Dangers of Social Media | Alex Gladstein and Lex Fridman
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
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Sadly. I think he is right when says people don’t care about their freedom or privacy. Most people care about unobstructed leisure
A side effect of a consumer based culture
@@Howaboutyoublow cue roger from cracked lol
People care but when it is too late. Human nature right there.
Freedom all the way! Only week people doesn't care about their freedoms.
Man we're living an episode of Black Mirror. We're the new season.
We’re living in a meme.
There is a solution. Abandon the whole thing. All of it. You don’t need it.
Try listening to this on your own in a small room eating frosted corn flakes dry from the box. It’s a miserable hopeless listen.
Digitizing doesnt lead to ideas being demonized (thats always happened). Its just easier to demonize things on a mass scale now than it was 20 years ago.
I have a theory . I think we have to assume, that no matter how much potential a new scientific discovery or an invention has, with a cultural mindset like ours, we will use it, to do more mindless sh..., for the most part. The problem lies within all of us, but only very few people want to even think about stuff like that. So that would mean that we are pretty much lost.
Most people only react, when its too late and they drag most other people down into the abyss, that`s our cultural fate.
Carl Sagan, 26 years ago (he nailed it):
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness."
Yes.
Lex, I think you missed the point. Censorship is not about filtering what you want to see. We all have that ability already. Its about blocking information between 2 other parties that want to share it with each other.
Idea: There must be a visual way to see bubbles, as an interface on the profile, where you can see the streams of informational aggregates that surround the profile. And have the possibility to switch between bubbles with a simple click. How can someone see in a visual way (colored bubbles in a space) the aggregates of information that are larger, and be able to adapt their feed.
Visual appeal and simplicity should be the developers' goal. For if the average citizen can understand the social dilema clearly and visually, he will decide for himself whether or not he is an algorithmic puppet.
The appeal is for transparency and clear intuitive understanding, with the addition of all this being modifiable by the end user.
In the next few months I will be conducting a study to see the effects of looking at images in media, particularly thin attractive models, on people’s immediate biases. This study can be used for a strong argument against chronic social media and pornography usage. When I conduct this study I will need more male participants. If anyone would like to contribute to this research and be a participant or learn more about it reply to this comment, it would be extremely helpful.
One of the base themes here seems to be that we need to protect cryptography primitives and widen their uses
A blue checkmark makes you more credible?
Pretty shiny things are like short-term gratification. Do you wanna read a book, or watch a TV?
I want the internet instead
so, when everyone is on Facebook and has their finances heavily staked in facebook's crypto economy, what happens when they deplatform you then?, cant do commerce ?
Interesting point
Slavery.
That’s a great point. Great business model. Have that button.
if this convo interests you, you'll probably enjoy Odysee as an alt to YT.
thanks
How is good to isolate yourself from everything you don't like or challenges your thoughts, isn't that the very definition of an Echo Chamber?
Gladstein is right. In europe thanks to the GDPR every website you visit asks you permission to collect data on you. The permission requests go in detail, both what they are sharing and who they are sharing it with. And basically nobody cares. This piece of legislation has made browsing the internet a gigantic pain in the ass. I can't see the football results without having to click off 30 slider buttons to deny a goddamn website my data. So annoying. Most people just click consent.
Nice, take the choice from everyone just for your convenience.
What a fantastic attitude, think only about yourself.
God forbit someone disagrees with you, Lex filter is amazing these days
@@marijanb.7775 I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, I'm saying most people don't care, read what I wrote. Either way there must be a way to streamline the process.
@@free_spirit1 No, you said "nobody cares", Reading is a difficult thing sometimes, I know....even if its your bloody text.
Go watch football and leave the GDPR system and hard won rights that many other people enjoy alone. If you don't like the services then stop using them.
And stop being "a gigantic pain in the ass"
Thank you
@@marijanb.7775 idk why you are being so rude about this, it is obvious that the way GDPR has been implemented has made the internet browsing experience measurably worse. By the way in case it wasn't clear from the way I wrote it, I am in favour of the GDPR and I am one of those annoying people who uses signal and painstakingly goes through all 30 sliders to turn them off whenever I go to a website. And I was just using football as a shorthand for explaining what regular folk might encounter (I don't care for sports). There really can be a better way to implement GDPR, for example a setting in your browser that allows to automatically turn off all tracking and data collection automatically when a website gets loaded. If you want to disable tracking on one site it is likely you want it on all other sites you visit, there's no reason why every individual website should ask you. I know there are browser extensions that look at the most common forms of cookie requests and automatically turn them off, but a non-tech savvy person like my mom has no clue about such things. Also, no idea why you need to be so fucking rude, you don't even know me.
@@free_spirit1 I am not being rude, i am just pointing out where you made mistake and are being incorrigible.
I also put an another perspective on it and since you were rude enough to put everyone in the same bucket and completely ignore that there may be other points of view.
I responded in a stronger manner than i would if you were polite and just voiced your opinion.
You may not have meant it to sound like it did but it did sound like that for me.
No, not everyone sees GDPR implementation as something bad or it making the experience worse. I for one see it as an important step forward towards achieving a thing that is sorely needed. Every time i see the wall of text you find tedious i see it as an incentive for some tech savvy person to circumvent it and automate the tedious part.
If enough people feel as you do they would jump on his solution in a heartbeat and voila, we would have a success.
People pay a price for watching broadcast TV. But they don't really know what that price is - or its true magnitude. Same will be true with free AR - except it will be way more amplified.
funny how the same arguments were used to ban book back in the 60s. I guess it's not censorship when it's apply on the disliked subject matter.
Books are all still being banned today, they never stopped...
Social media is Leading us in the direction of 1984.
remember when people just sat around and talked about stuff and everyone sat around and watched them talk about stuff. wonder how anything gets done if always worried about someone or something else, geee
Without censorship, the conclusions based on truth or at least based on clues are way weaker than those not based on such thing, is to the public. Human kind is easier to be touched by emotions than logic. Censorship hurt both of them but it hurts rumor more imo.
The solution is making all the people useful but this is way hard for us to do now. You can have enough money, enough people do help you with this, but you have no way for persuade or force people to learn and get trained to become more useful.
This the reason censorship is so popular even in democratic places.
Edit: Check out a person called Miles Kuo(郭文贵), a Chinese guy who is too great at inciting. He got 400 subscriptions within half a year. I'm not gonna talk about if the things he mentioned in his videos or interviewing are true or fake, neither do you need to know. All you need to learn from him is the real power of inciting. And intuitively, when inciting, fabricated things are way easier to use and easier to be powerful than true things. This why censorship protects countries and all the useful people.
We are essentially primates slinging feces at each other more figuratively than literally.
lex... if legislation exists that platforms can be sued for allowing content, then no amount of "self tools" will un expose them to risk. furthermore, self tools will enable easier siloing of information and ideology. this will be viewed badly by authoritarians
I really don’t want to stream in money.
This sounds like an awesome idea 💡
Aave is preparing a decentralized social network
EITHER SENSOR EVERYONE OR DON'T SENSOR ANYBODY PERIOD.
Web 3.0 will fix this
cheese sauce Lex.... on the broccoli
Elizabeth Stark AKA the daughter of Tony Stark
Anyone else think that Lex's idea to show people what they want to see is...a very bad take?
Free speech is an amazing thing. But if someone uses their right to spew hate filled speech that incites violence and deaths of innocent people, should there be consequences for that?
I think when it’s a private company they can choose to not let someone use the power of their algorithm for free.
The problem now is that profits decide that it’s best to just let everyone amplify the most salacious content because it will keep people engaged with ads. Freedom is not this.
You guys always miss the point when discussing social media. These platforms are global, which means they have to adhere to the law in ALL countries they operate. They don't have to adhere to US laws only. So American freedom of speech is irrelevant as they can get sued by people in other countries for what you upload. The only way around that is to break up these platforms and have a US Facebook, Canada Facebook and Mexico Facebook and not allow users from different countries interact.
Sounds like Lex supports personal isolation, safe spaces and echo chambers.
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These two individuals, whom I both respect, are naive about the level of intelligence in the average human being.
thumbs down emoji, super emoji
I don’t see a problem with misinformation - I can mute someone I don’t like on Twitter.
The problem is stupid people see it and then storm the capital.
@@nextbizzy the problem is people see it and think the doors weren’t opened for them ;)
I like the taste of broccoli