The History of Ukrainian Territory ua-cam.com/video/347zyCNL85c/v-deo.html Ukrainian War of Independence (1917 - 1921) ua-cam.com/video/GMxYls8ctIY/v-deo.html Ukrainian Collaboration with Germany in WW2 (1941 - 1945) ua-cam.com/video/Cll91vfc_3Q/v-deo.html Kharkov People’s Republic (2014) ua-cam.com/video/7vGtSyg3I7Y/v-deo.html
Really enjoyed this video, this is one of the only channels which covers the often overlooked side of history. I hope the current invasion will end and I hope you recover from Covid
Do you really believe that you will be able to wash away such a terrible historical stain with this kind of "answer"? No, gentlemen Petliurists, you are mistaken. You will never succeed ... When ataman Paliyenko cut out three hundred Jewish souls in January 1919 in Berdichev and Zhytomyr; when Simosenko cut out almost three thousand souls in February in Proskurov and Felshtin; when Volynets cut out three hundred souls in July in Litin and Letich on Podolia; when at the same time Shepel cut out four hundred in Khmelnik and Kalinovka on the same Podolia souls; when the Greens cut out five hundred souls in August in the town of Pogrebishchi in the Kiev region; when in the summer of the same year, a whole thousand victims fell at the hands of the rebels in the town of Gorodishchi in the Kiev region; when the rebels cut out in March 1920. more than two thousand Jewish poor in the town of Tetiev , all in the same Kiev region and so on . D. and T. D. without end and edge ... - t a k in the name of what"they did it all? Wasn't it in the name of the slogan you threw at them: "Down with Soviet power, long live independent Ukraine" that they committed all these terrible crimes? Did not the "sacred" yellow-blackite banners handed to them by you flutter high above their heads during these bloody "deeds"? Wasn't your chauvinistic hymn "Ukraine has not died yet" just then "victoriously" poured out of their breasts and still could not drown out the terrible screams rushing to the sky, the inhuman groans of tens of thousands of unfortunate victims tortured by them? www.docdroid.net/8AFQyNx/pinkhos-krasnyi-tragediya-ukrainskogo-yevreistva-kiev-1928-pdf
You have been doing a great job for years, covering the complicated history of this part of Europe, so often ignored, misrepresented or oversimplified. Today the World is finally taking an interest in it but for the worst reasons. Get well soon Stefan! Stay strong free Ukraine! 🇺🇦
@@UserUser-ww2nj It's still part of the UK, it's a self governing colony, or a Dominion. The official head of state is the sovereign of the UK. The legal system and social structure etc is British. We even speak English!!!!
Ukrainian history is complicated and fascinating. Have you considered making a video during the lead up to WW2 and WW2 itself from Ukraines perspective as well? Beforehand though, rest up and feel better! Appreciate your efforts and your vidoes.
Maybe a future topic, Stefan, if you have not covered yet I remember something in your previous videos about these anarchist brothers: "Nestor Ivanovych Makhno November 8 [O.S. October 27] 1888 - July 25, 1934), also known as Bat'ko Makhno was a Ukrainian anarchist revolutionary and the commander of an independent anarchist army in Ukraine from 1917 to 1921." Wikipedia. Obrigado! 🇧🇷
A particularly difficult area to cover during this period, with all the various armies forming and breaking alliances with each other. not to mention the several ethnicities involved. Yeah I thought you weren't your usual chirpy self. Get well soon, I'm looking forward to the Makhno episode.
Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine: Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'. Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise. Its name “Russia" received only around 1721, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “All Russian Empire” (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus') Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian. Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'. In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership. “Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavicised Finnic, then later, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village. Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
What's the difference between Ruthenian and Ukrainian? What happened to the actual Galicians? hmmm a country with no actual people or a people who disappeared into thin air? What was the Ukrainian language called in 1899?
@@VenturaIT Ruthenian is the old word for Ukrainian (and Belarusian) that was gradually replaced with Ukrainian, at first in the east and centre of Ukraine and then in the west. Noone disappeared, just the name changed. The most well-known book on the history of Ukraine written by Mykhailo Hrushevskyi is entitled the "The history of Ukraine-Rus (Ukraine-Ruthenia)", reflecting that dualism.
@@Timo_UA Yes, that's the communist revisionist history about it. Mykhailo Hrushevskyi was a pre-soviet socialist who advocated for land redistribution and wealth redistribution by an elite class of commisioners. In reality he was born in Poland. Even in that time the people never called the Ukraine just "Ukraine"... I know because my family is from there. Ruthenian was a name that other people called the Rus... and the people of the Ukraine at that time self identified as anything other than "Ukrainian" ... Ukrainian was just a concept that enabled communist takeover of the land and to separate it from Russian (Moscow) and to weaken Moscow (Russia.) The interesting thing is that the Ukrainians are the real Russians and the "Russians" are Moscovites or Moscovians. So at that time nobody called their language Ukrainian, nobody called themselves Ukrainian, and the people in that area didn't call themselves Ukrainian unless they were part of the communist leaning socialist reform group that was overthrown by the Bolsheviks who formed the Soviet Union. So the Ukraine we know today was formed out of hardcore communist ideals from the Soviet Union. And it wasn't a gradual change. At Talerhoff and other places they went door to door forcing people to sign that they were now suddenly Ukrainians and no longer what they had been before. If you refused you were put into Europe's first concentration camp and/or hung from the tree in front of your house. So don't give me this baloney that it was gradual. According to my research, and my own family, the people there never called themselves Ukrainian except after years of being forced to identify that way. About Talerhof, you have to understand that it was the people who took over after the Austro-Hungarians were assassinated and replaced, so it wasn't the same Austrian rulers who enacted this. It's very complex. ... Thalerhof (also transliterated as Talerhof from Cyrillic-based East Slavic texts) was a concentration camp created by the Austro-Hungarian authorities active from 1914 to 1917, in a valley in foothills of the Alps, near Graz, the main city of the province of Styria.[1] Overview Central Camp Talerhof 1914-1917 Killings in Talerhof The Austro-Hungarian authorities imprisoned leaders of the Russophile movement among Carpatho-Rusyns, Lemkos, and Galicians (see Galician Russophilia); those who recognized the Russian language as the literary standard form of their own Slavic language varieties and had sympathy for the Russian Empire. Thus, the captives were forced to abandon their identity as Russians, or sympathies for Russia, and identify as Ukrainian. Captives who identified themselves as Ukrainians were freed from the camp. Between 1924-1932, four issues of the Thalerhof Almanac were published in Lviv, in which collected documentary evidence of the number of prisoners and the murders of peaceful Russophiles by the Austrian authorities was published. Out of 5,500,158 inhabitants of Eastern Galicia in 1914, 2,114,792 (39.8%) were native speakers of Polish, and 3,385,366 (58.9%) were native speakers of Ruthenian (Rusyn or Ukrainian). In the book "Habsburg national politics during the First World War", authors D.A. Akhremenko, chairman of a public organization called Historical Consciousness, and K.V. Shevchenko, a professor at Belarusian State University, state that Thalerhof held a total of 10,000 Russians, about 2,000 Rusyns (according to other sources up to 5,000), and about 200-250 students placed in the camp on charges of sympathy for the Russian Empire, and the Russian books of Grigory Skovoroda, Taras Shevchenko, Pushkin, Tolstoy and others.[2] In total over twenty thousand people were arrested and placed in Thalerhof camp.[3] Thalerhof had no barracks until the winter of 1915. Prisoners slept on the ground in the open-air during both rain and frost.[4] According to U.S. Congressman Medill McCormick, prisoners were regularly beaten and tortured.[5] On 9 November 1914 an official report of Fieldmarshal Schleer said there were 5,700 Carpatho-Rusyns, Lemkos, and Ukrainians in Talerhof. In the winter of 1914-1915, a third of the roughly 7,000 internees died of typhus.[6] The camp was closed by Emperor Charles I of Austria, 6 months into his reign.[7] In the first eighteen months of its existence, three thousand[4] prisoners of Thalerhof died, including the Orthodox saint Maxim Sandovich, who was martyred here (beatified August 29, 1996 by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia). From 1945 to 1955 the site was used as an airbase by the RAF, and known, as RAF Station Thalerhof before being transferred back to the Austrian Government. Graz Airport currently occupies the former site of the camp. The barracks were demolished in 1936. The corpses of 1,767 internees were then exhumed and reburied in a mass grave at Feldkirchen bei Graz.[7]
@VenturaIT The term Ukraine and Ukrainians had existed long before the communist ideology even appeared. You can read a short overview of the history of the ethnonym Ukrainian in Wikipedia: With the publication of Ivan Kotliarevsky's Eneyida (Aeneid) in 1798, which established the modern Ukrainian language, and with the subsequent Romantic revival of national traditions and culture, the ethnonym Ukrainians and the notion of a Ukrainian language came into more prominence at the beginning of the 19th century and gradually replaced the words "Rusyns" and "Ruthenian(s)". In areas outside the control of the Russian/Soviet state until the mid-20th century (Western Ukraine), Ukrainians were known by their pre-existing names for much longer.[61][62][63][65] The appellation Ukrainians initially came into common usage in Central Ukraine[66][67] and did not take hold in Galicia and Bukovina until the latter part of the 19th century, in Transcarpathia until the 1930s, and in the Prešov Region until the late 1940s.[68][69][70] A more detailed information can be found in the Ukrainian Wiki version. The term Rusyn (Ruthenian in English) was first abandoned in the part of Ukraine which was controlled by Russia. The term was confusing, sounding similar to the name of Russians, especially in the form of adjective, so Ukrainians started calling themselves Ukrainians in opposition to the official term Little Russians imposed on them by Russians. After the Ukrainian national Hromada movement started being persecuted by Russians, many of its political leaders took refuge in West Ukraine, bringing their ideas and the new name to the west of Ukraine, which was part of Austro-Hungary back then, and the process of replacement of the name Ruthenian by Ukrainian started (or rather intensified) there too. It had nothing to do with communism. Mykhailo Hrushevskyi was born in the city of Kholm (Chełm in Polish), which belonged to the Russian Empire back then and now is part of Poland. It was the centre of the Ukrainian ethnic region known as Kholmshchyna, which had had a significant Ruthenian/Ukrainian population since the time it was part of Kyiv Rus. According to the census of 1897, 33% of the population of Kholm district spoke Ukrainian, 34% spoke Polish, 13% spoke German, 13% spoke Jewish (Yiddish), and 6% spoke Russian. Whether Ukrainian emigrants called themselves Ukrainians or not depends on the part of Ukraine they emigrated from and the time they did it. If your ancestors had emigrated from the western part of Ukraine before the name Ukrainians spread there and replaced the old term Ruthenian, then it is quite easy to see why they didn't call themselves Ukrainians. They might also have their surnames written in a weird manner, that is using Polish or maybe even German orthography, I often happen to see surnames of Canadian or American Ukrainians which at first glance don't even look Ukrainian because of the spelling which is different from the modern Ukrainian-English transliteration.
That period around the end of ww1 was very difficult for Ukraine. They didn't gain independence. Hope they don't loose it now and that peace comes as fast as possible. 🕊️🇺🇦🕊️
Problem is, that for centuries big part of Ukraine was FFA. And with fall of Turkish and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth influence after Russia gained importance, the Eastern Ukraine fell to Tsars. It's hard to distinguish if Ukraine and it's people felt as an separate identity from rest of Tsar Russia and Moscovia, mainly because nobody questioned Russian rule untill Bolsheviks Revolution and later Stalin's rule. I guess many Ukranians in 1930s, and then in 1946-47 started to despise Stalin and Russians for the mass starvation and repressions. I feel many want their nation to be treated as an equal partner, not a slave of Russians and their tsars.
@@markobavdek9450We (Ukraine) are a US colony. Independence is only on paper. Our Ukraine has been ruled by the United States of America since 1991. The US Central Intelligence Agency admitted that it took 60 years to destroy the Soviet Union. After that, they govern each former republic separately. Only Putin was able to snatch Russia from the influence of the United States. Now Russia is at war not with Ukraine, but with the United States on the territory of Ukraine. We have over 50 US military bases in Ukraine near Russia's borders, concentration camps for civilians, and Nazism against the Ukrainian population that speaks Russian.
Ukraine IS Kyivan-Rus'. This is historically obscured by the fact that the Mongol raids massacred 90% of the Kyivan population and the state did not emerge again for many centuries because of its diminished existence and decimated population. During the "dark ages" of Kyiv other states like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austro-Hungarians and Muscovia divided up Kyivan land and occupied it. The ignoring of this fact is Russia's main argument that Ukraine isn't a real place even though Ukrainians still use the same symbols as the original kingdom, while these ancient symbols are banned in Russia and labelled as "nazi symbols" for their Kremlin propaganda. The Ukrainian tryzub symbol was used 1000 years ago by Kyivan kings. Russia is desperate to suppress Kyiv from rising from the ashes since they claim to be the descendants of the kingdom they helped destroy. This information getting sorted out in public would basically the condemn entire Russian Empire trilogy as an imperialist political hoax.
And yet it was the Kievan Rus and not Ukraine. The only connection "Ukrainians" have to the kievan rus is that they control Kiev and larp the symbols. The term Ukrainian only referred to land and not a people until the mid 1800s. The current flag was also invented in the 1800s along with Ukrainian nationalism. The Russian tricolor has been used on modern "Ukrainian" territory longer than the blue and yellow flag has even existed. Taras Shevshenko never even used the word "Ukrainian" to refer to a people, he considered himself a Russian. The entirety of Southern Malorussia was depopulated by Turkish raids until Russia liberated it and founded the Russian cities of Odessa, Melitopol, Sevastopol, Tiraspol, Mariupol, Ekaterinaslav, Nikolaev, Aleksandrovsk, Elisavetgrad, Symferopol and Kherson. This was accomplished over the course of hundreds of years of wars between Russia and Poland-Lithuania and Turkey. Without Russia, Southern Malorussia would be Turkish. Central and West Malorussia would be a Catholic Polish colony.
@@TsaristCossack Where are you pretending Ukrainian people came from? Out of nowhere? Why is Moscva so far away from the center of the empire they claim retroactively? You think Vladivostok and Novgorod are the same country? Delusional imperialist
@UhtredOfBamburgh The correct historical term is Malorussian, a term coined by the Byzantines. Belarussians, Malorussians and Russians descend from the Russian people of the Kievan Rus, which was a slavic Orthodox Empire, so imperialist is a compliment to me. Also the correct name is Kievan Rus, not "kyivan". Using contemporary Malorussian pronunciation is ahistorical here. Modern Russian language is closer to old Slavonic than modern Malorussian. Siberia and much of the Russian far east were discovered/ settled by Cossacks (Malorussians).
Are you teaching history or explaining the current situation? You make history look likes breaking news. ....A excellent job again Stefan. To bad that history is a so under estimated subject at school.
It would be interesting, the historical and political FACTS, about the countries, that once were the BLOCK behind the Iron Curtain... All the manipulation and fabricated confrontation, of countries that once were brothers.... especially by someone, who isn't even European... Tendrás los cojones, cómo para hacerlo.??✌️🍀
In your video, you talked about four Ukraines. I will add that during the Russian civil war, the Ukrainians fought for the Ukrainians (Petlyura and Skoropadsky, who were at enmity with each other) reds, whites, greens and ukrainian warlords, blacks (Makhnovists), Poles. Finally Western Ukrainians disagreed with the Ukrainians. Very often there was desertion from one side to the other side. It seems that people were indifferent to ideologies and followed those in whom they felt strength and the restoration of their former life. I came to the conclusion long ago that Russians and Ukrainians had a deep identity crisis at the beginning of the 20th century and it seems that they have not yet formed as ethnic groups. This was an important reason for the victory of the Bolsheviks.
Ukrainians and Russians are one, they are the mix of the Slavic tribes and the Anglo-Saxon s/Scandinavians/Vikings and so is the majority of the baltics. Their fighting is nothing new, they fought from the start as the Kievan Russ with the capitals changing from kyiv to Moscow to another city in the baltics or Saint Petersburg today, then the one that United them had sons and gave them each kyiv moscow and the third city which led to fighting again ultimately the one in moscow won and thus the russian empire started which included the baltics ukraine and the polish lithuanian common wealth, moldova romania and i think even parts of the balkans for a while, it was basically bordering turkey on both sides of the black sea
First, I'm sorry to hear that you're ill. Do your best to take care of yourself, and ignore any ding dongs. This topic is a course in itself, as it is just one complex part of the even more complex Russian Civil War and Russo-Polish War. You did a good job on the absolute basics, and I'm glad you mentioned Makhno, who usually gets ignored, but played a bigger part in this era than most people know. OK, hoping you heal soon, take care and no ding dong until you're better...
I am glad I bumped into your presentation I learned a lot about Ukraine and it’s History which can easily gives anyone a nervous breakdown. XXI century should and must be Time for independent and sovereign Ukraine. Reconstruction help will come that is one thing I am sure about.
Very thorough, thank you. It would be interesting if you could talk about the part of Ukraine that became part of Czechoslovakia and subsequently what happened to Ruthenians.
A very interesting period of history. WW1 didn't really end in Eastern Europe, as communist revolutions and the Russian civil war continued for years afterwards.
Get well soon, Professor! Outstanding synopsis of the end of WW1 Ostfront in Ukraine and the rise of the various competing states and nations over the region. 💯👍❗
My grandfather was deeply involved with the First Rada, Brest-Litovsk and later Directory governments. And he was still in his teens at the time being born in 1899. You did a great job of explaining the exceedingly complex situation that existed. One thing certainly hasn't changed is the Russian government's attitude towards Ukrainians. Set up rival goverment taking orders directly from Moscow, then use it as justification for violence and repression. One thing that has changed is Europe is vastly different now than it was in the aftermath of WW 1, with both Poland and modern Germany supporting a free, sovereign Ukrainian nation. Let us hope the last century of misery will not be revisited on this country which has struggled so long.
"Set up rival government taking orders directly from Moscow,"? What exactly do you think happened back in 2014, when the US sponsored a (F#$k the EU) coup to oust Yanukovych? Ukraine should have never existed in it's current form, it should have been dealt with in 1991 along with the Crimean issue. Maybe you should read some of the ramblings of the Rand Corporation and the Brookings institute to see who is really behind all of this.
You are right now Europe is really very different from Europe after the First World War. In order to rob, it is no longer necessary to seize and annex territories ;)
" this country which has struggled so long."? Well, it never was a "country" until 1991! Yes they certainly "struggled, they "struggled", well, more like jostled among the ruling class themselves as to see who rip off the citizens that were now in possession of all of the Soviet State owned businesses and infrastructure, yes the Oligarch class "struggled" to get their grubby hands on the state owned asserts and exploit the Ukrainian people! Don't try to blame someone else!
Now that's commitment! Stepping over oneself, to provide historical background in this horrible war! Hats off teach! Respect! (Speaking of hats, this one suits you ;-) Get well soon Stefan! Greets from the North 🌷, T.
@@HistoryHustle I wish people would watch something like this before listening to the MSM getting emotional then passing on the propaganda they just viewed
Mate you are a bloody champion and I send you the best of 'get well ' wishes from Australia. So many times you have educated and entertained me and stimulated my own passion for 20th century history. So pleased to see you covering the extraordinary days of early revolutionary Ukraine, it was actually fiction that taught of the crazy adventures of the anarchists (greens?); Nestor Makno, the reds etc etc. So if you want a fun read while your getting better I'd recommend Michael Moorcock and his Cornell Pyat series. I'm sorry to hear how present-day events have upset you and I wish you all the best!
@@warwickmudge4114 If you look at the Russian Coat of Arms, the double headed Eagle is a symbol of the Holy Roman Empire. How many other places do you see the Eagle with 1 or 2 heads? The UK Royals are related to the Russian Royals. The Windsors also used to be the Saxe Coburg and Gotha line and they changed their name to Windsor after the castle, to hide that they are Germans, before the war started . We have all been deceived
I have about 20 banknotes from Ukraine in that period. It's interesting learning about this period of history as it's rarely taught and extremely complicated like a lot of civil wars.
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." It's good to see someone on UA-cam who is teaching the actual history rather than going along with the disinformation and revisionist history.
Without even watching your video, there were 12 Ukraines between 1917 and 1921, some of them existed on the same territory. So, when you say "Ukraine proclaimed independence" you need to specify which "Ukraine" and "independence" from what exactly. Also, revolutions of 1917 were not "Russian", they were bourgeois (in February) and socialist (in October) and happened in all corners of the former empire.
Nothing's ever simple is it? One thing I learned from traveling in Poland, the Baltics, and Central Europe in general is that while in the West we're taught that WWI ended in 1918, in Eastern and Central Europe it wasn't so cut and dry. People in Eastern and Central Europe never forgot about those years after the Armistice. The only conflict I remember being taught about of all the wars after November 11 1918 was the Russian Civil War.
A complex problem, requires a simple solution. There is no such thing as a Country. Government is all the same. Its all Roman and we live in the Holy Roman Empire and they hide the truth. Religion is all satanic and is not real. The rulers use religion to con people and steal their identity, their authority and their wealth. Get Rid of "Religion"
Thanks For Sharing (History Hustle) channel for explaining this Complicated -Complex history Decade & Neighborhoods for there Greedy interesting created this chronic crisis
It seems like M. Muraviev had to play his own game. He was total against ukrainians and oether non-russian nations, what contradicted the positive national policy of the Bolsheviks. After last tsar-powers destrucktion in year 1918 he supported SR rebelion, wich wanted to remove the bolsheviks and complete the war with Germany. He also wanted to create an independet Volga "soviet" republic and used parts of the czech corps in his plan. If you look at his Actions during the civil war, you will understand that he was absolutely a freaking maniac.
You're really gifted to present history as a vivid, animated event. Thank you for sharing your original view. I hope you recovered fully from this nasty flu.
@@HistoryHustle The fact is the former Ukrainian SSR was a well stitched country /replublic then/ during the Soviet time. The former Russian Empire regions - became in 1918 Odessa People Republic and Krivorzko-Donetski People Republic. Bear in mind - half of the people in Ukraine still speak russian language as a mother language. Before the Socialist Revolution there was Novorossya region in the Russian Empire .
As an American of both Polish and Ukrainian ancestry, this is fascinating. Please be well, and take care of your health. May the Ukrainians stay strong and self determined in the face of the bully from the east.
May the Ukrainian stay strong in order that this artificial conglomerate "state" with borders created by "great humanitarians" of comrades Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev and nucleus started by Kaisers, may it stay strong in the face of a bully in order it can bully everybody and anybody who is not considered Ukrainian!
@nvzx Well well I agree but why it was not resolved in 1991? The same story as in Yugoslavia also in former Soviet Union. Each of the artificial "states" was overnight recognized in their artificial borders created by commie dictators by the West simply because it was considered as potentially anti Russian move, therefore highly desirable.
@@victorvosoba6650 Ukraine held a national referendum in 1991 on whether to approve a Declaration of Independence. Ukraine voted overwhelmingly for Declaration of Independence from Moscow Kremlin rule: 90.32% of Ukrainians voted _for_ independence. 7.58% voted _against_ The closest region vote result was Crimea (except Sevastopol) but still by double-digits voted 54-42% margin for Ukrainian independence. Sevastopol voted 57-39% for independence. Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts both voted 84-13% for Ukrainian independence from Russia. Odessa voted 85-11%, Kharkiv voted 86-10%, Mykolaiv voted 89-8% for independent Ukraine. All other oblasts/cities voted >90% for Ukraine to declare independence and be free of Moscow domination. So the issue was in fact resolved-virtually unanimously-in 1991.
Dear Stefan thank you for the informative video as always, ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. I am sorry to hear you have COVID, I can see you are under the weather. Please take care, look after yourself and get some rest🤒
Thank you soooo much for this video. It has helped me clarify some things about my Ukrainian ancestry. I will need to watch it several times because it is so rich with information.
At that time Poland and Ukraine (particularly Western Ukraine) were fighting in 1918/1919 with each other for Lwów/Lviv. It was a strategic mistake - for which both sides paid dearly. It was used to the advantage of bolshevik russia.. It can be said that the bolsheviks survive ddue to this conflict between Poland and Western Ukraine. If Poland and Western Ukraine would managed to strike a deal (foir instance: Lviv is Yours and Borislav Industrial District is Ours or vice versa) then all the Polish and Ukrainian Forces would be thrown against bolshevic russia. And it would be a mighty force consisting of Polish very well trained and equipped "Blue Army" udnder Gen. Haller (100000 soldiers) and equally very well trained and well equipped Ukrainian Army UHC numberd 80000 soldiers. In confrontation with such a combined polish and ukrainia effort - bolsheviks would be smashed into pieces and the history of Poland, Ukraine and the whole World would look quite different. Fortunetely enough, eventually both Poland and Ukraine learned their respective lessons - and Today They stand together and strongly united against hydra of russian imperialism. I am from Poland. From time to time I go by train to Przemyśl on the border with Ukraine. Usually during such a trip I chat a bit with Ukrainians Who travel to Their Country through Przemyśl. When We cross The San River in Przemyśl, just before the Railway Station, I alwas point to this river, explaining that this The River from The Ukrainian National Anthem: "Staniem Bratia w Boj kriwawyj od SANU do Donu, w ridnym kraju panowaty nie damy nikomu". Right now The first 54 kilometers of the run of The San river is the border between Poland and Ukraine. And this is a border of friendship. Through this border military equipment is going to Ukraine. There is no border issue between Poland and Ukraine. Lviv belongs to Ukraine and Przemysl belongs to Poland. And All the Poles and Ukrainians recognize this fact. But there is also the other river in the anthem: The Don River. And I think that in long perspective Ukraine should look into THAT DIRECTION following opinions of His GREAT Geopolitician Dmytro Doncow. At the end of this short remark I would like to say: Slava Ukraini! Slava Hierojam! Death to russian aggressors and imperialists!!! Greetings from Poland to Ukrainian Sisters and Brothers!!!!! Kijów - Warszawa, Wspólna Sprawa!!!!
Although more than two months have passed since the release of this video-documentary I wish you well to your health and all the success to any of your endeavors!
What is going on? War? Where? Over there? Over where? lol So, its over there and its not your problem? or its not your fault and its over there and you stand where? Over there also? lol
The History of Ukrainian Territory
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Ukrainian War of Independence (1917 - 1921)
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Ukrainian Collaboration with Germany in WW2 (1941 - 1945)
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Kharkov People’s Republic (2014)
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Flag Niederösterreich ;) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Austria
Really enjoyed this video, this is one of the only channels which covers the often overlooked side of history. I hope the current invasion will end and I hope you recover from Covid
Very nice to read, thanks for these kind words.
@@HistoryHustle You have Covid? Oh god! I wish you the best luck!
@@HistoryHustle beterschap 🙏
Do you really believe that you will be able to wash away such a terrible historical stain with this kind of "answer"? No, gentlemen Petliurists, you are mistaken. You will never succeed ...
When ataman Paliyenko cut out three hundred Jewish souls in January 1919 in Berdichev and Zhytomyr; when Simosenko cut out almost three thousand souls in February in Proskurov and Felshtin; when Volynets cut out three hundred souls in July in Litin and Letich on Podolia; when at the same time Shepel cut out four hundred in Khmelnik and Kalinovka on the same Podolia souls; when the Greens cut out five hundred souls in August in the town of Pogrebishchi in the Kiev region; when in the summer of the same year, a whole thousand victims fell at the hands of the rebels in the town of Gorodishchi in the Kiev region; when the rebels cut out in March 1920. more than two thousand Jewish poor in the town of Tetiev , all in the same Kiev region and so on . D. and T. D. without end and edge ... - t a k in the name of what"they did it all?
Wasn't it in the name of the slogan you threw at them: "Down with Soviet power, long live independent Ukraine" that they committed all these terrible crimes? Did not the "sacred" yellow-blackite banners handed to them by you flutter high above their heads during these bloody "deeds"? Wasn't your chauvinistic hymn "Ukraine has not died yet" just then "victoriously" poured out of their breasts and still could not drown out the terrible screams rushing to the sky, the inhuman groans of tens of thousands of unfortunate victims tortured by them?
www.docdroid.net/8AFQyNx/pinkhos-krasnyi-tragediya-ukrainskogo-yevreistva-kiev-1928-pdf
Thank you. Greetings from Kharkiv!
Stay strong 🇺🇦
You have been doing a great job for years, covering the complicated history of this part of Europe, so often ignored, misrepresented or oversimplified. Today the World is finally taking an interest in it but for the worst reasons.
Get well soon Stefan!
Stay strong free Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Many thanks Artur! 🇺🇦
@nvzx as it was. Doesn’t look like that anymore thanks to Bandera
Most of West Ukraine belongs to Poland, particularly LWOW.
@@ShomoGoldburgler So give Canada back to Britain 😂
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It's still part of the UK, it's a self governing colony, or a Dominion.
The official head of state is the sovereign of the UK.
The legal system and social structure etc is British.
We even speak English!!!!
Ukrainian history is complicated and fascinating. Have you considered making a video during the lead up to WW2 and WW2 itself from Ukraines perspective as well? Beforehand though, rest up and feel better! Appreciate your efforts and your vidoes.
Hi Jay, I have this video for your I think you will find interesting:
ua-cam.com/video/Cll91vfc_3Q/v-deo.html
@@HistoryHustle oh nice! I can't believe I missed that. I really appreciate it bud.
Get well soon Stefan. You have done a great job.
Thank you!
wonderful channel. i have been watching for years now. great history info.
Awesome to read. Many thanks!
Get better soon and take a break. Sending hugs from Dublin,Ireland. I so enjoyed this, sorry our gain was your pain. REST!
Thanks Saida.
Maybe a future topic, Stefan, if you have not covered yet I remember something in your previous videos about these anarchist brothers:
"Nestor Ivanovych Makhno November 8 [O.S. October 27] 1888 - July 25, 1934), also known as Bat'ko Makhno was a Ukrainian anarchist revolutionary and the commander of an independent anarchist army in Ukraine from 1917 to 1921." Wikipedia.
Obrigado! 🇧🇷
Will cover that one day for sure.
A particularly difficult area to cover during this period, with all the various armies forming and breaking alliances with each other. not to mention the several ethnicities involved. Yeah I thought you weren't your usual chirpy self. Get well soon, I'm looking forward to the Makhno episode.
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This is one of those informative and entertaining episodes of yours sir. Keep it up sir
Great to read.
Excellent presentation of an extremely complex topic. Thank you for this timely episode.
You're welcome, thanks 👍🏻
Hope you get well soon Stefan.
Thanks! I'm recovering.
Thank you for hanging in there hope you are well soon
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Wishing for you, Stefan, a speedy recovery.
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Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine:
Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'.
Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise.
Its name “Russia" received only around 1721, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “All Russian Empire” (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus')
Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian.
Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'.
In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership.
“Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavicised Finnic, then later, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village.
Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
What's the difference between Ruthenian and Ukrainian? What happened to the actual Galicians? hmmm a country with no actual people or a people who disappeared into thin air? What was the Ukrainian language called in 1899?
@@VenturaIT Ruthenian is the old word for Ukrainian (and Belarusian) that was gradually replaced with Ukrainian, at first in the east and centre of Ukraine and then in the west. Noone disappeared, just the name changed. The most well-known book on the history of Ukraine written by Mykhailo Hrushevskyi is entitled the "The history of Ukraine-Rus (Ukraine-Ruthenia)", reflecting that dualism.
@@Timo_UA Yes, that's the communist revisionist history about it. Mykhailo Hrushevskyi was a pre-soviet socialist who advocated for land redistribution and wealth redistribution by an elite class of commisioners.
In reality he was born in Poland. Even in that time the people never called the Ukraine just "Ukraine"... I know because my family is from there.
Ruthenian was a name that other people called the Rus... and the people of the Ukraine at that time self identified as anything other than "Ukrainian" ... Ukrainian was just a concept that enabled communist takeover of the land and to separate it from Russian (Moscow) and to weaken Moscow (Russia.)
The interesting thing is that the Ukrainians are the real Russians and the "Russians" are Moscovites or Moscovians.
So at that time nobody called their language Ukrainian, nobody called themselves Ukrainian, and the people in that area didn't call themselves Ukrainian unless they were part of the communist leaning socialist reform group that was overthrown by the Bolsheviks who formed the Soviet Union.
So the Ukraine we know today was formed out of hardcore communist ideals from the Soviet Union.
And it wasn't a gradual change. At Talerhoff and other places they went door to door forcing people to sign that they were now suddenly Ukrainians and no longer what they had been before. If you refused you were put into Europe's first concentration camp and/or hung from the tree in front of your house. So don't give me this baloney that it was gradual.
According to my research, and my own family, the people there never called themselves Ukrainian except after years of being forced to identify that way.
About Talerhof, you have to understand that it was the people who took over after the Austro-Hungarians were assassinated and replaced, so it wasn't the same Austrian rulers who enacted this. It's very complex.
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Thalerhof (also transliterated as Talerhof from Cyrillic-based East Slavic texts) was a concentration camp created by the Austro-Hungarian authorities active from 1914 to 1917, in a valley in foothills of the Alps, near Graz, the main city of the province of Styria.[1]
Overview
Central Camp Talerhof 1914-1917
Killings in Talerhof
The Austro-Hungarian authorities imprisoned leaders of the Russophile movement among Carpatho-Rusyns, Lemkos, and Galicians (see Galician Russophilia); those who recognized the Russian language as the literary standard form of their own Slavic language varieties and had sympathy for the Russian Empire. Thus, the captives were forced to abandon their identity as Russians, or sympathies for Russia, and identify as Ukrainian. Captives who identified themselves as Ukrainians were freed from the camp. Between 1924-1932, four issues of the Thalerhof Almanac were published in Lviv, in which collected documentary evidence of the number of prisoners and the murders of peaceful Russophiles by the Austrian authorities was published. Out of 5,500,158 inhabitants of Eastern Galicia in 1914, 2,114,792 (39.8%) were native speakers of Polish, and 3,385,366 (58.9%) were native speakers of Ruthenian (Rusyn or Ukrainian). In the book "Habsburg national politics during the First World War", authors D.A. Akhremenko, chairman of a public organization called Historical Consciousness, and K.V. Shevchenko, a professor at Belarusian State University, state that Thalerhof held a total of 10,000 Russians, about 2,000 Rusyns (according to other sources up to 5,000), and about 200-250 students placed in the camp on charges of sympathy for the Russian Empire, and the Russian books of Grigory Skovoroda, Taras Shevchenko, Pushkin, Tolstoy and others.[2] In total over twenty thousand people were arrested and placed in Thalerhof camp.[3]
Thalerhof had no barracks until the winter of 1915. Prisoners slept on the ground in the open-air during both rain and frost.[4] According to U.S. Congressman Medill McCormick, prisoners were regularly beaten and tortured.[5] On 9 November 1914 an official report of Fieldmarshal Schleer said there were 5,700 Carpatho-Rusyns, Lemkos, and Ukrainians in Talerhof. In the winter of 1914-1915, a third of the roughly 7,000 internees died of typhus.[6] The camp was closed by Emperor Charles I of Austria, 6 months into his reign.[7]
In the first eighteen months of its existence, three thousand[4] prisoners of Thalerhof died, including the Orthodox saint Maxim Sandovich, who was martyred here (beatified August 29, 1996 by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia).
From 1945 to 1955 the site was used as an airbase by the RAF, and known, as RAF Station Thalerhof before being transferred back to the Austrian Government. Graz Airport currently occupies the former site of the camp.
The barracks were demolished in 1936. The corpses of 1,767 internees were then exhumed and reburied in a mass grave at Feldkirchen bei Graz.[7]
@VenturaIT The term Ukraine and Ukrainians had existed long before the communist ideology even appeared. You can read a short overview of the history of the ethnonym Ukrainian in Wikipedia:
With the publication of Ivan Kotliarevsky's Eneyida (Aeneid) in 1798, which established the modern Ukrainian language, and with the subsequent Romantic revival of national traditions and culture, the ethnonym Ukrainians and the notion of a Ukrainian language came into more prominence at the beginning of the 19th century and gradually replaced the words "Rusyns" and "Ruthenian(s)". In areas outside the control of the Russian/Soviet state until the mid-20th century (Western Ukraine), Ukrainians were known by their pre-existing names for much longer.[61][62][63][65] The appellation Ukrainians initially came into common usage in Central Ukraine[66][67] and did not take hold in Galicia and Bukovina until the latter part of the 19th century, in Transcarpathia until the 1930s, and in the Prešov Region until the late 1940s.[68][69][70]
A more detailed information can be found in the Ukrainian Wiki version.
The term Rusyn (Ruthenian in English) was first abandoned in the part of Ukraine which was controlled by Russia. The term was confusing, sounding similar to the name of Russians, especially in the form of adjective, so Ukrainians started calling themselves Ukrainians in opposition to the official term Little Russians imposed on them by Russians. After the Ukrainian national Hromada movement started being persecuted by Russians, many of its political leaders took refuge in West Ukraine, bringing their ideas and the new name to the west of Ukraine, which was part of Austro-Hungary back then, and the process of replacement of the name Ruthenian by Ukrainian started (or rather intensified) there too. It had nothing to do with communism.
Mykhailo Hrushevskyi was born in the city of Kholm (Chełm in Polish), which belonged to the Russian Empire back then and now is part of Poland. It was the centre of the Ukrainian ethnic region known as Kholmshchyna, which had had a significant Ruthenian/Ukrainian population since the time it was part of Kyiv Rus. According to the census of 1897, 33% of the population of Kholm district spoke Ukrainian, 34% spoke Polish, 13% spoke German, 13% spoke Jewish (Yiddish), and 6% spoke Russian.
Whether Ukrainian emigrants called themselves Ukrainians or not depends on the part of Ukraine they emigrated from and the time they did it. If your ancestors had emigrated from the western part of Ukraine before the name Ukrainians spread there and replaced the old term Ruthenian, then it is quite easy to see why they didn't call themselves Ukrainians. They might also have their surnames written in a weird manner, that is using Polish or maybe even German orthography, I often happen to see surnames of Canadian or American Ukrainians which at first glance don't even look Ukrainian because of the spelling which is different from the modern Ukrainian-English transliteration.
Excellent job. Very insightful. It's very important to put Ukraine history into perspective. This really puts the pieces together. Thanks
Thanks for your reply.
A very tumultuous time, with many conflicting interests.
It was a nice video, I hope you're feeling better!
Indeed. Thanks for your reply.
That period around the end of ww1 was very difficult for Ukraine. They didn't gain independence. Hope they don't loose it now and that peace comes as fast as possible.
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@nvzx What do you mean FFA?
Wonder that as well...
Problem is, that for centuries big part of Ukraine was FFA. And with fall of Turkish and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth influence after Russia gained importance, the Eastern Ukraine fell to Tsars. It's hard to distinguish if Ukraine and it's people felt as an separate identity from rest of Tsar Russia and Moscovia, mainly because nobody questioned Russian rule untill Bolsheviks Revolution and later Stalin's rule. I guess many Ukranians in 1930s, and then in 1946-47 started to despise Stalin and Russians for the mass starvation and repressions. I feel many want their nation to be treated as an equal partner, not a slave of Russians and their tsars.
@@markobavdek9450We (Ukraine) are a US colony. Independence is only on paper. Our Ukraine has been ruled by the United States of America since 1991. The US Central Intelligence Agency admitted that it took 60 years to destroy the Soviet Union. After that, they govern each former republic separately. Only Putin was able to snatch Russia from the influence of the United States. Now Russia is at war not with Ukraine, but with the United States on the territory of Ukraine. We have over 50 US military bases in Ukraine near Russia's borders, concentration camps for civilians, and Nazism against the Ukrainian population that speaks Russian.
Ukraine IS Kyivan-Rus'. This is historically obscured by the fact that the Mongol raids massacred 90% of the Kyivan population and the state did not emerge again for many centuries because of its diminished existence and decimated population. During the "dark ages" of Kyiv other states like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austro-Hungarians and Muscovia divided up Kyivan land and occupied it. The ignoring of this fact is Russia's main argument that Ukraine isn't a real place even though Ukrainians still use the same symbols as the original kingdom, while these ancient symbols are banned in Russia and labelled as "nazi symbols" for their Kremlin propaganda. The Ukrainian tryzub symbol was used 1000 years ago by Kyivan kings. Russia is desperate to suppress Kyiv from rising from the ashes since they claim to be the descendants of the kingdom they helped destroy. This information getting sorted out in public would basically the condemn entire Russian Empire trilogy as an imperialist political hoax.
Damn, ukrainian history rewriting...
And what? All European nations are using Indian symbols, does that mean all Europeans came from India?
And yet it was the Kievan Rus and not Ukraine. The only connection "Ukrainians" have to the kievan rus is that they control Kiev and larp the symbols. The term Ukrainian only referred to land and not a people until the mid 1800s. The current flag was also invented in the 1800s along with Ukrainian nationalism. The Russian tricolor has been used on modern "Ukrainian" territory longer than the blue and yellow flag has even existed. Taras Shevshenko never even used the word "Ukrainian" to refer to a people, he considered himself a Russian. The entirety of Southern Malorussia was depopulated by Turkish raids until Russia liberated it and founded the Russian cities of Odessa, Melitopol, Sevastopol, Tiraspol, Mariupol, Ekaterinaslav, Nikolaev, Aleksandrovsk, Elisavetgrad, Symferopol and Kherson. This was accomplished over the course of hundreds of years of wars between Russia and Poland-Lithuania and Turkey. Without Russia, Southern Malorussia would be Turkish. Central and West Malorussia would be a Catholic Polish colony.
@@TsaristCossack Where are you pretending Ukrainian people came from? Out of nowhere? Why is Moscva so far away from the center of the empire they claim retroactively? You think Vladivostok and Novgorod are the same country? Delusional imperialist
@UhtredOfBamburgh The correct historical term is Malorussian, a term coined by the Byzantines. Belarussians, Malorussians and Russians descend from the Russian people of the Kievan Rus, which was a slavic Orthodox Empire, so imperialist is a compliment to me. Also the correct name is Kievan Rus, not "kyivan". Using contemporary Malorussian pronunciation is ahistorical here. Modern Russian language is closer to old Slavonic than modern Malorussian. Siberia and much of the Russian far east were discovered/ settled by Cossacks (Malorussians).
Wishing you a quick recovery. Your videos are so informative, thank you for making them.👍💕
You're welcome. Thanks Cindi.
Get well Stefan and thank you.
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I enjoy the Hustle, one of the best shows out there. I hope u feel better soon and look forward to future shows
Let's hope so Aaron. Thanks!
Are you teaching history or explaining the current situation? You make history look likes breaking news. ....A excellent job again Stefan. To bad that history is a so under estimated subject at school.
Thanks. This is history.
History has been hidden and mixed up so much, its hard to know what is real and what isnt
It would be interesting, the historical and political FACTS, about the countries, that once were the BLOCK behind the Iron Curtain...
All the manipulation and fabricated confrontation, of countries that once were brothers.... especially by someone, who isn't even European...
Tendrás los cojones, cómo para hacerlo.??✌️🍀
In your video, you talked about four Ukraines. I will add that during the Russian civil war, the Ukrainians fought for the Ukrainians (Petlyura and Skoropadsky, who were at enmity with each other) reds, whites, greens and ukrainian warlords, blacks (Makhnovists), Poles. Finally Western Ukrainians disagreed with the Ukrainians. Very often there was desertion from one side to the other side. It seems that people were indifferent to ideologies and followed those in whom they felt strength and the restoration of their former life. I came to the conclusion long ago that Russians and Ukrainians had a deep identity crisis at the beginning of the 20th century and it seems that they have not yet formed as ethnic groups. This was an important reason for the victory of the Bolsheviks.
Thanks for sharing this. Today more on this topic!
Ukrainians and Russians are one, they are the mix of the Slavic tribes and the Anglo-Saxon s/Scandinavians/Vikings and so is the majority of the baltics. Their fighting is nothing new, they fought from the start as the Kievan Russ with the capitals changing from kyiv to Moscow to another city in the baltics or Saint Petersburg today, then the one that United them had sons and gave them each kyiv moscow and the third city which led to fighting again ultimately the one in moscow won and thus the russian empire started which included the baltics ukraine and the polish lithuanian common wealth, moldova romania and i think even parts of the balkans for a while, it was basically bordering turkey on both sides of the black sea
First, I'm sorry to hear that you're ill. Do your best to take care of yourself, and ignore any ding dongs. This topic is a course in itself, as it is just one complex part of the even more complex Russian Civil War and Russo-Polish War. You did a good job on the absolute basics, and I'm glad you mentioned Makhno, who usually gets ignored, but played a bigger part in this era than most people know. OK, hoping you heal soon, take care and no ding dong until you're better...
Thanks for your reply. Ding dong! :)
Hope you feel better soon!
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Refreshingly unbiased and thorough introduction to this difficult topic. I wish more people would take the trouble to know the history of this region.
Thanks for watching.
Get better soon!
Thank you, Mario!
As always, very informative and interesting.
Thank you, Galahad!
“Nah man Lets make a fourth Ukraine”
- Some guy
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Thank you for this wonderful history lesson. Please take care do yourself. Peace and light to your spirit. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for your kind words.
I am glad I bumped into your presentation I learned a lot about Ukraine and it’s History which can easily gives anyone a nervous breakdown. XXI century should and must be Time for independent and sovereign Ukraine. Reconstruction help will come that is one thing I am sure about.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks 😘🇺🇦
From Ukraine...
Your dedication astounds me. Well done. I hope you recover quickly from Covid.
Thanks Tris.
@@HistoryHustle You're welcome, Stefan!
Get well soon! I appreciate your efforts on this video in spite of being so sick. Thanks for the hard work!
Thank you, Frank.
Look after yourself, Stefan. Thanks for your videos.
Will do, thanks.
Very thorough, thank you. It would be interesting if you could talk about the part of Ukraine that became part of Czechoslovakia and subsequently what happened to Ruthenians.
Thank you for watching, Roman.
Thank you for your great videos, Stefan. I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Fascinating! Thank you
Thanks 👍🏻
All Ukraine want is to be their own state and country but Russia can't learn to let it go
Sadly no.
Stay safe Stefan, thank you for sharing your knowledge and history updates 🇺🇦💙💛👍
=) Jesse
Cheers, Jesse!
Hope you get well, the best wishes for Ukraine
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A very interesting period of history. WW1 didn't really end in Eastern Europe, as communist revolutions and the Russian civil war continued for years afterwards.
Agree, glad you find this as well.
World war 1 and 2 were Phony wars. Set up by the Royals etc
Thanks for the vid!
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Get well soon, Professor! Outstanding synopsis of the end of WW1 Ostfront in Ukraine and the rise of the various competing states and nations over the region. 💯👍❗
Glad you found this interesting. More on it later!
@@HistoryHustle , I look forward to it! 👍
Interesting and sadly very relevant at this time.
Take care and get well soon.
Thanks David!
Thanks Stefan. A little known piece of history that is relevant to contemporary events. As always you are concise and objective. Keep well.
Thanks George!
Thank you Stefan for making this interesting video. I wish you a quick recovery.
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Thanks for your great videos ! Get well soon Stefan.
Thank you, Paul.
@@HistoryHustle Bedankt voor zo'n fantastisch kanaal !!
My only still living grandparent is of Ukrainian ancestry!
Interesting!
@@HistoryHustle Thanks!
My grandfather was deeply involved with the First Rada, Brest-Litovsk and later Directory governments. And he was still in his teens at the time being born in 1899. You did a great job of explaining the exceedingly complex situation that existed. One thing certainly hasn't changed is the Russian government's attitude towards Ukrainians. Set up rival goverment taking orders directly from Moscow, then use it as justification for violence and repression. One thing that has changed is Europe is vastly different now than it was in the aftermath of WW 1, with both Poland and modern Germany supporting a free, sovereign Ukrainian nation. Let us hope the last century of misery will not be revisited on this country which has struggled so long.
"Set up rival government taking orders directly from Moscow,"? What exactly do you think happened back in 2014, when the US sponsored a (F#$k the EU) coup to oust Yanukovych? Ukraine should have never existed in it's current form, it should have been dealt with in 1991 along with the Crimean issue. Maybe you should read some of the ramblings of the Rand Corporation and the Brookings institute to see who is really behind all of this.
You are right now Europe is really very different from Europe after the First World War. In order to rob, it is no longer necessary to seize and annex territories ;)
" this country which has struggled so long."? Well, it never was a "country" until 1991! Yes they certainly "struggled, they "struggled", well, more like jostled among the ruling class themselves as to see who rip off the citizens that were now in possession of all of the Soviet State owned businesses and infrastructure, yes the Oligarch class "struggled" to get their grubby hands on the state owned asserts and exploit the Ukrainian people! Don't try to blame someone else!
You ever think that maybe the people under 'the rival government' don't consider themselves Borderlanders?
Now that's commitment! Stepping over oneself, to provide historical background in this horrible war! Hats off teach! Respect! (Speaking of hats, this one suits you ;-)
Get well soon Stefan!
Greets from the North 🌷, T.
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Thank you so much. The history of centuries of conflict in Europe is very confusing yet vital to understanding what is happening in the present.
Thank you for watching.
Word snel weer beter.
Thank you for your work to create this video.
Appreciated.
Dank Daniel!
Great reporting.
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Thanks Stefan I love your lessons
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@@HistoryHustle I wish people would watch something like this before listening to the MSM getting emotional then passing on the propaganda they just viewed
@@HistoryHustle but I guess that’s exactly why propaganda exists
Love this channel.
A big salute from México
Many thanks, Carlos!
Mate you are a bloody champion and I send you the best of 'get well ' wishes from Australia. So many times you have educated and entertained me and stimulated my own passion for 20th century history. So pleased to see you covering the extraordinary days of early revolutionary Ukraine, it was actually fiction that taught of the crazy adventures of the anarchists (greens?); Nestor Makno, the reds etc etc. So if you want a fun read while your getting better I'd recommend Michael Moorcock and his Cornell Pyat series. I'm sorry to hear how present-day events have upset you and I wish you all the best!
Thanks Warwick!
You are just confused. Ukraine was Nazi in WW2
@@je-freenorman7787 yes mate maybe certain parts were sympathetic in WW2, I however am talking about the Russian civil war period in 1920 etc!
@@warwickmudge4114 If you look at the Russian Coat of Arms, the double headed Eagle is a symbol of the Holy Roman Empire. How many other places do you see the Eagle with 1 or 2 heads? The UK Royals are related to the Russian Royals. The Windsors also used to be the Saxe Coburg and Gotha line and they changed their name to Windsor after the castle, to hide that they are Germans, before the war started . We have all been deceived
@@warwickmudge4114 Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. and they were Nazi in WW2 . Prussians etc . Its all Aryan Culture
Eastern Europe from 1918 to 1922 was such a mess
Indeed.
Interesting, enjoy history. But know very little about this area.
Glad you find it interesting.
I have about 20 banknotes from Ukraine in that period. It's interesting learning about this period of history as it's rarely taught and extremely complicated like a lot of civil wars.
Interesting. Have one myself as well.
Hey dit is die andere UA-camr van Rubens Proeflokaal, respect dat je dit naast lesgeven doet! ;)
Yes! Leuk dat je bericht. Ik ga jouw kanaal ook checken 👍
Great video. BZ
Get well soon
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What a brilliant channel! So informative.
Very nice to read. Thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustle I hope you get better very soon and also that peace will come to Ukraine 💙☀️
Indeed.
Great video! Keep up the good work and get well soon! Don’t be afraid to take a well earned rest.
Get well soon and thanks for this, it was a very informative video.
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"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
It's good to see someone on UA-cam who is teaching the actual history rather than going along with the disinformation and revisionist history.
Thanks for your reply Nick.
Without even watching your video, there were 12 Ukraines between 1917 and 1921, some of them existed on the same territory. So, when you say "Ukraine proclaimed independence" you need to specify which "Ukraine" and "independence" from what exactly. Also, revolutions of 1917 were not "Russian", they were bourgeois (in February) and socialist (in October) and happened in all corners of the former empire.
True. See my follow-up here:
ua-cam.com/video/6g4o3mILWao/v-deo.html
Today morning I was searching for short lived state video on Ukraine and here we're now
Yes, 4 for the price of one :)
Good video, get well soon!
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Hello , very well spoken , thank you !
Thanks for watching.
Nothing's ever simple is it? One thing I learned from traveling in Poland, the Baltics, and Central Europe in general is that while in the West we're taught that WWI ended in 1918, in Eastern and Central Europe it wasn't so cut and dry. People in Eastern and Central Europe never forgot about those years after the Armistice. The only conflict I remember being taught about of all the wars after November 11 1918 was the Russian Civil War.
Indeed, nothing's ever simple.
A complex problem, requires a simple solution. There is no such thing as a Country. Government is all the same. Its all Roman and we live in the Holy Roman Empire and they hide the truth. Religion is all satanic and is not real. The rulers use religion to con people and steal their identity, their authority and their wealth. Get Rid of "Religion"
Dude so sorry brother, you will be ok. I learned a lot on this one. Cheers, get well my man.
Thanks Otis.
Man, there's an insane amount of history behind Ukraine!
True.
Nazis in WW2 and old Aryan Culture.
Romans !!!!!
Thanks For Sharing (History Hustle) channel for explaining this Complicated -Complex history Decade & Neighborhoods for there Greedy interesting created this chronic crisis
Thanks for watching.
It seems like M. Muraviev had to play his own game. He was total against ukrainians and oether non-russian nations, what contradicted the positive national policy of the Bolsheviks. After last tsar-powers destrucktion in year 1918 he supported SR rebelion, wich wanted to remove the bolsheviks and complete the war with Germany. He also wanted to create an independet Volga "soviet" republic and used parts of the czech corps in his plan.
If you look at his Actions during the civil war, you will understand that he was absolutely a freaking maniac.
Thanks for sharing this additional information.
Hope you feel better.
I'm getting better slowly 💪
Nice work as always
thanks
You're really gifted to present history as a vivid, animated event. Thank you for sharing your original view.
I hope you recovered fully from this nasty flu.
I am better now, thank you for your reply!
@@HistoryHustle Glad to hear the good news ❤️💐👍
Love your channel. Great stuff. Stay strong Ukraine 🙏. Keep up the great work
Will do. Thank you!
@@HistoryHustle The fact is the former Ukrainian SSR was a well stitched country /replublic then/ during the Soviet time. The former Russian Empire regions - became in 1918 Odessa People Republic and Krivorzko-Donetski People Republic. Bear in mind - half of the people in Ukraine still speak russian language as a mother language. Before the Socialist Revolution there was Novorossya region in the Russian Empire .
I like this guy much much better than that brit on all of those other history channels. This feels just more natural.
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As an American of both Polish and Ukrainian ancestry, this is fascinating. Please be well, and take care of your health. May the Ukrainians stay strong and self determined in the face of the bully from the east.
May the Ukrainian stay strong in order that this artificial conglomerate "state" with borders created by "great humanitarians" of comrades Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev and nucleus started by Kaisers, may it stay strong in the face of a bully in order it can bully everybody and anybody who is not considered Ukrainian!
@John: thanks for your reply.
@nvzx Well well I agree but why it was not resolved in 1991? The same story as in Yugoslavia also in former Soviet Union. Each of the artificial "states" was overnight recognized in their artificial borders created by commie dictators by the West simply because it was considered as potentially anti Russian move, therefore highly desirable.
Ukraine were Nazis in WW2
@@victorvosoba6650 Ukraine held a national referendum in 1991 on whether to approve a Declaration of Independence. Ukraine voted overwhelmingly for Declaration of Independence from Moscow Kremlin rule: 90.32% of Ukrainians voted _for_ independence. 7.58% voted _against_ The closest region vote result was Crimea (except Sevastopol) but still by double-digits voted 54-42% margin for Ukrainian independence. Sevastopol voted 57-39% for independence. Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts both voted 84-13% for Ukrainian independence from Russia. Odessa voted 85-11%, Kharkiv voted 86-10%, Mykolaiv voted 89-8% for independent Ukraine. All other oblasts/cities voted >90% for Ukraine to declare independence and be free of Moscow domination. So the issue was in fact resolved-virtually unanimously-in 1991.
With this convoluted history a future partition of Ukraine seems in order. Hope you are feeling better.
Thanks for your reply. Tomorrow more on Ukraine.
This is especially relevant in light of Putin's claims that Ukraine has no right of existence as an independent, sovereign state.
It doesn't after sliding into Nazism twice in 70 years
Dear Stefan thank you for the informative video as always,
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. I am sorry to hear you have COVID, I can see you are under the weather. Please take care, look after yourself and get some rest🤒
Will do, thanks. You were much worse of I remember. Hope you're doing well now.
@@HistoryHustle Thanks Stefan had hospital stay for a week and long recovery. Long covid is a real thing, but not letting it get me down ✊
Thank you soooo much for this video. It has helped me clarify some things about my Ukrainian ancestry. I will need to watch it several times because it is so rich with information.
Thanks for watching!
I learned so much about Ukraine in this video. Thank you HH. Get well soon:)
Thanks!
You said “thanks” to HH??
I’m little confused since it looks like “Hile Hitler”
Sorry 😄
@@1227-z5w HH- History Hustle :)
Excellent. Look after yourself and get better soon.
Thanks!!
Great job! This added so much to my understanding of what's going g on now
Thanks for watching.
"WHY CAN'T WE JUST
GET ALONG"?
Yeah..
Get well soon mate 👍
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At that time Poland and Ukraine (particularly Western Ukraine) were fighting in 1918/1919 with each other for Lwów/Lviv. It was a strategic mistake - for which both sides paid dearly. It was used to the advantage of bolshevik russia.. It can be said that the bolsheviks survive ddue to this conflict between Poland and Western Ukraine. If Poland and Western Ukraine would managed to strike a deal (foir instance: Lviv is Yours and Borislav Industrial District is Ours or vice versa) then all the Polish and Ukrainian Forces would be thrown against bolshevic russia. And it would be a mighty force consisting of Polish very well trained and equipped "Blue Army" udnder Gen. Haller (100000 soldiers) and equally very well trained and well equipped Ukrainian Army UHC numberd 80000 soldiers. In confrontation with such a combined polish and ukrainia effort - bolsheviks would be smashed into pieces and the history of Poland, Ukraine and the whole World would look quite different. Fortunetely enough, eventually both Poland and Ukraine learned their respective lessons - and Today They stand together and strongly united against hydra of russian imperialism.
I am from Poland. From time to time I go by train to Przemyśl on the border with Ukraine. Usually during such a trip I chat a bit with Ukrainians Who travel to Their Country through Przemyśl. When We cross The San River in Przemyśl, just before the Railway Station, I alwas point to this river, explaining that this The River from The Ukrainian National Anthem: "Staniem Bratia w Boj kriwawyj od SANU do Donu, w ridnym kraju panowaty nie damy nikomu". Right now The first 54 kilometers of the run of The San river is the border between Poland and Ukraine. And this is a border of friendship. Through this border military equipment is going to Ukraine. There is no border issue between Poland and Ukraine. Lviv belongs to Ukraine and Przemysl belongs to Poland. And All the Poles and Ukrainians recognize this fact. But there is also the other river in the anthem: The Don River. And I think that in long perspective Ukraine should look into THAT DIRECTION following opinions of His GREAT Geopolitician Dmytro Doncow. At the end of this short remark I would like to say: Slava Ukraini! Slava Hierojam! Death to russian aggressors and imperialists!!! Greetings from Poland to Ukrainian Sisters and Brothers!!!!! Kijów - Warszawa, Wspólna Sprawa!!!!
Get well soon and be sure to take the time you need to rest!
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Although more than two months have passed since the release of this video-documentary I wish you well to your health and all the success to any of your endeavors!
Many thanks. I'm much better now!
@@HistoryHustle Many thanks for your efforts to school us about events of the past which affect us till this day.Take care your self sir!
Thank you very much for this video. I hope you make more Videos about Ukraine, because of what is sadly going on there right now.
Thanks for sharing your message Thanos.
@@HistoryHustle Your welcome. I hope you will recover soon from Covid.
What is going on? War? Where? Over there? Over where? lol So, its over there and its not your problem? or its not your fault and its over there and you stand where? Over there also? lol
Hope you're feeling less sick in the meantime. At the moment I'm staying home with covid and watch your UA-cam movies ☺
Getting better 💪
Thanks.
this man got the drip.
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I'm starting to understand why the Ukrainians hate the Ruzzians so much (...and so do the Poles, the Czech, etc).
They have a long history.
Hope you get better soon
Me too, still kinda sick but I slowly recover. Thanks.
You are definitely brilliant and methodical. Please get well.
Thanks Tina.