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DolphinDos (and JiffyDos) on Ultimate64
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2019
- How to install DolphinDos2.0 (and JiffyDos) on an Ultimate64 running firmware version 1.18.
6:52 installation of dolphin dos
Download DolphinDos2.0 from here:
rr.c64.org/rrwiki/images/3/3e/...
rr.c64.org/wiki/Dolphin_DOS
Make sure you use the Dolphin_DOS/c1541-6.rom file. And select a memory option in the 1541 settings of the Ultimate64 that gives you 8K at $6000 to $8000.
JiffyDos can be aquired from here:
www.go4retro.com/products/jiff...
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Awesome video. Many thanks for your help, managed to get this sorted finally! Recently upgraded to the new 1.41 firmware and had nothing but trouble and it was your video that explained the extra RAM for the drive and enabling the parallel cable that fixed it.
Glad I could help :)
Thanks for the instructions in the description. I installed the ROMs on my Ultimat 64, but didn't realize I needed to set the memory option. I went ahead and used the 40K setting, and it seems to work great.
Thanks, that's good to hear. You can type @XF- and @XF+ to turn the fast load routines on and off.
Great video! Very useful for those of us who have already acquired the Ultimate64! Keep doing videos like this one!
Thanks. If it helps one person get more out of their Ultimate64 then I'll be happy.
Thanks, I just installed this and the difference is amazing. So fast!
Good! Glad it was useful. There's no way back :)
Finally, I am catching up on your videos, albeit in reverse order. This was a great demo. I have never had any hands-on time with an Ultimate64; it is very configurable, indeed. And wow, _speed_ _increase_ is an understatement! I recently purchased a ZoomFloppy from Jim Brain at RETRO Innovations. ZoomFloppy has "parallel access hardware support" so I imagine it would work with a DolphinDos. Hmmm.
Haha..wonderful. I've heard of this ZoomFloppy product before. I imagine that it would be just as fast, if not faster than Dolphin (which was invented decades ago).
I've learned today though, that installing the DolphinDos Kernal in your C64 would remove Datasette support.
@@TheHighlander71 Ah, removal of datasette support. That's more interesting to me than you might think ... to be revealed in an upcoming video, at some point.
@@MindFlareRetro It not so much of a problem when you can switch Kernals, but it's quite something to lose tape support on a real c64. I'm curious now!
What other kernal replacements exist? Not just drive speed boosters, per se. I'm already aware of exos, speeddos, pro-v1, and other speed kernals. What about tools or diagnostics? Editors? Programming IDE?
That's a good question. Besides all the speed loaders, people have largely thought of things that made life easier as a programmer or a user. But nothing I've seen was along the lines of actual editors or assemblers (imagine!!). I think all of them sacrifice the tape and RS232 routines. This created a lot of space. As far as I know nothing much more useful than speedloaders were made. Perhaps someone else can prove me wrong..hope so :)
I have DolphinDos 3. I don't know what was changed but it's also very quick
I think DolphinDos3 was a non-official release. Not sure what changed either, but I'm sure I read it somewhere.
I have had the U2+ for over a year but found it not plug and play. The U64 is amazing but I thought about being first in line but have waited this past 16 months. I am somewhat alone here in my area without any support. But I have lots C64 gadgets. This video explains a great deal of the nuances of the fast loading issue. I have Jiffy on one C64C and a CMD HD and SD2iec so Jiffy still has place. My 1581 is fast to load GEOS etc but am still missing out on U2+/U64. Thanks for letting me vent. lol
I suppose the 1541Ultimate does have a lot of functions, and you can fidget with it endlessly. Personally I just have a micro-sd inside and I use it to load games. But let's face it, a bit of documentation would be nice wouldn't it?
Sixteen months is long. Have you contacted Gideon on Facebook about that? The waiting times are long, but this sounds extreme.
I've actually never used JiffyDos they way it was intended (as a hardware install) so I'm glad to be able to try it like this.
Thanks for watching, vent all you like :)
@@TheHighlander71 I afraid we are not on the same page as I did not order it but U2+ I did. At the time I took the cheaper option. BTW I do not regret it one bit as it is more complicated than the C64 lol. I have lots to keep me busy. I am enjoying my retirement and got a great physical yesterday from my DR. At 70 I am in 5 star health!!! C64 enjoy!! PS I got Jones's Amiga Checkmate 1500 case coming so no letting the days go by.
@@herbmyers805 Ah ok..I think the U2+ production was put on the back burner when the Ultimate came out. I hope your order comes through quickly. Enjoy your health, it's one of the most precious things you have. I've been following that Amiga case development a bit, but I'm not so much an Amiga fan. But I've taken a first step: I've downloaded WinUAE.
Great video. Just put dolphins dos on my U64 elite. So fast now. Got carried away and did the first 4 levels of Last Ninja Remix. Had to stop as England 6 nations is about to start
Thanks! Glad to hear people are getting joy out of Dolphin Dos. There's no going back!
Wow shows you how long since I loaded anything without an accelerator loaded on the C64, over a minute to load something from a floppy disc! I believe I was spoilt both with my original Spectravideo's 5 1/4"drives and the 3 1/2" drives that followed.
I never had loading times like this. Nuts!!
Thank you so much !!! History, therory and practice, it’s all crystal clear !!!!!
Thank you, I hope it's helpful.
It's really usefull dude ! Without you i would even not have considered using these alternative kernels on My Ultimate 64. Plus Even if i knew about them, i did not really know what they were meant for and how to configure them. After having watched your video i can see there are some parameters you can't guess. It's very uncommon to see such great quality videos covering a topic in such a very efficient way. It's not only about how we do it, but what it's meant for, where it's coming from, etc. What else ? I'm pretty sure (even if oviously you must have spent lots of time to make it so comprehensive) you could produce an impressive series of videos for the Ultimate 64 ! Thank you so much again ;)
Thank you. The main reason for me making videos like this is the obvious and rather painful lack of documentation. Making the Ultimate products a bit of a tinkerer's world. Which is a shame because Gideon has put a lot of thought into his products!
Awesome video, Ultimate 64 menus have changed in latest version of the firmware, but could easily find and edit the settings. DolphinDOS 2.0 - 6 with 40kB RAM works fine. I found several kernal roms here: rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Dolphin_DOS the Kernal_ROM_all_rr.c64.org_2011-06.rar file contains several kernals with documentation
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. When I made it I was positive it would be outdated by firmware upgrades. Good to hear it still sort of holds up.
would you recommend this for 1541 ultimate II user? i only ask as i think it loads pretty bloody fast anyway.
I would, but I'm not sure if you actually can. First of all the C64 you have the 1541Ultimate connected to must also have JiffyDos ROMs installed. Otherwise it's just not going to work. I'm also not sure if the 1541Ultimate can set the memory requirements and the parallel cable setting like the Ultimate64 can. I would assume it does, because the 1541 emulation on the Ultimate64 is the same as on the 1541Ultimate.
@@TheHighlander71 ok cheers :)
I realize this is an older video and I used to swear by JiffyDOS but holy cow DolphinDOS is crazy fast. I'm using it now on my Ultimate 64. I wonder if it's possible to use on the Ultimate Plus II cartridge
Yeah, the speed increase is essential isn't it?
I'm not sure if the 1541Ultimate can do it. It could load the required 1541 ROM and possible select the extra RAM, but I'm not sure about the required parallel cable setting. You would also have to connect it to a C64 with the JiffyDos ROM of course.
Question: If i flash JiffyDos (Kernal and 1541-II) on my Ultimate 2+L cartridge can i still use cartridge ROM'S at the same time ... like a Final Cartridge III ? Thanks for this great informative video. BTW - links do not work anymore - anywhere else to get the ROMS?
Yeah you can use cartridges just fine, but I don't think JiffyDos will work unless you can enable the parallel cable right? I have no idea how to use JiffyDos with the U2+L
@@TheHighlander71 Yes, your are right and i will go for the DolphinDOS as you showed in the video. But when i try to download the archive is broken - i have winRAR but it says the file is broken. Weird.
@@HeliZero That happens sometimes. It may help to just download it again? These roms are still commercially available so you should be able to get a proper copy.
@@TheHighlander71 Thanks - well i fiddled with it a little and istead of WinRAR i used WinZIP - and that worked - it unpacked all files so later today i will try to make my Ultimate 2+L to run DolphinDOS. Some menus are not the same as on your video with the U64 board. Regards from Denmark.
@@HeliZero let me know how that goes.
Wow 3s loading time! Adding kernal image to the memory and via cartridge is interesting in itself. Hardware vice it is not straight forward. Interesting video!
I didn't know anything about these kernal upgrades, but they are interesting concepts. Utilising ram in the 1541 and a parallel cable on the user port for data transmission. Smart stuff.
there is no tape support in dolphindos (2.0), or at least its not turned on by default if there is any.
True. The tape loading routines are removed in the ROM. I may not have known that when I made this video.
I just recently tested that with c64 core in mister. by random chance.@@TheHighlander71
Always steered away from dolphin and jiffy dos under the understanding that compatibility would be low. Just like with that ‘Blue’ alternative disk drive back in the day. Was very reluctant altering my c64 and or drive on the inside. Resorted to using fastloading carts, speeding up tape 10x and disk 5x but that was software only.
Back in the day I used to dream about the legendary 1Mb 1001 drive.
I don't know about compatibility, but one drawback is that there's no more tape support in the updated Kernal. On the Ultimate it's no problem switching between Kernals. I'll keep an eye out for compatibility problems...
Excellent, thank you
Glad it was helpful.
Thank you so much. It is very useful video.
Thanks you! Glad it helped.
Nice tutorial Wouter!
Thanks Mark. You should totally get an Ultimate for yourself!
Very impressive!
Isn't it?
Shift + the pound key gets you out of that GCS routine.
Oooohhhh that information is worth gold! I've been wanting to know that for as long as I've played that game. Thank you!
Thx a lot for your very helpfull vid !!!! you rulllleeeeezzzz ;)
Stéphane Miget Ah, so glad it was useful. Thanks for letting me know.
DolphinDos is crazy fast. Reads an entire track in 1 pass, then sends the data over the parallel cable. There are faster options available that read & transfer in one rotation, but they all blank the screen to do it, and most of them require you to rewrite a disk in their proprietary format and/or have the file written with an alternate sector interleave. DolphinDOS has none of these drawbacks, and can be used on commonly available disk images and will give you maximum speed.
JiffyDOS is a great product, is still being sold, doesn't blank the screen, IS dependent on file interleave, but works with real hardware as well as the U64. (Its very, very difficult to get DolphinDOS hardware for real machines.)
great thankyou very much
You're very welcome.
The GCS are not making you wait, the game was decompressing ! Good vid tho
Hmm, that's a good explanation. Someone else said that Shift + the pound key breaks out of the animation. I haven't tried it yet :)
I love the video on jiffydos, what an effect. Why not have released a C64T with the speed issue fixed. Any shot of comparing emulation load, to jiffy for hogs like Raid On Bungling Bay ? I watched today the C64 Mini review by Face Destroyer (he is a bit like Alpha Omega Sin in the ranting ) He has such trouble with the cheap joystick that he yells an shouts angry noises, wrecking the video and leaving the viewers with questions about a $30 item, when he could buy a proper joystick for the video, a cheap Genesis controller, so a BIG BIG skip. Mini company needed to buy up generic genesis Dpad controllers for it.
The quality of the joystick that comes with the mini has been an issue from the very start. Hardly something to make a video about (unless you're hungry for views by drama of course). Most of these mini consoles are criticised for not being flexible enough. The C64 mini is (or was) the cheapest, most extendible and best supported console on the market. Let's rant about its bad joystick.
I'm going to try Raid on Bungling Bay..I'm curious now :)
Tried loading Bungeling Bay with Dolphin Dos..From first load to play took less than 30 seconds.
@@TheHighlander71 Top 10 Slow loaders for the c64...vs jiffy dos. 30 seconds is great. Software speed-loaders, the one by Epyx, did not fare well with 'Raid' + other titles that loaded even during the game at various times. All the code usually needed to load in one shot to work. The Mini scream-fest appears to be in service of 'Angry Nerd Comedy' from all the nice comments. Perhaps a send-up of the enraged reviewer.
It says 386 views xD
Ein 20 Minuten Video um etwas zu demonstrieren, was man auch in 5 Minuten hätte zeigen können!
Anstatt darüber zu jammern, kannst du auch selbst ein besseres Video machen.
@@TheHighlander71 Nö, ich kritisiere lieber!
@@TheGraphix71 talk is cheap