There have been multiple instances where a player just straight up doesnt read my commander and then gets confused when I start doing stuff with him out.
Out of spite against heist decks, I made an "only lands" deck. It will NEVER win against anyone, but it brings me great glee to watch all of their heist cards fizzle.
It has been at least a decade, do man lands still exist? an activated ability on a land that turns it into a creature temporarily. Also that "only lands" is so close to being an Onlyfans pun, I just don't know how to make it work.
Mind goblin is banned for another problem really (especially in legacy). In theory, if you are running stickers, you are playing goblin prison. But if you are not running stickers then you are def not running goblin prison unless you run copy spells. Which means, in theory if you are not running stickers pregame, your oponent immeadatly knows that you are nether running copy or goblins. This creates a problem. And the solution is everybody should be running stickers regardless if they are playing goblins or not, else you are at a infomation disadvantage, andthat is a massive logistical issue.
@@ferdithetank7535 yeah lmao, basically competitively it is correct just to run stickers regardless. I have heard story of delver midrange mirror both flipping stickers in pregame, it's pretty funny.
The heist mechanic in brawl seems fine. Give it a month and we’ll all forget how strong those cards are. Davriel, Soul Broker brawl commander on the other hand is a menace that deserves a stern rant about it.
i saw someone on reddit with photographic evidence that they played an unfinity draft game against maro, but had only their word that maro used a "Mind" sticker on ___ Goblin. i choose to believe them
I really hate playing against heist, especially Grenzo. It feels horrible watching my opponent play my best cards for free while I draw a bunch of land. Grenzo is one of the most common commanders I face in brawl. It feels like I'm being forced to run a heavy counterspell deck to deal with it but I hate strategies like that.
@@ColeTrainStudio So they play the card for free and I have to spend 2 cards and however much mana to get it back onto my side? That is just not a winning solution in terms of value or tempo. Plus they are partially in control of what cards I draw.
Someone talked about using a land-only Slimefoot deck. They are perfectly fine not winning with the deck for the trade off of heist players mining salt lol
Yeah and if your the (wrong colors) you just don't have Any thing to stop them from histing you. I think it kinda ruins the hole color wheel. To be fair they already ruined it a while ago. So who's looking forward to the mouth or 6 mouths of the pushed modern masters3 cards?!
@@chrispratt3666 Run more card advantage engines then. Or run Opposition Agent (not sure if this is legal in Brawl). Or cards that punish players for committing crimes. Or cards that make you, the player, untargetable (Leyline of Sanctity, Metropolis Reformer, Shalai). Run cards that stop ETB triggers (hushbringer, huatli's honorguard) or that remove the effects (darksteel mutation, kenrith's transformation). You could also target the Grenzo with cheap removal (speaking of value and tempo); Swords to Plowshares is one mana, Go for the Throat is two mana. Grenzo is six mana, which is not easy to get to, and commander tax will quickly make it unplayable. Land removal also exists; deny their mana. Grenzo may be annoying, but it's not actually all that strong. And like you said, counterspells exist; use them. If you're constantly running into Grenzo, *run answers to it.* I am genuinely baffled by the amount of people that play MtG that *refuse* to play sufficient interaction or adapt to strategies that beat their own. Heist is three random cards from your deck. Brawl is a singleton format. The likelihood of them always having heist cards and hitting cards from the heist trigger that are useful to their strategy is low. If they're taking the cards you need to be successful every time, then you to diversify your deckbuilding and fill it with more redundancy. Complaining and disregarding all solutions doesn't solve your problem. If your deck always fails, change it so it doesn't. If you don't like the resulting play patterns, try different solutions. If you don't like any solutions, then switch formats. Or play a card game with play patterns you do like. For example, I've found that I get enjoyment from Flesh and Blood since it provides similar commander-esque play patterns. Plus you can play it completely free online. Apologies if this seems standoffish, but this sort of mentality--"I don't like this type of playstyle, it shouldn't be in the game"--is the exact reason I stopped playing non-cEDH commander in the first place. Commander players complain more than any other format's players than I've interacted with (and I talk regularly with modern players). (inb4 the glib 1-2 sentence response that disregards the majority of this comment and fixates on responding to a single point while not effectively debating anything I've said)
Stickers always did seem like they could be difficult in proper formats but isn't most of the onus on the player who uses them and those have been fine? Moreover I think attractions posed no problem at all so there's like 0 issue to ban those; obscene amounts of tokens are more of a logistical issue than that.
Those silly bans can't stop me and my friends from playing the cards :D We recently got into magic in my 4 friend group, we bought ourselves a 10-15$ decks from a guy on the internet and we havin a blast so far meeting every few evenings for a round or two and some beer
well, yeah. bans don't exist to police kitchen table magic (though they should be used to inform your own house banlist), they exist for the sake of sanctioned play not sucking ass.
They banned All That Glitters? Why? It's just a voltron card are you serious? Edit: which format was it banned in? I *might* understand some of the 60 card formats, as long as it isn't banned in commander
@ColeTrainStudio okay I guess I can KINDA see it being banned there... I imagine that it gets goofy with all the 1 or zero cost artifacts or ways to make artifacts tokens. Still dumb though.
@@benjamintim3542I don’t play a lot of pauper, I just follow it a bunch and I’d say it’s probably the card I see complaints about the most. It could just swing the game and you could just lose the game out of nowhere, not a fun play pattern.
@@benjamintim3542 Pauper. Yes, the untapped artifact lands have claimed yet another victim, we gotta be at the 6th or 7th card banned for their sins now but they´re so iconic they don´t want to ban them.
I still a bit weirded out about stickers because it seems fine... on Arena. They already got perpetuity going on so why not just toss some dumb fun in there?
The amazing thing is, it's not on arena. They just did it on paper. Now, as a (rather inexperienced) coder myself, I can understand not putting in stickers and all the acorn cards, but I still feel like there were a lot of great opportunities for fun cards in arena from unfinity!
Because stickers are not an arena only mechanic. They don't want to have cards that are legal on Arena but not legal in paper, in the same format. So, if they want to ban it in a format (e.g. legacy) on paper, it must be banned in that format on Arena.
Day twelve asking you to roast the fourteenth doctor. It's gotten to the point that it's feeling a tad overdramatic, with an electric guitar and sunglasses to boot
as someone who really enjoys unsets for their fun and unique gameplay, it was really frustrating seeing them print legal cards in unfinity, and even more frustrating seeing them go back on that decision after the fact now and ban all unfinity cards in black border
Now I understand why I’ve been getting heisted for the last week. The absolute surge of grixis decks I’ve been seeing has been devastating for my mental health
>we made a silver border set with goofy logistically unfeasible mechanics tournament legal >Woops, that was a mistake, they're just silver border again Was this any surprise?
Is heist really that bad? I only play brawl that allows it and it's fine but shouldn't it be better to build a deck with good cards instead of hoping your opponent has good cards?
The next ban list should ban LSV, the -asshole- guy committed serious public indecency by fellating himself on TCGPlayer about how WotC will be rightly scared to try anything innovative because of (alleged) people like him within an hour of the announcement. Also, can we get B&R to just admit that the only members not playing Re-SCAM-inator are playing Grixis Delver? Grief and Bowmasters have "had our eye on" them for like 10 announcements now, it's the banlist equivalent of "bang, zoom, straight to the moon!" at this point and I can't help but suspect favoritism.
Arena devs aren't being held hostage, they just dont know how to make cards and whales enable it. Have any of yall read a reddit thread about arena? The higher ranked the player is, the more they play only to cheat and make the game less fun for their opponents by any means necessary
Im about to just unban everything and start this shit over from scratch fr. Fuck it, bring back Flash. These people have no idea what theyre doing anyway (and the entire Unfinity set was a huge mistake to begin with, what a massive waste of time, FUCK Saw in Half).
Honestly, the outright admission that Stickers and Attractions should have been acorn stamped from the start is really aggravating because of the meaning when considered with the multiple levels of “we made stuff black border so you’d actually buy it”. You’re telling me stickers and attractions could have been way more goofy and fun but you stripped both of those things because you didn’t want to preban in the other Eternal formats, or at least say “if any of these break into Legacy and Modern we will ban them then”? Because yeah, the Commander players you want the money from don’t need interesting and effective cards, they’ll just buy anything. 🤦♂️ it’s super petty, but I now officially know what my “if I had a Time Machine” moment is. Give me what attractions and stickers could have been!
MtG players: as a former MtG player and current Yugioh player, I just want you all to know, it doesn't have to be this way. That grass really is greener on the other side. Every banlist, we get to see lots of dumb shit fucking destroyed forever and fun card from the past let out of jail. The lists aren't always perfect, but it's always a lot of fun when they come out. You don't have to suffere the disapointment of reading "no changes" to the banlist of your favorite format being torn to shred by wild dogs.
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"...As commander players, we do not read cards."
A truer statement there never was.
Yeah, commander players know what every card in their deck does with every other card.
There have been multiple instances where a player just straight up doesnt read my commander and then gets confused when I start doing stuff with him out.
In my experience it's card game players in general that don't read lol
Thats me countering a card because it has too much text
@@congriofritoBased
Out of spite against heist decks, I made an "only lands" deck. It will NEVER win against anyone, but it brings me great glee to watch all of their heist cards fizzle.
Cheers to that!
Pro tip: do this with the Slimefoot that gives you cards from a spellbook on landfall. You actually have a chance to win games that way
It has been at least a decade, do man lands still exist? an activated ability on a land that turns it into a creature temporarily. Also that "only lands" is so close to being an Onlyfans pun, I just don't know how to make it work.
@@Zebulization12 in standard according to Scryfall
@@ZebulizationWilds of Eldraine gave us an entire Standard-legal cycle of dual-colour Man Lands
Sorry I was too busy looking at my phone while he was pleading. Whose turn is it?
It's stil your turn you tapped 2 lands and put your hand down can we continue?
I’ve asked 3 times to put a stop on your combat, please play the game.
Mind Goblin living rent free in everyone's head is pretty much the biggest heist of all time if you really think about it.
Meanwhile pauper: All that Glitters is gone
Mind goblin is banned for another problem really (especially in legacy). In theory, if you are running stickers, you are playing goblin prison.
But if you are not running stickers then you are def not running goblin prison unless you run copy spells. Which means, in theory if you are not running stickers pregame, your oponent immeadatly knows that you are nether running copy or goblins.
This creates a problem. And the solution is everybody should be running stickers regardless if they are playing goblins or not, else you are at a infomation disadvantage, andthat is a massive logistical issue.
So basically prisoners dilemma: stickers edition
@@ferdithetank7535 yeah lmao, basically competitively it is correct just to run stickers regardless.
I have heard story of delver midrange mirror both flipping stickers in pregame, it's pretty funny.
MInd Goblin has taken us all for a ride...
I want to like your comment, but 69 likes seems fitting.
The heist mechanic in brawl seems fine. Give it a month and we’ll all forget how strong those cards are. Davriel, Soul Broker brawl commander on the other hand is a menace that deserves a stern rant about it.
Be reasonable now, we all know Mark Rosewater is far more the one to make the mind goblin joke
i saw someone on reddit with photographic evidence that they played an unfinity draft game against maro, but had only their word that maro used a "Mind" sticker on ___ Goblin. i choose to believe them
Next April Fool's day, somebody tweet @# MALD - "Wizards just banned all green cards"
Colossal Dreadmaw strikes again
As a commander player, I just trust that whenever an opponent's card is relevant they'll let me know how much damage I take.
I really hate playing against heist, especially Grenzo. It feels horrible watching my opponent play my best cards for free while I draw a bunch of land. Grenzo is one of the most common commanders I face in brawl. It feels like I'm being forced to run a heavy counterspell deck to deal with it but I hate strategies like that.
Genuine suggestion: run non-exile removal and some reanimate/flashback effects. They're basically just tutoring your cards for you.
@@ColeTrainStudio So they play the card for free and I have to spend 2 cards and however much mana to get it back onto my side? That is just not a winning solution in terms of value or tempo. Plus they are partially in control of what cards I draw.
Someone talked about using a land-only Slimefoot deck. They are perfectly fine not winning with the deck for the trade off of heist players mining salt lol
Yeah and if your the (wrong colors) you just don't have Any thing to stop them from histing you. I think it kinda ruins the hole color wheel. To be fair they already ruined it a while ago. So who's looking forward to the mouth or 6 mouths of the pushed modern masters3 cards?!
@@chrispratt3666 Run more card advantage engines then. Or run Opposition Agent (not sure if this is legal in Brawl). Or cards that punish players for committing crimes. Or cards that make you, the player, untargetable (Leyline of Sanctity, Metropolis Reformer, Shalai). Run cards that stop ETB triggers (hushbringer, huatli's honorguard) or that remove the effects (darksteel mutation, kenrith's transformation). You could also target the Grenzo with cheap removal (speaking of value and tempo); Swords to Plowshares is one mana, Go for the Throat is two mana. Grenzo is six mana, which is not easy to get to, and commander tax will quickly make it unplayable. Land removal also exists; deny their mana. Grenzo may be annoying, but it's not actually all that strong. And like you said, counterspells exist; use them. If you're constantly running into Grenzo, *run answers to it.* I am genuinely baffled by the amount of people that play MtG that *refuse* to play sufficient interaction or adapt to strategies that beat their own.
Heist is three random cards from your deck. Brawl is a singleton format. The likelihood of them always having heist cards and hitting cards from the heist trigger that are useful to their strategy is low. If they're taking the cards you need to be successful every time, then you to diversify your deckbuilding and fill it with more redundancy.
Complaining and disregarding all solutions doesn't solve your problem. If your deck always fails, change it so it doesn't. If you don't like the resulting play patterns, try different solutions. If you don't like any solutions, then switch formats. Or play a card game with play patterns you do like. For example, I've found that I get enjoyment from Flesh and Blood since it provides similar commander-esque play patterns. Plus you can play it completely free online.
Apologies if this seems standoffish, but this sort of mentality--"I don't like this type of playstyle, it shouldn't be in the game"--is the exact reason I stopped playing non-cEDH commander in the first place. Commander players complain more than any other format's players than I've interacted with (and I talk regularly with modern players).
(inb4 the glib 1-2 sentence response that disregards the majority of this comment and fixates on responding to a single point while not effectively debating anything I've said)
Once more I beseech the Lord of Roasts to take a crack at Eight-and-a-Half-Tails. He's my favorite commander
Oh and they banned a thing in pauper
5 whole minutes of recess! Count me in!
So what else did Rod say? Kinda tuned out after that, giddy about recess and all.
They need to sack up and ban the bridges in pauper. Until they do every new affinity card risks a ban
I love this video concept(and would love to see more when they do more ban announcements)
Stickers always did seem like they could be difficult in proper formats but isn't most of the onus on the player who uses them and those have been fine? Moreover I think attractions posed no problem at all so there's like 0 issue to ban those; obscene amounts of tokens are more of a logistical issue than that.
Those silly bans can't stop me and my friends from playing the cards :D We recently got into magic in my 4 friend group, we bought ourselves a 10-15$ decks from a guy on the internet and we havin a blast so far meeting every few evenings for a round or two and some beer
well, yeah. bans don't exist to police kitchen table magic (though they should be used to inform your own house banlist), they exist for the sake of sanctioned play not sucking ass.
1:09 dang no wonder I picked up commander so quickly after playing Yugioh for years.
Man, you took the words from my mouth
Nails are always on point.
please cover Shu Yun, The Silent Tempest or Yasova Dragonclaw
and not a word about glitters.
Out of the choice of this guys family to heist -- did he have to watch each member get yoinked one after another, and if so, who got got first?
That ending slayed me.
Ahh time to bust out the counter deck
Love the wooden spork
What, nothing to say on All That Glitters getting the hammer?
They banned All That Glitters? Why? It's just a voltron card are you serious?
Edit: which format was it banned in? I *might* understand some of the 60 card formats, as long as it isn't banned in commander
@@benjamintim3542 Pauper, objectively the best format.
@ColeTrainStudio okay I guess I can KINDA see it being banned there... I imagine that it gets goofy with all the 1 or zero cost artifacts or ways to make artifacts tokens. Still dumb though.
@@benjamintim3542I don’t play a lot of pauper, I just follow it a bunch and I’d say it’s probably the card I see complaints about the most. It could just swing the game and you could just lose the game out of nowhere, not a fun play pattern.
@@benjamintim3542 Pauper. Yes, the untapped artifact lands have claimed yet another victim, we gotta be at the 6th or 7th card banned for their sins now but they´re so iconic they don´t want to ban them.
0:45 I was not prepared for this quality of acting.
As a commander player who loves taxes that progress the game. Please do Liesa shroud of dusk!
I still a bit weirded out about stickers because it seems fine... on Arena. They already got perpetuity going on so why not just toss some dumb fun in there?
The amazing thing is, it's not on arena. They just did it on paper. Now, as a (rather inexperienced) coder myself, I can understand not putting in stickers and all the acorn cards, but I still feel like there were a lot of great opportunities for fun cards in arena from unfinity!
Because stickers are not an arena only mechanic. They don't want to have cards that are legal on Arena but not legal in paper, in the same format. So, if they want to ban it in a format (e.g. legacy) on paper, it must be banned in that format on Arena.
have you done bruna, fading light?
Day twelve asking you to roast the fourteenth doctor. It's gotten to the point that it's feeling a tad overdramatic, with an electric guitar and sunglasses to boot
Feel a little called out at the end there.
Ok, I want daily MTG news by MaldHound now
But can the Arena balance lead get it?
as someone who really enjoys unsets for their fun and unique gameplay, it was really frustrating seeing them print legal cards in unfinity, and even more frustrating seeing them go back on that decision after the fact now and ban all unfinity cards in black border
Reading is pretty hard
The jokes are actually funny when you're not pretending to thirst over cards...what a concept!
Speaking of bans... ban ratadrabik in brawl
He goes infinite with like 16 cards and the kitchen sink
if you ban him, gotta ban Rusko too, gotta be fair. and Ragavan's punk-ass as well, throw him in there too ;)
But what about All That Glitters in Pauper?
Can he get it?
Surely in such a sharp suit and beard he can.
Rodric you for got to tell them to pre order modern masters.
Use the cattle prod on his sack.
Ey, one more reason playing digital SUUUCKS! 🤣
Now I understand why I’ve been getting heisted for the last week. The absolute surge of grixis decks I’ve been seeing has been devastating for my mental health
This was so funny
>we made a silver border set with goofy logistically unfeasible mechanics tournament legal
>Woops, that was a mistake, they're just silver border again
Was this any surprise?
i do NOT read cards!! 😡😂
That rakdos fuckboy has ruined my day for the past week on arena
im am begging please do a roast on yarok
Love this
Aslo first
Is heist really that bad? I only play brawl that allows it and it's fine but shouldn't it be better to build a deck with good cards instead of hoping your opponent has good cards?
Ah heist...just another reason I stay out of the imaginary Arena formats like Alchemy
Dockside Extortionist lives to extortion another day
Commander banlist is separate and unrelated
In response I'm going to use my vedalken orrery to flash out thieves auction.
SOURCE: I MADE IT THE FUCK UP 😂😂
Wait you're telling me they've been able to read this whole time???
Ah, yes, Alchemy cards. The reason I almost never play Brawl anymore.
Bro didn't even mention all that glitters
Heist is a good mechanic and being salty over it is just like being salty about milk
The next ban list should ban LSV, the -asshole- guy committed serious public indecency by fellating himself on TCGPlayer about how WotC will be rightly scared to try anything innovative because of (alleged) people like him within an hour of the announcement.
Also, can we get B&R to just admit that the only members not playing Re-SCAM-inator are playing Grixis Delver? Grief and Bowmasters have "had our eye on" them for like 10 announcements now, it's the banlist equivalent of "bang, zoom, straight to the moon!" at this point and I can't help but suspect favoritism.
Nah cuz why you lookin so spiffy indubitably fashionable quite posh indeed for an internet media post milord (Scarab God plss)(milord)
Day 2 of Asking for Gonti Uncanny Outlaw
Just need to ban simic and we good
I hope stickers get banned in Commander next tbh
Day 84 for Hoardmaster or Brazen Outlaw Magda, give the Dwarves a CHANCE
Day 42 of asking for Silver Overlord review, with Amoeboid Changling spin to salt because this combo needs to be banned
Arena devs aren't being held hostage, they just dont know how to make cards and whales enable it.
Have any of yall read a reddit thread about arena? The higher ranked the player is, the more they play only to cheat and make the game less fun for their opponents by any means necessary
Im about to just unban everything and start this shit over from scratch fr. Fuck it, bring back Flash.
These people have no idea what theyre doing anyway (and the entire Unfinity set was a huge mistake to begin with, what a massive waste of time, FUCK Saw in Half).
What a bunch of horseshit. We all know Mark Rosewater would never allow his slav...I mean employees speak in front of the camera.
Day 7(?) of asking for Hallar, the firefletcher
Honestly, the outright admission that Stickers and Attractions should have been acorn stamped from the start is really aggravating because of the meaning when considered with the multiple levels of “we made stuff black border so you’d actually buy it”.
You’re telling me stickers and attractions could have been way more goofy and fun but you stripped both of those things because you didn’t want to preban in the other Eternal formats, or at least say “if any of these break into Legacy and Modern we will ban them then”? Because yeah, the Commander players you want the money from don’t need interesting and effective cards, they’ll just buy anything. 🤦♂️ it’s super petty, but I now officially know what my “if I had a Time Machine” moment is. Give me what attractions and stickers could have been!
Mtg pros are just cowards
they bout to make teh same mistakes as yugioh............ they better stop.
Pls pls please please do OBUUN pls please please do OBUUN please please do OBUUN ban because you don’t do OBUUN ;(
Unfinity should have never been legal.
Alchemy formats are awful, so I don't care.
MtG players: as a former MtG player and current Yugioh player, I just want you all to know, it doesn't have to be this way. That grass really is greener on the other side. Every banlist, we get to see lots of dumb shit fucking destroyed forever and fun card from the past let out of jail. The lists aren't always perfect, but it's always a lot of fun when they come out. You don't have to suffere the disapointment of reading "no changes" to the banlist of your favorite format being torn to shred by wild dogs.
all alchemy mechanics are dumb and over powered.
they have pretty much ruined arena for me personally.
"as commander players, we do not read cards"
Just something else magic stole from Yu-Gi-Oh