The way he said “Yada” Actually choked me the fuck up in my first time viewing. Usually grieving in anime is hella cheesy but goddamn the VA made me believe he just had his friend ripped straight from him.
Why the hell did they change part with weapon in corpse!? It made sense, becuae they would see any weapon in coffin, but not the actall body. In DNT he puts full sized rocket launcher in coffin, and nobody notices it.
The part where Oberstein made himself as a shield in the OVA was not in actual novel where as here in the DNT version is what actually happened in the novel and even the dialogues are the exact same ones you’ll read in there. So that means the OVA is the one who has changes rather than the DNT ver in terms of following the actual source material. That’s why we need to stop regarding the DNT as a ‘remake’ from the OVA, but as another adaptation of the novel.
@@angeldiamse Yes. The OVA makes it less ambiguous that Oberstein had nothing to do with the assassination, whereas this version allows some readers to assume he may have staged it.
i think they still did it in this show, since ansbach told some soldiers to bring braunschweig's dead body into the infirmary to put the weapon inside him, but it was less obvious here
I prefer the ova scene for the animation and display for this scene, but the voice acting in the remake really portrays reinhard’s pain better. Both are beautiful, but the ova still remains my favorite
This goes to show, how loyal Kircheis was, 96% of the cast if put in Kircheis shoes, would likely let Reinhardt die or not react in time to save him, Kircheis is one of the few who would risk his life like this for no reward other than saving his childhood friend while losing the chance to build a family with his lover.
errthing bout this scene just hurt me bro, the foreshadowing, the realistic voice acting, actually mournful, it just makes it seem like someone actually died for dis scene bruh
I always found it hard to believe that even the advancement of the technology to the point that warp and space travel became possible, humans life are so fragile.
The art of killing always walked side by side with the art of healing. We can cure people of cancer, malaria, and other diseases that didn't have a cure for millenia. But we can also erase the whole planet just with some nuclear bombs...
I really like the voice acting and music they choosed for this, It really gives me chills, I think is an improvement over the original, altough I like both. That being said it the weapon part in the new version takes too long is weird how everyone doesn´t take inmediate action.
To this day i still dont understand how the guards allowed Ansbach to get in with that laser ring ? I thought weapons weren't allowed, or did no one know about rings that shoot lasers ? Is that a secret weapon only known to Ansbach ?
I think the weapon was hidden in the corpse or something...I guess Reinhard was too arrogant to have it properly searched. That is kinda one of his defining character traits. He nearly dies several times due to his arrogance.
Think about it, a dude comes to a fallout new vegas casino with a cane, are you going to assume it´s a cane sword and inspect the canes of every man who comes into the casino?? This situation is kinda similar, Reinhardt and pals had plenty of deserters from the enemy faction joining in, after the first dozens to hundreds and then thousands of deserters they were bound to let their guards down once the enemy leader went down. It´s like assuming a Dictator will always have their guards up and inspect everything in their lives to prevent assassinations, that may work or not, even if the dictator is on high guard it doesnt mean the people working under him/her will do the same, mistakes are bound to happen.
Good thing I waited 4 months to watch this to get rid of the spoilers so sad that Kirchies had to die :( I thought they were gonna rule the Universe together.
Haven't watched the new one but in the OVA as well as the novel, admirals cannot bear arms when entering Reinhard's place. Kircheis used to be exempt from this rule but Oberstein criticized Reinhard for favoritism and then he applied the same rule for his friend as well. That's why Sieg reached for his gun initially.
@@xwarrior760 Always believed that Oberstein was expecting this to happen sooner or later (since the rule didn't made sense) so he could get rid of Kircheis and be able to influence Reinhard without interference.
@@John6700mc yes I would tend to think Oberstein did not want Kircheis interfering with what he envisioned the future to be for Reinhard nor prevent Reinahrd from making cold logical war decisions that Kircheis was unwilling to accept due to his own morals, and i don't think it's a coincidence the same moment he has his gun taken this assassination attempt happens. but how would Oberstein know Reinhard would not be killed? fucking bitchass Ansbach has a clear shot at Reinhard and would have succeeded in murdering him had Kircheis not lifted his arm. the fact Oberstein, in the OVA he jumps infront of Reinhard and i guess he doesn't do that here in the remake people are saying, doesn't really have a relevance but i think the idea of him jumping infront of the blast means he was ready to die for Reinhard and did not setup Kircheis. i don't know i probably have to rewatch everything
@@John6700mc Honestly I thought the reason why Oberstein did this was because he feared Kircheis position in the Empire, if anything ever happened to Reinhardt before he got a woman, Kircheis would be the successor for the empire by virtue of being Annerose´s lover, Oberstein probably didnt wanted to face the risk that Kircheis could jeopardize his machinations, but he also didnt wanted him Dead, just weakened in power before the rest of the court and yes vulnerable just like the other admirals if a assassination attempt was made.
Ugh. The potent elitism radiating from the LotGH community is higher than Chernobyl, holy shit. Might as well just watch the entire series without looking at the comments section. It's just all about boomers and young adults having a war like Yang Wen-Li and Reinhard does.
Everytime there's DNT clip, there will be always that one guy that say it trash, like always, not once i didn't see such a comment from DNT clip. Its a bit disappointing because i love DNT while i dont like the original because its just ugly overall, my eyes just cant handle old style animation,
I came here after the person who was transporting the earth... protesters... (i don't remember what they're called) said "people like that don't live for long" :( my fav person always dies 😔💔
original so much better, showing you so many more emotions Reinhard goes through in short period of time. his extreme sadness, childlike ignorance of the reality of the situation, the anger in his face when he turns toward Mittermeyer
@@realityisascam I like the original in how it portrays Oberstein after the assassination, you can tell he´s not finding fun having to act as Reinhardt´s "2nd hand goods pal", one bit, he also admits Kircheis death unbalances Reinhardt as both him and Kircheis acted as basically a devil and a angel speaking on each of Reinhardt´s ears throughout the series.
Its a mixture of a much better performance, much better direction and also the music perfectly mixing with the scene. The original used visuals as well to amplify the scene. This does not, simply showing it with no director talent at all. Plus, why does Reinhardt and Kircheis sound like gay lovers in a boys love vn here?
@@fearedjames Nah this is more faithful to the novel. Reinhard's VA also did a good job here. And if you think they sound gay then you probably watch too much BL. The only time they look gay is when Reinhard touches Kircheis' hair in his office. Just watch the comparison between the original and the remake, they're not that different.
@@RakaZet The OVA version of this scene has drastically better direction, and much better voice acting. And who cares if its faithful to some novel. The original adaptions better, even if it changed shit. All good adaptions make changes. The original also doesn't sound like a BL VN, even if Kircheis always sounded a bit gay.
@@fearedjames And do you say this knowing what they changed from the novel? You can't just say the original changes are better than the novels' without you knowing what those changes are. Also what sounds gay from this? Reinhard's basically shitting himself which is expected.
It's really upsetting that he was killed off in the second season. Would've been better if they kept him alive for two more seasons, at least and then kill him off.
Completely soulless without the music which was playing in the original scene. This entire attempt at an adaptation is to the novels and OVA as Disney Star Wars is to Lucas' films and the original Expanded Universe. Recycled trash made by people who failed to understand what made the source material timeless.
If only Kircheis was here...
With his laspistol.
Seharusnya dia gak mati 😭😭😭
@@naurasyakila1079 btw nonton lanjutan yang season 2 dmn si ak dah nonton season 1 tp cari lanjutannya gk ada
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I'm so glad this wasn't spoiled for me, this is when you realize you are watching a masterpiece!
Please don't ever search LOGH deaths
@@RakaZet I mean it's really hard to miss nowadays, at this point I just assume everyone dies lol
@@Alstruction lullllll
Any one knows when the next season is coming
@@musaa1734 Well, now is streaming the nhk reboradcast, after that lets hope some announce, but with this whole thing of covid-19 its uncertain
The way he said “Yada”
Actually choked me the fuck up in my first time viewing. Usually grieving in anime is hella cheesy but goddamn the VA made me believe he just had his friend ripped straight from him.
Just saw this episode, I didnt see this coming... He was my favorite character dang
Try not to get spoiled about the show.
Having seen the old series, I knew it was coming but it didn't make it any easier to watch all over.
@@LousShar Not one of the three video versions is easy to watch. Original, Dvd remaster, or New Thesis.
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Me too omfg
The voice acting is excellent here. You can feel the pain in his voice.
Eh, I felt the original has better voice acting, and the more subtle performance worked better.
Kirchies 😭
My heart hurts me when I watch or remember your death scene
😣
Me too😭
@@Fei_Dhilal_AsSeerah Are you from the Middle East? Awesome to know LOGH fans are everywhere.
@@RakaZet Yes, I am from KSA😊
@@Fei_Dhilal_AsSeerah Awesome, Peace bro.
what really hurts is how he talks to kircheis even though he's gone
Original ova veteran here, I have to say the way they portrayed kircheis's death made me cry even though I haven't watched the remake
In the 1990s OVA, the assassin got the weapon out of the guy's corpse, and Oberstein actually threw himself in front on Reinhard as a shield.
Why the hell did they change part with weapon in corpse!? It made sense, becuae they would see any weapon in coffin, but not the actall body. In DNT he puts full sized rocket launcher in coffin, and nobody notices it.
The part where Oberstein made himself as a shield in the OVA was not in actual novel where as here in the DNT version is what actually happened in the novel and even the dialogues are the exact same ones you’ll read in there. So that means the OVA is the one who has changes rather than the DNT ver in terms of following the actual source material. That’s why we need to stop regarding the DNT as a ‘remake’ from the OVA, but as another adaptation of the novel.
@@angeldiamse Yes. The OVA makes it less ambiguous that Oberstein had nothing to do with the assassination, whereas this version allows some readers to assume he may have staged it.
i think they still did it in this show, since ansbach told some soldiers to bring braunschweig's dead body into the infirmary to put the weapon inside him, but it was less obvious here
it adaptation of the novel , not remake from OVA dude.
I got shot in the feels today .
I prefer the ova scene for the animation and display for this scene, but the voice acting in the remake really portrays reinhard’s pain better. Both are beautiful, but the ova still remains my favorite
Damn it hurts a lot I cried to this! Why do I feel like absorbing all Reinhard's pain! Kirrcheiss...
I seen some of it when I was going through youtube I found this in my recommended and it had me crying
ここが一番年相応なんだよな...
The moment Siegfried Kircheis died, I no longer have the heart to watch the anime anymore💔
The last epsiode of the new season was "really FEELS!!! 😭👌
KIRCHEIS!!! 😭😭😭
このシーンだけは新旧かわらず泣く。新ラインハルトの弱々しい演技も素晴らしい😢😢
his death hurt Kircheis and kill Annerose soul
@@Ginny.galaxy
Thanks😢😢
This goes to show, how loyal Kircheis was, 96% of the cast if put in Kircheis shoes, would likely let Reinhardt die or not react in time to save him, Kircheis is one of the few who would risk his life like this for no reward other than saving his childhood friend while losing the chance to build a family with his lover.
Mamoru Miyano showing us once again what a badass voice actor he is.
I cried... based on the voice acting alone. Like what...
errthing bout this scene just hurt me bro, the foreshadowing, the realistic voice acting, actually mournful, it just makes it seem like someone actually died for dis scene bruh
so heartbreaking!!!! Best Voice Action! Thx Mamoru Miyano for this great work!!! Knows someone the OST of this scene?
there goes the only man who can stalemate yang wenli...if only he was here...
Reinhart get the Throne but it cost him EVERYTHING (His Sister and Only Friend)
I always found it hard to believe that even the advancement of the technology to the point that warp and space travel became possible, humans life are so fragile.
The art of killing always walked side by side with the art of healing.
We can cure people of cancer, malaria, and other diseases that didn't have a cure for millenia. But we can also erase the whole planet just with some nuclear bombs...
I really like the voice acting and music they choosed for this, It really gives me chills, I think is an improvement over the original, altough I like both. That being said it the weapon part in the new version takes too long is weird how everyone doesn´t take inmediate action.
”銀河声優伝説” か。
なるほど、やはりその通りのようだ。
Siegried Kircheis: The Original Kamina.
To this day i still dont understand how the guards allowed Ansbach to get in with that laser ring ? I thought weapons weren't allowed, or did no one know about rings that shoot lasers ? Is that a secret weapon only known to Ansbach ?
I think the weapon was hidden in the corpse or something...I guess Reinhard was too arrogant to have it properly searched. That is kinda one of his defining character traits. He nearly dies several times due to his arrogance.
The guards might have overlooked it as guards may be prone to do in real life
I don't really think everyone expected the ring to be laser ring
Think about it, a dude comes to a fallout new vegas casino with a cane, are you going to assume it´s a cane sword and inspect the canes of every man who comes into the casino?? This situation is kinda similar, Reinhardt and pals had plenty of deserters from the enemy faction joining in, after the first dozens to hundreds and then thousands of deserters they were bound to let their guards down once the enemy leader went down.
It´s like assuming a Dictator will always have their guards up and inspect everything in their lives to prevent assassinations, that may work or not, even if the dictator is on high guard it doesnt mean the people working under him/her will do the same, mistakes are bound to happen.
Fantastic acting Mamo!
In a lot of people why Kircheis need to die.... It was sading me when I was remembering his die moment.... I was crying when I watch the episode 😭😭😭
He kinda didnt need to die, but he put himself in that possibility by shielding reinhardt here.
Good thing I waited 4 months to watch this to get rid of the spoilers so sad that Kirchies had to die :(
I thought they were gonna rule the Universe together.
I like how they all took a knee
I still dont know why Kircheis unable to borrow his gun
Haven't watched the new one but in the OVA as well as the novel, admirals cannot bear arms when entering Reinhard's place. Kircheis used to be exempt from this rule but Oberstein criticized Reinhard for favoritism and then he applied the same rule for his friend as well. That's why Sieg reached for his gun initially.
@@xwarrior760 Always believed that Oberstein was expecting this to happen sooner or later (since the rule didn't made sense) so he could get rid of Kircheis and be able to influence Reinhard without interference.
@@John6700mc yes I would tend to think Oberstein did not want Kircheis interfering with what he envisioned the future to be for Reinhard nor prevent Reinahrd from making cold logical war decisions that Kircheis was unwilling to accept due to his own morals, and i don't think it's a coincidence the same moment he has his gun taken this assassination attempt happens. but how would Oberstein know Reinhard would not be killed? fucking bitchass Ansbach has a clear shot at Reinhard and would have succeeded in murdering him had Kircheis not lifted his arm. the fact Oberstein, in the OVA he jumps infront of Reinhard and i guess he doesn't do that here in the remake people are saying, doesn't really have a relevance but i think the idea of him jumping infront of the blast means he was ready to die for Reinhard and did not setup Kircheis. i don't know i probably have to rewatch everything
@@John6700mc Honestly I thought the reason why Oberstein did this was because he feared Kircheis position in the Empire, if anything ever happened to Reinhardt before he got a woman, Kircheis would be the successor for the empire by virtue of being Annerose´s lover, Oberstein probably didnt wanted to face the risk that Kircheis could jeopardize his machinations, but he also didnt wanted him Dead, just weakened in power before the rest of the court and yes vulnerable just like the other admirals if a assassination attempt was made.
Old versiyonu and New versiyon very sad
No fancy titles or the prestige in the world really could match the loyalty of Reinhard's red-haired friend.
We salute thee, Siegfried Kircheis
where i can watch logh die neue these-seiran ?
i have watch season 1 and want to watch the sequel but i cabt find it
Ugh. The potent elitism radiating from the LotGH community is higher than Chernobyl, holy shit. Might as well just watch the entire series without looking at the comments section.
It's just all about boomers and young adults having a war like Yang Wen-Li and Reinhard does.
I am young adult and I love original more lol
Wise decision
There’s honestly merit on both old and new, I don’t understand why they’re bitching about the new one like some babies.
@@billsykes2977 I'm old and I like the new adaptation
Everytime there's DNT clip, there will be always that one guy that say it trash, like always, not once i didn't see such a comment from DNT clip. Its a bit disappointing because i love DNT while i dont like the original because its just ugly overall, my eyes just cant handle old style animation,
I came here after the person who was transporting the earth... protesters... (i don't remember what they're called) said "people like that don't live for long" :( my fav person always dies 😔💔
ジークフリート亡くなられたのは悲しすぎる………
DNTで帝国軍の人たちが基本的に無表情だったのは、このシーンを盛り上げるためだったのかも…
Tragic..
with red hair, red ship, red flags were all around kircheis. ;__;
haven't watched seiran eps so kinda got spoiled but not surprised at all ;__;
original so much better, showing you so many more emotions Reinhard goes through in short period of time. his extreme sadness, childlike ignorance of the reality of the situation, the anger in his face when he turns toward Mittermeyer
No, the remake is WAY better, conveying the emotions flawlessly.
the original is more subtle, but for anime watchers this version as more anime-y performance. I prefer reinhard's character in the ova.
@@realityisascam I like the original in how it portrays Oberstein after the assassination, you can tell he´s not finding fun having to act as Reinhardt´s "2nd hand goods pal", one bit, he also admits Kircheis death unbalances Reinhardt as both him and Kircheis acted as basically a devil and a angel speaking on each of Reinhardt´s ears throughout the series.
woooo!!
goddamnit
*ich hatt einen kameraden intensifies*
몇기 몇화인가요?
I don't want to be that guy but the original scene made me depressed as hell whereas I felt nothing from this.
then you are that guy
Its a mixture of a much better performance, much better direction and also the music perfectly mixing with the scene.
The original used visuals as well to amplify the scene. This does not, simply showing it with no director talent at all.
Plus, why does Reinhardt and Kircheis sound like gay lovers in a boys love vn here?
@@fearedjames Nah this is more faithful to the novel. Reinhard's VA also did a good job here. And if you think they sound gay then you probably watch too much BL. The only time they look gay is when Reinhard touches Kircheis' hair in his office. Just watch the comparison between the original and the remake, they're not that different.
@@RakaZet The OVA version of this scene has drastically better direction, and much better voice acting.
And who cares if its faithful to some novel. The original adaptions better, even if it changed shit. All good adaptions make changes.
The original also doesn't sound like a BL VN, even if Kircheis always sounded a bit gay.
@@fearedjames And do you say this knowing what they changed from the novel? You can't just say the original changes are better than the novels' without you knowing what those changes are. Also what sounds gay from this? Reinhard's basically shitting himself which is expected.
😭
I just spoiled my self Which episode is this?
Seiran episode 3
It's really upsetting that he was killed off in the second season. Would've been better if they kept him alive for two more seasons, at least and then kill him off.
Product IG remake LoGH and rush so fast, but can't stop his death because without this LoGH can't be a best anime ever make
The death of Kircheis is the KEY of everything.
Completely soulless without the music which was playing in the original scene. This entire attempt at an adaptation is to the novels and OVA as Disney Star Wars is to Lucas' films and the original Expanded Universe. Recycled trash made by people who failed to understand what made the source material timeless.
Stay mad brother.
@@tryomama Correct. If it sucks, the deserved response is to be mad.
@@theb3rn7 ahahaha. Go on.
Stay mad brother,
OVA 버전이 갑이다
It's overacted compared to the original.
Die Neue These is garbage. 1988 LOGH #1
You're wrong.
@@EternityWish In some ways not, in others yes.
Feels like watching some gay stuff lol
There is a reason why fujoshi love this series.
@@GaoDaHoi Do they?
@@xwarrior760
The shipping war in this series is kinda huge.
Gay stuff? Reinhard regarded Kircheis as his own brother,his love for Kircheis is the same or second only to his own sister.
@@jekesan4221no he loved kirches he was even jealous of the fact he was attracted to his sister