Group A might not as wild as Group B, but Group A still have its fame and its best cars such Lancia Delta, Ford Cosworth, Subaru WRX STI, MItsubishi Evo, Toyota Celica GT-4 etc.
@@greigsanderson For me Group A was more enjoyable to watch. Group B sheer power was spectacular, but handling was pretty disappointing. I also liked the fact Group A cars had some street car DNA in them, while still being competitive.
Group A was the better of the two, as rules dictated that 5000 must be produced world wide, which meant that rally enthusiast's could buy roadcar versions of the rally cars they were seeing each weekend.. Also by the end of group A, they were much faster than group B, due to advances in aero, ect.
@@jeancule4251hey watch your mouth mate!! Group B is dear to our hearts ..... Death is inevitable in any motorsports...F1 lost some good drivers too...paul walker lost his life on road in his Porsche... Group B made Henri immortal...
Although Group A was not as crazy as group B but it's still exciting nonetheless . No big aero or electronic assists. Just the skill of driver. This is so entertaining that I can watch it all day long.
Tutte 4wd, in line four cylinder 16 valve eppure tutte con il proprio carattere e suono!!!! Oggi sempre più tutti uguali e standardizzati in ogni cosa nella vita!!!! Ragionate W i gruppi A sempre e comunque!!!
I do like Group B also, but Group A is probably my favorite era of vehicular engineering and design. I love every single car from Group A. Wasn't a big fan of the Lancia 037 or some of the Renault / Peugeot vehicles from the B era. But Group A? The Subaru Impreza, the Lancia Delta, the GT-Four, the Escort Cosworth, the Evo. Come on.
As a spectator, be sure to stand in the optimum place to distract the driver, block his view or simply the most likely place to get hit by the car. The middle of the road is ideal.
without homologation now production derived motorsport is completely futile. who cares what a manufacturer can do? we care about what they sell can do. and they aren't selling us wrc spec cars are they?
2018 Focus RS, and Impreza WRX STI would be competitive with these cars. And they are our every day road cars. Quiet comfortable and safe with plenty of gadgets to distract drivers and weigh down the cars. I don't see your point. Motorsport is part of the reason why we have the technology in the cars of today
@@SmeiiyOctopus a focus rs would probably be a write off before the end of the rally even without a crash and a damn sight slower, group a cars weren't lancia fulvia and original mini. Road shells wouldn't be strong enough to go flat out. The point is wrc was popular when you could go to a dealership and buy a car that looked and sounds like mcraes car and drives how we imagine mcraes car drove. With no direct relationship between the competition car and the road car there's no purpose in the competition car. I want to buy a road going rally car, but they're all old now, they don't make them anymore, hence why i ride motorbikes, i can still have a road going sbk.
@@theant9821 trust me I would prefer an older rally car over the cars sold nowadays, but they would be 10× the price and have zero modern comforts.. which brings me back to my original point: the cars of today can hold their own against the older WRC cars and also have GPS, power windows, radios ect. Yeah Subaru isnt selling a WRC spec race car to the public, but that doesn't mean you cant build one from the chassis & motor that they currently sell. Also cant think of any WRC spec car sold from the factory/dealer ever..
@@SmeiiyOctopus I'm not talking about buy a car prepared to win the monte carlo or 1000 lakes. I'm talking about their nolonger being any relationship whatsoever between the wrc car and any car in the dealership. You park an evo 6 next to tommi makinens evo and other than the sponsors stickers they look the same, have basically the same engine, etc. You could buy a road going version of the rally car. The wrc spec cars have no relation to the road cars because they don't require homologations. Group a, lancia released the delta hf turbo, so it could win the world championship, then the delta integrale to win it again, then the integrale 16 valve so the rally car could have the 16v cylinder head to win it again, then the integrale evoluzione with wider wheel arches to allowfor wider wheels, vents for inproved cooling etc, so the rally car could stay competitive and win more championships. If an rs ford hasn't earned its name on the battlefield of motorsport its not a rallye sport at all, its just another boring fast car. If the car can't win odds are it can't win me over, hence why the the tme evo vi is the last of the breed, the last production homolgated car to win a world championship rally. The escort cosworth wasn't made to make money, ford lost money on every car, due to the fact it wasn't a ford escort in anything but name, it was a short wheelbase Sierra cosworth in an escort costume as the ordinary escort wasn't suitable and the Sierra was too big, so ford made a rally car into a road car and sold it to allow the rally car to go rallying. Modern fast cars are like seeing people dressing up pretending to be war heroes with fake gallantry medals. Its repulsive. Homologation specials are literally competition cars for the road. A focus rs is just a road car for the road, no more special than the base model.
Delta integrale gr A Sanremo 1989 (390 hp) Delta integrale evo (370 hp) Subaru 555 94-95-96 (360 hp) Celica st 185-205 (380/385 hp) Lancer evo (350 hp) Escort coswort tarmac config. 93 96 (360 hp) NO ELETTRONIC HELP NO PADDLE SHIFT NO ELETTRONIC DIFF. ecc
@@drazenbudis7881 from91 to 94 they can have this Power.. its not the Power Like a group b car..its a different type of Power and hp.. its all pure traction... But from 95 fia put new turbo regulations and less Power.. 300-320 hp
Hi, I really like your videos. Maybe I could share them on my facebook page? (download and upload) obviously I would leave the credits and the link to your channel. What do you say?
I don't really know about Group C, but this video will help to clarify the characteristics of Group B over Group A by watching them in action: ua-cam.com/video/Vxv-AUKsUs8/v-deo.html
Group A - Homologated race vehicles, 2500 (1993-1997) or 5000 (1982-1992) units must be produced and sold to public in order to be eligible for competition. Group A vehicles MUST be similar to the road car variants. Group B - Homologated race vehicles, 200 units must be produced and sold to the public in order to be eligible for competition. There is less restriction and rules in Group B compared to Group A. Manufacturers are can use different body materials, non-factory engine components not found in road car variants etc etc... Group C is not a rally class. However, Group N exists which is MUCH more restrictive than Group A where tuning is restricted and thus, the car is exactly the same as it's road car variant. This class is known as the "showroom class".
Group B is overrated. These cars are immediately quicker and more exciting to watch than the Group B cars that couldn't put their foot down or go around a corner in style. 90's rally wins!
I dont agree. Group B cars were monsters. Pilots had to drive "on eggs". From then it all went downhill (or uphill if you value human life) as the cars became more about safety (style as you put it) and less about beast mode. I like group B and group A for different reasons. But if I had to choose which car to on a ride between a Lancia delta S4 and an HF integrale, I'd choose the S4
Il Ford Coswort di delecour configurazione tour de Corse dichiaravano 360 cavalli. Il delta rosso 1989 di Biasion configurazione asfalto x il Sanremo 390 cavalli e anche le Toyota si parla girassero sui 360 380 cavalli. Tutto questo ovviamente senza elettronica aiuti guida e cambio al volante... Pedale della frizione cambio ad H e puro stile di guida.. McRae col Subaru si faceva il colle lagan in discesa una mano sul volante e l'altra alternata tra cambio e freno a mano.. altro che Loeb che guidava astronavi contro delle mezze seghe questo era rally vero..
Rally Love 😂😂concordo... Sono un fan lancia ma credimi che la escort e la sierra avevano molti più cavalli ma peccavano in erogazione un po più appuntita e più in alto.
@Filippo Corsi Have a gander at 0:03 ^_^ Anyways, it was just a joke. Unfortunately I couldn't find the other YT video where someone was excessively throwing hands before a drag race.
+Dacrazy-can At least they had fun and probably a time of their lives. I get goosebumps from just looking at that crowd. What a scene it was back than. Not like now. Loosers are just standing with their stupid phones.
Some people blamed the group B cars performance for their cancellation. However, there can be no doubt that the true responsibility is that of a very large number of spectators in certain countries. They exhibit no common sense and no respect for the drivers having to drive close to flat out between them. International rallying should have scrapped the events in those countries. The rally organizers should publicly announce that any spectator within 15feet of the track and the stage will be cancelled. If it happens again. The rally will never again take place there.
Yeah great era for the cars,just a shame the dumb spectators spoilt it,same as what there starting to do in cycling,always dumb spaniards or Portuguese.👎💩
![International Swedish Rally 1995 | Group A [Passats de canto] (Telesport)](/img/n.gif)
The cars? Excellent.
The drivers? Peerless.
The sport? Awesome.
The spectators? Darwin award.
Well darwin hofers all of them
Natural selection..
Group A might not as wild as Group B, but Group A still have its fame and its best cars such Lancia Delta, Ford Cosworth, Subaru WRX STI, MItsubishi Evo, Toyota Celica GT-4 etc.
Group A handled better and would often beat group B due to this fact.
Those cars didn't wanted to kill their drivers
@@greigsanderson For me Group A was more enjoyable to watch. Group B sheer power was spectacular, but handling was pretty disappointing. I also liked the fact Group A cars had some street car DNA in them, while still being competitive.
Group A was the better of the two, as rules dictated that 5000 must be produced world wide, which meant that rally enthusiast's could buy roadcar versions of the rally cars they were seeing each weekend..
Also by the end of group A, they were much faster than group B, due to advances in aero, ect.
@@jeancule4251hey watch your mouth mate!! Group B is dear to our hearts ..... Death is inevitable in any motorsports...F1 lost some good drivers too...paul walker lost his life on road in his Porsche...
Group B made Henri immortal...
Group A was the best era of rally racing to date. i still go back and watch guys like makinen, Carlos and Colin
Group b?
group b
Group B
@@Zak-ob5ze en el 89 ya no quedaba ningún récord de el grupo b,los grupos a los jubilaron y fueron mejores,lo demás es solo nostalgia.
Kankkunen and Miki biasion
Although Group A was not as crazy as group B but it's still exciting nonetheless . No big aero or electronic assists. Just the skill of driver. This is so entertaining that I can watch it all day long.
Those celicas were such a sexy little car.
I do like the first 1997-1999 WRC spec cars. They still had flashes of Gr. A in them.
I litteraly cried watching this, it was really something back then... really beautifull driving. Such control and boldness i could never 😭
the best years of TOYOTA
And also lancia.I mean toyota was least now but lancia more worst in this day apart from they make that little city car just sold in italy
T O Y O T A C E L I C A
Great video. The group A years were by far the best :)
Celica GT4 vicious bastard on and off road!
Tutte 4wd, in line four cylinder 16 valve eppure tutte con il proprio carattere e suono!!!!
Oggi sempre più tutti uguali e standardizzati in ogni cosa nella vita!!!!
Ragionate
W i gruppi A sempre e comunque!!!
This brutal sound pure Gold
So many car brands, so many cars and rallies, what a magnificent era!!
I often wonder if the crowds like these were a motivator or a distraction for the drivers.
The drivers werent that happy because they didnt See the street and were always one mistake away of killing a bunch of spectators
+Nino Schier
On the oder side they knew that all the People were here to See them. So they knew they are the heroes
There're many onboard videos where drivers like Colin McRae and Carlos Sainz actively complain about the spectators
@@DanArnets1492 colin also hit the spectators like 5 times in his carrer or even more times which we dont know about
Everyone in the 80's bought the same blue jeans apparently
90's
@@ABeans07 *And the
@@ABeans07 It's like watching Moses part the red sea but it's made of Levi's
of course their are all rally jeans :D
@@davidmaruniak4855 WRJ = world rally jeans
1993 was actually TOYOTA vs Ford which was totally exciting !
Love seeing these small boxy four wheel stuff with big Turbo and awd rushing on dirt
Rally was crazy back then
I do like Group B also, but Group A is probably my favorite era of vehicular engineering and design. I love every single car from Group A. Wasn't a big fan of the Lancia 037 or some of the Renault / Peugeot vehicles from the B era. But Group A? The Subaru Impreza, the Lancia Delta, the GT-Four, the Escort Cosworth, the Evo. Come on.
Not a single Subaru clip in this compilation. Sacrilegious.
look at that corner exit speed, deum.
imagine how mad were the drivers when the fans were blocking the roads
Search up WRC Portugal 1997, where sainz and McRae both complained about fans on the road
As a spectator, be sure to stand in the optimum place to distract the driver, block his view or simply the most likely place to get hit by the car. The middle of the road is ideal.
I actually owned a Toyota Celica for my first ever car. So Group A always has a special place for me because of that car lol
Los mejores de la historia del rally mundial.
There were some great group A cars
Great Cars from 1990 to 1996
Hab auch den CELICA ST185 ,, liebe das ding``
Andy back then you had Ford Audi Toyota Mitsubishi among other cars that was in rally racing Subaru came in rally racing a few years later
Awesome thanks for this
without homologation now production derived motorsport is completely futile. who cares what a manufacturer can do? we care about what they sell can do. and they aren't selling us wrc spec cars are they?
2018 Focus RS, and Impreza WRX STI would be competitive with these cars. And they are our every day road cars. Quiet comfortable and safe with plenty of gadgets to distract drivers and weigh down the cars. I don't see your point. Motorsport is part of the reason why we have the technology in the cars of today
Subie, Focus, Evo are your everyday cars.
Subie kill its EJ20 engine recently
@@SmeiiyOctopus a focus rs would probably be a write off before the end of the rally even without a crash and a damn sight slower, group a cars weren't lancia fulvia and original mini.
Road shells wouldn't be strong enough to go flat out.
The point is wrc was popular when you could go to a dealership and buy a car that looked and sounds like mcraes car and drives how we imagine mcraes car drove.
With no direct relationship between the competition car and the road car there's no purpose in the competition car.
I want to buy a road going rally car, but they're all old now, they don't make them anymore, hence why i ride motorbikes, i can still have a road going sbk.
@@theant9821 trust me I would prefer an older rally car over the cars sold nowadays, but they would be 10× the price and have zero modern comforts.. which brings me back to my original point: the cars of today can hold their own against the older WRC cars and also have GPS, power windows, radios ect. Yeah Subaru isnt selling a WRC spec race car to the public, but that doesn't mean you cant build one from the chassis & motor that they currently sell. Also cant think of any WRC spec car sold from the factory/dealer ever..
@@SmeiiyOctopus I'm not talking about buy a car prepared to win the monte carlo or 1000 lakes. I'm talking about their nolonger being any relationship whatsoever between the wrc car and any car in the dealership.
You park an evo 6 next to tommi makinens evo and other than the sponsors stickers they look the same, have basically the same engine, etc. You could buy a road going version of the rally car. The wrc spec cars have no relation to the road cars because they don't require homologations.
Group a, lancia released the delta hf turbo, so it could win the world championship, then the delta integrale to win it again, then the integrale 16 valve so the rally car could have the 16v cylinder head to win it again, then the integrale evoluzione with wider wheel arches to allowfor wider wheels, vents for inproved cooling etc, so the rally car could stay competitive and win more championships.
If an rs ford hasn't earned its name on the battlefield of motorsport its not a rallye sport at all, its just another boring fast car.
If the car can't win odds are it can't win me over, hence why the the tme evo vi is the last of the breed, the last production homolgated car to win a world championship rally.
The escort cosworth wasn't made to make money, ford lost money on every car, due to the fact it wasn't a ford escort in anything but name, it was a short wheelbase Sierra cosworth in an escort costume as the ordinary escort wasn't suitable and the Sierra was too big, so ford made a rally car into a road car and sold it to allow the rally car to go rallying.
Modern fast cars are like seeing people dressing up pretending to be war heroes with fake gallantry medals. Its repulsive.
Homologation specials are literally competition cars for the road.
A focus rs is just a road car for the road, no more special than the base model.
5:40 "Ma vaffanculo, stronzo!" hahahahah
Forza Lancia!
Morto nel sentirlo ahaha
sto male ahahahah
Credo che si riferisse al tizio che bloccava l' inquadratura
Group A > Group B
Qué belleza esas bestias, a pura potencia espectacular 👏👏👏👏👍😃
te felicito por este gran vídeo, muchas gracias
Group A is beast car in rally
Delta integrale gr A Sanremo 1989 (390 hp)
Delta integrale evo (370 hp)
Subaru 555 94-95-96 (360 hp)
Celica st 185-205 (380/385 hp)
Lancer evo (350 hp)
Escort coswort tarmac config. 93 96 (360 hp)
NO ELETTRONIC HELP NO PADDLE SHIFT NO ELETTRONIC DIFF. ecc
Pure Power 😬💥
So they all cheated?
@@drazenbudis7881 from91 to 94 they can have this Power.. its not the Power Like a group b car..its a different type of Power and hp.. its all pure traction... But from 95 fia put new turbo regulations and less Power.. 300-320 hp
Those were the dayz...
Nice amount of ads.
Damn the ford RS codsworth were good
So cool ❗️
I long for a celica alltrac
Hi, I really like your videos. Maybe I could share them on my facebook page? (download and upload) obviously I would leave the credits and the link to your channel. What do you say?
Why do they always zoom wayyy in?
la gente se arriesgaba mucho
Anti lag technology at it's best!
Bastavano ed avanzavano ed ESISTEVANO!!!
Actually what is the difference between group a, b and c rally?
I don't really know about Group C, but this video will help to clarify the characteristics of Group B over Group A by watching them in action: ua-cam.com/video/Vxv-AUKsUs8/v-deo.html
Letters
Base production cars.
A - 4-door cars or variation of those
B - 2-door GT cars
C - Don't need
And Gr.C was not eligible for rallying.
Group A - Homologated race vehicles, 2500 (1993-1997) or 5000 (1982-1992) units must be produced and sold to public in order to be eligible for competition. Group A vehicles MUST be similar to the road car variants.
Group B - Homologated race vehicles, 200 units must be produced and sold to the public in order to be eligible for competition. There is less restriction and rules in Group B compared to Group A. Manufacturers are can use different body materials, non-factory engine components not found in road car variants etc etc...
Group C is not a rally class. However, Group N exists which is MUCH more restrictive than Group A where tuning is restricted and thus, the car is exactly the same as it's road car variant. This class is known as the "showroom class".
Delta, Celica. The best
The best sound
Group B is overrated. These cars are immediately quicker and more exciting to watch than the Group B cars that couldn't put their foot down or go around a corner in style. 90's rally wins!
I dont agree. Group B cars were monsters. Pilots had to drive "on eggs". From then it all went downhill (or uphill if you value human life) as the cars became more about safety (style as you put it) and less about beast mode. I like group B and group A for different reasons. But if I had to choose which car to on a ride between a Lancia delta S4 and an HF integrale, I'd choose the S4
Group A the rise of the japanese Cars!
やっぱり90年代のWRCが自分にはしっくりくる。
バタネン・ピロネン・トイボネンも好きだけど、サインツ・マクレー・マキネンも好き。…ディディエも…まあ。
…でも、なんのかんのでユハ・カンクネンとコ・ドライバーのルイス・モヤが男気有って好き。
寒い時には「ブルーノ・サピー」って叫んじゃう。
con flangia da 38 cioè fino al 1994 le gruppo a secondo me passavano i 400cv (ford toyota e mitsu) ma poi quanto cazzo girava l escort??
Il Ford Coswort di delecour configurazione tour de Corse dichiaravano 360 cavalli. Il delta rosso 1989 di Biasion configurazione asfalto x il Sanremo 390 cavalli e anche le Toyota si parla girassero sui 360 380 cavalli. Tutto questo ovviamente senza elettronica aiuti guida e cambio al volante... Pedale della frizione cambio ad H e puro stile di guida.. McRae col Subaru si faceva il colle lagan in discesa una mano sul volante e l'altra alternata tra cambio e freno a mano.. altro che Loeb che guidava astronavi contro delle mezze seghe questo era rally vero..
Rally Love 😂😂concordo...
Sono un fan lancia ma credimi che la escort e la sierra avevano molti più cavalli ma peccavano in erogazione un po più appuntita e più in alto.
@@lucaradaelli79 lancia li sapeva scaricare meglio a terra forse.. trazione integrale sopraffina
min 5:39 (vaff***lo--str**zo) perché????
I wish they could still do those gang signs in today´s WRC
This is an extremely underated comment.
@@mrc7966 hihi •̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙
*BWAAAAAAAAH STUTUTUTUTU*
@Filippo Corsi Have a gander at 0:03 ^_^
Anyways, it was just a joke. Unfortunately I couldn't find the other YT video where someone was excessively throwing hands before a drag race.
Esto es de cuando los rallys eran pues eso rallys no lo de ahora proyectos de avionetas con mil apéndices aerodinámicos con ruedas
La era dorada del rally
The difficulties for drivers in that age: spectators, flashes and also 3:42 smoke! Actually that people didn't have respect for drivers
WRCでST-185の走りに一目惚れして、マジで翌日実車を買いましたw
自分は千葉トヨタグループの会社に勤務してますが、千葉のトヨタは
「千葉トヨタグループ」と「勝又トヨタグループ」に分かれていて、当然千葉トヨタグループの社員は
勝又トヨタグループの取扱車種に乗ってはいけません。ST-185は勝又トヨタの取扱車種ですから
本来自分は購入する事が出来ません。がしかし。
女の子と同じで、惚れちまったもんは仕方ないぜ。
やると決めたらやる！行くと決めたら行く！自分の信念と感情を大切に
法律違反でなければ突き進む。やってみる。
納車後、堂々とST-185を会社に乗り入れたら、それなりに問題になりましたけどねwww
そんなの関係ねぇ〜。だって、セリカが大好きなんだもん。
一応、トヨタの看板着いてるしね。
Imagine having a foggy windshield and trying to look at the count.
Gratos recuerdos, de aquella yo tenia un lancia igual solo que de fabria normal , no de torino por supuesto.
people didnt give a shit about safety lol
+Dacrazy-can What a bunch of suicidal morons
+Dacrazy-can At least they had fun and probably a time of their lives. I get goosebumps from just looking at that crowd. What a scene it was back than.
Not like now. Loosers are just standing with their stupid phones.
+Fiddlesticks WT And thanks to that, Group B was no more. What a shame. With more emphasis on safety, Group B could have become something interesting.
I can think of much less desirable ways to die. that would probably make it in my top 20 best ways actually
supramanx1997 yeah, and who cares about the effect it would have on other people...
Disappointing this is predominantly Celica then ford and Lancia... you've left out the most Iconic Grp A car IMPREZA WRX STi
So true
Es todo del rallye de Montecarlo 1993. No existía el Impreza, ni siquiera en su primera versión.
Now days WRC is dying because of the stupid hp limitation. All cars are pretty much same. No surprise why rally is dying.
When it was done with cars you could go out and buy. Bring back homologation rules!
Slow motion please
The crowds feel dangerous
Come 190 bozy vs cuzy
where was Subaru ??
+Andy Kane ua-cam.com/video/u9Xx_L0Rhjw/v-deo.html
+rosmanao videos yes I know macrea I'm taking about this rally
This video looks to be about 1988 to 1992. The legacy wasn't worth seeing. The 555 imprezas came in late 93.
heyitsbmf12 the evo 3 came out in 93 and it's there
@@andykane439 The Evo III came out in 1995, in the video the model is not an Evo 3 but an Evo 2 that came out in 1993.
awesome
ああ
le vere auto da rally! almeno c erano anche le stradali simili
By the way,spectator is the most bravest👍 they're all wishing death lol😆
Great time for motosport, but boy the fans were stupid
Some people blamed the group B cars performance for their cancellation. However, there can be no doubt that the true responsibility is that of a very large number of spectators in certain countries. They exhibit no common sense and no respect for the drivers having to drive close to flat out between them. International rallying should have scrapped the events in those countries. The rally organizers should publicly announce that any spectator within 15feet of the track and the stage will be cancelled. If it happens again. The rally will never again take place there.
why couldnt them damn spectators stay back a little more, then we would still be able to see these cars and Group B events to this day
Spectators had nothing to do with introduction of WRCars in 97
emily gnr engine was 120 53
Engine of the trueno came from any of these cars
Toyota celica
Boas
Tens que fazer mais destes vídeos.🔝
やっぱりターマックは、ブン回してなんぼよね～
ドリフト万歳🙌
Dont think i will be going to see any ...hybrid or ....electric rally events ...bring back group b ffs
Epic monsters
2:41 figa che rischio!
185セリカの格好良さったら無いです。
Yeah great era for the cars,just a shame the dumb spectators spoilt it,same as what there starting to do in cycling,always dumb spaniards or Portuguese.👎💩
avrei messo qualche publicità in +
Tight likely because the line is changed by the movement of the audience
Come on locomotvies 25
Need me a altrac gt4 😂
6連補助灯、自分の車にも付けたいなぁw
GROUP B!!! :-)
everybody wants to get hit...
Básicamente Montecarlo 1993
Gnr no steam engine fan andio
The big city engine csx
Come roos and alice emily fan mr 170 trubo
Come jeff 190 50000000 locomotvies
Mallard class class a4s e2s
I don big tools csx
Celica so sexy