"Green Ukraine" remains widely known in Ukraine to this day thanks to the writer and political prisoner of the USSR Ivan Bahrianyi, who wrote the adventure novel "Tiger Trappers". Many Ukrainians consider it the most interesting book among all the literature they read at school. Unfortunately, "Gray and Yellow Ukraines" get a lot less attention, so I was very happy to see such a great and informative video from you! Thanks!
For me, the most interesting book is Ostap Vyshnya, Kobzar or Ivan Franko, but here is a book that you have never mentioned or heard of. Maybe my ancestors read, because I just recently entered the first year of college.
@wandomwindow In English, it is better known under the name "Pink Ukraine". And as for the Ukrainian language, it seems to me that now we usually just say Kuban. Our people mostly know that there were once many Ukrainians living on this territory, but the name "Raspberry Ukraine / Malynovyi Klyn" has fallen out of use
Yes, people miss the colonial nature of russian empire. Ukrainians getting into Kuban' is especially sad tale with Cossacks first being exiled to Crimea and Black Sea shores, then FROM THERE, to North Caucasus which was had 90% of native Circassians killed or deported by russian army beforehand.
As a descendant of Green Ukrainians, I couldn't find any mention of deportation\force migration even on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Same goes for the stories people say here - that people moved here due to Stolypin's reforms and promised land domains. But feel free to prove me wrong, please
Most of these people actually migrated by their own will, and because it would give more land and freedom in the east, than inside Ukraine. They just looked for a better life.
Coercion is still a mild deportation. Language prohibitions, ban on private property, imprisonment for cultural diversity, and ethnic-based racism was very strong on the 'original' Ukraine. People moved away 'on their own' to run from oppression.
@@mykolamelnychuk1523exactly! My great grand parents migrated to southern Siberia in around 1905 because they would be given free land there. Not only my great grandpa migrated from Chernihiv but my great grandma migrated from Ryazan(it’s in European part of Russia)
@@ayararesara6253 yeah, just the whole "go there or get beaten" is typically refered as deportation, same way the people that go "love me or i will beat you" is considered rape in every case
I’m mixed half and half Kazakh and Ukrainian and my ancestors came to Kazakhstan to Seryi Klin (grey Ukraine) 150 years ago. Thank you for highlighting the history of my family.
Oh, definitely; I’ve been thinking about doing some on the Volga Germans for a while...maybe the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic or just a more general video.
It’s definitely an overlooked chapter of European/German/Russian history; so, it hits a lot of check marks and yeah, I’d personally like to know more about the Volga Germans’ story!
@@GhostCountries Well, they were invited to farm lands in the Russian empire, and did so. But when Canada’s prairie was the “last best best”; they went to such. They ended up in Saskatchewan and were baptized Lutherans. All in around ~1900(10)
most of Volga Germans were marked by Soviet authorities as "spies" and in fear of them supporting the Nazi Germany, authorities moved them far east.Most of them,matter of fact, were deported to Kazakhstan in Akmolinsk region where in 1980-1990 there were around 0.8-1.5 million germans living there.Most of them though started to repatriate after 1991 when Kazakhstan gained independence.
One of my grand-grand mothers have been deported by soviets for being too wealthy. So she was deported close to China. City called Shimanovsk. Most of those people you are talking about were forced to move far east, leaving such a fertile land and moving to wild and harsh environment.
Кстати довольно значительная часть Кубани до сих пор говорит на суржике (что-то среднее между русским и украинским). В основном на хуторах и станицах, но все же
If they were internationally recognized countries, they'd be pretty unique; not a lot of colours in the names of nations. Also, perfectly inline with "borderlands" and the flag of UA being the literal landscape. As a person a country titled "the low country" (from back when we were ruled from the Alps and called "the lands over there" in French) we aren't great with naming either; as i'm in a province transliterated as "accross the river Yssel" ("Overijssel", from the perspective of the western netherlands) in a town which etymology is "on the border" ("An De Schende" became Enschede), I think the landscape-colorcoded borderlands are more imaginiative lol
@@jezusbloodie I mean, the word "Ukraine" itself can be translated as In-Country. So, I guess that explains why I, as a Ukrainian, like the name of Overijssel, lol.
thanks for your work and educating on the subject. as a Ukrainian myself I gotta admit this is not something generally well known to an ordinary Ukrainian in Ukraine. the history of autonomous and independent states inside russian mainland isn’t generally taught in school which is a big mistake. the exception is a novel “Tiger Trappers” by Ukrainian author Bahrianyi, the plot of which is set up in Green Wedge. the adventure novel is part of school program and is one of most loved and valued among high schoolers and even adults.
Greetings from Kazakhstan! I am from the north (Qostanai), where Ukrainians are common. Most of russians of northern Kazakhstan are assimilated Ukrainians in fact. People here talk with specific Ukrainian h sound instead of g, also we have some Ukrainian words here, even penetrating to Kazakh language
Thanks Tommy; yeah, our first episode on the channel actually was a more in-depth look into Green Ukraine (and the FER), but there was a lot more to the story!
@@GhostCountries As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia.
0:47 honestly I'm not the expert on history of Ukraine, but I think most were just taken by force to move them to some other lands and sometimes prisons, rather than if it would've been their own choice
Keep in mind that 1897 census didn't consider your ethnicity, only the language you speak (they called it dialect), and if you were literate (could read and write in russian, because writing and teaching in Ukrainian was forbidden) - you automatically were considered as russain speaker. Hence, the actual number of ethic Ukrainians was much higher everywhere.
As a Ukrainian, I really heard about "Yellow" and "Grey" of Ukraine for the first time. Sometimes it is interesting to think about the topic "what if...", knowing such pages of the history of one's own country.
@@sergeiivanovich6827 So I did not study in a Soviet school (fortunately). I already studied Ukrainian... and now I understand that I should have paid more attention to history lessons. I was a stupid kid.
I live in Kuban region for my whole life. In our schools, we study the whole history of Kuban region and Kuban cossacks. It’s got its own subject. It names “Кубановедение” (Кубань - Kuban, ведение - studying) So, every schoolboy (schoolgirl) from Kuban knows about “green Ukraine” (never heard this word combination before). I know about repressions of Ukrainian and other nations people, but never knows about other Ukrainian republics, except Ukrainian and Kuban peoples republics. Thx for info, bro I’ll sub your channel P.s. There may be grammatical mistakes. Not so good in English language
Oh, no problem whatsoever; glad we could shine a bit of light on a less well-known chapter of history. Actually, we’re planning to eventually do a proper episode on the Kuban People’s Republic at some point. So, it’s pretty cool to know one of our subscribers is actually from the region!
@@GhostCountries not one I’m also here. And I’ve made a content analysis of our Kuban studies (кубановедение) school book, and it’s so russified, russia is trying to make us forget who we are!!
Before doing work on the episode that jump started the channel (Green Ukraine), I didn't know about them either. Still, the amount of new information on the "other Ukraines" I discovered in while doing the episode was...well, more than I would've thought!
Oh, no problem and I’m glad you liked the video! 🙌 We’re definitely planning to cover the Kuban People’s Republic in a full-length episode at some point as well, since there’s a lot more to that chapter of history we’d like to explore.
@@GhostCountries that’d be awesome because right now the world recognizes Kuban as a legal part of russia, which should not be the case because it is de-facto an occupied territory, a colony of moscow, while we have our own identity russia is trying to erase. Only spreading the information about this, can help us gain our independence one day.
As a Ukrainian I’m grateful for telling more about our history to the whole world🇺🇦🔱 Hope you will visit our country after victory and enjoy our hospitality☝️
I recently watched a video about Ukrainians in Russia. For example, many older people in the Kuban (especially in the villages) speak Ukrainian. For anyone who has heard Ukrainian, this is obvious. But they are embarrassed to admit that it is Ukrainian and call it the local dialect of Russian. It's a pity.
Actually In Kuban, and in Green Klyn, there even emerged some Ukrainian culture organisations after fall of USSR. But after Putin became president, he started de-ukrainisation with Putinism ideology and those organisation were dismantled.
Russians in the Kuban do not speak Ukrainian, but simply speak with a slight accent, which in our country is called "southern" and has little in common with the Ukrainian language. Don't spread nonsense if you don't know what you're talking about
Actually, believe it or not, there's some sort of thing where there's a little Ukrainian State in Canada called White Ukraine. The flag is pretty much the same as Green and Grey Ukraine, but instead of it being Green or Gray on the flag, it's White. It's within the Provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan, as more Ukrainians live in the Prairies of Canada than in other Urban Areas to the East of them.
Most Ukrainians in Canada came there before WWI even. They were ethnically Ukrainian but even in the censuses they put down their nationality as "austrian"@@untje
не дякую, а спасибi. Учи настоящий украинский язык. И книжки читай, в оригинале, напечатанные в 19 веке, хотя бы открой Энеиду в википедии и сравни с сегодняшним литературным языком, на котором не писали. Вот она, антирусская мова.
@@ashotvanshot5 dауніщє, «спасибі» це русифіковане слово, яке має на меті зменшити різницю між укр та рос. це імперська зброя по знищенню української ідентичності. шо ти, впн норм знайшов щоб в ютубі сидіти? "сверх державець"
@@rolandsheroziya спаси бог -- это славянское слово, как и хвала и благодарю. А Дякую -- польское, от германских данке и тхенк. Онемеченный ты наш. Тебе историю Хмельницкого напомнить? Думаешь, казаки с удовольствием использовали польские слова, а не слова из древнерусского и церковнославянского(как латынь для славян)? Ты посмотри на купюру сто хривен, и там Шевченко писал время и минута. Видимо славяне не умели красить одежду, поэтому использовали слово фарбуваты, от немецкого слова фарбэ.
И при этом вы из себя тру-славян строите, со словами майдан и отоман. Ничего, южнее чёрного моря есть отоманская империя, сейчас называется Турцией, в каждом городе там статую Аттатюрка, что переводится как отец тюрок. Да вы часто на турков похожи и наоборот, вы часто такие скуластые и черноволосые из-за татарского и тюркского влияния. Потому вы похожи на великоросов уралидов(точнее вы Понтиды). Вы даже не знаете, что первая столица Руси -- Старая Ладога, Рюриково Городище и Новгород. Потом дружинник Рюрика Ольгерд взял Киев. Монголы всадники, лошадям надо кушать траву, а не хвойные иголки, поэтому они не лезли на север, но прокладывали дороги, а все полустепные земли были опустошены, т.к. они часто не входили в Русь, они были названы Новороссией, постепенно они заселялись русскими(включая киевских), но место было опасное, как дикий запад, их атаковали татары и уводили в рабство и наложницы или наоборот, туда бежали ушкуйники, дети боярские и бедные паны и дворяне, их боевые навыки пригодились, и они стали называться казаками, но изначально в 14 веке они были татары. Они не хотели никому подчиняться, а Польша и Московия выстроили из них берьер от кочевников, который плавно пермещался на юг, но казаки не были самодостаточны как империи, поэтому со временем переходили на службу и становились реестровыми/городовыми или отдельным сословием. А между Польшей и Московией была область уКраина, что значит фронтир, что и описывается выше. Западенцы вообще не украинцы, т.к. имеют иную историю, религию, язык, мировоззрение, их попытка насадить это на всех, вызвало новую Руину, которой воспользовались соседние державы.
I just now realized how it happened that my great-grandfather is Ukrainian, with love from Tatarstan. Мин хәзер генә, ничек килеп чыкканын аңладым, минем бабам Украин, Татарстаннан мәхәббәт белән.❤
As a Ukrainian, I've only heard of the Kuban Ukraine and Green Ukraine, never have heard of the others. Thank you for sharing this content. Showing those photos with flags clearly stating word "Ukraine" is a good antidote to defy the russian propoganda narrative
Brother, stop acting as if everything is Russian propaganda, ohh evil opression!!! Grow up, this ins’t 1984. You won’t get arrested for flying the flag of ukraine in russia, you will if you support them and their genocide in the donbas.
Historically Ukraine is 3 times smaller. Another parts are Noworussia and Crimea, and harkow and Chernigow, which were in Moskowy in 1600 year. Russian traitors (and ukrainian spyes like Hruchow and Brezhnew) has given to this territory a lot of lands. Because there were no difference, because ukrainians were just variant of russians like town-people and village-people, and they had variant of russian language(read Eneida in original, printed in 19the centuary and match with "literatural" language). But nation-lists have built this crazy idea of separatism, pan-ukrainism and HATO-love. And you have great-russian surname, and you are not ukrainian and not ban derian ofcource. Good luck with you state of freedom and it's dogs like ТЦК. Love your state!
1:25 In Ukrainian, it is not written correctly, but correctly, in the first: "Малиновий Клин", in the second: "Жовтий Клин", in the third: "Сірий Клин", in the fourth: "Зелений Клин"
Growing in Kyiv I have heard stories about my family relatives living in what you call Yellow Ukraine and Green Ukraine. And my grandmother is from Kuban and have always called herself and family as being Ukrainians. My grand-grandpa forcefully moved to Yellow Ukraine from central Ukraine (Poltava region) as part of agricultural reforms back then. Moved with all the cattle, agriculture equipment and some fellow villagers where they settled literally leaving nothing behind. And he was lucky by being obedient to russian empire rule. Others were given a choice - to be killed,serve in army 20 years or move deeper to produce food. Now I feel grateful that they decided to move back as soon as they could so I could be born here in Kyiv
Цікавий факт. Не тільки ЗУНР, Кубань та зелений клин хотіли увійти до складу УНР, а також БНР обговорювала ідея федерації з Україною. Але їх як і Зелений клин з Кубанню захопили перед самим воз'єднанням.
Кубанская Народная Республика, как государство, существовало пару месяцев, а потом была лишь на бумаге, так как к власти на Кубане пришли белые во главе с Деникиным. Примерно такое же было и в Зелёном клине
@@vorgot1311 Ніхто там не приходив до влади. Його спочатку хотіли захопити політично, а коли не вийшло - захопили воєнним шляхом. А Зелений клин існував довше Кубані.
@@rodzaevsky4271 that's precisely what I am asking. Which history you have in mind, given that in the English language there is only one word - Russian - whereas in Russian or Ukrainian these are different identities
In most cases it was a forceful migration. And they were not assimilated by Russian majority. Instead, they were forcefully convert into Russians. New documents were issued, Ukranian language was heavily prosecuted, etc.
I'm a descendant of Siberian Ukrainians, I have a lot of Ukrainian ancestors, but I don't exactly know how much of them are there, compared to Russian ones. I even have a Ukrainian last name. Also my girlfriend from Lviv is teaching me Ukrainian
People in Lwow are not ukrainians at all, they are another nation. Nation means people, historicaly united by some state with common religion, language. They have another religion, history, another language(not real Ukrainian, and ukrainian dialect -- read original Eneida printed in 19 century and match with "literatual" ukrainian, or see money 100 hryvn: words minute and time). In both world wars they were on the side of Germany, and their brother folk is germans, they also cutted polish civil people (Volyn') and "incorrect" ukrainians like wife of polish man or comminust, also belarussian partisans and soviet army. They are na zi in the soul, from father to child, and they ha te east ukrainians and call them moskals. And they proud of ban dera and schu hevich and what they made. They have another image of the world. And it is very toxic, agressive, shovinistic and real simmilar to Germany 80 years before, but they were not punished, and they made this separation in 1991 and 2014. They are just poison and detonator. Arestovich has called them devils. Do not be victim of them!
@@Alaen4ik Це досить умовна і неточні оцінки. Проте я згоден що більшість там уже асімільовано (В росії величезний досвіт політ. інст. манкурдизації). Ну і в невеликих групах є сентемент до України і вони можуть певним чином вплинути в момент розпаду рф. Хоча світу невигідний розпад та нестабільність в ядерні державі і в цьому основна проблема.
@@Leantenant Чукчи живут на Чукотке в основном, это чуть дальше, чем от Украины до португальской Атлантики. Выше верно написано, украинские фамилии и родственники в Украине, но ощущают себя русскими.
@@Cunning_Trout "Украинские" фамилии как-то не очень показывают национальность. Впрочем тот же чукча будучи с русской фамилией не перестанет быть чукчей. Так что определение национальности слишком мутно.
every time he says people were evacuated/migrated/moved replace this with "taken forcefully in the middle of the night, put like cattle into train wagons without any food, with all wealth stolen away from them". A huge percentage of people even didn't make it to final destinations, many died after being dropped in the middle of nowhere without food, tools and knowledge to survive ...
Brother, thanks a lot for the video! Just a few corrections considering Ukrainian names of the regions: - Малиновий Клин - Жовтий Клин - Сірий Клин - Зелений Клин
Some of them resettled voluntarily - to raise virgin lands, but the majority were resettled by force, without their consent. This was done in Donbas (where there is now a war) and in Crimea, which were seized by force back in 2014 - Ukrainians and Tatars were taken out in freight trains to then be resettled by Russians, so that Russia could now say that "Russians have always lived there." Kuban was and is a Ukrainian-speaking region, the Russians can't even understand them - and all because the Chekists could not erase the Ukrainian language, and they instilled in the locals that they are "the same Russians, only broken."
My ancestors always lived in Ukraine and as far as I know, what my ancestors told me, my distant great-grandfather on my mother's line was in the Cossack cavalry in the 19th century and was very famous there, because he held a saber in his left hand, so it was a mystery to the enemies where he would hit.
People in the comments will find the smallest reason to justify dismantling Russia as a country.. Russians also settled in the baltics,poland by the millions and had their own communities, but there's no "other Russia". Meantioning the far east as 'green Ukraine' as we understand Ukraine today is even more ridiculous
it's the last empire of Europe that should have fallen a long time ago, but it still struggles on. It's a disgusting frankenstein and its only purpose is to suck out resources from every region to develop moscow and st. petersburg + benefiting the corrupt government. It should be dismantled and all of the people should be free from losing their identity to becoming "russian". Also there is nothing ridiculous in green Ukraine.
@@drayde4155russia isnt an empire tho, russia is a corporatist wild capitalist product and propaganda machine of the modern era, the post soviet mindset more about taking revenge on NATO rather than "imperial" its a state that fell and tries to stabilise under an unfair system imposed by foregein influence
Nowhere in the video is there any reference to dismantling Russia. Moreover, the percentages of Ukrainians were not that high. The purpose of the video, as I understood it, is to show that there are also many Ukrainians in Russia, not only Russians in Ukraine. History is just history, not everybody uses it as a iredentist weapon.
Are you scared? We russian minorities will be always with you russians no matter what. Силой присоеденили - силой придется отсоединять 😂 Pay your nologi and go to factory.
RF is Nazi terrorist organisation, that's enough cause already. Nations enclosed in it borders, eradicated, those who oppose, like Chechens, killed (1994, 1999).
@@drayde4155 literally lol. the circassian nobility agitated the people to move to turkey, which is why a huge number of circassians fled to the black sea ports waiting for turkish ships that were not eager to take them, and if they even did so, circassians suffered from diseases and hunger along the way, since the osman empire mostly didn't care about them. the resettlement was very well planned by the Russian authorities so that the deportation was quite soft for the circassians themselves (no more than 5,000 families per YEAR) therefore, yeah, it is not Russia's fault, the demand for deportation was issued by TURKEY ITSELF, and the CIRCASSIAN NOBILITY made this resettlement chaotic and uncontrolled
Interesting! I knew there was a lot of movement of various peoples within Russia (however I did no know many details like this) and this is just one of many exempels of it.
Thanks Jinni and yeah, there map certainly was different back then! I don’t know why, but it just kind of got me thinking of East Prussia and how that was entirely wiped off the map following WWII...changing the entire history of the area.
I like all the Russian coming in the comments proclaiming Russia as the great motherland of the slavs or are we to forget kyiv is the mother city of all slavs and that modern Ukraine is where old slavs were most concentrated cope and seethe muscovites it won’t change history
Ukrainian majority was shared not only in neighboring Kuban but also Rostov on don, Belgorod, Kursk and Voronezh, these regions connect modern Ukraine with Kuban so it was less disconnected than it appears in this video. But great video love that some people from outside Ukraine and Kuban know this history. Although it is not worth war, it would be a dream if these neighboring regions (not sure about the siberian regions) joined back, I have a friend from Krasnodar in Kuban who supports it!
@@WIDE_BUTTER you're a colonist and you're living on lands stolen by means of genocide. You'll be a colonist until you move back to moscow. if not, you'll have to respect the native people's will
It's important to note that many of these Ukrainians were deported to the locations shown in this video. While it is true that many migrated, it was also an integral step at Russification within Ukraine to deport Ukrainians, and settle Russians in the area. This can still be seen today, in the Russo-Ukrainian war, even as far back as 2014 with the occupation of Crimea.
Ukrainians Culturally were Dominated By Russians Before the Times of the Ussr. So this is highly unlikely as Those Ukrainians their Language was not the same as the Modern ukrainian Language they spoke different dialects ranging from Regions. There was Really No big different between Russian and Ukrainian culture. Noone saw it and No one cared. It's just migration
Futhermore. The Russians didn't deport any Ukrainians from Crimea The ones whom weren't satisfied with the Annexation left on their Own behalf. No one forced them out Except themselfs and Ukrainians have always been a Minority in Crimea.
@@YayaToure1247 Those are all falsehoods made by the modern Russian government. Ukrainian became it's own distinct language somewhere around 1300 AD. Russian and Ukrainian culture are also often very, very different. Ukrainian cossacks have a lot of influence.
Dude, do better!!! 1. They were forcibly relocated from Ukraine to Zelenyy Klyn and other areas. There are a lot of former Ukrainians with Ukrainian surnames, who claimed to be russians, cause it was the only chance at getting higher on the social ladder. 2. You mess up naming!!!!! IN UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE THERE'S NO WORD "ЖОЛТ"!!!! THE COLOR YELLOW - ЖОВТИЙ (ZHOVTYY, ЖОВТИЙ КЛИН - MEANS "YELLOW WEDGE"), GREEN IS ЗЕЛЕНИЙ(ZELENYY), GREY - СІРИЙ (SIRYY), RASPBERRY - МАЛИНОВИЙ (MALYNOVYY, it's an adjective, shade of magenta btw, МАЛИНА is literally noun for raspberry). 3. Kuban' was one of traditional areas of settlement for ukrianians after those lands were subjugated by empire and even before that. At certain points ukrainian population was about 70%-80% of total population. 4. Other than Kuban' (yep, it's not "Cuban" it has soft sign at the end and additional letter Кубань in slavic language) - all other areas were forced relocations of population. That had two goals: get rid of unvanted classes in Ukraine and settle sparcely populated ASIAN DOMINATED areas of Moskovian Empire and then USSR.
Truth. The Russian Empire used some colonized peoples to colonize others. This is what moscow is still doing and it is necessary to make this cruel process visible and analyze it.
@ÇALAKNÊT, Bro, ermolov prised Cassack for committing this genocides of Northcaucasian people. Russian empire main force of colonizing and ethnic cleaning of North Caucasus were Cossack thats how russia brought them to Caucasus to replace caucasian people
Unfortunately, the Ukrainian language is forbidden and not taught in russia, so most of the Ukrainians who still live in these territories were assimilated and identify themselves as russians.
No, we did not ban the Ukrainian language, because it sounds so funny when the Schweinehunde begin to speak it (most often the Schweinehunde themselves know their "native language" very poorly and that's why it sounds so funny)
Bro it was not "migration to the east", in most cases it was forsed deportations of Ukrainians. My great grandma was deported with her family from Luhanstk oblast to the uninhabited area of Sybir where they was forced to builed villages and the whole infastacture by themselves
You are using the wrong map of the UPR, you do not include the northern part of the Tauriya province, which was declared a part of the UPR in November 1917 as the third universal. And after the signing of the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty, and finally, after the coup d'état of April 29, 1918, the southern parts of the Minsk province became part of Ukraine. Thanks for the video! ❤🇺🇦
Oh, thank you! We tried out some new things visually here (chapter intros, modifications with Countryball design, etc.); so, I'm glad you liked it...probably more to come in future videos too.
the most important thing to understand in modern population numbers is that ukrainians didn't disappear in these regions. They are oppressed to hide their identity, until…
Ok here's one thing I can't do as of now: Making a Grey Ukrainian state. I don't know how such a nation occupied such territory that didn't quite make sense. Now Yellow Ukraine and the Far-Eastern Republic I'm able to do, but for some reason the mapping software I'm using has their provinces are from Hearts of Iron 4. I'll keep anyone who's reading this informed on what my course of action is for Grey Ukraine
@@Real-Agent-Meta Most of the Ukrainians ended up there either by various settlement schemes and/or forced relocation, but it does appear pretty random on the map I will admit. 😅
I too agree @@GhostCountries. It does look bizarre to see a state with 56% of the population calling themselves Ukrainian to be located in the middle of an empire. The Far-Eastern cossacks make somewhat more sense, and the same thing goes with the Kuban and Don Cossacks
As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia. @@Real-Agent-Meta
I know about the UNR and the Green Wedge, and that there are any Ukrainian states other than the Green Wedge and part of the UNR I'm from Ukraine Слава Україні
@@user-bz4ds6ov1l зига (от древнеукраинского зiгати - отдавать честь) слово значит честь и уважение, отданное своей стране и Родине. Т.е. когда ты говоришь "Слава Украине", это можно также назвать "вскинуть зигу"
I wonder in some crazy alternate history. What would happen to the various “Ukraines” if they still existed in the later half of the 20th century. Would they all become independent states or merge into a “Mega Ukraine” stretching from the Carpathian Mountains to the Pacific Ocean. All while spilt from Ukraine proper.
In reality it's impossible due to existing of Moscovian imperialism. Not only they didn't allow "Green State" and Kuban to separate. Now we are witnessing Russia couldn't even allow regular Ukraine to be independent.
Literally zero mention of the Circassian genocide when talking about Kuban republic but when it comes to Armenian or Anatolian Greeks, channels like these won't shut up about mentioning them.
@@ellisten4696 Yeah, I'm not saying Russia didn't do the same thing and settle the land alongside the Ukrainians, but if you favour one country over the other it's just propaganda and that's what this vid is.
@@thenoodletiger1869 i think favoring ukraine is perfectly fine, support of self-determination etc, but you can support ukraine while also denouncing their history and what they're doing to the hungarians in zakarpattia. i hate russian nationalism though and think slavs never should have crossed the urals
This video wants you be sympathetic towards ukranians and cossacks on the kuban while totally disregarding the indigenous circassian people, only getting a small cameo and basically sending the message that "oh the circassians once lived there and now cossacks and ukranians live there" what about the genocide and conquest that had to take place to achieve this state? The cossack and ukranian "land" that was supposedly "russified" was never ukranian/cossack land to begin with. They are just like the russians. Colonial settlers. Extremely shameful of the creator to completely ignore this.
It's incorrect to blame Ukrainians for genocides. The genocide is a systematic action, it was planned and executed by Russian imperialists. And yes, since Ukrainians were colonized at the time, they were forced to participate in any military actions. As well as Caucasians themselves, who were forced to genocide literally their own people. That's how empire works. And that is what Russia does now: using Caucassians, and other peoples from RF (and yes, Ukrainians as well) to commit genocidal actions in modern Ukraine.
You are the first foreign UA-camr to tell about this, I thank you very much!
"Green Ukraine" remains widely known in Ukraine to this day thanks to the writer and political prisoner of the USSR Ivan Bahrianyi, who wrote the adventure novel "Tiger Trappers". Many Ukrainians consider it the most interesting book among all the literature they read at school. Unfortunately, "Gray and Yellow Ukraines" get a lot less attention, so I was very happy to see such a great and informative video from you! Thanks!
For me, the most interesting book is Ostap Vyshnya, Kobzar or Ivan Franko, but here is a book that you have never mentioned or heard of. Maybe my ancestors read, because I just recently entered the first year of college.
Interesting, but what about raspberry ukraine?
I'm listening to this book btw! It sure is pretty interesting.
@wandomwindow In English, it is better known under the name "Pink Ukraine". And as for the Ukrainian language, it seems to me that now we usually just say Kuban. Our people mostly know that there were once many Ukrainians living on this territory, but the name "Raspberry Ukraine / Malynovyi Klyn" has fallen out of use
@@lilshrike interesting, thank you
If you find all 4 easter egg Ukraines in real life you will get one free borsht. This is stated in UN law.
Pretty sure Infinity War just copy/pasted this! 😅
One free borsht. Wow what a reward.
@@jake-qn3tl nobody said what would be the size of that borscht
you find them and they all saying they're russians. no free borš' anymore bcs of small nations distinction
@@volodymyrkilchenko nowadays you'll only get an expired coupon for one free borsht sadly 😔
They didn't just migrate to the east, they were forced to go to the east.
Yes, people miss the colonial nature of russian empire. Ukrainians getting into Kuban' is especially sad tale with Cossacks first being exiled to Crimea and Black Sea shores, then FROM THERE, to North Caucasus which was had 90% of native Circassians killed or deported by russian army beforehand.
As a descendant of Green Ukrainians, I couldn't find any mention of deportation\force migration even on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Same goes for the stories people say here - that people moved here due to Stolypin's reforms and promised land domains.
But feel free to prove me wrong, please
Most of these people actually migrated by their own will, and because it would give more land and freedom in the east, than inside Ukraine. They just looked for a better life.
Coercion is still a mild deportation. Language prohibitions, ban on private property, imprisonment for cultural diversity, and ethnic-based racism was very strong on the 'original' Ukraine. People moved away 'on their own' to run from oppression.
@@mykolamelnychuk1523exactly! My great grand parents migrated to southern Siberia in around 1905 because they would be given free land there. Not only my great grandpa migrated from Chernihiv but my great grandma migrated from Ryazan(it’s in European part of Russia)
1:26
Малиновий клин
Жовтий клин
Сірий клин
Зелений клин
0:45 that wasn't "migration" That was deportation!
People migrated too.
@@ayararesara6253 yeah, just the whole "go there or get beaten" is typically refered as deportation, same way the people that go "love me or i will beat you" is considered rape in every case
@@pedronabais1456 No, after abolishment of serfdom there was a real problem of lack of land due to fast growth of population.
Wth? Deportation of Ukrainians in Russian Empire?
Deportation, deportation and deportation...😢
I’m mixed half and half Kazakh and Ukrainian and my ancestors came to Kazakhstan to Seryi Klin (grey Ukraine) 150 years ago. Thank you for highlighting the history of my family.
An ultimate breed. I kneel.
Hi bro! Are you half kazak or qozoq( Turkic nation in central Asia)
@@juanblanco7898 ultimate bullshitter 😂
Мне две в сырном
@@islombekochi Turkic central Asian Kazakh
Yellow Ukraine, Grey Ukraine, Green Ukraine......it's like Ukraine Power Ranger.
😂 Great idea)
its Voltron, fifth is the head one
Also, the story of the Volga Germans would be really interesting to explore. Don't believe there were much of them left after WWII.
Oh, definitely; I’ve been thinking about doing some on the Volga Germans for a while...maybe the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic or just a more general video.
@@GhostCountries definitely make a video on the Volga Germans! I believe my dads side was such!
It’s definitely an overlooked chapter of European/German/Russian history; so, it hits a lot of check marks and yeah, I’d personally like to know more about the Volga Germans’ story!
@@GhostCountries Well, they were invited to farm lands in the Russian empire, and did so. But when Canada’s prairie was the “last best best”; they went to such. They ended up in Saskatchewan and were baptized Lutherans. All in around ~1900(10)
most of Volga Germans were marked by Soviet authorities as "spies" and in fear of them supporting the Nazi Germany, authorities moved them far east.Most of them,matter of fact, were deported to Kazakhstan in Akmolinsk region where in 1980-1990 there were around 0.8-1.5 million germans living there.Most of them though started to repatriate after 1991 when Kazakhstan gained independence.
There is also a large Ukrainian population in Western Canada.
White Ukraine)))
and will be largest soon
And also in Brazil and Central America.
Thoose are descendants of Ukro nazis and war criminals lol
Yes, but - unlike those who mentioned in the video - it's mostly descendants of ukrainians from Austro-Hungary.
Ukraine across the Cossak-Verse
💀
Lol, you have no idea how far you can go in the Cossack-Verse.
Kazakhs or Cassock? not interesting
Cossack Genoa?
Cossack = liber homo
Cossacktarian?
hell yeah
“It’s all Ukraine?”
“Always has been 🌎🧑🚀🔫”
Someone make this a movie or a book
My great grandmother is a yellow ukrainian!! Thank you for sharing about this obscure group of ukrainians;)
One of my grand-grand mothers have been deported by soviets for being too wealthy. So she was deported close to China. City called Shimanovsk. Most of those people you are talking about were forced to move far east, leaving such a fertile land and moving to wild and harsh environment.
Охуительные истории подъехали
@@EkoFrankoохуительный урус подьехал
@@EkoFrankothat's true. Ohuitelnye oni y tebya.
Это те богатые украинцы, которые устроили голодомор для бедных украинцев?
I'm not sure if you paid enough attention but the video was about pre-revolution Ukrainian settlers (not those deported during bolshevik terror)
Thank you very much for spreading information about the Ukrainian nation abroad, you are doing a great service to the Ukrainian nation♥️
It wasn't relocation. It was " we stole all you got and now you get deported... Or killed "... My grand-grand father was one of them
Greetings from Ukraine, thank you for covering this! I always dreamt of this topic being talked about more
Oh, no problem! It honestly was a really interesting (if not largely forgotten) chapter of history to cover. 😃
Кстати довольно значительная часть Кубани до сих пор говорит на суржике (что-то среднее между русским и украинским). В основном на хуторах и станицах, но все же
@@balmashev93Это не суржик, а балачка
And they still is part of Russia..... so why the Ukraine can't?
Tons of Ukrainian historians covered this topic
As a Ukrainian,dang we got very original with the names for the different Ukraine’s
If they were internationally recognized countries, they'd be pretty unique; not a lot of colours in the names of nations. Also, perfectly inline with "borderlands" and the flag of UA being the literal landscape.
As a person a country titled "the low country" (from back when we were ruled from the Alps and called "the lands over there" in French) we aren't great with naming either; as i'm in a province transliterated as "accross the river Yssel" ("Overijssel", from the perspective of the western netherlands) in a town which etymology is "on the border" ("An De Schende" became Enschede), I think the landscape-colorcoded borderlands are more imaginiative lol
@@jezusbloodie I mean, the word "Ukraine" itself can be translated as In-Country. So, I guess that explains why I, as a Ukrainian, like the name of Overijssel, lol.
Slava Ukraine 🇬🇪🇺🇦
Грузины вы лучшие,обожаю вас и вашу страну. Слава Сакартвелло🇺🇦❤️🇬🇪
Slava Ukraini! Heroiam Slava 🇳🇿❤️🇺🇦
@@RealFaodail Слава Новой Зеландии!🇳🇿🇺🇦
Glory to Heroes! thank you for your support ❤
А за что её славить-то? Чё она сделала такого славного?
thanks for your work and educating on the subject. as a Ukrainian myself I gotta admit this is not something generally well known to an ordinary Ukrainian in Ukraine. the history of autonomous and independent states inside russian mainland isn’t generally taught in school which is a big mistake. the exception is a novel “Tiger Trappers” by Ukrainian author Bahrianyi, the plot of which is set up in Green Wedge. the adventure novel is part of school program and is one of most loved and valued among high schoolers and even adults.
Greetings from Kazakhstan! I am from the north (Qostanai), where Ukrainians are common.
Most of russians of northern Kazakhstan are assimilated Ukrainians in fact. People here talk with specific Ukrainian h sound instead of g, also we have some Ukrainian words here, even penetrating to Kazakh language
this is not the specifics of the ukrainian language, the south Russian dialect also has it
this is not actually specific to Ukraine, there are words in ukrainian language pronounced with "g" sound 🤓☝️
30% of russians in russia are Ukrainians
@@derevianne1108 г and ґ i get it, the thing is rural speakers talk like that (and sometimes I do it too unconsciously)
@@derevianne1108it is true though lol
I had heard of the Green Ukraine in the Revolution before, but the others are new info to me. Thank you for the education!
Thanks Tommy; yeah, our first episode on the channel actually was a more in-depth look into Green Ukraine (and the FER), but there was a lot more to the story!
@@GhostCountries As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia.
i knew gray ukraine,green ukraine and yellow ukraine already.
@@Kampotikgoogle translate detected. Also supporting war is gay
@@deucedwayne И что, что гугл транслейт?
0:47 honestly I'm not the expert on history of Ukraine, but I think most were just taken by force to move them to some other lands and sometimes prisons, rather than if it would've been their own choice
Keep in mind that 1897 census didn't consider your ethnicity, only the language you speak (they called it dialect), and if you were literate (could read and write in russian, because writing and teaching in Ukrainian was forbidden) - you automatically were considered as russain speaker.
Hence, the actual number of ethic Ukrainians was much higher everywhere.
Where was it forbidden? Who forbade?
There was no Ukrainian language then. There was Polish and Russian.
Valuev circular
@@user-fy8nd6nz5wdirect written evidence of ukrainian language first appears in 16th century stop lying
@@user-fy8nd6nz5w
classic. There is no language, but the Tsar forbids its use.
Think about it😁
I am glad that foreigners keep other countries informed about these topics. Really good wirk, thank you very much!
As a Ukrainian, I really heard about "Yellow" and "Grey" of Ukraine for the first time. Sometimes it is interesting to think about the topic "what if...", knowing such pages of the history of one's own country.
@@sergeiivanovich6827 So I did not study in a Soviet school (fortunately). I already studied Ukrainian... and now I understand that I should have paid more attention to history lessons. I was a stupid kid.
As a malorussian idc
You should probably think "What if..." Ukraine survives as a state, not "What if..." parts of Russia were Ukrainian.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jdwell, ruzzia will be broken again lol
🦧@@FannaD
I live in Kuban region for my whole life.
In our schools, we study the whole history of Kuban region and Kuban cossacks. It’s got its own subject. It names “Кубановедение” (Кубань - Kuban, ведение - studying)
So, every schoolboy (schoolgirl) from Kuban knows about “green Ukraine” (never heard this word combination before).
I know about repressions of Ukrainian and other nations people, but never knows about other Ukrainian republics, except Ukrainian and Kuban peoples republics.
Thx for info, bro
I’ll sub your channel
P.s. There may be grammatical mistakes. Not so good in English language
Oh, no problem whatsoever; glad we could shine a bit of light on a less well-known chapter of history. Actually, we’re planning to eventually do a proper episode on the Kuban People’s Republic at some point. So, it’s pretty cool to know one of our subscribers is actually from the region!
@@GhostCountries not one I’m also here. And I’ve made a content analysis of our Kuban studies (кубановедение) school book, and it’s so russified, russia is trying to make us forget who we are!!
@@RinaShabanov how can you be russified when you have always been russian
@@Silver_Prussian I have never been russian 🥴 can’t you tell by my appearance? 🙄
@@RinaShabanovnot all russian are blonde blue eyed but I get what you want to say
I never knew there were so many Ukraines!! Quite a varied and complicated history
Before doing work on the episode that jump started the channel (Green Ukraine), I didn't know about them either. Still, the amount of new information on the "other Ukraines" I discovered in while doing the episode was...well, more than I would've thought!
This very long and painful story...
Thank you from a Kuban Ukrainian! I hope one day we’ll gain our independence from Moscow and unite with Ukraine 🇺🇦
Oh, no problem and I’m glad you liked the video! 🙌 We’re definitely planning to cover the Kuban People’s Republic in a full-length episode at some point as well, since there’s a lot more to that chapter of history we’d like to explore.
@@GhostCountries that’d be awesome because right now the world recognizes Kuban as a legal part of russia, which should not be the case because it is de-facto an occupied territory, a colony of moscow, while we have our own identity russia is trying to erase. Only spreading the information about this, can help us gain our independence one day.
@@RinaShabanov тогда Данцинг это Германия
@@RinaShabanov schizo
@@RinaShabanov сынок, что за дурь ты несешь?
Our ancestors did not migrate to Russia, they were forcibly deported from Ukraine. The Kremlin settled Russians in our homes
As a Ukrainian I’m grateful for telling more about our history to the whole world🇺🇦🔱 Hope you will visit our country after victory and enjoy our hospitality☝️
I will💙💛
"After victory" 💀
@@user-gy6fq3lu7q yes you read it right
Увы ничего хорошего у нас нет.
@@guleifrgrimmur4 если вы росиянин- то скорее всего это правда
I recently watched a video about Ukrainians in Russia. For example, many older people in the Kuban (especially in the villages) speak Ukrainian. For anyone who has heard Ukrainian, this is obvious. But they are embarrassed to admit that it is Ukrainian and call it the local dialect of Russian. It's a pity.
Actually In Kuban, and in Green Klyn, there even emerged some Ukrainian culture organisations after fall of USSR. But after Putin became president, he started de-ukrainisation with Putinism ideology and those organisation were dismantled.
@@user-bp8zx4ve7p "putinism"💀💀💀💀💀💀
Russians in the Kuban do not speak Ukrainian, but simply speak with a slight accent, which in our country is called "southern" and has little in common with the Ukrainian language.
Don't spread nonsense if you don't know what you're talking about
cry
Not really. Their language is rich in Ukrainisms though,.
Actually, believe it or not, there's some sort of thing where there's a little Ukrainian State in Canada called White Ukraine. The flag is pretty much the same as Green and Grey Ukraine, but instead of it being Green or Gray on the flag, it's White. It's within the Provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan, as more Ukrainians live in the Prairies of Canada than in other Urban Areas to the East of them.
Ukraine is spreading!
and they did nothing wrong@@untje
Most Ukrainians in Canada came there before WWI even. They were ethnically Ukrainian but even in the censuses they put down their nationality as "austrian"@@untje
@@qwertyuiopasdfghj001Only were more brutal in killing jews than the Germans.
@@untjebut about the Vlasovites, they agreed in advance on the transfer and mass execution
Дякую за відео!
не дякую, а спасибi. Учи настоящий украинский язык. И книжки читай, в оригинале, напечатанные в 19 веке, хотя бы открой Энеиду в википедии и сравни с сегодняшним литературным языком, на котором не писали. Вот она, антирусская мова.
@@ashotvanshot5 dауніщє, «спасибі» це русифіковане слово, яке має на меті зменшити різницю між укр та рос. це імперська зброя по знищенню української ідентичності. шо ти, впн норм знайшов щоб в ютубі сидіти? "сверх державець"
@@rolandsheroziya спаси бог -- это славянское слово, как и хвала и благодарю. А Дякую -- польское, от германских данке и тхенк. Онемеченный ты наш. Тебе историю Хмельницкого напомнить? Думаешь, казаки с удовольствием использовали польские слова, а не слова из древнерусского и церковнославянского(как латынь для славян)? Ты посмотри на купюру сто хривен, и там Шевченко писал время и минута. Видимо славяне не умели красить одежду, поэтому использовали слово фарбуваты, от немецкого слова фарбэ.
И при этом вы из себя тру-славян строите, со словами майдан и отоман. Ничего, южнее чёрного моря есть отоманская империя, сейчас называется Турцией, в каждом городе там статую Аттатюрка, что переводится как отец тюрок. Да вы часто на турков похожи и наоборот, вы часто такие скуластые и черноволосые из-за татарского и тюркского влияния. Потому вы похожи на великоросов уралидов(точнее вы Понтиды). Вы даже не знаете, что первая столица Руси -- Старая Ладога, Рюриково Городище и Новгород. Потом дружинник Рюрика Ольгерд взял Киев.
Монголы всадники, лошадям надо кушать траву, а не хвойные иголки, поэтому они не лезли на север, но прокладывали дороги, а все полустепные земли были опустошены, т.к. они часто не входили в Русь, они были названы Новороссией, постепенно они заселялись русскими(включая киевских), но место было опасное, как дикий запад, их атаковали татары и уводили в рабство и наложницы или наоборот, туда бежали ушкуйники, дети боярские и бедные паны и дворяне, их боевые навыки пригодились, и они стали называться казаками, но изначально в 14 веке они были татары. Они не хотели никому подчиняться, а Польша и Московия выстроили из них берьер от кочевников, который плавно пермещался на юг, но казаки не были самодостаточны как империи, поэтому со временем переходили на службу и становились реестровыми/городовыми или отдельным сословием. А между Польшей и Московией была область уКраина, что значит фронтир, что и описывается выше. Западенцы вообще не украинцы, т.к. имеют иную историю, религию, язык, мировоззрение, их попытка насадить это на всех, вызвало новую Руину, которой воспользовались соседние державы.
@@ashotvanshot5 образилося)
щиро дякую за ністрій, потужний досвід, за український контент🎉❤
dude, they didn't "migrate" they were forcefully deported, millions died in the process
Been trying to explain this to people since 2014. Thank you!
I just now realized how it happened that my great-grandfather is Ukrainian, with love from Tatarstan.
Мин хәзер генә, ничек килеп чыкканын аңладым, минем бабам Украин, Татарстаннан мәхәббәт белән.❤
with love from estonia)
Татарстан 🇷🇺
Tatarstan must be independent.
@@palenkoff I disagree, half of us are Russians, and economic ties with Russia are strong. Independence will only harm both us and Tatarstan.
Into the Ukraineverse
As a Ukrainian, I've only heard of the Kuban Ukraine and Green Ukraine, never have heard of the others. Thank you for sharing this content. Showing those photos with flags clearly stating word "Ukraine" is a good antidote to defy the russian propoganda narrative
Нет, не ври эти фотографии в России с надписью ,,Украина" не скрывают, я их покрайней мере беспроблемы нашёл в интернете на территории,,РФ"
Brother, stop acting as if everything is Russian propaganda, ohh evil opression!!! Grow up, this ins’t 1984. You won’t get arrested for flying the flag of ukraine in russia, you will if you support them and their genocide in the donbas.
Historically Ukraine is 3 times smaller. Another parts are Noworussia and Crimea, and harkow and Chernigow, which were in Moskowy in 1600 year. Russian traitors (and ukrainian spyes like Hruchow and Brezhnew) has given to this territory a lot of lands. Because there were no difference, because ukrainians were just variant of russians like town-people and village-people, and they had variant of russian language(read Eneida in original, printed in 19the centuary and match with "literatural" language). But nation-lists have built this crazy idea of separatism, pan-ukrainism and HATO-love. And you have great-russian surname, and you are not ukrainian and not ban derian ofcource. Good luck with you state of freedom and it's dogs like ТЦК. Love your state!
This is such an underrated channel!!!
Won't disagree with you there! 😅 Slowly, but surely we're growing though.
So true. I don’t get it. These guys really make history interesting and relevant
1:25 In Ukrainian, it is not written correctly, but correctly, in the first: "Малиновий Клин", in the second: "Жовтий Клин", in the third: "Сірий Клин", in the fourth: "Зелений Клин"
I would like to add that "Raspberry Ukraine" is not beacause of berry, it's because of color, color of the flag. I would suggest "Crimson Ukraine".
@@olesmysiura3788 yeah, it's because we don't have a name for magenta color, the closest ones are pink and raspberry
СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛🔱🔱🔱🔱
А правда, что с Украины всех умных угоняли в Москву, для развития науки и культуры?
@@shandpodushkinа правда что в паРаше стредний iq -4?
ответ очевиден, да!
@@user-nk8kb9pm4k ну я рад что ты живёшь в ПаРаше и у тебя iq -4
@@user-nk8kb9pm4k ты посмотри уровень ИЧР)
The real Ukraines were the friends we made along the way.
Never friends to moskals
@@kaitopaterok nazi
You literally have the most roots with Russians, clown@@kaitopater
@@artemefimov8215Alright commie
@artemefimov8215 not a nazi, but a person who knows history
Growing in Kyiv I have heard stories about my family relatives living in what you call Yellow Ukraine and Green Ukraine. And my grandmother is from Kuban and have always called herself and family as being Ukrainians. My grand-grandpa forcefully moved to Yellow Ukraine from central Ukraine (Poltava region) as part of agricultural reforms back then. Moved with all the cattle, agriculture equipment and some fellow villagers where they settled literally leaving nothing behind. And he was lucky by being obedient to russian empire rule. Others were given a choice - to be killed,serve in army 20 years or move deeper to produce food. Now I feel grateful that they decided to move back as soon as they could so I could be born here in Kyiv
Wow, not many foreiners know the "klyn"s! Thank you for sharing Ukrainian history 💙💛
Цікавий факт. Не тільки ЗУНР, Кубань та зелений клин хотіли увійти до складу УНР, а також БНР обговорювала ідея федерації з Україною. Але їх як і Зелений клин з Кубанню захопили перед самим воз'єднанням.
Цікавий факт. Кіго-то забіли спросіть.
@@kxmapper Цікавий факт, я сказав цікавий факт оскільки він цікавий, а хтось невихований та не грамотний мені написав "цікавий факт".
@@kxmapperглавное что москаля раз в жизни спросили😂
Кубанская Народная Республика, как государство, существовало пару месяцев, а потом была лишь на бумаге, так как к власти на Кубане пришли белые во главе с Деникиным. Примерно такое же было и в Зелёном клине
@@vorgot1311 Ніхто там не приходив до влади. Його спочатку хотіли захопити політично, а коли не вийшло - захопили воєнним шляхом.
А Зелений клин існував довше Кубані.
Thank you for bringing Ukrainian history to the masses
Russian history*
@@rodzaevsky4271rustard detected
@@rodzaevsky4271really, which one ? Russkaya, rossijskaya or ruska?
@@romailto9299 what do u mean?
@@rodzaevsky4271 that's precisely what I am asking. Which history you have in mind, given that in the English language there is only one word - Russian - whereas in Russian or Ukrainian these are different identities
this is very interesting. never knew Ukrainians got that far.
In most cases it was a forceful migration. And they were not assimilated by Russian majority. Instead, they were forcefully convert into Russians. New documents were issued, Ukranian language was heavily prosecuted, etc.
I'm a descendant of Siberian Ukrainians, I have a lot of Ukrainian ancestors, but I don't exactly know how much of them are there, compared to Russian ones. I even have a Ukrainian last name. Also my girlfriend from Lviv is teaching me Ukrainian
People in Lwow are not ukrainians at all, they are another nation. Nation means people, historicaly united by some state with common religion, language. They have another religion, history, another language(not real Ukrainian, and ukrainian dialect -- read original Eneida printed in 19 century and match with "literatual" ukrainian, or see money 100 hryvn: words minute and time). In both world wars they were on the side of Germany, and their brother folk is germans, they also cutted polish civil people (Volyn') and "incorrect" ukrainians like wife of polish man or comminust, also belarussian partisans and soviet army. They are na zi in the soul, from father to child, and they ha te east ukrainians and call them moskals. And they proud of ban dera and schu hevich and what they made. They have another image of the world. And it is very toxic, agressive, shovinistic and real simmilar to Germany 80 years before, but they were not punished, and they made this separation in 1991 and 2014. They are just poison and detonator. Arestovich has called them devils. Do not be victim of them!
Я живу там, где есть так называемый " зеленый клин", однако на Дальнем Востоке украинцы в основной ассимилированы и живут в Приморском крае.
Кем могут быть ассимилированы украинцы? Чукчами?
@@Leantenantрусскими, человек имеет в виду, что эти "украинцы" о себе так не думают и сепараизма там 0
@@Alaen4ik Це досить умовна і неточні оцінки. Проте я згоден що більшість там уже асімільовано (В росії величезний досвіт політ. інст. манкурдизації).
Ну і в невеликих групах є сентемент до України і вони можуть певним чином вплинути в момент розпаду рф.
Хоча світу невигідний розпад та нестабільність в ядерні державі і в цьому основна проблема.
@@Leantenant Чукчи живут на Чукотке в основном, это чуть дальше, чем от Украины до португальской Атлантики. Выше верно написано, украинские фамилии и родственники в Украине, но ощущают себя русскими.
@@Cunning_Trout "Украинские" фамилии как-то не очень показывают национальность.
Впрочем тот же чукча будучи с русской фамилией не перестанет быть чукчей.
Так что определение национальности слишком мутно.
That's true my grandma who lived in USSR said : Soviet Union is a graveyard of nations"....
and we call it "the prison of nations"
@@blackwolf_365with that pfp i can’t agree
@@realdragao6367 Why? It is the logo of the nationalist association Right Sector.
Greetings from Ukraine and thank for such an entertaining content. It is really disappointing that you have only 20k subscribers. Such a good talent
Great video! Appreciate your work!
Not a lot people in the West know that. Thanks for the video.
every time he says people were evacuated/migrated/moved replace this with "taken forcefully in the middle of the night, put like cattle into train wagons without any food, with all wealth stolen away from them". A huge percentage of people even didn't make it to final destinations, many died after being dropped in the middle of nowhere without food, tools and knowledge to survive ...
Based russia
@@realdragao6367 ok ruSSian
Great video man
Brother, thanks a lot for the video!
Just a few corrections considering Ukrainian names of the regions:
- Малиновий Клин
- Жовтий Клин
- Сірий Клин
- Зелений Клин
Национал. социалист. клин
Тільки хотів це написати )
@@yourdiresir Ахахах)))
@@Rgd0 , аншлаг-петросян клин)
@@comYakowenko Котцентрацион-рабочий клин)))
Some of them resettled voluntarily - to raise virgin lands, but the majority were resettled by force, without their consent. This was done in Donbas (where there is now a war) and in Crimea, which were seized by force back in 2014 - Ukrainians and Tatars were taken out in freight trains to then be resettled by Russians, so that Russia could now say that "Russians have always lived there."
Kuban was and is a Ukrainian-speaking region, the Russians can't even understand them - and all because the Chekists could not erase the Ukrainian language, and they instilled in the locals that they are "the same Russians, only broken."
My ancestors always lived in Ukraine and as far as I know, what my ancestors told me, my distant great-grandfather on my mother's line was in the Cossack cavalry in the 19th century and was very famous there, because he held a saber in his left hand, so it was a mystery to the enemies where he would hit.
Glad you made this video. Very informative 💪🏻
Thanks man; there actually was a lot more to the story than either of us expected - especially after having already covered Green Ukraine! 😅
Volodivostok is Ukraine not Russia
People in the comments will find the smallest reason to justify dismantling Russia as a country.. Russians also settled in the baltics,poland by the millions and had their own communities, but there's no "other Russia". Meantioning the far east as 'green Ukraine' as we understand Ukraine today is even more ridiculous
it's the last empire of Europe that should have fallen a long time ago, but it still struggles on. It's a disgusting frankenstein and its only purpose is to suck out resources from every region to develop moscow and st. petersburg + benefiting the corrupt government. It should be dismantled and all of the people should be free from losing their identity to becoming "russian".
Also there is nothing ridiculous in green Ukraine.
@@drayde4155russia isnt an empire tho, russia is a corporatist wild capitalist product and propaganda machine of the modern era, the post soviet mindset more about taking revenge on NATO rather than "imperial" its a state that fell and tries to stabilise under an unfair system imposed by foregein influence
Nowhere in the video is there any reference to dismantling Russia. Moreover, the percentages of Ukrainians were not that high. The purpose of the video, as I understood it, is to show that there are also many Ukrainians in Russia, not only Russians in Ukraine. History is just history, not everybody uses it as a iredentist weapon.
Are you scared? We russian minorities will be always with you russians no matter what. Силой присоеденили - силой придется отсоединять 😂
Pay your nologi and go to factory.
RF is Nazi terrorist organisation, that's enough cause already. Nations enclosed in it borders, eradicated, those who oppose, like Chechens, killed (1994, 1999).
Amazing channel and content. I love this stuff ❤❤
As you can see, Ukraine did not invade Kursk, Ukraine is de-occupying Kursk.
Thanks for your work and for revealing a rather little-known topic in the world
Oh, no problem and thanks for the comment.
The Green Ukraine ball is a cute frog
How did you mention Circassia about not the Circassian genocide that Russia did
the сircassian genocide is not a Russia's fault
@@orientalischerwarjager ok buddy
@@orientalischerwarjager sure they just killed themselves lmao
@@drayde4155 literally lol. the circassian nobility agitated the people to move to turkey, which is why a huge number of circassians fled to the black sea ports waiting for turkish ships that were not eager to take them, and if they even did so, circassians suffered from diseases and hunger along the way, since the osman empire mostly didn't care about them. the resettlement was very well planned by the Russian authorities so that the deportation was quite soft for the circassians themselves (no more than 5,000 families per YEAR)
therefore, yeah, it is not Russia's fault, the demand for deportation was issued by TURKEY ITSELF, and the CIRCASSIAN NOBILITY made this resettlement chaotic and uncontrolled
@@orientalischerwarjager cope and seethe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide
Thank you for sharing. You still can find the elderly speaking Ukrainian language in Kuban villages. Слава Україні!
Во Львове ещё можно встретить людей говорящих на русском, а говорящих на украинском там не любят, Фарион тому доказательство
@@shandpodushkin😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
бля, лечись
Thank you for this video! Hi from Sumy, Ukraine!
Сумы это Россия
@@groupvucic2235 москва це Україна
@@pims не смеши. И пиши нормальными буквами на родном русском языке.
@@groupvucic2235 так я і пишу рідною мовою, а всілякими вигаданими на болотах "язикамі" не спілкуюсь)
@@pims да конечно, сколько ты этим языком пользуешься, года два? Смешной ты
Interesting! I knew there was a lot of movement of various peoples within Russia (however I did no know many details like this) and this is just one of many exempels of it.
Thanks Jinni and yeah, there map certainly was different back then! I don’t know why, but it just kind of got me thinking of East Prussia and how that was entirely wiped off the map following WWII...changing the entire history of the area.
Доречі росіян це не національнісь 😊
Ruzznya cope tears in the comments are hella juicy.
Забавно, но я родился на территории серой Украины. В Алтайском крае. Кстати Путин агрессор .
Thank you for showing how interesting can be Ukrainian history
Thank you a lot! I am very grateful to you for doing this. Incredible job thank you. Word can not describe how thankfull I am. Thank you
спасибо за информацию! Нам такого на уроках истории никгда не рассказывали
I like all the Russian coming in the comments proclaiming Russia as the great motherland of the slavs or are we to forget kyiv is the mother city of all slavs and that modern Ukraine is where old slavs were most concentrated cope and seethe muscovites it won’t change history
Ukrainian majority was shared not only in neighboring Kuban but also Rostov on don, Belgorod, Kursk and Voronezh, these regions connect modern Ukraine with Kuban so it was less disconnected than it appears in this video. But great video love that some people from outside Ukraine and Kuban know this history. Although it is not worth war, it would be a dream if these neighboring regions (not sure about the siberian regions) joined back, I have a friend from Krasnodar in Kuban who supports it!
Kuban is Circassia. The Cossacks serving Russia invaded our land and genocided %90 of our country. Stop acting like russia and being imperialistic
I myself am from the Kuban, and I think this idea is stupid, there are much more Russians in this territory
@@WIDE_BUTTER you're a colonist and you're living on lands stolen by means of genocide. You'll be a colonist until you move back to moscow. if not, you'll have to respect the native people's will
My friend lives in Lviv. He wants the lions to become part of Russia
@@Австраловенгрия Lviv is Ukraine.
It's important to note that many of these Ukrainians were deported to the locations shown in this video. While it is true that many migrated, it was also an integral step at Russification within Ukraine to deport Ukrainians, and settle Russians in the area. This can still be seen today, in the Russo-Ukrainian war, even as far back as 2014 with the occupation of Crimea.
Ukrainians Culturally were Dominated By Russians Before the Times of the Ussr. So this is highly unlikely as Those Ukrainians their Language was not the same as the Modern ukrainian Language they spoke different dialects ranging from Regions. There was Really No big different between Russian and Ukrainian culture. Noone saw it and No one cared. It's just migration
Futhermore. The Russians didn't deport any Ukrainians from Crimea The ones whom weren't satisfied with the Annexation left on their Own behalf. No one forced them out Except themselfs and Ukrainians have always been a Minority in Crimea.
Russia's history is about people moving, then being forced to moved, then moving again, then being forced to do something so they move again
@@sotch2271 Yep. Invasions and deportations. A very long history of that. The mongols made it worst
@@YayaToure1247 Those are all falsehoods made by the modern Russian government. Ukrainian became it's own distinct language somewhere around 1300 AD. Russian and Ukrainian culture are also often very, very different. Ukrainian cossacks have a lot of influence.
Круто, не думав побачити відео на цю тему англійською
Dude, do better!!!
1. They were forcibly relocated from Ukraine to Zelenyy Klyn and other areas. There are a lot of former Ukrainians with Ukrainian surnames, who claimed to be russians, cause it was the only chance at getting higher on the social ladder.
2. You mess up naming!!!!! IN UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE THERE'S NO WORD "ЖОЛТ"!!!! THE COLOR YELLOW - ЖОВТИЙ (ZHOVTYY, ЖОВТИЙ КЛИН - MEANS "YELLOW WEDGE"), GREEN IS ЗЕЛЕНИЙ(ZELENYY), GREY - СІРИЙ (SIRYY), RASPBERRY - МАЛИНОВИЙ (MALYNOVYY, it's an adjective, shade of magenta btw, МАЛИНА is literally noun for raspberry).
3. Kuban' was one of traditional areas of settlement for ukrianians after those lands were subjugated by empire and even before that. At certain points ukrainian population was about 70%-80% of total population.
4. Other than Kuban' (yep, it's not "Cuban" it has soft sign at the end and additional letter Кубань in slavic language) - all other areas were forced relocations of population. That had two goals: get rid of unvanted classes in Ukraine and settle sparcely populated ASIAN DOMINATED areas of Moskovian Empire and then USSR.
Great episode
Thanks Lucas!
I’m kinda disappointed you didn’t mention the Circassian genocide while talking about Kuban Cossacks.
Truth. The Russian Empire used some colonized peoples to colonize others. This is what moscow is still doing and it is necessary to make this cruel process visible and analyze it.
That is irrelevant to the video
@ÇALAKNÊT, Bro, ermolov prised Cassack for committing this genocides of Northcaucasian people. Russian empire main force of colonizing and ethnic cleaning of North Caucasus were Cossack thats how russia brought them to Caucasus to replace caucasian people
Unfortunately, the Ukrainian language is forbidden and not taught in russia, so most of the Ukrainians who still live in these territories were assimilated and identify themselves as russians.
А правда что с Украины всех умных забирали в Москвы, для развития культуры и науки?
@shandpodushkin так, а в Україні і це привило до того що тут остались одні нацисти і потомки 3 рейха
No, we did not ban the Ukrainian language, because it sounds so funny when the Schweinehunde begin to speak it (most often the Schweinehunde themselves know their "native language" very poorly and that's why it sounds so funny)
Bro it was not "migration to the east", in most cases it was forsed deportations of Ukrainians. My great grandma was deported with her family from Luhanstk oblast to the uninhabited area of Sybir where they was forced to builed villages and the whole infastacture by themselves
You are using the wrong map of the UPR, you do not include the northern part of the Tauriya province, which was declared a part of the UPR in November 1917 as the third universal. And after the signing of the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty, and finally, after the coup d'état of April 29, 1918, the southern parts of the Minsk province became part of Ukraine.
Thanks for the video! ❤🇺🇦
Concise and informative. Nice graphics.
Oh, thank you! We tried out some new things visually here (chapter intros, modifications with Countryball design, etc.); so, I'm glad you liked it...probably more to come in future videos too.
I am SURPRISED that this video has so few views. So interesting!
Thanks and yeah, the algorithm doesn’t seem to be too friendly with us 😅; we’ve got plenty more content on similar topics planned though!
There are Ukrainians from Kuban in my church
Most of Kuban people have Ukrainian blood in them
@@Neversamost of ukrainian people have Russian blood in them
@@Neversaда вроде нет у них пятака и не так сильно воняют
@@funnyclown9138Найс ава
@@funnyclown9138 унтерменші? Себто недолюди?
Nice vid!
the most important thing to understand in modern population numbers is that ukrainians didn't disappear in these regions. They are oppressed to hide their identity, until…
Your map of Ukraine is wrong.
That was the Ukraine map during Russian empire, Russian empire didn’t own all of ukraine, Austria owned west Ukraine
which one
You are giving me ideas for my 2.0 alternative history map. Thanks for the new info I will be using
Oh, no problem! 😉
Ok here's one thing I can't do as of now: Making a Grey Ukrainian state. I don't know how such a nation occupied such territory that didn't quite make sense. Now Yellow Ukraine and the Far-Eastern Republic I'm able to do, but for some reason the mapping software I'm using has their provinces are from Hearts of Iron 4. I'll keep anyone who's reading this informed on what my course of action is for Grey Ukraine
@@Real-Agent-Meta Most of the Ukrainians ended up there either by various settlement schemes and/or forced relocation, but it does appear pretty random on the map I will admit. 😅
I too agree @@GhostCountries. It does look bizarre to see a state with 56% of the population calling themselves Ukrainian to be located in the middle of an empire. The Far-Eastern cossacks make somewhat more sense, and the same thing goes with the Kuban and Don Cossacks
As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia.
@@Real-Agent-Meta
Thanks for the bell icon tip and another great episode full of incredible research
Oh, no problem Tina and thank you so much!!!
0:11 As a Ukrainian, I agree with you, this is how Ukraine used to look before
I know about the UNR and the Green Wedge, and that there are any Ukrainian states other than the Green Wedge and part of the UNR
I'm from Ukraine Слава Україні
Чел просто не мог не скинуть зигу в конце 💀
@@bala_clava що таке зига?
@@user-bz4ds6ov1l зига (от древнеукраинского зiгати - отдавать честь) слово значит честь и уважение, отданное своей стране и Родине. Т.е. когда ты говоришь "Слава Украине", это можно также назвать "вскинуть зигу"
@@bala_clava так поняв дякую що росказав тепер є ще одне давньої Українське слово яке я знаю
@@user-bz4ds6ov1lтак брате в том же духе тримай ці дурні не ще не зрозуміли що ми всі нацики
I wonder in some crazy alternate history. What would happen to the various “Ukraines” if they still existed in the later half of the 20th century. Would they all become independent states or merge into a “Mega Ukraine” stretching from the Carpathian Mountains to the Pacific Ocean. All while spilt from Ukraine proper.
It's called Russian Empire
In reality it's impossible due to existing of Moscovian imperialism. Not only they didn't allow "Green State" and Kuban to separate. Now we are witnessing Russia couldn't even allow regular Ukraine to be independent.
Literally zero mention of the Circassian genocide when talking about Kuban republic but when it comes to Armenian or Anatolian Greeks, channels like these won't shut up about mentioning them.
what i came to look for, i guess kuban was always native ukrainian land 😑
@@ellisten4696what? Are u being srs or are you agreeing with the comment. It was obviously not always ukrainian land, all of southern ukraine wasnt.
@@thenoodletiger1869 yeah agreeing i think it's insane video glossed over this when it was literally >90% of a population being killed or expelled
@@ellisten4696 Yeah, I'm not saying Russia didn't do the same thing and settle the land alongside the Ukrainians, but if you favour one country over the other it's just propaganda and that's what this vid is.
@@thenoodletiger1869 i think favoring ukraine is perfectly fine, support of self-determination etc, but you can support ukraine while also denouncing their history and what they're doing to the hungarians in zakarpattia. i hate russian nationalism though and think slavs never should have crossed the urals
This video wants you be sympathetic towards ukranians and cossacks on the kuban while totally disregarding the indigenous circassian people, only getting a small cameo and basically sending the message that "oh the circassians once lived there and now cossacks and ukranians live there" what about the genocide and conquest that had to take place to achieve this state? The cossack and ukranian "land" that was supposedly "russified" was never ukranian/cossack land to begin with. They are just like the russians. Colonial settlers. Extremely shameful of the creator to completely ignore this.
Exactly, they sugarcoated it, the native Circassians were genocided by the Cossacks
It's incorrect to blame Ukrainians for genocides. The genocide is a systematic action, it was planned and executed by Russian imperialists. And yes, since Ukrainians were colonized at the time, they were forced to participate in any military actions. As well as Caucasians themselves, who were forced to genocide literally their own people. That's how empire works. And that is what Russia does now: using Caucassians, and other peoples from RF (and yes, Ukrainians as well) to commit genocidal actions in modern Ukraine.
Fascinating.
SLAVA UKRAINI
Это латиница? Ассимилируетесь?😂
@@zastiguy551поплач ,свинко. вона навіть не українка
@@zastiguy551 Dešewi prowakaciji🥱Po-perše, očewydno, ščo ce łyše transliteracija. Po-druhe, asymilaciji ukrajińców prahnuť tólky moskali. Po-tretie, róźni projekty ukrajińśkoji łatynyci widomi z 18 st., w biłorusynów šče raniše. Ti ž półdeńni słowjany spokójno ódmowyłysia ód kyrylyci abo korystujuťsia parałelno z łatynyceju