Yes, huge issue as this is marketed to pedalboards and switcher are very common. I have mine working using a midi patchbay but it takes space and it’s just a very annoying bug.
Of course there is... In the hx series you have the M5 line of effects (legacy) as well as the new algorithms. So, you can make the comparison with a hx stomp or similar product, I believe.
@@rikhavenno point in comparing it with the infinetly more versatile cab and amp loaded hx stomp. Not even in the same stratosphere. Comparing it to the M5 and Hx effects makes a lot more sense.
A thing that I personally miss is the capability to save On/Off status of the effect, inside the preset you save. If you use a midi controller and an expression pedal attached to the controller, is a very needed feature: so you can change a whole preset for all your pedals and recall a pitch shifter, for instance, but you'll activate using the expression pedal and not immediately (affecting your sound) I used to do this in an old Line6 M5 and works perfectly, I don't see why this is not possible on HX one. Another confirmed bug is the midi thru not working as they said in the manual. They confirmed directly to me in a ticket I sent through line6 web site. I also missing the legacy effects list a lot, but seems to be a deliberate choice, not a bug...
Thank you for an honest and balanced opinion on this amazing little unit... I've got mine for three days or so now, so I certainly haven't fully explored its possibilities, consequently-haven't noticed some of the drawbacks you mention in your video. One thing that I noticed immediately, and which is quite annoying, is that when you press the selection knob and don't turn it fast enough you land in the global options menu instead of the effect categories. Otherwise I really enjoy the quality of some of the effects, particularly modulation and delays.
Pre and Post has to be used the other way round: see manual "*NOTE: This option is only available when the preceding Knob 2 - “I/O Config” is set to “Insert.” Choose whether you want the HX One effects loop positioned before (“Pre”) or after (“Post”) the current HX One effect model’s processing. "
Yeah, it's a weird naming scheme for that - it refers to the placement of your amp rather than the HX One. So, if you want your amp to be before the HX One, select PRE (HX One would then be post-amp). If you want your amp to be after the HX One, select POST. It really caught me out
Has anyone found a way to save the preset to off until you want it on? Rather than selecting a preset and then turning the effect off until you actually need it?
One thing I found that's kind of annoying, if you use an external double footswitch for scrolling through presets, it turns the preset on, I couldn't find a way to make them 'off unless you engage the on switch'. Not a deal breaker, something they could easily give an option for and not really a big deal, just a little annoying.
I think the volume disparity between effects might be due to leaving the input z parameter on auto. Try setting it to a specific value on all your patches and cycle through them to see if the disparity still occurs.
The dealbreaker for me was when scrolling, the screen is too small to read 3 lines of text. My vision isn't perfect, but this unit could have benefitted from a larger screen or having just one line of text with the number so that you can scroll up or down from there. I typically know my presets by number, but if I can't tell which chorus preset I'm on and I need to scroll, I gotta lean down like an old man to see what number it is.
I can see that being a problem for sure. It would be good to have more options for UI given the constraints of the screen. I've got pretty perfect vision and even I have to focus in a lot to read it from standing. Simplified UI under something like "Live Mode" might be better, where it's just the preset name on-screen for better readability
Hey Kai, do you know if the input gate on the hx one affect both inputs? Say I’m running in the 4 cable method for the unit, does it mean the gate is applied twice or does it only apply to the input where I’m running the effect (pre or post)? Or is it fixed where it always affects only a single input (left or right)?
Wow not having the momentary option is crazy. The whole reason I wanted to get this was because I wanted the Digitech whammy ricochet. Literally the whole point is an automatic hold switch raise octaves release in a steady time based way. Dahm
One thing I found in trying to use my MC6 MIDI controller for it, at first as I switched to different sections I made on MIDI to engage different pedals for certain song sections or change songs, it would turn the pedal on and off in a frustrating way (CC 1, value 0 to turn on and off). However, found if you assign CC4 and value 0, it will turn it off or bypass it every time you use that MIDI switch. Quirky programming stuff that was not easy to find for me. Maybe it will help someone. Still a lot to figure out. Have not even attempted the Flux, or understanding how the preset saving part works.
Thanks. All good info to know. I haven't purchased this yet. In Flux mode.... can the mode be set to infinite for the parameter change until the footswitch press brings it back to the non Flux setting? Eg having a short delay as standard then a longer delay continuously on in Flux mode?
I bought Hx One assuming it has momentary switches (special for flux), since I have Line 6 Stomp and it has that. Huge miss by Line 6 in my opinion, 10/10 as you put it, really disappointing. Do you thing that can be fixed by software update or is it a hardware thing, so no hope?
You can use MIDI to control your preset changes, parameter changes and things like that, but I would be hesitant to grab a MIDI controller solely for the purposes of controlling the HX One. I’d probably sooner opt for an expression pedal and external switch combo instead
This may sound strange but I just use it simply as my standalone reverb pedal. That’s it. It’s cheaper than a strymon and sounds almost as good. Granted I’m only using a 20% mix at max but really that’s why I couldn’t justify a strymon. I know that cordy has said he likes the helix verbs and I can’t disagree. The plate and room are lovely. So I set it and forget it… works for me. The nice plus is if I do need some other random effect, it’s right there in the unit.
I do love the reverbs in HX One - I've been trying to figure out what pedals the HX One is making redundant for the next board build. Reverbs in the HX One are better than anything else I've got, but I also love stacking the HX One modulations with my existing reverb pedal. The standard plate reverb is wonderful, I also really like the new nonlinear reverb and the Ganymede.
Honestly, your use of this pedal as a standalone is not far off for my use either. For me I'm gonna be using it in front of my Headrush mx5 strictly as a polyphonic pitch shift as I use a bunch of different tunings in my music. The pitch effect is the BEST out of all modelers including Headrush (they have their own downtune). On top of that, I'd be using midi control on the hx one alongside the mx5 for setlists. Also can act as tuner, noise gate, and input ohm for guitars that are real high output. The digitech drop pedal is too limited in use and function, and the whammy dt is too big and too expensive (although priced the same). So go figure lol I'd still be hesitant on the hx one overall but I also had giftcards and vouchers to purchase one. If you find it cheaper then I'd say it's worth considering. 👍
I just don't understand why the looper is jist a one button affair such as the Tc ditto. Why not use the tap/flux button as a stop like all other looper of this form factor. Does my head in. Also as I use midi the not seeing preset name in the main display is a pain in the ass.
17 minutes of watching…. Seems he succeeded in what he was trying to accomplish if you stayed around. If you’re looking to listen to playing, then watch/listen posts of songs. If you want opinions or reviews, then buck up and prepare to hear some talking. That’s how it works. 🤷♂️
The MIDI thru has a bug as well
Pinning this comment - it's not something I can test out myself, but I've heard a few people mentioning this one
Yes, huge issue as this is marketed to pedalboards and switcher are very common. I have mine working using a midi patchbay but it takes space and it’s just a very annoying bug.
What is the bug?
Thanks for all your HX One reviews. Really helpful. Down to £199 as from Oct 2024 in the UK....very tempted
shoot it out with a line 6 M5. I would like to see if there's a big difference in Fxs quality!
Of course there is... In the hx series you have the M5 line of effects (legacy) as well as the new algorithms. So, you can make the comparison with a hx stomp or similar product, I believe.
@@rikhavenno point in comparing it with the infinetly more versatile cab and amp loaded hx stomp. Not even in the same stratosphere. Comparing it to the M5 and Hx effects makes a lot more sense.
A thing that I personally miss is the capability to save On/Off status of the effect, inside the preset you save.
If you use a midi controller and an expression pedal attached to the controller, is a very needed feature: so you can change a whole preset for all your pedals and recall a pitch shifter, for instance, but you'll activate using the expression pedal and not immediately (affecting your sound)
I used to do this in an old Line6 M5 and works perfectly, I don't see why this is not possible on HX one.
Another confirmed bug is the midi thru not working as they said in the manual.
They confirmed directly to me in a ticket I sent through line6 web site.
I also missing the legacy effects list a lot, but seems to be a deliberate choice, not a bug...
Thank you for an honest and balanced opinion on this amazing little unit... I've got mine for three days or so now, so I certainly haven't fully explored its possibilities, consequently-haven't noticed some of the drawbacks you mention in your video. One thing that I noticed immediately, and which is quite annoying, is that when you press the selection knob and don't turn it fast enough you land in the global options menu instead of the effect categories.
Otherwise I really enjoy the quality of some of the effects, particularly modulation and delays.
Very informative. Thx
Pre and Post has to be used the other way round: see manual "*NOTE: This option is only available when the preceding Knob 2 - “I/O Config” is set to “Insert.”
Choose whether you want the HX One effects loop positioned before (“Pre”) or after (“Post”) the current
HX One effect model’s processing. "
Yeah, it's a weird naming scheme for that - it refers to the placement of your amp rather than the HX One. So, if you want your amp to be before the HX One, select PRE (HX One would then be post-amp). If you want your amp to be after the HX One, select POST. It really caught me out
Thanks for sharing my comment about the preset names at 14:30. I would love a software update with this option. Great video!
Definitely a cool idea, and I see no harm in them adding it at all
after 9 months the situation has not changed. No update has been released.
Yep, hopefully there will be an update in line with the next Helix feature update
Please compare the HX One to the Eventide H9!
This is what I am interested in as well.
Has anyone found a way to save the preset to off until you want it on? Rather than selecting a preset and then turning the effect off until you actually need it?
It’s totally awesome. I have found nothing wrong with it. I love it more every day.
Hey kai! im getting a weird one sounded signal when I use true bypass, did you find that? it's fine when its in DSP bypass
I'm really surprised that I can't edit the One in HX Edit. The Librarian is of very limited use. And Editor would be much more useful.
One thing I found that's kind of annoying, if you use an external double footswitch for scrolling through presets, it turns the preset on, I couldn't find a way to make them 'off unless you engage the on switch'. Not a deal breaker, something they could easily give an option for and not really a big deal, just a little annoying.
I think the volume disparity between effects might be due to leaving the input z parameter on auto. Try setting it to a specific value on all your patches and cycle through them to see if the disparity still occurs.
The dealbreaker for me was when scrolling, the screen is too small to read 3 lines of text. My vision isn't perfect, but this unit could have benefitted from a larger screen or having just one line of text with the number so that you can scroll up or down from there. I typically know my presets by number, but if I can't tell which chorus preset I'm on and I need to scroll, I gotta lean down like an old man to see what number it is.
I can see that being a problem for sure. It would be good to have more options for UI given the constraints of the screen. I've got pretty perfect vision and even I have to focus in a lot to read it from standing. Simplified UI under something like "Live Mode" might be better, where it's just the preset name on-screen for better readability
Hey Kai, do you know if the input gate on the hx one affect both inputs? Say I’m running in the 4 cable method for the unit, does it mean the gate is applied twice or does it only apply to the input where I’m running the effect (pre or post)? Or is it fixed where it always affects only a single input (left or right)?
Fairly certain it’s linked to the pedal’s position in your chain - ie, only applied wherever the effect is applied
Wow not having the momentary option is crazy. The whole reason I wanted to get this was because I wanted the Digitech whammy
ricochet. Literally the whole point is an automatic hold switch raise octaves release in a steady time based way. Dahm
One thing I found in trying to use my MC6 MIDI controller for it, at first as I switched to different sections I made on MIDI to engage different pedals for certain song sections or change songs, it would turn the pedal on and off in a frustrating way (CC 1, value 0 to turn on and off). However, found if you assign CC4 and value 0, it will turn it off or bypass it every time you use that MIDI switch. Quirky programming stuff that was not easy to find for me. Maybe it will help someone. Still a lot to figure out. Have not even attempted the Flux, or understanding how the preset saving part works.
Tks for the video
Line 6 m5 vs line 6 hx one... To see if the efx quality are really improved tks
Thanks. All good info to know. I haven't purchased this yet. In Flux mode.... can the mode be set to infinite for the parameter change until the footswitch press brings it back to the non Flux setting? Eg having a short delay as standard then a longer delay continuously on in Flux mode?
Yes you can - many of the delays have infinite settings, and effect parameters can be controlled by Flux
I bought Hx One assuming it has momentary switches (special for flux), since I have Line 6 Stomp and it has that. Huge miss by Line 6 in my opinion, 10/10 as you put it, really disappointing. Do you thing that can be fixed by software update or is it a hardware thing, so no hope?
Should be fixable via software update - may even be currently configurable with a MIDI controller
Is this powerful enough to be used with midi as a multi fx (morningstar mc 6) for example?
You can use MIDI to control your preset changes, parameter changes and things like that, but I would be hesitant to grab a MIDI controller solely for the purposes of controlling the HX One. I’d probably sooner opt for an expression pedal and external switch combo instead
Does it have tone suck? I feel like my HX Stomp has quite a bit of tone suck. I love the form factor however.
Not that I've noticed, it seems to be pretty clean to me
Set it to true bypass mode to fix tone suck. You won’t get trails but you’ll literally hear the tone improve. At least that was my experience
This may sound strange but I just use it simply as my standalone reverb pedal. That’s it. It’s cheaper than a strymon and sounds almost as good. Granted I’m only using a 20% mix at max but really that’s why I couldn’t justify a strymon.
I know that cordy has said he likes the helix verbs and I can’t disagree. The plate and room are lovely.
So I set it and forget it… works for me.
The nice plus is if I do need some other random effect, it’s right there in the unit.
I do love the reverbs in HX One - I've been trying to figure out what pedals the HX One is making redundant for the next board build. Reverbs in the HX One are better than anything else I've got, but I also love stacking the HX One modulations with my existing reverb pedal. The standard plate reverb is wonderful, I also really like the new nonlinear reverb and the Ganymede.
Honestly, your use of this pedal as a standalone is not far off for my use either. For me I'm gonna be using it in front of my Headrush mx5 strictly as a polyphonic pitch shift as I use a bunch of different tunings in my music. The pitch effect is the BEST out of all modelers including Headrush (they have their own downtune).
On top of that, I'd be using midi control on the hx one alongside the mx5 for setlists. Also can act as tuner, noise gate, and input ohm for guitars that are real high output.
The digitech drop pedal is too limited in use and function, and the whammy dt is too big and too expensive (although priced the same). So go figure lol
I'd still be hesitant on the hx one overall but I also had giftcards and vouchers to purchase one. If you find it cheaper then I'd say it's worth considering. 👍
Hi Kai, I received mine yesterday but the tap tempo doesn't seem to work. Is there something I should do to make it work?
Press the parameter knob for the time on delays and it'll switch from ms to note sync - that note sync will work with your tap tempo
@@KaiDown thanks a lot
The line6 express is the distortion any good
Ampero mini vs line 6 hx one.. and compare the efx quality thanks.
Judging by the demo of the tuner bug, it’s most likely user error.
Bass demooooo!!!
Good shout!
I just don't understand why the looper is jist a one button affair such as the Tc ditto.
Why not use the tap/flux button as a stop like all other looper of this form factor. Does my head
in.
Also as I use midi the not seeing preset name in the main display is a pain in the ass.
No distortion
Nearly 1k subs 👀
We're getting there! 💪
ROAD TO 1K SUBS!!!
YEA BABY
17 minutes talking with the guitar on hand and no playing...
True. 🤔
17 minutes of watching…. Seems he succeeded in what he was trying to accomplish if you stayed around.
If you’re looking to listen to playing, then watch/listen posts of songs. If you want opinions or reviews, then buck up and prepare to hear some talking. That’s how it works. 🤷♂️
As someone who listens to review videos in the background on 1.5x speed. This is good with me!
Time to make a thanks for 1000 subs video next 😉
I'd love to be the type of person that says I've got big things planned, but hey 😆
@@KaiDown Don't you? Of course you do 🤘
Hoding the guitar but never using it. Epic fail! Never played the HX One as of yet on your videos. Epic fail again! You sure love to talk.