Why Were There FOUR Ukraines in 1918?
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- How did Ukraine proclaimed independence in 1918? After the Russian Revolution (1917) the Ukrainian People's Republic (also known as the Ukrainian National Republic; the UNR) was established. When Bolshevik Russia and Germany signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk it left Ukraine in the German sphere of influence with Pavlo Skoropadskyi as Hetman of Ukraine. Apart from the UNR the West Ukrainian People's Republic was established in Eastern Galicia. This republic was soon overrun by the Polish forces in the Polish-Ukrainian War (1918 - 1919). Meanwhile White Russian troops fought against the Red (as part of the Russian Civil War). The White Russian forces were attacked by the Black Army of Nestor Machno who had an area called the Free Territory of Ukraine (Makhnovshchina).
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- Russia in Flames. War, Revolution, Civil War 1914 - 1921 (Laura Engelstein).
- A People's Tragedy. A History of the Russian Revolution (Orlando Figes).
- The Vanquished, Why the First World War Failed to End, 1917-1923 (Robert Gerwarth).
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The History of Ukrainian Territory
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Ukrainian War of Independence (1917 - 1921)
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Ukrainian Collaboration with Germany in WW2 (1941 - 1945)
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Really enjoyed this video, this is one of the only channels which covers the often overlooked side of history. I hope the current invasion will end and I hope you recover from Covid
Very nice to read, thanks for these kind words.
@@HistoryHustle You have Covid? Oh god! I wish you the best luck!
@@HistoryHustle beterschap 🙏
Do you really believe that you will be able to wash away such a terrible historical stain with this kind of "answer"? No, gentlemen Petliurists, you are mistaken. You will never succeed ...
When ataman Paliyenko cut out three hundred Jewish souls in January 1919 in Berdichev and Zhytomyr; when Simosenko cut out almost three thousand souls in February in Proskurov and Felshtin; when Volynets cut out three hundred souls in July in Litin and Letich on Podolia; when at the same time Shepel cut out four hundred in Khmelnik and Kalinovka on the same Podolia souls; when the Greens cut out five hundred souls in August in the town of Pogrebishchi in the Kiev region; when in the summer of the same year, a whole thousand victims fell at the hands of the rebels in the town of Gorodishchi in the Kiev region; when the rebels cut out in March 1920. more than two thousand Jewish poor in the town of Tetiev , all in the same Kiev region and so on . D. and T. D. without end and edge ... - t a k in the name of what"they did it all?
Wasn't it in the name of the slogan you threw at them: "Down with Soviet power, long live independent Ukraine" that they committed all these terrible crimes? Did not the "sacred" yellow-blackite banners handed to them by you flutter high above their heads during these bloody "deeds"? Wasn't your chauvinistic hymn "Ukraine has not died yet" just then "victoriously" poured out of their breasts and still could not drown out the terrible screams rushing to the sky, the inhuman groans of tens of thousands of unfortunate victims tortured by them?
www.docdroid.net/8AFQyNx/pinkhos-krasnyi-tragediya-ukrainskogo-yevreistva-kiev-1928-pdf
You have been doing a great job for years, covering the complicated history of this part of Europe, so often ignored, misrepresented or oversimplified. Today the World is finally taking an interest in it but for the worst reasons.
Get well soon Stefan!
Stay strong free Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Many thanks Artur! 🇺🇦
@nvzx as it was. Doesn’t look like that anymore thanks to Bandera
Most of West Ukraine belongs to Poland, particularly LWOW.
@@libertyoverbondage So give Canada back to Britain 😂
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It's still part of the UK, it's a self governing colony, or a Dominion.
The official head of state is the sovereign of the UK.
The legal system and social structure etc is British.
We even speak English!!!!
Ukraine IS Kyivan-Rus'. This is historically obscured by the fact that the Mongol raids massacred 90% of the Kyivan population and the state did not emerge again for many centuries because of its diminished existence and decimated population. During the "dark ages" of Kyiv other states like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austro-Hungarians and Muscovia divided up Kyivan land and occupied it. The ignoring of this fact is Russia's main argument that Ukraine isn't a real place even though Ukrainians still use the same symbols as the original kingdom, while these ancient symbols are banned in Russia and labelled as "nazi symbols" for their Kremlin propaganda. The Ukrainian tryzub symbol was used 1000 years ago by Kyivan kings. Russia is desperate to suppress Kyiv from rising from the ashes since they claim to be the descendants of the kingdom they helped destroy. This information getting sorted out in public would basically the condemn entire Russian Empire trilogy as an imperialist political hoax.
Damn, ukrainian history rewriting...
And what? All European nations are using Indian symbols, does that mean all Europeans came from India?
And yet it was the Kievan Rus and not Ukraine. The only connection "Ukrainians" have to the kievan rus is that they control Kiev and larp the symbols. The term Ukrainian only referred to land and not a people until the mid 1800s. The current flag was also invented in the 1800s along with Ukrainian nationalism. The Russian tricolor has been used on modern "Ukrainian" territory longer than the blue and yellow flag has even existed. Taras Shevshenko never even used the word "Ukrainian" to refer to a people, he considered himself a Russian. The entirety of Southern Malorussia was depopulated by Turkish raids until Russia liberated it and founded the Russian cities of Odessa, Melitopol, Sevastopol, Tiraspol, Mariupol, Ekaterinaslav, Nikolaev, Aleksandrovsk, Elisavetgrad, Symferopol and Kherson. This was accomplished over the course of hundreds of years of wars between Russia and Poland-Lithuania and Turkey. Without Russia, Southern Malorussia would be Turkish. Central and West Malorussia would be a Catholic Polish colony.
@@TsaristCossack Where are you pretending Ukrainian people came from? Out of nowhere? Why is Moscva so far away from the center of the empire they claim retroactively? You think Vladivostok and Novgorod are the same country? Delusional imperialist
@UhtredOfBamburgh The correct historical term is Malorussian, a term coined by the Byzantines. Belarussians, Malorussians and Russians descend from the Russian people of the Kievan Rus, which was a slavic Orthodox Empire, so imperialist is a compliment to me. Also the correct name is Kievan Rus, not "kyivan". Using contemporary Malorussian pronunciation is ahistorical here. Modern Russian language is closer to old Slavonic than modern Malorussian. Siberia and much of the Russian far east were discovered/ settled by Cossacks (Malorussians).
Thank you. Greetings from Kharkiv!
Stay strong 🇺🇦
Ukrainian history is complicated and fascinating. Have you considered making a video during the lead up to WW2 and WW2 itself from Ukraines perspective as well? Beforehand though, rest up and feel better! Appreciate your efforts and your vidoes.
Hi Jay, I have this video for your I think you will find interesting:
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@@HistoryHustle oh nice! I can't believe I missed that. I really appreciate it bud.
Wishing you a quick recovery. Your videos are so informative, thank you for making them.👍💕
You're welcome. Thanks Cindi.
Excellent presentation of an extremely complex topic. Thank you for this timely episode.
You're welcome, thanks 👍🏻
Thank you for your great videos, Stefan. I wish you a speedy recovery.
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This is one of those informative and entertaining episodes of yours sir. Keep it up sir
Great to read.
Get well soon! I appreciate your efforts on this video in spite of being so sick. Thanks for the hard work!
Thank you, Frank.
A particularly difficult area to cover during this period, with all the various armies forming and breaking alliances with each other. not to mention the several ethnicities involved. Yeah I thought you weren't your usual chirpy self. Get well soon, I'm looking forward to the Makhno episode.
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A very tumultuous time, with many conflicting interests.
It was a nice video, I hope you're feeling better!
Indeed. Thanks for your reply.
Thank you Stefan for making this interesting video. I wish you a quick recovery.
Thanks 👍🏻
Your dedication astounds me. Well done. I hope you recover quickly from Covid.
Thanks Tris.
@@HistoryHustle You're welcome, Stefan!
Thank you for hanging in there hope you are well soon
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As always, very informative and interesting.
Thank you, Galahad!
Thanks for your great videos ! Get well soon Stefan.
Thank you, Paul.
@@HistoryHustle Bedankt voor zo'n fantastisch kanaal !!
Get well soon and thanks for this, it was a very informative video.
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I enjoy the Hustle, one of the best shows out there. I hope u feel better soon and look forward to future shows
Let's hope so Aaron. Thanks!
Thanks for the vid!
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Get better soon and take a break. Sending hugs from Dublin,Ireland. I so enjoyed this, sorry our gain was your pain. REST!
Thanks Saida.
Nice work as always
thanks
Hope you get well soon Stefan.
Thanks! I'm recovering.
Wishing for you, Stefan, a speedy recovery.
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Get better soon!
Thank you, Mario!
Maybe a future topic, Stefan, if you have not covered yet I remember something in your previous videos about these anarchist brothers:
"Nestor Ivanovych Makhno November 8 [O.S. October 27] 1888 - July 25, 1934), also known as Bat'ko Makhno was a Ukrainian anarchist revolutionary and the commander of an independent anarchist army in Ukraine from 1917 to 1921." Wikipedia.
Obrigado! 🇧🇷
Will cover that one day for sure.
Great video! Keep up the good work and get well soon! Don’t be afraid to take a well earned rest.
Get well soon Stefan. You have done a great job.
Thank you!
That period around the end of ww1 was very difficult for Ukraine. They didn't gain independence. Hope they don't loose it now and that peace comes as fast as possible.
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@nvzx What do you mean FFA?
Wonder that as well...
Problem is, that for centuries big part of Ukraine was FFA. And with fall of Turkish and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth influence after Russia gained importance, the Eastern Ukraine fell to Tsars. It's hard to distinguish if Ukraine and it's people felt as an separate identity from rest of Tsar Russia and Moscovia, mainly because nobody questioned Russian rule untill Bolsheviks Revolution and later Stalin's rule. I guess many Ukranians in 1930s, and then in 1946-47 started to despise Stalin and Russians for the mass starvation and repressions. I feel many want their nation to be treated as an equal partner, not a slave of Russians and their tsars.
@@markobavdek9450We (Ukraine) are a US colony. Independence is only on paper. Our Ukraine has been ruled by the United States of America since 1991. The US Central Intelligence Agency admitted that it took 60 years to destroy the Soviet Union. After that, they govern each former republic separately. Only Putin was able to snatch Russia from the influence of the United States. Now Russia is at war not with Ukraine, but with the United States on the territory of Ukraine. We have over 50 US military bases in Ukraine near Russia's borders, concentration camps for civilians, and Nazism against the Ukrainian population that speaks Russian.
Thanks Stefan. A little known piece of history that is relevant to contemporary events. As always you are concise and objective. Keep well.
Thanks George!
Great job! This added so much to my understanding of what's going g on now
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this wonderful history lesson. Please take care do yourself. Peace and light to your spirit. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for your kind words.
Fascinating! Thank you
Thanks 👍🏻
Excellent job. Very insightful. It's very important to put Ukraine history into perspective. This really puts the pieces together. Thanks
Thanks for your reply.
What a brilliant channel! So informative.
Very nice to read. Thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustle I hope you get better very soon and also that peace will come to Ukraine 💙☀️
Indeed.
Great reporting.
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Refreshingly unbiased and thorough introduction to this difficult topic. I wish more people would take the trouble to know the history of this region.
Thanks for watching.
Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks 👍
Great video. BZ
Get well soon
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Hello , very well spoken , thank you !
Thanks for watching.
First, I'm sorry to hear that you're ill. Do your best to take care of yourself, and ignore any ding dongs. This topic is a course in itself, as it is just one complex part of the even more complex Russian Civil War and Russo-Polish War. You did a good job on the absolute basics, and I'm glad you mentioned Makhno, who usually gets ignored, but played a bigger part in this era than most people know. OK, hoping you heal soon, take care and no ding dong until you're better...
Thanks for your reply. Ding dong! :)
“Nah man Lets make a fourth Ukraine”
- Some guy
lol
Thanks Stefan I love your lessons
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@@HistoryHustle I wish people would watch something like this before listening to the MSM getting emotional then passing on the propaganda they just viewed
@@HistoryHustle but I guess that’s exactly why propaganda exists
Get well Stefan and thank you.
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Word snel weer beter.
Thank you for your work to create this video.
Appreciated.
Dank Daniel!
Thanks For Sharing (History Hustle) channel for explaining this Complicated -Complex history Decade & Neighborhoods for there Greedy interesting created this chronic crisis
Thanks for watching.
Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine:
Rus' ought not to be confused with modern “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus' but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus'.
Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, “Russia” is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise.
Its name “Russia" received only around 1721, when Peter I simply changed Muscovy’s name into the “All Russian Empire” (Russia originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Rus')
Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves Russian.
Lands that Russia (Muscovy) claims were part of the original Rus', but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus'. They can be considered parts of extended Rus', although their culture was distinct from main Rus'.
In 1493, Muscovite duke Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus'. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus' ownership.
“Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and Russian (Muscovite) historians have been trying to say for years. A Slavicised Finnic, then later, Mongolized offshoot. Kyiv was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village.
Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what Russia (Muscovy) did in regards to Rus'-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
I am glad I bumped into your presentation I learned a lot about Ukraine and it’s History which can easily gives anyone a nervous breakdown. XXI century should and must be Time for independent and sovereign Ukraine. Reconstruction help will come that is one thing I am sure about.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks 😘🇺🇦
From Ukraine...
Get well soon, Professor! Outstanding synopsis of the end of WW1 Ostfront in Ukraine and the rise of the various competing states and nations over the region. 💯👍❗
Glad you found this interesting. More on it later!
@@HistoryHustle , I look forward to it! 👍
In your video, you talked about four Ukraines. I will add that during the Russian civil war, the Ukrainians fought for the Ukrainians (Petlyura and Skoropadsky, who were at enmity with each other) reds, whites, greens and ukrainian warlords, blacks (Makhnovists), Poles. Finally Western Ukrainians disagreed with the Ukrainians. Very often there was desertion from one side to the other side. It seems that people were indifferent to ideologies and followed those in whom they felt strength and the restoration of their former life. I came to the conclusion long ago that Russians and Ukrainians had a deep identity crisis at the beginning of the 20th century and it seems that they have not yet formed as ethnic groups. This was an important reason for the victory of the Bolsheviks.
Thanks for sharing this. Today more on this topic!
Ukrainians and Russians are one, they are the mix of the Slavic tribes and the Anglo-Saxon s/Scandinavians/Vikings and so is the majority of the baltics. Their fighting is nothing new, they fought from the start as the Kievan Russ with the capitals changing from kyiv to Moscow to another city in the baltics or Saint Petersburg today, then the one that United them had sons and gave them each kyiv moscow and the third city which led to fighting again ultimately the one in moscow won and thus the russian empire started which included the baltics ukraine and the polish lithuanian common wealth, moldova romania and i think even parts of the balkans for a while, it was basically bordering turkey on both sides of the black sea
You're really gifted to present history as a vivid, animated event. Thank you for sharing your original view.
I hope you recovered fully from this nasty flu.
I am better now, thank you for your reply!
@@HistoryHustle Glad to hear the good news ❤️💐👍
@@HistoryHustle Ukrainazzi are Caput. Demon NATO and $$$$ATAN ruled U$$$A should of signed , " The Minsk agreement "! Now it's toooo late
Good video, get well soon!
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My only still living grandparent is of Ukrainian ancestry!
Interesting!
@@HistoryHustle Thanks!
Now that's commitment! Stepping over oneself, to provide historical background in this horrible war! Hats off teach! Respect! (Speaking of hats, this one suits you ;-)
Get well soon Stefan!
Greets from the North 🌷, T.
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Thank you so much. The history of centuries of conflict in Europe is very confusing yet vital to understanding what is happening in the present.
Thank you for watching.
Very thorough, thank you. It would be interesting if you could talk about the part of Ukraine that became part of Czechoslovakia and subsequently what happened to Ruthenians.
Thank you for watching, Roman.
Are you teaching history or explaining the current situation? You make history look likes breaking news. ....A excellent job again Stefan. To bad that history is a so under estimated subject at school.
Thanks. This is history.
History has been hidden and mixed up so much, its hard to know what is real and what isnt
It would be interesting, the historical and political FACTS, about the countries, that once were the BLOCK behind the Iron Curtain...
All the manipulation and fabricated confrontation, of countries that once were brothers.... especially by someone, who isn't even European...
Tendrás los cojones, cómo para hacerlo.??✌️🍀
Love your channel. Great stuff. Stay strong Ukraine 🙏. Keep up the great work
Will do. Thank you!
@@HistoryHustle The fact is the former Ukrainian SSR was a well stitched country /replublic then/ during the Soviet time. The former Russian Empire regions - became in 1918 Odessa People Republic and Krivorzko-Donetski People Republic. Bear in mind - half of the people in Ukraine still speak russian language as a mother language. Before the Socialist Revolution there was Novorossya region in the Russian Empire .
Although more than two months have passed since the release of this video-documentary I wish you well to your health and all the success to any of your endeavors!
Many thanks. I'm much better now!
@@HistoryHustle Many thanks for your efforts to school us about events of the past which affect us till this day.Take care your self sir!
Look after yourself, Stefan. Thanks for your videos.
Will do, thanks.
Mate you are a bloody champion and I send you the best of 'get well ' wishes from Australia. So many times you have educated and entertained me and stimulated my own passion for 20th century history. So pleased to see you covering the extraordinary days of early revolutionary Ukraine, it was actually fiction that taught of the crazy adventures of the anarchists (greens?); Nestor Makno, the reds etc etc. So if you want a fun read while your getting better I'd recommend Michael Moorcock and his Cornell Pyat series. I'm sorry to hear how present-day events have upset you and I wish you all the best!
Thanks Warwick!
You are just confused. Ukraine was Nazi in WW2
@@je-freenorman7787 yes mate maybe certain parts were sympathetic in WW2, I however am talking about the Russian civil war period in 1920 etc!
@@warwickmudge4114 If you look at the Russian Coat of Arms, the double headed Eagle is a symbol of the Holy Roman Empire. How many other places do you see the Eagle with 1 or 2 heads? The UK Royals are related to the Russian Royals. The Windsors also used to be the Saxe Coburg and Gotha line and they changed their name to Windsor after the castle, to hide that they are Germans, before the war started . We have all been deceived
@@warwickmudge4114 Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. and they were Nazi in WW2 . Prussians etc . Its all Aryan Culture
Interesting and sadly very relevant at this time.
Take care and get well soon.
Thanks David!
A very interesting period of history. WW1 didn't really end in Eastern Europe, as communist revolutions and the Russian civil war continued for years afterwards.
Agree, glad you find this as well.
World war 1 and 2 were Phony wars. Set up by the Royals etc
Love this channel.
A big salute from México
Many thanks, Carlos!
Perfect as usual and peace and freedom for Ukraine!
Thanks for replying.
Ukraine is not free. They have a Nazi Government
Hope you feel better.
I'm getting better slowly 💪
Thank you soooo much for this video. It has helped me clarify some things about my Ukrainian ancestry. I will need to watch it several times because it is so rich with information.
Thanks for watching!
Today morning I was searching for short lived state video on Ukraine and here we're now
Yes, 4 for the price of one :)
Interesting, enjoy history. But know very little about this area.
Glad you find it interesting.
Stay safe Stefan, thank you for sharing your knowledge and history updates 🇺🇦💙💛👍
=) Jesse
Cheers, Jesse!
Hope you get well, the best wishes for Ukraine
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Dude so sorry brother, you will be ok. I learned a lot on this one. Cheers, get well my man.
Thanks Otis.
With this convoluted history a future partition of Ukraine seems in order. Hope you are feeling better.
Thanks for your reply. Tomorrow more on Ukraine.
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
It's good to see someone on UA-cam who is teaching the actual history rather than going along with the disinformation and revisionist history.
Thanks for your reply Nick.
Excellent. Look after yourself and get better soon.
Thanks!!
Also in the Far East was "Zeleni Klin" or "Green Ukraine" on English. So we have 5 Ukrainian states
Soon more on this.
Here is my video about Green Ukraine:
ua-cam.com/video/-cXX-3qcWk0/v-deo.html
Raspberry Ukraine
I have about 20 banknotes from Ukraine in that period. It's interesting learning about this period of history as it's rarely taught and extremely complicated like a lot of civil wars.
Interesting. Have one myself as well.
Hey, zou je een keer een video over de opstand van Pattimura op de Molukken kunnen maken? Ik ben familie van hem dus dat zou veel voor me betekenen😄
Niet binnenkort, helaas. Ik heb deze video voor je:
ua-cam.com/video/EjcNA06DSbI/v-deo.html
Dear Stefan thank you for the informative video as always,
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. I am sorry to hear you have COVID, I can see you are under the weather. Please take care, look after yourself and get some rest🤒
Will do, thanks. You were much worse of I remember. Hope you're doing well now.
@@HistoryHustle Thanks Stefan had hospital stay for a week and long recovery. Long covid is a real thing, but not letting it get me down ✊
I learned so much about Ukraine in this video. Thank you HH. Get well soon:)
Thanks!
You said “thanks” to HH??
I’m little confused since it looks like “Hile Hitler”
Sorry 😄
@@user-um1tj5nm1g HH- History Hustle :)
Hope you're feeling less sick in the meantime. At the moment I'm staying home with covid and watch your UA-cam movies ☺
Getting better 💪
Thanks.
You are definitely brilliant and methodical. Please get well.
Thanks Tina.
It seems like M. Muraviev had to play his own game. He was total against ukrainians and oether non-russian nations, what contradicted the positive national policy of the Bolsheviks. After last tsar-powers destrucktion in year 1918 he supported SR rebelion, wich wanted to remove the bolsheviks and complete the war with Germany. He also wanted to create an independet Volga "soviet" republic and used parts of the czech corps in his plan.
If you look at his Actions during the civil war, you will understand that he was absolutely a freaking maniac.
Thanks for sharing this additional information.
Eastern Europe from 1918 to 1922 was such a mess
Indeed.
Get well soon mate 👍
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thumb's up from me but you should expleind what hetman (it's like headman) is...just in case
Hope you get better soon
Me too, still kinda sick but I slowly recover. Thanks.
Without even watching your video, there were 12 Ukraines between 1917 and 1921, some of them existed on the same territory. So, when you say "Ukraine proclaimed independence" you need to specify which "Ukraine" and "independence" from what exactly. Also, revolutions of 1917 were not "Russian", they were bourgeois (in February) and socialist (in October) and happened in all corners of the former empire.
True. See my follow-up here:
ua-cam.com/video/6g4o3mILWao/v-deo.html
My grandfather was deeply involved with the First Rada, Brest-Litovsk and later Directory governments. And he was still in his teens at the time being born in 1899. You did a great job of explaining the exceedingly complex situation that existed. One thing certainly hasn't changed is the Russian government's attitude towards Ukrainians. Set up rival goverment taking orders directly from Moscow, then use it as justification for violence and repression. One thing that has changed is Europe is vastly different now than it was in the aftermath of WW 1, with both Poland and modern Germany supporting a free, sovereign Ukrainian nation. Let us hope the last century of misery will not be revisited on this country which has struggled so long.
"Set up rival government taking orders directly from Moscow,"? What exactly do you think happened back in 2014, when the US sponsored a (F#$k the EU) coup to oust Yanukovych? Ukraine should have never existed in it's current form, it should have been dealt with in 1991 along with the Crimean issue. Maybe you should read some of the ramblings of the Rand Corporation and the Brookings institute to see who is really behind all of this.
You are right now Europe is really very different from Europe after the First World War. In order to rob, it is no longer necessary to seize and annex territories ;)
" this country which has struggled so long."? Well, it never was a "country" until 1991! Yes they certainly "struggled, they "struggled", well, more like jostled among the ruling class themselves as to see who rip off the citizens that were now in possession of all of the Soviet State owned businesses and infrastructure, yes the Oligarch class "struggled" to get their grubby hands on the state owned asserts and exploit the Ukrainian people! Don't try to blame someone else!
You ever think that maybe the people under 'the rival government' don't consider themselves Borderlanders?
Get well soon and be sure to take the time you need to rest!
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"WHY CAN'T WE JUST
GET ALONG"?
Yeah..
Man, there's an insane amount of history behind Ukraine!
True.
Nazis in WW2 and old Aryan Culture.
Romans !!!!!
Feel better!
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UNR WAS not an autonomous within russia!
It was proclaimed as independant state and internationally recognised as such in Brest Treaty. Russia was not existing by the time Ukraine signed that treaty .
It was autonomous within Russia after the February Revolution. What you mentioned is after the October Revolution.
@@HistoryHustle No. You are actually butchering the factual history. As a Ukrainian I feel disgusted that some westerners are that cheap and "slow" to actually serve ruSSian propaganda. 20 rubbles is 20 rubbles, comrad pinko?
I refer to my sources.
@@HistoryHustle yeah, "sources" witch you has never shown nor named. FYI the very first capital of Ukraine by that was not in Kyiv. I am Ukrainian and my sources say that that you are pro-russian pinko, you nazis has no moral values, and and your opinion is just a matter of 20 rubbles. FO
@@thealphazoid *barks in ukrainian
Hey dit is die andere UA-camr van Rubens Proeflokaal, respect dat je dit naast lesgeven doet! ;)
Yes! Leuk dat je bericht. Ik ga jouw kanaal ook checken 👍
Great job. Thank you for being neutral and objective.
this man got the drip.
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This was a very interesting but confusing period of history for Eastern Europe and Russia. So many states coming and going in the blink of an eye many of which barely controlled a fraction of the land they claimed.
It was for sure. In case you're interested in an overview video I made earlier, check out this one:
ua-cam.com/video/gRRNVP_WDew/v-deo.html
The Royal Society is Nazi. Does that help with your confusion?
The real problem is "Religion"
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