SSR vs APOLLO which pit bike is better ( Best budget pit bike )
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Apollo rfz vs ssr 125 the pit bike video everyone has been waiting for and which one is better we hit the trails to give a epic ride and show everyone what these Chinese dirt bikes can do I hope everyone likes this video and gives it two thumbs up
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We would like to say both pit bikes are great and if you get either one you will have a great time riding and an amazing experience!
I just bought a SSR 125 for my son and I to just whip around and have a little fun, started looking on UA-cam for reviews, things about the bike and bumped into y’all vids and I love them all 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 awesome vids fun and informative and I learn a lot so thanks guys I am subscribed now and I’m looking forward to future videos
I’ve owned 3 ssr and 1 Apollo rfz the Apollo is more comfortable and balanced especially for bigger riders (I’m 6,3 260lbs) but the ssr is faster for some reason idk why but even my first ssr with bad rings burning oil like a 2 stroke was faster then the rfz
Also anyone who is scared of buying these Chinese bikes because of bad reviews doesn’t need to worry, they are very reliable and cheap to repair I beat the crap out of these bikes and have let several people learn manual on them and they never break just regular maintenance and loctite on bolts my first ssr was a 110 that sat under a tree for 4 years with no carb on it. It was seized and cylinder was full of pinestraw rust and mud dauber nest and after freeing it up with vinegar and marvel mystery oil even that clapped out bike ran great
My son is on his 4th chinese bike now and they have been great. Just picked up the SSR SR189, great bikes for the money.
@@seanwan30 guess it’s a habit but idk imma keep saying it
What size were they ur pretty heavy bro
Awesome upload...very nicely done! I just bought a used SSR125...didn't know until I got it home how hard it had been treated by the previous owner. It's a 2021 model but the back wheel was basically destroyed...bent axle bolt etc. Got a new wheel ordered. I'm so ready to get this bike back out to ride...so much fun :) Keep the uploads coming!
Thank you I hope you get your bike back together soon so you can go out and enjoy it that sounds like a prime example of what I was saying in the video where people don’t do the maintenance and tighten everything down. A bent axle bolt sounds like it was loose and that’s how it got bent make sure you lock tight everything you get access to. Also it helps to use a paint to mark the bolts for visual to see if any come loose after every other ride
@@throttlefamily4655 Thanks for the help/info!
Same but I got mines for $500 so I couldn’t complain and only thing actually wrong with mine was it was dropped a bunch from people trying to wheelies I got a new body and seat put on 2 days ago I’m waiting for my grips and a few other little things but it’s runs and rides fantastic especially for only costing me $700 in total $500 for the bike and about $200 worth of parts
Yet another reason ive been thinking Thumpstar, Hubs, spokes and wheels.
Again, anyone know anything about Thumpstar? Scary when you’re ready to drop over 2 grand and there’s nothing née, no responses on their website or especially their ghost town Facebook page.
I’m thinking also about buying the 140 piranha, but the price is even more, and I’m back to small wheels.
Man this channel is way better than bikes and bears channel! 👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👍👍👍
Thank you that means a lot 👍
Location? Beautiful country.
I think this video covers 90% of what most buyers want to know.
Very well done.
Northern California foothills
@@Weather_Nerd We live in Shasta Lake City... You must not be too far from us by the looks of everything..
Super good info thanks y’all! Love from Sacramento💪
Thank you
I got an Apolo ADR-125 (basically the venom motorsports version of the rfz-125 and they branded it as a "venom Thunder") It's not a bad bike. More value per $ than the Japanese or North American bikes imo. I think for the riding I do the Apolo is the better choice because it's higher off the ground and I go through a lot of water and muck on the abandoned roads I ride.
Exactly what i was waiting for yess!!
Right on we worked super hard on this video!
I have an ssr125 with no gears and I just wheelies it about 30 minutes ago, the chain has fallen off twice in the middle of riding, one VERY big pro is the tank will last for like two full days of riding.
ssr's handling is better because its smaller (lower center of gravity) and is better for shorter drivers.
I put an Apollo 125 into my sons SSR110. Now, his bike seems noticeably more powerfull than his brothers SSR 125. So glad we ditched the KTMs. These little china bikes have been 10 times more faithful.
I can definitely agree to that my friend bought his son a 2004 ktm and finding parts for it is a pain. I also love the fact that you can buy the yx 140 motor for around $350 to $400 and it’s bolts up the 125s are very reliable I have beat mine and it still keeps running
Great comparo👍
Can you guys do more 14/17” bigger wheel comparisons in future. I have had my Coolster M-125 (14/17” Big wheel) for over 2yrs now with no issues other than the shitty 420 chain that has been upgraded for a heav duty RK 420. Carb and engine “powa” and reliability have been great.
Good morning all! Seems like the ssr has more gitty up than the apollo from my perspective, sounds like the apollo needs a better carb or something? SSR wins in a competition for performance but the bigger tires on the Apollo make it easier to ride, Ive experienced some sketchy situations due to the small wheels but never the less fun as heck. Great videos guys!!
Ps love the hat bro! 🇺🇸
Thank you and both bikes have the same carburetor on them the Apollo just has a hard time carrying a heavy rider another thing is that the exhaust on the Apollo is so loud it kinda blows out the mic 🎤 I was using gives it a drone sound and thanks I really like the hat as well I got it at a gas station and if you look closely it has small fish shapes in the American flag 🇺🇸
I know this video is old but the apollo needs the carb jetted bad thats why it has no power… u can hear it breaking up
@@traviskridler8868 the Apollo is a lot louder so what you were hearing is my microphone breaking up
I just got an ssr 125 yesterday it’s great
That’s awesome congratulations!
Nice video bro I’m trying to grind the pitty vids ❤️
Thank you and keep at it 👍
Cool video.
My ‘personal’ problem is I really want a 14/17” wheel pit bike. Tracks are fine with small wheels, but actual trail riding through the woods swallows up those little 12/14” tires.
Is Thumpstar still in business?
Did you guys ever ride one of them?
I have an XPro with 14/17s. Same bike from probably the same mfg in China. About $780 on Amazon. Will need the carb swap just like these bikes.
I just bought the SSR 140 tr bw. It has 17 front and 14 back with extra suspension. I’m 5’11 185lbs and it’s amazing. Came with Japan Mikuni carb. $1750 otd
@@robertf7056 fwiw, my carb is clearly labeled Mikuni Japan, but it's also clearly not a Mikuni. It does run fine though. The aftermarket one I got was true Mikuni height and didn't fit under tank. As long as yours is fun it doesn't matter where the parts come from anyway. Ride safe!
14/17" wheels fit on the base SSR 125 just fine. $200 upgrade
I was just a kid watching videos on UA-cam and having dream to owned the SSR 150
So if you had to purchase one right now what would be the best pitbikes of this family rather the ssr 125 or apollo x18 or x19 what would it be?
the rfz needs A BETTER carb i can hear it
To be fair, the Apollo sounds like it’s bogging or has some form of carb issue. If you haven’t already I’d jet it or upgrade the carb.
I have a number of these bikes, including a 2016 Apollo rfz 125. I'm surprised you didn't touch on the fact that these bikes very likely share the same transmission gearing. Likely the only difference is the wheel size, which I bet shares the same sprockets. So- the final drive ratio is determined by the rear wheel size. My Apollo has such a short first gear, it is almost useless. It is a 14/17 bike. I also have a bike with 12/12 rims and it also has a 125 but milled head, z40 cam. I don't notice a big difference in power despite the tire size difference. ( it's 125 is a generic amazon unit). Both bikes top out about 50. I'd be curious to know what gearing differences between the ssr and Apollo are, if any.
Hey throttle family got a question is it better to start on the ssr 125cc or the honda crf125f
@@user-yd2mv8mi8u if you have the money you can never go wrong with the crf125f but if you are going to be upgrading bikes soon after the ssr125 is a great starting platform to save money for the next bike
I will chose apollo
I just got a an Apollo RFZ 125 racing edition for my first bike
We were just up in Tahoe last month, found the place you look like your at Powerline off pioneer trail we loved it. My 2 Apollo 125's did great althoght mine are full automatics, would have been nice to have at least semi autos for hills. We also took my Kandi 200 Go kart, what a great place and much bigger than the Sandpit. Have you tried Genoe Peak?
Change the sprockets and the carb makes a huge difference with these Chinese bikes.
Nice video!! Really appreciate it. Do you not use the nibbi anymore?
I have the nibbi on my other bike but I do like the mikuni more still a lot easier to use and your don’t have to mess with the jetting as much
That hill climb is definitely way steeper than it looks on camera lol think I walked up it last I was out that way, hot day sun beating down yep I need a dirtbike 😅
What kind of bike was the Apollo
Great comparison video!! You say you can get the ssr 125 for about 1000 but I can’t seem to find it for that price.? Any suggestions where to get it for that price? Thanks in advance
The Apollo is more better compared to the ssr but all down to personal preferences the Apollo will be more suitable for taller riders and will also be abit stronger suspension is decent but better to upgrade the ssr is more for people that’s just starting off to confidence and feeling off riding/ but yet again a pit bike is better when they are set up right and have been modified to wake them up a bit
Definitely both bikes for this test had the mikuni carbs and the same air pressure in the tires both bikes are great and we love them both!
@@throttlefamily4655 but one major thing you're forgetting is that you did not have the Apollo running well. You two like the circus bike but with bigger Wheels when both have great running engines - there's only one choice. This opinion came from Malcolm Smith
‘More better’
You must live in my neck of the woods...
My friend bought the ssr and I bought a honda crf250f their both good bikes but ima be honest with you my friends ssr has a bent rim the chain is really loose and it doesn't stay on it keeps turning off and we got to put air in his tires everytime you ride only problem my honda has is I can only start it in neutral.
If your a DIY type person get the ssr because evertime you ride it your going to want to fix something
How much more did your Honda cost?
7:24 holy crap that thing idles so good, does it have the mikuni vm22 on it?
It has the knock off mikuni from Amazon we have links to them in our prior videos in the description but for this video both bikes had the same carburetor
Great video. Thank you
If I don't want to watch the whole vid- Wich is better?
I would want to see you guys put pro circuit exhaust on the srr 125 and pro circuit does make exhaust for the srr 125 I just don't know where to get them
Ok I will look into it I love pro circuit exhausts
Should I buy a 125 motoworks pit bike from ebay
Idk much about them so I could not give you a good recommendation on if you should or should not buy one
@@throttlefamily4655 you should buy one and test them they are $850 brand new
What fuel does the Apollo take? Would 91 be good enough?
Yes 91 is what we run
Which one has more problems or is better quality
The ssr is better quality
Hey bro I like the Chinese bikes
Those bikes still holding up nokta?
Thinking of getting one
Yes both bikes still run I just sold the ssr with almost 200 hours and the only thing I did was basic maintenance
I’m in your area. We should ride sometime!
I’m down message me on Instagram @throttle_family
That Apollo got up the hill a lil to easy
Those bigger tires definitely help if it had a 140cc piranha or the 190 Daytona this bike would be awesome!!!
Thinking of getting a pit I’m like 6,2 would you recommend big or small wheel it’s first bike
I would go with the the small wheel I like it more I’m also 6,2 the ssr is a great starter bike but definitely has enough power that you won’t get bored of it.
NO, if the Apollo was running correctly they would never have complained because a bigger wheeled bike performs so much better on whoops and everything else, those bikes are for a circus clowns. This advice came from Malcolm Smith.
I have a question so the manual says the carbs 22mm and the link goes to a 26mm carb, what's the difference? Should I look for an aftermarket 22mm carb or is the 26mm better?
Well the 26 flows more air and fuel but I’m sure you could get the same performance out of either or if your jetting is correct
Measure! Most vm26 are actually 22 mm venturi diameter. 22mm is what these bikes like unless you have extensively modified them. A 22 mm will provide more velocity in the intake charge, and will have snappy throttle response, versus a bigger carb which may flow more at a lower velocity and feel soggy. You won't see any meaningful gains because it runs so poorly from idle to 3/4 throttle with a too big carb. Even a true 24mm carb won't gain you much if any top speed. More effort to get the carb jetted is time well spent. My 2016 Apolla had the carb riveted shut. That was the first thing I replaced.
Can you put a bigger sprocket on the apollo?
Y'all should try the syx 125
Hi, so I have an SSR 125 bike to and for some reason every time I put the full quart of oil into my bike it always smokes out of my air filter and my exhaust, and the oil leaks out of my carburetor for some reason, do you think you could help me out?
Yes message me on Instagram @ throttle_family
It's because you over filled the crankcase. That engine only holds 700ml . Wich is apparently a little more than 3/4 of a of oil. That should leave roughly 200ml left .
@@robertdeneen3067 so is that .6 quarts?
@@mattoneill7544 yes basically just over 3/4s of a one quart of oil
You guys still have your rfz? If so need a big favor lol
Does the SSR need any mixing oil and also what furl
Fuel
They take regular gas no mixing needed I usually use 91
Ssr vs thumpstar
I would love to see this.
I can get a new 140 BW Thumpstar an hour down the road for $2199.00 but if the lack of information on these bikes don’t scare you, my local dealer will !!!
@@mikem9953 I have a ssr140bw but a few months ago I bought a new 2023 yz250x but I gotta say the ssr has never broke I was worried it would fall apart but it’s held up but now it just sits since a have a new Yamaha
Down shift on the hills it will save the bikes life longer , make u go faster
I was rev limiter the whole time my mic picks it up like a droning noise
Ya, he definitely had the Apollo wrung out (like a dish rag!)
Looks like Dutch flats California
Is the pitster pro 125 any good? Costs more than Ssr…
The pitster pros are definitely top of the line but also more than double the cost
Im 5,1 and want a dirt bike, will this seem to small to me
I don’t think so I am 6,2 200lbs and I have more fun on these than I do my big bikes
I’m 6,3 260 pounds so way oversized for the bike and it still isn’t that bad only thing regardless of how tall you are the seat has like almost no padding so your ass will hurt after 40 mins of trail riding but should be perfect size for you
@@evanknight3629 my ass hurts after 5 mins haha
Does the light work
Soon I'm getting an Apollo 140
The 2021 apollo rfz z40 max is the one you want if you can find it new online, go for it you won’t regret it, it comes with all the good upgrades from factory.
Any recommendations on exhaust system upgrades??? Was thinking about a pro circuit t4 but just worried finding one that fits
Honestly these bikes come with extremely good flowing exhaust systems the only real difference you may notice is sound
I weigh 200 pounds what size bike is good for me not too big
I’m 210 I love the ssr
the 125 ??? No frikin way
Does it feel weighed down?
Good comparison
Thank you
It was a horrible comparison because the Apollo isn't running well. Malcolm Smith a famous motocross racer always said that bigger wheels are better when it comes to these small bikes. They like the circus bike because it runs great, they may have the same carburetor but they did not tune the Apollo correctly.
This video is backwards because engineers give these bikes bigger Wheels even with the same engines so you can perform better over more demanding obstacles. They never intended that a test would be done with an unturned crap engine. I can't wait to see them perform at the circus
Do you still have the nibbi on the ssr?
I still have it on my other ssr but I still like the mikuni a little bit more
The venturie I's a larger opening allowing more air flow on nibbi. If you had full out built race motor it would work alot better, the mikuni has a smaller venturie. Which is why it performs better out of the box. Atleast that's what I've gathered from my research, I almost bought one for my gokart. Running a tillotson 212 stage 2. If you can figure out how to lesson the venturie on the nibbie it may perform better
@@harleyj3938 you are exactly right if you look at the way the machining is on the nibbi it is absolutely amazing every part on them looks amazing I still like it but I feel it would work a lot better on the 140s and up
Change the carburetor
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You don't have the Apollo running right, and of course any bike with the same good running engine with bigger wheels will do better on whoops and everything else except for a circus performance.
They both have the same carburetors they both run great the exhaust tone on the apollo blows out the mic with the drone. The bigger wheels have more rotating mass and that takes away from some of the power as well as it is a heavier bike. I’m also a 200lb rider. Both motors are almost identical. As being said with those factors the ssr being being lighter with smaller wheels will give it more transferred power to the ground to get moving.
Ssr takes the W
Y’all gotta go fast y’all makin me wanna refund my order
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Heck yea man I hope you like this video I put a lot of effort into it
My apolo is terrible never works
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120 pounds….. try again. If you’re going to give accurate reviews, then we need accurate reviews.
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