Sean Payton: I didn’t want Saints job
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2018
- Saints head coach Sean Payton shares the story of general manager Mickey Loomis recruiting him to New Orleans, despite Payton’s interest to accepting a position with the Green Bay Packers. Payton goes on to discuss the Saints’ first home game at the Superdome after Hurricane Katrina. Plus Drew Brees and Loomis reflects on the importance of winning that first home game and the steps Payton took to prepare his team.
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Love the brutal honestly of Payton about the job before everything. He can say whatever he wants because he's been here and he's a part of NOLA now.
Agree
I can't disagree with him about being a great place to visit, but bad for raising kids. I agree with your statement though.
Louisiana ranks 50th out of 50 states (per USNEWS, 2018). We are officially ranked below Mississippi. The rating is based on education, healthcare, job opportunities...everything. Sean Payton is simply speaking honestly. In the words of a Few Good Men (to anyone who disagrees with S P): You can't handle the truth.
Well I mean I'd have rather gone to the Packers BACK THEN over the Saints, too, it's not like he's from here, he had no loyalty or special interest in the team at the time but thank GOD he changed his mind. No way to know for sure what would've happened in an alternate reality but I actually part way think that he had more success with the Saints and will enjoy a better, stronger legacy than if he went to a more established club like the Packers. Sean Payton is basically, arguably, the #1 reason that the Saints are the opposite of a joke anymore. He's taken a lousy team and transformed them into legitimate perennial playoff contenders, and I think going forward (especially if Drew plays a few more seasons) we'll not only see more playoffs, we'll likely see more Super Bowls, and basically I think the next 10 years of the NFL if Coach plays the draft well enough we might actually be the next NFL dynasty team, similar to the Patriots, something Sean Payton has publicly said he'd like to set up WHEREVER he goes. Thank God we have him. Truly.
Justin Lui actually it’s good living in South West Louisiana but the north is trash
Peyton and Brees will always be remembered by that city. Legendary what they pulled off!
Sort of like Shula and Marino or Walsh and Montana
@Rowdy Jr. Man stfu😴
Rowdy Jr. wow, great history lesson. I’m not a fan of the saints so I can give three fucks about what they used to be called or blah blah. I’m just giving my opinion about what this man did for that city. Are you running for mayor? Cuz if you are drop out now.
Shut your bitch ass up dumb dumb!
Rowdy Jr. I ses you're a punk ass Seahawks fan😂😂😂😂 Have a seat u clown!!
Coach I love ❤️ your honesty about the city. I'm not mad at you for telling the truth. Respect!
He's a fuckin cheater fuck him no respect tbh.
Ain't nobody here upset about what he said. It's the truth, and we know it. This city is mess, but we love her anyway.
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos but I cannot express how happy I am that Sean and Drew came to NOLA. People will never understand but they saved our city! I’m tearing up reliving that moment. America May have forgotten but New Orleanians will never forget what the Saints did to help us recover!!!
Pastor Chuck That was those "New Orleans Aints" brown paper bag days
Exactly Larry. Even then I was a fan lol
Well said, Pastor Chuck
@mustang cobra Yeah u right!!!!
As a Detroiter I understand the magnitude of Peyton and Brees, and those 2 together built up a great team and I 100percent agree with you that ultimately those 2 going to the Saints was the start of the Saints saving the city! That firs game back at the Superdome vs Atlanta Falcons on MNF was magical and when the Falcons punt got blocked and then the Saints ran it for a touchdown and then the place erupted, I have never heard anything like that in my life. Watching and hearing the Superdome crowd gave me goosebumps and I cried my eyes out. I felt that as I watching this magical moment that new Orleans is back and maybe even better than ever! It was a privilege to watch that night and to see how a community and football team came together for the love of the Superdome being back, and the love of the game and most importantly the love of the city, I'm tearing up now writing this. Although im a die-hard Lions Fan I'm proud to say that I'm now a huge fan of the Saints and the city, together y'all unstoppable!
Aaron Rodgers threw his phone into his pillow after seeing this.
hahahahahaha
The pillow he was already biting? Rodgers is a jackass.
😚😂😂😂💀👻
@@swiftslick Beat me to it lol
As a Detroiter and a die-hard Lions Fan I loathe Arron Rodgers!!!!
that y we love you u stuck with us through our toughest days of our lives thanks Sean and Dree
Stanley Dawson only reason he came was packers turned him down, he was all but gone man
+JP Twenty Four you are right JP twenty four
JP Twenty Four but then he stayed after they won the Super Bowl he could have gotten any job he wanted
JP Twenty Four I don’t blame him who would want to take a shitty job, and to be honest I appreciate his blunt honesty... but not only did he win the super bowl in 2010 he turned a shitty team to super bowl contenders for a decade
Byronsito 504 they were sb contenders for 2010, 2011, maybe 2013, definitely 2017, and maybe this year. So maybe half a decade. Not even really the actual sb year bc that came out of nowhere.
They gave Mr. Benson credit for keeping the team in New Orleans when he passed, but the person who actually did that was this gentleman right here. If he and Brees don’t light it up in 2006 and reignite ticket sales, they’re the San Antonio Saints today.
Kelvin Ordon I didn’t pull that city out of the air. Mr. Benson made his fortune in car dealerships and banking in the San Antonio area. In 2005, the Saints played 3 of their home games in the Alamodome. Commissioner Tagliabue had to step in and force the organization to play the majority of their games in Louisiana at Tiger Stadium otherwise they’d have played all the home games in San Antonio.
Joshua Leonard do you ever football? Out your KEISTER, not thin air.
Hengel Andrews how is it you can type in English but apparently can’t read it? Very strange.
@@joshualeonard9702 4 were played in the Alamodome & 3 in Tiger stadium in 05.
@Kelvin Ordon hes correct it would of been san Antonio.
I am from Hamburg in Germany, and was heartbroken when Katrina happend as I couldn't believe how devastining this was.
It was also great to see how many people from Germany flew over there with dozens of our biggest pumps to help get rid of the water again. But the greatest story is really what Sean and Drew put together to lighten the city up again...and yes... Kudos to Mr. Benson for staying!
I live in New Orleans. Thank you for coming down to help us out after the storm
Thank you for your efforts sincerely ⚜✊🏾✊🏾💯
Thank you Sean The Saints were blessed to have you n Drew.
Sean Payton and Drew Brees brought tradition to the Saints.
Matthew L. Kelly *a winning tradition
He is 100% spot-on about NOLA post-Katrina. Only within the past 3-5 years have people stopped using Katrina as an excuse for everything.
Sean Payton and Brees Statue will be in front the Superdome soon
They deserve it
this man brought so much heart ad soul into New Orleans!!! I have been a fan since 1999 and am so thankful for Sean and Drew!!!
elizabeth brogan you bad
tell them baby u so right
@@stanleydawson7977creeping on UA-cam... nice
Thank you Jesus for blessing New Orleans with Sean and Dree Brees coming to New Orleans. GREAT pick and look at us NOW. WE ARE THE LUCKY ONES HAVING THEM. WHO DAT!!!! WE DAT!!! WHOOT DER IT IS!!! GEAUX SAINTS
Payton and Brees are just like Brady and Belicheck, Montana and Walsh, and Shula and Marino. One of the greatest Coach and QB pairs in NFL History
You misspelled his name when it's literally in the title.
Don't forget about the Original Head coach QB pair, Lombardi and Starr
Putting illegal hits on players... You should compare to Bonnie and Clyde, Baker and Crump, or Barlow and Chambers.
@@g.wildey8028 good thing if you know the full story, Peyton got suspended for knowing about it
I would honestly go as far to say Peyton and Brees are above all of those coaches/qbs not just for football but no other Qb/head coach have ever meant so much to a city. They kept the saints in Nola when everyone was looking for an excuse to move them. Drew and Peyton brought back a team, a franchise, and the entire city/ state. No other duo matches up to what they mean to the city. When drew retires they will build a statue of him the next day. Sometimes things are bigger than football and the impact brees and Peyton have had in Nola is unmatched.
Wow he was honest. But I like it. People here think this is the best place in the world to live but I always like to hear an honest opinion from someone who's not from here. I was fortunate enough to live in other places because of the military and still chose to comeback here live. It may not be the best place in the world but it is one of the most passionate places in the world.
Dwayne Harris seems kinda like a shitty place to live imo. I’ve visited and thought it was cool but live I don’t think I could do that
@@ethanleicester1199 To each his own. I believe that because I grew up here, I find it special. But I can understand why many people would disagree with my perspective. So I no problem with what you said.
Dwayne Harris yea man same reason for me tho. I live just outside Minneapolis on a lake and just couldn’t imagine living in a place like that. I juts live for the seasons and all that plus the fact it’s generally a safer and better place to be here. I’d assume u couldn’t take the cold of Minny either so yea haha. I loved visiting NOLA tho it was a lot of fun
Raised and grew up in NOLA for 30-plus years. Honesty is an admirable quality, and Sean Payton spoke his heart. P.s. USNEWS ranks Louisiana 50 out of 50 (based on education, job opportunities, healthcare, etc.)
It is a love/hate relationship living in New Orleans/Louisiana. The city and state each have a slew of problems, but all I did was miss them when I was living away. It is far from the most functional place to live, but you will not find a place that has more culture or passion pouring out of every pore.
I am not a football fan, don't understand the game, can't follow the ball, etc. But I watched that first game , from my refuge up in Washington State, and I personally felt reborn. It will always stay with me as one of the most important moments of my life. I am so grateful to Sean Payton, to Drew Brees, to Steve Gleason, to the whole team, for the huge part they played in New Orleans' recovery. Without them, something might have existed here, but it wouldn't have been the #NOLA we loved. Thank you, thank you, thank you all!
The title doesn't give this video justice. Awesome interview with great topics! I lived thru the Katrina years. @saints showed us that a 3-13 team can rebuild and become relevant in the Football world and that first game was inspirational for a city of people that lost everything and were clinging to any uplifting stories we could find in our lives!
The Bensons, Coach Payton, and Drew Brees are all the guys that will be forever apart of Louisiana. What they did for that city and state is amazing. Very lucky and grateful to have them with us.
I like how this is in my recommended the same day Sean Payton leaves the saints.
It was an honor and a privilege to have you as our head coach for all these years.
Thank you for all your hard work, dedication and sacrifice.
I am a season ticket holder since 1967 and that first game after Katrina back in the dome was the most exciting game ever played in the dome in Saints history.
Young people today don’t realize just how pathetic the saints organization was for so many years. The fact that he brought a super bowl championship to that franchise and city is extremely impressive.
True. I'm 27 (about to be 28) and my first NFL season as a fan was 2003. So the Saints haven't been a laughing stock in my fandom at all. Within three years they had Brees.
I grew up in NoLa. Soon as I got my license. I got the heck out of the city. I do miss it tho
i appreciate the longer videos, it's worth the watch...
I respect your honesty Sean Payton. Thats why we love you. Im from New Orleans and currentlly live in Dallas and i feel ya. But what you have done for us is impeccabile#whodatt
I'm glad he had a big ass heart to come nd stay wit us. REAL man to do dat fa us.. He deserves another ring!!!!!
I remember that first game back it was louder then when we won the NFC championship game frfr
Sean Payton wanted to go to Green Bay but they went with Mike McCarthy instead. Guess who just got fired? Like JUST got fired, not even a few weeks ago, and guess who is now about to take their previously-underdog team to the freaking playoffs and potentially the Superbowl itself for the second time!
I respect a man who is honest and doesn't care what anyone thinks. Things happen for a reason someone higher told Sean you and Drew you both are needed here and I'm just glad they listen sometimes we just have to listen.
I've been a die hard Saints fan since 1979 and I can tell you I've been through the heartbreaks for years of this team. Up until Payton and Brees arrived, they only had 5 playoff appearances and 1 playoff win. Even during the pre-Payton/Brees days they were fun to watch but could find a billion ways to lose games at the end and crush your soul. I've seen them blow 35-7 leads 34-14 leads, lose with hail mary's and alot more. They would beat teams they had no business beating and lose to teams they should have dominated. What a crazy ride it has been. The worst tenure for me was when Mike Ditka was head coach from 1997-1999. God he sucked!
Oh man LMAO i remember those games us beating AAA teams yet losing to literally horrible teams lol
Love the saints and they sound like my hometown browns lol
I got chills watching this interview. Like they say the blessing in this is being from the city and actually know we were revived thru football that's all we know is how to have a good time and lift one another spirits. they don't call them the saint's for no reason. Amen GOD bless my city bless my team . who DAT for life.
Talk about a town adopting you and you adopting a town. Him and Brees are legends there. Pretty cool
Same thing happened when Reggie Bush went to the city. The Saints took him out for dinner and every one in the restaurant stood up and applauded. That was before they drafted him. Reggie decided then and there he was going to be a Saint.
It's amazing what he said about New Orleans
Great place to visit
But never wanna live here,it's amazing
I use to always hear the tourist say the exact same thing
I left at 19 years old. It's the truth !
Excellent interview
Love the honesty
I'm glad he came to New orleans. Between him n micky/ others that get our draft n free agency picks; I'm just glad thatwe have the talent we got
Nice share! Great background.
We had it hard during our darkness!! I lost so many things but when we saw you and drew bres where our hope I've always love the saints,will always be. my favorite Team everyone wants to be you and Drew and I'm from Mississippi and I'm sick of the talk of you leaving I don't believe it!!!! We need y'all back!! All our great who dat nation! I wish I could show you coach peyton of our love for the saints
As a lifelong Falcons fan, liking the saints was never entered into it, but ducktailing out of Katrina to a new regime, quarterback, and eventually not long after a superbowl win, and a consistent winning culture that always has a chance to win each sunday behind Sean and Drew is something they deserve after so long being the Ain'ts
Packers gotta be kicking themselves hiring McCarthy over Payton
I wouldn't think so. I'm a Saints fan, but I think that has worked out perfectly for both organizations. They have both won a Super Bowl since.
+Mr. Don Sean Payton is regarded as the finest offensive mind in the NFL. Mike McCarthy is an average coach who's benefited from having a generational player at QB. I still have no idea how McCarthy even got an interview for that job. His stint as OC in San Francisco was a disaster. Most Green Bay fans would gladly take Payton over McCarthy.
@@Narrate918 those regards are from people who don't know football, or people who just simply have biases. "Average coaches" don't win Super Bowls. Do you think that Sean Payton would be viewed the same way if he didn't have Brees? I'm not sure why people regard Rodgers as so great, and Brees not so much, when they are basically equals. I would probably give Brees an edge, to be honest. They are both great, but just because Rodgers has a stronger arm and more mobility doesn't necessarily make him a better QB. Is Payton a good coach? Yes, but as great as he has been of an offensive coach (and not always...I wouldn't consider a great passing game without a running game a 'great offense'), he has been almost equally bad with his defenses. McCarthy was a great coordinator who went on to become a good head coach in his own right...just the same as Payton has. Perception often times isn't reality.
+Mr. Don So much wrong with your response but the fact that you think Brees is better than Rodgers proves that you have no clue what you're talking about. No one with half a brain would have made that statement. Just wow.
@@Narrate918 are you serious? It's not wrong or right...just a difference of opinion. Just look at the numbers, dude. I conceded the fact that Rodgers has a stronger arm and is more mobile than Brees. Yet, Brees is still able to put up equal to or better numbers than Rodgers, with less physical ability. What does that say, do you think? If you are a Packers' fan, then your opinion on them makes sense. Rodgers has a ways to go to catch up with Brees...not in actual ability, but in putting up numbers, and skins on the wall. If he does it, then I will agree with you, but he's pretty injury prone, too. That takes away from his greatness, in my opinion. He has to shake that if he wants to be ahead of Brees when they are both done playing.
Jerry Jones should have never let him get away😭
Scott Camp 💯 facts
Funny that mike zimmer was the DC too...
Sometimes what U don't want ends up being exactly what U need. He may not have wanted 2 coach in New Orleans, but we can all agree thats what made coach Payton a well respected NFL legend. He won majority of the time he coached there. And if there was a losing season, it was no worse then 7-9. He also had at least one 8-8 season. 10-6,11-5, 12-4, 13-3, 9-8, etc.
WoW this was so good. Wish more guys would be honest. And be authentic
This is great
We were the Aints before Sean came to our city, Bless you Sean!
With the job Payton's done this year without Brees on the field, you really see more than ever how great of a coach he is.
I'm a thankful Saints fan.
I'm so glad Sean Payton and Drew Bree's came to New Orleans SAINTS ❤️ God bless them 😇❤️⚜️ WHO DAT NATION ❤️⚜️
This interview is so good from Graham that we focused on the conversation and NOT Payton's socks. 😎
I think Sean is the best Coach, he adjusts QB very fast
I admire you, you have the dream job. Interview so many people
I just got choked up my damn self.
I remember I cried when they lost to the bears that postseason, I was rooting for them so hard to succeed
New Orleans & South Louisiana have some of the best fans in the country. The love they have for Louisiana, New Orleans, the Saints, and LSU is hard for anyone outside the State to understand. Yes Louisiana has its' problems but we love it nonetheless.
Being from the North Shore (of New Orleans ), coach and drew helped us rebuild the gulf south side by side. They gave us hope and then delivered in ‘09 by beating the New Orleans native son, Peyton Manning. Drew will break Manning’s record tomorrow night on MNF against redskins. WHO DAT!!!!
I really like this interview. But can we appreciate how nice that table is?
That’s why we love Sean Payton real stand up guy !!!! Who Dat !!!
Thank you green bay
We would of beat ANY team in history that night we reopened the dome. 84 bears? Pfft
Open the closet and the door falls off...yep, that's new orleans. Alarm didn't work? Lady says c'est la vie? Yep, that's my city!
How does a City like San Diego not have an NFL team & New Orleans even after Katrina still has the Saints. Oh yeah, they have a great owner in Benson. Unlike a cheap, greedy owner in Spanos.
6:56 when the edible kicks in
Lmfao
Sean Payton’s socks are awesome!
We keep telling these guys how much they helped us in a time of need. Till this day, I dont think they fully understand how much they played a role in rebirthing the city. WHO DAT
Never thought that Drew was the man for us. Was I ever wrong. But thankful forever he is here and love eat Hong him play. And what an exceptional qb. be forever remembered and loved. You all that And a box of cookies Dtew
Watching. Auto INcorrect
That is the best table ever!
Funny how things happen in life.but one thing is for sure,everything happens for a reason!
Well Damn!!!!
If you can turn the saints into winners you are a top coach period
Watching this again after seeing Home Game on netflix
So true...NOLA a place to visit but not live. Amen
I bleeds black and gold! Who Dat! Thanks Sean and Drew. And special thanks Mr. TB!
An look at us now,,, Louisiana strong ,,, god is good!!!! Who Dat
So funny how things happen. Payton didn't want the coaching job and brees wanted to head to Miami until his wife brought a house on St Charles ave! So glad to have them both.
I did not know Payton wanted to go to Green Bay but I bet he is glad he is here....Our food is wayyyyyy better with much more culture in this FUN city....No disrespect to GB..
Them socks though lol
Just imagine if he went to GB, Rodgers would of had about 3 rings
S DONALD brees doesn’t even have 3 rings with the team they have now lol
SkiinLvzt news flash.... Arod can make throws that other QBs can not (Except for Mahomes).... Brees and Brady said this not me
@@sdonald83 Arod can make throws that others cannot? Are you daft? Aaron is a stats padder. There are NO throws that Rodgers has ever made that Brady, Manning, Brees, Stafford, Rivers, Favre or really any other B-tier QB could not make. That hyper-fantasy of crowning Rodgers as being able to make unheard-of throws is overhyped and annoying AF. You're not 11, start watching games yourself and stop salivating over a dude who's done literally nothing to carry his team in a decade. If you REALLY think that Rodgers would have more rings even with Bill at helm, you're lying to yourself. The guy isn't clutch in the playoffs and needs a strong D to make it through. I'd much rather be rolling with Drew, Brady or P Manning when he was active and healthy.
Canadian Boy and you make no damn sense. Marino was probably one of the greatest throwers of the football. Where’s his rings? They did not surround him by the “personnel” but he still in the hall of fame... These are not my words about throws that he can make that others can’t. Those are Brady and Brees’ statements! Also, Bennett who played with both Brady and Rodgers even said Rodgers is a better thrower but not leader. So do you really think because you write a long paragraph that I’m going to side with you? lol your hate for Rodgers is strong Skip Bayless
Canadian Boy I have a right to my opinion. You are one angry dude lol. Rodgers is one of the greatest QB of this era. These are not my words but NFL legends who played the game Sharpe, Carter, Moss Etc. So u stfu!... By the way just like Marino you can only carry a team so far if you don’t have the personnel. You can roll with Brady and Brees who gives a 💩? I probably would pick Brady over Rodgers in the playoff. Rodgers is great but it doesn’t mean Brady or Brees are not....Rivers? Lol
Need this guy in Carolina #keeppounding
Because of this post-Katrina season I always found myself rooting for New Orleans as a second team.
Crazy how life works
Interesting.
He has to win the TIGHTEST SUIT of the Year award for this. Oh and the Wonderful Wizard of Oz socks.
Am i the only one who noticed how odd Graham wears his seatbelt? Lol
LOL bugged tf outta me
Gunna get him killed
Since Payton as the driver is legally required to have his on normally, Graham offset his seatbelt to avoid hitting the mic so they'd have one clean audio source. Duh.
I wear mine like that it's more comfortable
It's not worn odd, it's worn incorrectly.
For everyone mad at Packers for not hiring Sean Payton exactly how many Superbowls has Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy won in that time period and do you really think Aarons diva mentality would work well with Sean Payton?
You gotta remember Sean is the guy who kept his options open a few off seasons to get pay raises and extensions. I remember he was linked with Cowboys and he said I'm open to options and boom he gets an extension and pay raise. LA Rams job is open and boom extension and pay raise. Would Payton and Rodgers mesh well. For the longest both McCarthy and Payton were the same. Great offenses but bad defenses wasting a Hall of Fame QBs time. While Mickey Lomis was willing to sign young stars to large contracts McCarthy had Ted Thompson who wouldn't spent a dime for a player under 30 in free agency. McCarthy had to publicly call him out.
Payton would have also 100% stuck with Favre. McCarthy was given the job specifically because he wanted to work with Rodgers. Payton is a good offensive mind but in all honesty he hasn’t done anything that special in terms of an actual coaching job during a season since 09, which ironically was the year Favre’s Vikings gifted him a trip to the Super Bowl. McCarthy at the very least pieced together wins with an average NFL roster, Payton has been working with All-Pros on both sides of the ball year after year. There’s only two truly great coaches working in the NFL today anyway and that’s Belichick and Reid, maaaaaybe Doug Pederson.
Nice socks, coach 😁
The football God's shined on me in 2006... Miami's doctors refused to give the dolphins the green light to sign Brees so he comes to my saints... Nick Saban didn't get his quarterback and realized he wanted to be back in college... And he comes to Alabama... All I can say is Roll Tide and Who Dat!!
CRC SPORTS I was born in Newbern Alabama and moved to New Orleans when I was 16. The football gods blessed me too. Roll tide and who dat
Who dat and Geaux Tigers #LSU
❤️⚜️❤️⚜️❤️⚜️❤️⚜️❤️
IT WAS DESTINY!!
I was at that game lol I remember sean Payton and the team getting off the bus , he had one of those madlock pinstripe suits on lol he was so different from Mora Ditka and Haslet lol but he was lazer focused, walking fast lol I honestly didn't know what to think of him, but I knew when we made it to the NFC championship game for the first time ever in his first year lol it was a wild ride guys and now that him and drew are gone those 15 16 yrs went by in a blink of an eye smh it's crazy lol I just wish we could have figured the defense out yrs ago, I'm convinced if we would have had a defense like the one we've had the last 3 or 4 yrs they would have at least 2 more rings lol that dking offense was unstoppable and those defenses under Greg Williams , steve spagnuolo and Rib Rayan were not just bad but historically bad, I have never seen anything like it, hell even the super bowl yr they were hard to watch at times lol they gave up a ton of yard , the only thing that saved them was the turnovers, they got a ton of turnovers and Drew brees and the offense couldn't be stop lol the league had never seen anything like drew and Sean's offense or like the defenses smh ✊🏽 see yall on the neutral ground family
Same last name, that’s cool #bensinger
I said that before he answered that's football off season knowledge Adam schefter good
my nigga graham lookin fly af
The socks look good
I love what he did for their city but GODDAMN I would have loved to have him here in GB. 😫
There was speculation at this time that the Saints would relocate to San Antonio and the Superdome would just be used for rock concerts and Super Bowls. Today, the Saints leaving New Orleans is unthinkable.
Sean we want you in Dallas as a cowboys headcoach..
You coached yesterday like you don't want the Saints job.
Damn he would have been great in GB
I was ready to throw hands when he said laughingstock.
Yoshi the saints were one of the worst franchises in NFL history up until sean peyton and drew brees came
No one could have beat the saints the first game back in the dome
I don't know how much more successful the Packers would've been with Sean Payton as opposed to Mike McCarthy, and especially Matt LaFleur. But it's just crazy to see... the Packers have always been in the mix for almost every major move you can think of and it's crazy how conservative they are and how many things they barely miss out on.