Should the Blues leave Turbo and Cleary OUT for the decider? | Wide World of Sports
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No reason whatsoever to change a winning team.
“His teams coming last” That is why you are no longer Blues coach. Picking teams form rather than players in form at struggling clubs.
I think it’s every reason to charge the team turning up to Qld with a whole new aspect of the unpredictable…
Then why was Freddies team from last year completely changed.
If it aint broke dont fix it.
Cleary is no doubt the best halfback in the NRL but his been out for 3 months, I say keep the exact line up we had for game 2. Next year put Moses and Cleary in the halves together.
Don't need Cleary. Moses & Luai did a great job on Wednesday night. I'd rather even Moses & Cody Walker. Cleary can stick to playing for Panfers.
Moses Controlled Qld Like Clearly Couldn't 😂
@@BigMan.270 Cleary is the best half in the game, there is no denying it. And Cody walker? LOL. I think having Latrell and Edwards in the team really improved the team too. But don't forget we still lost the 2nd half.
@@Tre_Vor194 Cleary is overrated. He only looks good when playing for Panfers. It's a combination of the structured play of Panfers & the team getting leg ups from refereeing. In particular, the 10m they set for Panfers to what gets officiated to their opposition. And enables Cleary to look better than what he actually is. In origin, he doesn't get that latitude. Cody played well with Moses in the 3rd game last year.
@@BigMan.270 luai is better than cody, better attacker
Love Cleary but Moses played better than Cleary has ever played in an Origin game 😂
100%. Cleary is now Moses back up
Cleary's kicking game at origin level hasn't cut the mustard and he's been schooled by DCE and Hunt too often, overrated. Moses should've been n# 1 choice a couple years back.
Nonsense. 2022 game II. Cleary kicks 100%, sets up two tries, scores two tries all by himself. Final score NSW 44 QLD 12.
Cleary and Moses are both very good players. A halves pairing with both of them would have NSW at its absolute strongest. But not this year with Cleary coming off injury etc.
Origin 2021 Game 1 Blues won 50-6 in Townsville, Game 2 Blues won 26-0 in Suncorp to close the series, origin record margin win. 2022 Game 2 Nathan Man of the Match in another blowout win. All throse Games Nathan was the 7, arguably the most important position in the game. But when the Blues win it’s because of the people around Nathan, but if they lose blame it all on Nathan, huh? 3 series wins, 3 series loss - 50% in Origin at the age of 25, but yea. He’s not made for Origin, I guess. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@janssenenriq dude that back line the Blues had in a lot of those 3 series wins, all peak form Tedesco, Turbo and Mitchell would win you any contest and Qld had weaker options in that period too. Cleary folds in the real tight matches.
I'm so glad Fitler isn't coaching. Look what moses did with a team that matched his skill. Calling into account his clubs performance is crazy especially when moses is the one keeping parra in those games. Starting to see the decision making that led to his failures as a coach..
Deadset. Moses was the only reason that the Eels were ever in that game, and apparently the fact that he can’t drag that team of losers kicking and screaming to victory despite consistently performing better than Cleary at Origin is reason to drop him
Its a no-brainer, keep the same Blues team from Game 2.
Normally yes, but ill be more than happy to change for these two.
Definitely no changes. Turbo is incredible but theres no way you're taking out anyone out of Lattrell or Stephen Crighton. And bringing back Cleary so quick is very risky, Im sure Moses will do fine
well turbo would last 2 min and tear something on his body so maybe pass on that one
Why is this even a discussion ? No way.
they dont really have much to talk about
leave them out
If teams were picked on form, Matt Burton and Cleary would be the halves, however Moses and Luai were amazing in game 2, they should play in game 3.
What form Cleary has? His been out over a month
You aren't watching all the games then mate.Luai is playing better than almost every half in the comp including Burton.
@@damonmlinaric9254 Luai is blessed with a super talented premiership team. On the other hand, Burton is carrying a bulldogs team that was predicted to finish last. This is why his the form playmaker in the NRL and why the bulldogs are 5th.
@@jd4062lol look at what happened in game 2. Luai carved up. Burton sucks at origin level
@@harryaxe4634Cleary has played like 4 games this season 😂 what form you on about
Bring back Sualli and have Luai + Liam Martin carry him on their shoulders onto Suncorp at the beginning of the game.
He was in the sheds with them but suspended
I don't think either player is gonna be fit in time. I think Cleary's coming back from injury just a little late for selection anyway.
No way Moses played well
😂he got man of the match and guaranteed Hynes will never get a start again in origin.What game did you watch 😂
@@OZIPUG1970 He means no way moses gets dropped he played well
@@_ghostx4727
This is why Grammar is important, because if he put a comma after the word ‘way’, it means something totally different to how it reads as it is.
He means “no way, Moses played well”
I would have Burton in the 17, he kicked a field goal from almost half way this weekend also missed two of course, but get him some practice at field goal in the next couple of weeks in a tied game being able to kick from 50m out rather than 30m like DCE is a huge bonus.
i know, people saying it took him three attempts? but did they see how far those attempts were? he has a good boot on him thats for sure
@@clockworkman8210he has a cannon with no aim. His goal kicking sucks all he does is boot the ball. Fmd
@@doingadlay that statement may have been true last year but this year he has consistently kicked accurately to corners and those first 2 field goal attempts were from 50+m and only just missed. I wouldn't pick him as a goal kicker though.
@@rhys6165 I just don't think he belongs in origin this year.
Trell and Moses can kick field goals Trell can boot it from 50 no problem dont need burton
The way Mosses and Laui played why would you change it and im a panthers fan but Cleary goes to sleep in the big moments a lot last years grand final for example he was no where to be seen all game Steven crighton was the one that turned it around like he had done the previous 2 years by that try he scored beating 3 defenders and kicking us 2 back to back sets of 6 thats when the game started changing but everyone gave cleary the credit for it he didnt really start doing anything until Jack cogger got on the field and showed him what he needed to be done and cleary even said it himself in the interview at the end of the game and im not saying he is a bad player either you gotta be good to be at that level but i just think Mosses is the better and more experienced halfback
Cleary scored the winning try which was a solo effort, how did he go missing? Also he has more big game experience then Moses, I’d keep Moses this year and let them shoot it out next year for no.7 the rivalry will be good for them and get them both playing good
The game started changing when Cleary set up the try for Leota
@@Adl-pk4hg Better to have them both in the team if fit. Moses 6, Cleary 7
Lol keep luai and Moses bro far out
I’m with Joey
Totally agree with Joey…but,,
I think Joey is slowly losing the plot, yes Cleary would be underdone and all players from game 2 deserve to p,ay in game 3 but Joey was adamant that Moses be selected in game one even though he was returning from injury and would have been under done..🤷♂️🤦♂️
I suggest put Clearly in for 7, partner with Moses no. 6 form the Best combination. As for Luai he didn't played well in game 1 and 2, As play maker he didn't creation of space for his backs and forwards to attach. He should be drop and make way for Clearly..
They did NOT get the job done in the second half.....needs to be a comment about that.
the ref.. how's that comment?
Cleary is listed for a return round 20 so he wont be playing, Turbo round 18 return but who do you drop?
Four in a row.
Better question is If Moses gets injured before game 3, do you choose Nicho or Nathan?
THE BEST PAIRING FOR NSW 2025 ONWARDS IS MOSES AT 5/8 AND CLEARY AT HALFBACK.
LUAI IS TAKING A PIGGYBACK RIDE AND HIS BULLETS ARE EITHER TAKEN BY CLEARY OR OTHER HALVES (INC HYNES).
I'm a panthers supporter, live right next to bluebet stadium, cleary is my favourite player.... keep the same blues team.
110% yes let the boys who played in game2 continue where they left of
Absolutely keep the same team that put up a record score (34-0) against QLD. In fact, it should be something that NSW can be proud of that they can beat the Maroons _even without_ Cleary and Trbojevic.
Don’t get why they ask Freddy for his opinion on origin being the last coach sacked.
Whatever Freddy says do the opposite
Keep the winning line-up, no question.
Melbour e dont have the bye next week billy. They play tigers at leichardt
if they're both fit,bring them in.Keep Moses still.
like the Hunt role for QLD? Cleary on the bench in place of Watson?
I'd prefer no changes unless there's an injury or suspension.
Although I'm a huge Cleary supporter I do feel he should stay out if this one. Same for Tom.
Those 2 can have a crack next year if they're fit n healthy, no point return from injury into the hardest game of the comp without any gametime under their belt.
As a qldr i wouldnt change that lineup at all 🤷🏽♂️
Pretty sure that if Moses wasn’t out for over 2 months, that Parramatta wouldn’t be sitting where they are. They’ve clearly got massive defensive issues, but I don’t think they’d be where they are if he was there.
They still lost yesterday with him playing out of his skin
@@nuperspektive yup, you are right. But I don’t think that would have happened every game. They get two calls in that game last night and they probably win. Some games you get the calls. They wouldn’t have won just the game in nearly 2 and a half months with him there.
only change should be Trobovic need more meters from our prop more so our captain
I agree as a panthers fan please leave nathan out, we need to maintain being in the top 4🙏🏾☺️☺️
Don’t fix what ain’t broken
It’s the age old problem NSW have always had.. to big a pool of players to pick from…
Don’t change the squad!
Can’t see why you’d bring anyone in. But if they do, I’d be playing Moses at 6 Cleary at 7 and luai at 14.
We shall wait & see next Sunday when the team is selected!
No Moses is way over cleary
I like this take, Luai could adopt a role similar to Ben hunt for qld
@@JackH2254 no he can’t he dances around and ruins all the momentum
@@danielkelly4487he also spices things up - the defence don’t know where he’ll go. There’s always two sides
Don't fix what is not broken.
Yep. Leave them out. Stick with Moses, he played great.
Tommy is fragile and Cleary should just rule himself given how well Moses played
NO. Leave them be.
Nice vid
I think Billy just likes saying queenslander all the time.
Billy is being sucked into a strategy situation manipulated by the NSW first half, Billy needs to disavow this and devlop NEW strategy!
keep the winning team
I think if they’re bringing Cleary back in then Moses has to go to 6 and we find a spot for Luai
There will be no changes turbo not fit and clearly is done
"We look at all qlders" billy says. Yep qlders from new zealand
Same 17 unless injuries. That simple.
I’d maybe have turbo over Crichton for centre but leave Cleary out and Moses in
if moses wins the series for us in suncorp the 7 jersey is hes to lose i dont care what paramatta is doing
No reason Billy Slater should be there.
Why’s this even a discussion or debate ?.. Dismal round table discussion
Keep the same winning team from game2 no need for change
They haven't earned it regardless of past series leave 'em be and keep the side going
Cleary shouldnt play, he hasnt played a game for weeks, his duty is to get fit and start playing for his club.
Same team back turbo & clearly on the he bench
Cleary has never stood up in origin. He's the best NRL half but he not the best NSW half. Some players stand up some dont
No bring Tommy in on the bench and drop Jake for Nathan his still injured no chance of him returning bring Yeo to 13 and be Blues Captain that will be only the change in the game 2team and Blues will win the SERIES
stay with team that won forget cleary
If Cleary is fit and doesn’t get picked, NSW are absolutely cooked.
Moses is way better
@@tomthebomb2715 hahaha
Absolutely cooked ? Did you see what happened in game 2. Funny people in this comment section
@@doingadlay😂😂😂😂
Queenslander 💪💪💪👍
Kenem Kasun Black Brother's
Turbo on the bench
Lol no he will get tackled and break a rib
Turbo instead of Watson
Turbo is done always injured, his main focus should be on for manly who paid him millions for showing up only nearly half of the season
Turbo too fragile
Remove Luai and move Moses to 6 and Cleary to 7. That's the only change.
Don't change the fkng team that acored 34 points to ZERO in the first 40 minutes.
Brad that is why you always lose 😂 Johns is right. They got the job done why would you change that. Look at the Warriors 😂
I love Cleary, but he has had this chance at Origin level and failed. Moses deserves his chance.
What a dumb comment from Freddy “ Moses’s team is coming last”.. they are coming last because Moses has been out injured. Moses doesn’t have the system that depth that Penrith have to still get results when Cleary is injured.
That’s why Freddy no longer coach. He is dumb
Why on earth would you change the halves? Idiotic to even consider
Andrew Johns talks Cleary down at every opportunity. His bitterness during the GF comeback last year was there for all to see. He is worried that Cleary might one day have his mantle, so he is never objective about him.
"One of the best players in the world" Joey talking Nathan down? I have supported the panthers since '67, Joey loves Nathan.
@@daleviker5884 He may not always be 100% objective, but jealousy of his own record does not come into it.
He said in the GF that cleary single handley one the game for penrith and elevated his status to immortal level
He has said 1 million times at his age Cleary has eclipsed everyone. I don't necessarily agree but Johns has clearly said that Cleary has achieved the most of any half back for his age.
He talks Cleary up all the time. Stop being weird man
Make sure of the win.Bring in Jack Wighton.Thats all!
Come on Fitler, are you really crazy or where have you been?? How can you judge Mitchell Moses bcoz of his team's position on the ladder? He's been out for over two months due to injury. Besides, since his return, he always put in at least 8/10 performances consistently.
What more do you want? Being man of the match in Game ll wasn't enough for you? Or are you just salty bcoz NSW are doing much better without you? 🤣🤣
Thank God Fitler isn't coaching.
Imagine sitting next to nsw supporters,
Bring back turbo for full back leave out Cleary.
Cleary off the bench utility.
I'd replace hamole out
😂 wtf
I’d go Cleary Burton
Did you see how far he pumped those drop shot at goals
All burton can do is kick highly overrated
Embarrassing to say tht after moses performance
@@jackson7575 embarrassing
Sounds like your being emotional don’t let it cloud your judgement that’s what women do
There is no need for sentimentality this is business
Don’t be a girl
Very stupid suggestion 😂
@@mcgregorkurum no this is a stupid response
Leave them out. Moses is better than Cleary
As a qld fan I hope they bring them in 😂 easy win for us.
You don’t remember Turbo Tom and Latrell tearing QLD to pieces when they last played in origin together ? I do.
@useruseruseruseruser790 Last time tommy played he did his shoulder... again.. Tommy was a one hit wonder.
@@johnsonwithat2322 But he was so good when he was on. Literally unstoppable. Not a Manly fan, but I do hope that we see him full flight again.
@useruseruseruseruser790 how many surgeries ago was that? Blues dont need a change.
@@Jakescapez Yeah. Until they lose the next match.
Leave the team as is
First
No. leave the team as is.
Nsw is facing A decider at the cauldron and Cleary is available??!! Bye bye Mitchell Moses . You might be better than Nico but you aren’t Nathan. Turn it up Joey Johns you’re kidding yourself
No, he's NOT Nathan. He's 'Mitchell Moses!'
Yeah he's Mitchell Moses and he got the job done in game 2. Cleary has never performed well in origin he just chokes.
Got the job done??!! So what ? He’s third in line to the job. he would’ve been watching at home if Cleary was fit and Nico wasn’t so air soft
@@laffo1980 Nico is never getting that jumper again. Like I said keep Moses there
NO .
Moses performance was a fluke
No fluke there the kicks were on purpose and his runs were also good, the def on dearden was good ball and all with made dearden make mistakes he played a good game
@Adl-pk4hg after his sharks performance his only been good not great for the mighty eels
Yeah fluked it all night 😂😂
@@stanleytran7044bro how do you expect moses to play well every week with a shitty team. This shows how well of a player moses is surrounded by great players. Parramatta eels atm have a shitty coach and horrible players. Every week moses does his best for the team but they never respond with the right attitude. So don’t put this on moses. I feel bad for him, he dosnt deserve to play with such a bad team.
@jackson7575 if he does it in game 3 he will be nsw legend
Isn't going to make a difference either way....Queensland by 8pts.....
Remove Raace Walsh
I'm glad Moses did well but he'll have to step aside for Cleary next year. Clearly dynasty
Why? When Cleary has played, recently. He goes MIA.
In Will Smith’s voice - If ain’t broke then don’t try and fix it 💯🤣