the far east & mini skirts where band in Greece 👊🏻 one more episode and I’m up to date with history hustle 🫶🏻
although officially we did not have a Ukrainian state here, but we had a Far Eastern Republic, my city was under occupation then
the union didn't hold, cause they wanted to be an autonomous part of "Great Ukraine", as they called it at that time. But Skoropadskyi's idea was of One Ukraine with a central government. So, he ignored the letter from the rada of Zelenyi Klyn.
Great video!
The channel Ghost Countries also made a video about the "Green Ukraine" in the Far East. Have you seen it?
Yes I did. Used it as inspiration.
I’m Ukrainian, can speaking Ukrainian language mixed with russian words. But… I live in fucking Siberia.
Thanks for nice video
Interesting to read. Hope is life in Siberia during these times? With the conflict in Ukraine is there much tension among Ukrainians in Russia?
Yeah, thank you for covered this topic, but what "peaceful times"? We have a war since 2014. I'll take it as irony, prdt >:)
But, damn, you did a really great work!
Thanks for watching.
never knew…. 😮
Thanks for sharing. As a Chinese, I've always wondered why the far east despite geographic proximity to Asia accommodates so many Ukrainians and Jews. Now it's finally clear😀
It could be said in one short sentence: because Ukranians settled there. Clearly Ukranians with a strong sense of cultural and national awareness. Now, was that so hard to say? Still... great piece of forgotten history. To be a Ukranian... not a small thing. 😁
@@majamajeczka.4111 Щось маєш проти? Що значить "бути"? Українці зараз відстоюють себе та Європу куди більше за інших
Yes. This is an extremely interesting part of Ukrainian history!!!
Agree.
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Excellent choice of topic. I recommend Zehltorossiya or Yellow Russia as well.
@History Hustle It must be admitted that there was a civil war in Ukraine, and that Turchinov and Poroshenko started the conflict and they must be imprisoned for this together with Bolton and Nuland, it must also be admitted that European leaders provoked Ukraine and entered into the Minsk agreements knowing that they will not comply, for this lie Merkel and Hollande must also go to jail.
There are criteria you need to meet to be a state, and being an organization isn't enough
They had , territory, population and government and these are the 3 things needed for a state
@@Surryprosciuttoconpiadina proofs?
@@pc_suffering6941 watch the video again and you will see the proofs
it would have been pretty strange to have the ukrainans as neighbors here in these parts
In general, there are a lot of people in these places. From Jews to Koreans, with what different. Koreans who moved here from the state of Joseon and Sakhalin South Koreans (Sakhalin even teaches the history of Korea as part of the history of their native land)
@@DC-lg8xpactually, there are no jews - stalin hoped to get soviet version of Israel, but now they are less than 1% of population in Jewish Autonomous Oblast
Where is this guy from?
I'm Dutch.
Interesting. In Soviet Uninion there was no mentioning of the Green Ukraine or any other of the Ukrainian republics
cause its fairytale of banderlogs
Because ussr was an empire of genocide and ethnocide
I immediately thought of utopian socialist William Lane’s ‘ New Australia ‘ established in Paraguay in 1893. You can watch interviews with the descendants of the ‘ colonists ‘ online…
as a Ukrainian, i never knew about it, thank you!
Це називається "Зелений клин"
@@MBurda-nv5jb говорите уже Закитайщина)
@@mayakstudios7292 Закитайщина це типу вся расея?
Boris Kreschatitsky sounds like he had a rlly unboring life, or idk, he was russian who was in the Russian imperial army, then was in a ukrainian army in the Russian for east near China, where he then moved to china to escape war and the soviets, then France which he then experienced more war with Germans and then moved to tunis (Tunisia I think or Libya)
all those places have many different cultures/languages and the reason he moved isn't good, war, but he definitely had an interesting life I think, if he had any kids or grandkids he'd definitely have interesting stories
That's a cool flag. Current-day Ukraine needs to adopt it.
Wtf? The green dosent represent modern ukraine at all
It's not easy to be Ukrainian!
I can understand.
thanks to zelensky.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 thanks to putler
I’m from Vladivostok, there are many Ukraine originated people in Primorski Kari and many toponyms are same with the ones in Ukraine in our rural areas, however, it has never been a Ukrainian state over here…
And there was the Provisional Priamur Government in Vladivostok, under the Merkulov Brothers, which didn't fall until 1922 I think.
I live in the Russian Far East.
yes, there are a lot of people with Ukrainian origin, but they are assimilated and not even interested in their roots.
In general, the south of the Far East at the beginning of the 20th century in Russia was a kind of America of the Slavs.
Here they lived better and freer, until
before 1922 arrived.
Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing this.
Because there is some major difference between ukrainians and russian apperantly ? Those people are russian/slavic thats all that matters
@@Silver_Prussian Ukrainians never spoke about themselves as Russians. Even Don Cossacks didn’t. They would hit your face with whip if you would dare to call them Russians)
@@signorasforza354 my god you are dumb as hell, you sound like 13 year old who doesn't understand anyhting about the world while pretending he does
@@Silver_Prussian русский какой чей а не национальность
European history after WWI is so crazy eventfull but we hardly lern anythigabout it in school.all we
Ukrainian surnames are still widespread in the Primorskij Kraj.
Just have a look at the names of the governors…
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Primorsky_Krai
Thanks for sharing.
Shoigu is half-ukrainian surprise
Oh, it's one nation, we do not make difference, Ukrainians and Russian are one people. It must be admitted that there was a civil war in Ukraine, and that Turchinov and Poroshenko started the conflict and they must be imprisoned for this together with Bolton and Nuland, it must also be admitted that European leaders provoked Ukraine and entered into the Minsk agreements knowing that they will not comply, for this lie Merkel and Hollande must also go to jail.
@@Chaldon-hl6yk oh yeah from Lugansk, which is not Ukrainian.
@@ljoe7038 ??? born in Tuva, maternal relatives are natives of Ukraine.
Hey can you do a video on Zheltorossiya?
Всю жизнь на Дальнем Востоке прожил(Сахалин, Хабаровск и Владивосток) и ни разу украинцев здесь не встречал, за исключением беженцев. Видос полная шляпа. Даже Народная Республика Амурских тигров более реальна чем это(ну на крайняк Финско-Непальский союз)
I see.
@@an.4381 Ни куда они не уехали. Лол. В Хабаровске и Владивостоке до фига украинцев и фестивали регулярно проводили и всякие краеведческие мероприятия. Ванька просто как и все ваньки не знает ничего о месте где живёт))
This is new for me- I knew from my grandmother who was born in 1913 that before proclaiming the Far East as Russian territory there were living Nanaj people (it is their land) and many Chinese ( there were chinese names of towns....) and Korean people. When this land was announced as Russian, then the settlers came.
Manchurian's reaction:
Lol
They be like
Yall stole my land…
Out there near the Jewish Autonomous Oblast..another curiosity
Yes, I did cover that one a few years back.
I don’t understand if Rus people are Ukrainians, who are Russians then? I mean the name is same if you think about, and I know that Belorus is Rus also. But there was never Ukrainian state until Germans and Soviets ( communist) create one at the end of WW1. Also when I look in history books until the end of 19th century, only Serbian and Moldavian colonists are called Ukrainian, those who were settled in now they Ukraina during 18th century. How many Ukrainian people are Moldavian or Serbian origin? It is all so confusing to me.
They are Moscovits, that's the only historically correct name for modern "Russians". They were called Moscovites up untill 18 century when they got under their control moder Ukraine(old Rus' lands) and began to call themself...da-da.."russians":))
@OlehDovban Interesting, they always call them self Moscow Rus, but Novgorod also call himself Rus. Also Ivan IV was the first ruler of Moscow Rus who proclaimed himself an Tzar of Rus. But if they are not Rus, then Ukrainians are Rus, why does Ukrainians call them self borderlanders? As I understand Ukraina means Borderland on Russian, what it means on Ukrainian? If Ukrainian are Rus?
And do you now how many Ukrainian people are Moldavian or Serbian by origin, I know for writer Voynovich and actress Mila Yovovich, that are really a Serbian, but one says that is Ukrainian and other that is Russian.
As I said this thing is total mess and total confusion for me.
4:28 I don't think you will have any problem visiting the Russian Far East, even if you went there today. You can still get to Russia via Turkey or Georgia, and as easily get to the Far East as you did in 2019.
He saw Primorskaya Okraina written on a map and assumed it had a direct connection with Ukraine. Wrongly. The Russian Empire had many a places carrying the suffix/prefix KRAI in its name. Ukraine is merely one of them.
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It's important to point out that Russia was and is a country of many people's and Stalin himself was Georgian. This history and current events should not warrant discrimination against ethnic Russians
Just you wait untill he learns about Grey Ukraine
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@@HistoryHustle I should mention, there is also a region called "Yellow Ukraine" near the Volga river and "Pink Ukraine" region in the Russian Caucasus region which is even more obscure than any other Ukraine. This makes for five different Ukraines including the current country of Ukraine.
Basically, all these regions are settlement areas of Ukrainians or "Little Russians" as they were called during the Russian Empire. This settlement of Ukrainians in the eastern territories finished in 1917-1920 and that is basically the reason they exist. I guess you can call them Ukrainian colonies like some would call the entirety of Siberia a Russian colony.
конкуренция наше всё. ведь нас учили любить и прославлять конкуренцию. или ненавидеть и проклинать конкуренцию. но не учили, что конкуренция разная, и поглощения и слияния брэндов не сущностно разнится с поглощением и слиянием рынков и территорий.
Japan: Interesting
На Дальнем востоке поселенцы были не только украинцы, но и русские, а также казаки из Сибири. Доля украинцев не превышала долю остальных этносов, чтобы претендовать на национальное государство на Дальнем востоке. Мало провести собрание и что-либо заявить, если реальной власти на местах у тебя нет. А у так называемой Украинской дальневосточной республики этой власти не было, что считать их государством. В то время там хозяйничали белые, красные, японцы, но только не украинцы.
True.
I visited Russia’s far east in the mid nineties and was surprised to find many street signs named after famous Ukrainians. The city I visited was called Blagoveshensk and it had many descendants of Ukrainians but many were Russified.
Thanks for sharing!
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Because hoi4 said so
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Your the best. We disagree at times, but you're great.
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So in an alternate time line Ukraine is on the east of russia
Please watch the video.
@@HistoryHustle I did. But anything is possible
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After WWI was proclaimed Republic (!) again. Not indipendence, this was proclaimed in January 1918 and confirmed at Brest-Litovsk Peace.
His majesty Hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky was greatest of Ukrainian Liders, a Ukrainian colonel Pak (south corean dictator ~1960) but without a time for his plans...
And fan fact: Green Ukraine confirmed a loyalty to a "Great Ukraine" so it was a Dominion like Canada))) Ukraine was a Colonial Empire!!!))))
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EU4, HOI4 be like:
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O i live there
Wow this is really unknown part of Ukrainian history.
Yes.
In Sakhalin, there were only a few Japanese inhabitants and no Russian settlers, but Russian immigrants were increaseed to provoke a confrontation against Japan. Japan did not have enough money to keep Sakhalin in safe, and conceded an unequal treaty with Russia for exchanging Sakhalin with krill archiperago. In short, Sakhalin was taken by the Russian aggressors in the same way as part of Ukraine of this time.
Some of my ancestors are Ukrainians, but I consider myself Russian.
Thanks for sharing.
Ukrainians living right next to Japan. Konnichi wa ^_^
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Рофлы рофлами над такими вот историками, но они скоро будут утверждать, что теже рязанцы и новгородцы отдельные народности внутри России, натягивая сову на глобус.
Ok.
Not ukranians, neither russians live there. .. - they're Far-Easterns . (The same way, europians from different countries moving to new continent became americans. or australians, or south-africans whatever). So that's it, imho
That’s why they were speaking Ukrainian? In South Africa everybody knew their roots.
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@@signorasforza354 Well, if you kill your ancestors and take your children, for example, to the Far East and teach only in Russian and drive in your children that they are so-called Russians, then even swarthy ancestors will not help out of nowhere to know the language and roots