Why "Democratic" Socialism Doesn't Work
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- "Democratic" Socialism. What is it really? And does it even work.
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I live pretty well here in Norway.
and? We live well here in the USA as well... and we are the only superpower left on Earth... not to mention we are the UN. lol.
Ye since Russia, China, The UK and france dont have Vetoes (or how ever you spell it) You aren't the UN you are a part of the UN. So is Norway aswell. My point was he said Democratic socialism doesnt work. But from my point of view it works pretty fucking well. I agree with Crowder on most and I am not a socialist or a democratic socialist myself but saying it never works is false. When I was in the gutter not being able to find a job the state helped me until I got one. Not much I lived on 50 bucks a week but it was enough for me to survive until I got one.. I dont call that a failed state. Especially when we have so much money in the "oil fund" to sustain us for two decades without more earnings.
elektabuzz Besides getting invaded by Germany, and having a population of less than Colorado... and having a teeny tiny GDP when compared to the USA.... what has Norway done for the world?
Also do you think that veto power has any sway over the USA? The USA is the single highest contributor to the UN and is the only nation that kept Russia at bay during the cold war. The USA is also the sole surviving superpower on Earth.
We invented chemical fertilizer which saved millions off lives in the 3rd world. Aswell as revolutionized farming. Also having a small population doesnt mean the country is less sucess full if that was true China would be way more powerfull then America. I am not saying the U.S is bad dude all I said is norway aint bad either.
I'm just saying that your claim of America "Being the UN" is abit pretentios seing as China, Russia, France and the UK could shut your propsals to the UN down when ever they feel like. Why do you think the UN is so innefective in the first place?
Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands must not work by your definition.
Exactly what I was guna comment, (I'm Danish) I was like "bernie can you not use us for your gain?"
How's that "Multiculturalism" going for you over there?
Asaggy Noodle I'm Canadian ;)
Well considering we Dont have to keep 1% of our population in prison, pretty good.
Asaggy Noodle I think Canada is more diverse than America…
6:32 “America is NOT a Democracy... so long as we have the Constitution...”
Thank you Steven! We are a Constitutional Republic!
Ok, so this is not a democracy.
Yay the original constitution!
Fuck amendments, potential and current!
@@haruyukilafferty5418
Bruh
Yeah, but it still SHOULD be run democratically. Otherwise, what's the point?
Most republics are democracies, including America.
"Do we get vacation time?"
"Your job is a vacation from poverty."
To be fair it's kinda nice to take a break every once in a while. :D But do you deserve mandatory PAID vacation?
Heck, under socialism, the systems are so rigid, you can't even ask for unpaid time off.
@@liwendiamond9223 Yes you can. It's called LEAVE OF ABSENCE.
@DarkSpitter : As Oliver Twist once said, " Please sir, I want some more. " You are a classic example of why we have Unions - thank God !
@Tempest Fury My Union ( S.E.I.U. ) made it possible for me, ( a Worker ) to travel the world and stay in five star hotels while doing so, gave me a great benefit package ( like seven paid weeks of vacation a year ) buy a house, got me a cadillac of a pension plan and gave me the opportunity to tell bullying bosses to BACK OFF ! Now what was that about Unions doing nothing for you ?
@Mo Fuggar Certainly, NOT the Union, ( S.E.I.U. ) I was a member of ! We fought many many many battles with the bosses ( and won or had satisfactory compromises with them ) Negotiated wage and benefit increases with them and much more ! There is PLENTY of money out there ! Now I live in COMFORTABLE retirement THANKS SOLEY TO MY UNION !
Ben Shapiro should go undercover and mess with Steven during a change my mind
Umm, hmm, why?
Mike Sharp it would be funny
Yes... This should form the rip upon time and space that will allow me access to my dimension.
It would be funny if ben played devils advocate and messed with steven
he would not be able to keep a straight face.
The difference between socialism and ' "democratic" socialism ', or as we progressives call, 'social democracy', is, quite literally, the difference between Cuba and Norway. That's all you need to know.
entertain7us14 they still have the same mindset... it's a matter of years that something is going to plunge
Trump Same mindset?
Just a wild claim, no evidence whatsoever.
Do you understand the impact of social authoritarianism or lack thereof on the overall health of a nation?
entertain7us14 socialism is the first stage of creating a communist economy and culture. First comes capitalism then the middle ground (socialism) then communism. In order for one political party who wants to reach the state of a communism economy it must start off with socialism. So yes, socialism isn't as bad as communism but that's only because it's the first step into having a communist economy.
Trump Except it's not. With that logic, you could argue conservative/traditional values are the first stage to Nazism.
Parties don't automatically lead to more extreme versions of themselves. You're totally ignoring the importance of social policy. You can have an economically socialist nation (free education for all, free health care for all, a living wage that combats income inequality, tax cuts for the middle class and increased taxes on the rich, a strong middle class, protectionism, etc.) that still functions democratically and allows personal freedoms - that is, opposition is allowed, free speech and voting is a right, capitalism, drugs and guns are allowed with sensible regulations, and people are allowed to do whatever they want with their personal lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.
You can't seriously argue that 10 years from now Norway will be the Soviet Union.
entertain7us14 again I'm saying it's the middle ground in between capitalism and communism. If you can keep it attainable then you will have have the socialist type of economy you are looking for, but things could get out of hand and a more communist mindset grows on people who live in a socialist culture. That is something I'm not willing to try as myself being a millennial, but I now lots would give it a go. The problem I have with it though is that it's almost like some sort of animal enclosure. If you keep feeding the animals then they wont learn to live off what they were genetically put on earth to do and wreak havoc on the people because the people are failing to keep them satisfied.
Capitalism promotes working hard and working smart, socialism promotes working bare minimum
Capitalism works because it is human nature to work hard and improve their life. Socialism fails because it is human nature to try and avoid work... wait can i start over?
@@ankmamma688 I can't even comprehend how anyone can still support socialism after all the countries who have failed under it they must be Americans to think this way because they have a voice to say it unlike real socialist countries who censor anyone who has an independent voice stupid ass people
Hass C How do you I don’t just support some socialist ideas and policies
@@ankmamma688 Exactly, this is why socialism looks great on paper, but leads you to your doom on practice. Humans are complex, and socialism neglects that, basically dehumanizing everybody who experiences it. We deserve our humanity!
David Konevky Huh? I wasn’t saying anything about socialism, I was just showing how dumb the argument is
7:01 Many people don't know this but Venezuela nationalized all industries, not just their oil industries, and within a YEAR of nationalizing their steel industry Venezuelan steel output decreased 75%!
The only reason their economy stayed afloat was because oil prices kept going up but when they inevitably went down the economy went with them
Socialism doesn't work
Sammuel Parris wish people had common sense to know this
Well Norway nationalized oil industries,
Can you tell me what is wrong with that.
Now the Government and all the people have all the money from the oil.
Instead of some foreign companies.
And the government owns more than 30 % of all the companies in Norway.
We have Social Democracy, and after what I have read, it is some kind of socialism.
And we have been
no 1 in Political Freedom,
no 1 in Press freedom,
no 1 in Prosperity
and we have a higher GDP
Norway 74,356
GDP
United States 62,606 GDP
We have more start ups pr capita than USA.
There is a lot of socialist systems.
So socialism doesn't work?
When you talk about Venezuela, they are not socialistic, They are a dictatorship .
Can you tell me the difference between
working Private and for the Government?
There is none!
Look at your Fire department, The Police,
The Post, The Army etc
They are all socialistic.
"Socialism is a political ideology that wants the means of production to be owned by a community, either through the public, state or cooperative.
Supporters of socialism see increased public and or democratic involvement in society as a means of achieving what they see as justice and positive freedom.
Socialism promotes the management of the economy, and is skeptical of private business interests and profit motives.
Supporters of socialism, unlike supporters of capitalism and liberalism, have a negative view of free markets, as they consider them to make a distinction between rich and poor."
@mrbobbilly
You have some socialism in USA as well, The Army, The Post, The Police,
The Fire dept etc.
But can you tell me what`s the difference between working Private and for the State?
There is no one.
In Norway we have Social Democracy
And the state owns more than 30 % of
the jobs . And all the oil.
We have more start ups per capita than
USA,
and Norway have 74,356
GDP,
United States 62,606 GDP
We have more Freedom,
We are no 1 in Press Freedom
no 1 in Political Freedom
and even the Police don`t wear
guns.
And we have 5-8 weeks of Paid Vacation,
and the laws says we have to take it,
We have Free Health Care
We have Free Schools
We have 1 Year Paid Maternity leave
We have max 38 hours work week
When you work for a Private Company,
The money goes to the owner.
But when you work for the Government,
the money goes to you and all of the people.
And when you talk about your car and house.
I have a house and a car, but I am not using
the car much.
I like to take a boat or a train.
There I can sit down and relax,
sleeping, looking at my PC etc.
And there is large There are great demonstrations by children against car driving and pollution, all around Europe.
We have also Fly Shame.
People in Europe understand that we destroy the nature.
@mrbobbilly
I forgot, I said we had Free Healths Care, Free Schools,
5-8 Weeks Paid Vacation
1 year Paid Maternity Leave etc
What have you got?
I know your Health Care is very, expensive. 62 % don`t dare to go to the doctor, afraid of the bills. It will never happen in Europe.
Or anywhere else in the modern world,
besides the USA
Instead of complaining about socialism, look at your own system and what you get out of it, and compare.
Norway`s Government Nationalize our Oil,
now we all have the biggest fund in he world.
It's about which politicians we have in the government.
Whether they work for the people or their own wallet
So we have a form of socialism, but we do great,
because of the right people.
We are no 1 in Political Freedom, No 1 in Press Freedom
So Socialism do work, with the right people.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.”
-Ronald Reagan.
So Jesus is in hell cuz he’s socialist. He help people free of charge. Lolz
@@joeyson5 Lol not everyone that helps people free of charge are Socialist. x)
EuphoricBliss @ that is what you called capitalist. But you already know that. What you prefer: capitalist that only work for self-interest or socialist that can work for everyone!
You're quoting the same imbecile who said Medicare would turn Americans into slaves.
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@@marlock6573 And...it kind of did.
I live in a third world country named Brazil.
We had "democratic" socialism for almost a century. It made our lives miserable and horrible.
I live in Venezuela, a country with a socialist regime which has done expropriation of lands, businesses and other properties through violent hordes who took the establishments to manage and destroyed production, so now there is a chronic shortage of food and medicine, with price, production, distribution, buy and sell controls; insecurity that makes us be the second most violent country in the world, overcome only by Honduras; and all in context of press censorship and a discourse of hatred that divided us as Venezuelans.
+halafradrimx Corruption and crime made your country a shithole not socialism
+Gabriel Flaubert Socialism/communism is CLASS warfare it uses this to divide and conquer
Well in Brazil and in a lot of Latin American countries corruption is through the roof . In Brazil your president is being I think charged with corruption for laundering money. And we'll Venezuela corruption again lol. And as and Honduran well I can tell you that El Salvador has recently surpassed us in violent crime. Socialism is not bad it's the person in power.
Well what the hell is next Brazil and Venezuela. You guys have had several massive protests for years now. You gotta take them out by force if necessary.
Capitalism: “Gods way of seeing who is smart or who is poor” - Ron Swanson
Smart capitalists petition the government to get their taxes reduced.
That's not accurate at all
@@marytenney1168 Woosh
@@DavidP089 I think you're the one being r/whooshed here. Ron Swanson is literally meant to be a comic parody of Libertarians, and everything he says concerning capitalism mocks what actual conservatives have said in the past. There are plenty of people who are poor and smart, plenty who are dumb and rich, and many who do not earn much money despite the immense effort of their work (ie. janitors).
@@redwater4778 taxes should be reduced for people in general. Capitalism doesn't advocate for bailing out corporations or even taxing only one Community.
People confuse Keynesian economics as a whole as capitalism when despite the fact Keynes was far from w supporter of free Market. Private ownership for sure but his policies led to crony Capitalism.
He did the meme. 'Socialism is when the government does stuff'
and when it does a real lot of stuff its communism.
Call me stupid but where does that joke come from?
That seems to be the standard for socialists whenever it’s convenient to you. But when we say it, it’s “conservitard doesn’t understand Carl Marks”
@@dylancarl1438 Die hard conservatives filled by year of capitalist propaganda that don’t know the definition of capitalism
@@toxicmurdererr7597 wow you sound like a fun person to be around...
So many of these comments are like, "He's so stupid how can people believe this he's so wrong blah blah blah" but then they fail to point out how he is stupid or wrong. Typical.
Agreed
because he labels socialism and communism as the same - they are not. he says democrats like to give stuff away for free, not true, they just delegate tax money differently. not to mention, social security and welfare were put in place by a president on the Republican ticket. he is in favor of greed and selfishness. he's says the liberals are the greedy, yet they are willing to use their assets to help, yet the conservative says "mine is mine, don't touch". this guy is good at one thing, telling opinions in a way they sound like fact.
+AndHoldTheMayo he's against democracy so he is wrong perid
+AndHoldTheMayo Truth. "HES AN IDIOT" "Ok, why?" "HE DIDNT PROMISE TO SEND ME TO COLLEGE OR GIVE ME FREE SH*T"
+AndHoldTheMayo He is wrong because many countries today like Germany, Norway, Sweden, etc. Use democratic socialism and they're doing much better than the U.S. at the moment. He can say all he wants about how shitty socialism is but it's not shitty when those countries have less unemployment, less incarceration rates, and less crime. He is just flat out wrong period.
"Liberty without socialism is privilege and injustice. Socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality" -Mikhail Bakunin
If done correctly, socialism can work perfectly. You just need that large dash liberty and liberalism
Wow, so how are the unicorns in your world of cotton candy and cool aid?
+William Spencer it's true. Look at Canada, Australia, and the U.K.
zach kelly
, Yes, in UK a woman with breast cancer can not get certain life lengthening medications even if she is willing to pay. Health care in Canada was so inefficient that they began offering a free market alternative to it.
With emphesis on liberty. Otherwise you'll end up with what we've got in Sweden.
As a 21 yo romanian seeing that the US wishes to become socialist is scarry
It doesn't, way too many idiots that don't understand democratic socialism. It works in Australia and we're awesome.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg boi. Its like you haven't watched the video. Its never, ever going to work.
Sorry bud
@@GlobalBricks1 mate, it litterally allready does. Australia is like America without most of the bad stuff. Also the Scandinavian countries.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg Scandinavian countries aren't socialist even one of the president of one of the Scandinavian countries (Sweden i think) said that they aren't a socialist country.
@@edonshatri6446 democratic socialism.
Oxymoronic: democratic socialism.
Why
@@TRIBOY16 no, people should get a job, get insurance, stop complaining, and enjoy the superior healthcare of a privatized system. You do realize that a hospital will treat you no matter what, right? It's not like you need to have money in your pocket to get medical care, not to mention the fact that there are already tons of programs to help whoever needs it, by either reducing costs, or taking care of the costs entirely. There is no excuse for why anyone in America wouldn't be able to afford healthcare, you're just lazy and entitled. If you want to be lazy and entitled, then yeah, stay your ass home and suffer.
Genesis64 or maybe if you weren’t previously a disgusting slob and had a job rather than milking off the government. you would be able to pay for your medical bills? Just maybe.
@The Hooded Claw are you the only one paying tax?
@@TRIBOY16 life's not fair lol
Social Security was paid into by the workers. It's not FREE.
Actually about a 3rd of it is borrowed money that has to be paid back one day.
If it's really yours why don't you ask for it early? Why can't you opt out? Give the government and inch as they say.
@@outtolunch2834 Exactly, nobody "owns" public goods or assets. A small cliche control everything when the government is involved. Theoretically I'm a part owner in the public bus service. Good luck trying to borrow one the weekend for a trip away. ;-)
Here's the rule: If you don't control the asset, you don't own the asset.
Billy Bob ... A cold beer for you....
Social security was paid into by real working americans,,,democrats changed it to let's use it to give free stuff for votes,,,,,yes I worked and paid for almost 50 years,,so it's not an entitlement for me ,,,but for many others it's free stuff ,vote 4 me. Take from the rich give to poor,,,go rob a bank,,,,give the money to the poor,,,,,then you get free room and board. Federal prison,,,unless you are a politician
8 Year's in College for Gender Studies?!?! Bro, should be two day's, one day for Male, one day for female, not hard.
Anthony Ramos you could probably fit it all in one day
Two days!? You managed to fit that in a single sentence.
Pfffffft, what about the 70 other genders? Huh? HUH?
Anthony Ramos it won't show you that I gave your remark a thumbs down. 👎🏻 I thought you'd like to know.
But what if you identify as an attack helicopter? Two days are clearly not enough.
The job description of the government is in it's name itself, 'to govern', not to run it's citizens' lives.
then wtf are republican politicians doing banning abortion, trying to illegalise gay marriage and banning transgender people from the military?
kinda looks like the right is trying to run it's citizens lives.
@@peepeetrain8755 Transgender people cannot serve in the military because of strategic concerns, Republicans aren't trying to ilegalize homosexual marriage, and Republicans are trying to ban abortion because it is the murder of a child in the womb.
"But- but- what about the free public education system?"
Yep! That's an example of how socialism fails too! Any others you can think of?
How about Alaska after socializing their oil profits? Each Alaskan gets a check every month because they didn't allow the oil companies to come in and freely loot their natural resources. The US military is also highly socialized and pays for education and training as well.
@@ConsciusVeritasVids Yes, and complaints about the military's over-spending never cease, especially from the left. Who knows how much more efficient that could be, if we could find a practical way to invite healthy competition for funds that could be given rather than stolen (and funneled through countless middle men).
And it's hard to count Alaska's decisions with oil as "socialism". Wouldn't it be more like socialism to take what Alaska has by force and pass it around to all the other states? Or how bout having a single provider for our oil, run by the government? Would prices go down or up?
Unchecked capitalism is just a market full of snake oil.
@@dxthakid4727 And the government to "check" capitalism is just a bunch of honest-to-goodness saints 😉
@Dro Plant an unregulated market just hurts consumers in the end. It's happened with cigarettes, loan sharks, volkswagen, the sugar industry, asbestos and much more. The illusion that companies benefit when consumers benefit is based on some perfect world where all companies are ethical. Companies benefit when they make a profit, not when consumers do. In most of those cases, misinforming the public helped turn a profit instead of benefitting the consumer.
Capitalism can be good however. If we regulate the power of corporations. Corporatism, a product of capitalism, should be regulated. Our own democracy is just becoming an illusion now. An average citizen isn't going to have as much influence as a billionaire/corporation, paying millions in dark money.
capitalists are never happy. nordic countries are the happiest countries in the world
You can't compare the two because of how small and homogeneous states.They are not even socialist, they have a market economy
minizeus002 Yes, and democratic socialism MEANS market economy. It does not mean central planning. It means basic social rights and a few more things funded by government. That's it.
The biggest political party in Sweden, which has ruled the country for the majority of the 20th century and is in charge right now is the social democratic party.
Nordic countries ARE capitalist, every first world country is. Without capitalism, they would have nothing to fund their social programs.
RoboticsNShenanigans Noone says they arent. Democratic socialism is a hybrid. Thats What were trying to say.
My mind cannot comprehend how anyone would buy into socialism.
+Karl Hiramanek no sane good-willing person would buy into socialism. that is why socialist lie to get young people into their worldview. that is the reason why you see a lot of young people supporting socialism but failing to correctly define it.
+Alvaro Ayque The first step is always to control the education of the youth and the spread of information (media)
+Karl Hiramanek i dont get what youre saying
+Karl Hiramanek are you american?
TheWaross yes and proud
As a Libertarian, many of my views overlap with conservatives.
I love your videos Crowder.
Basically every one of your videos from the past decade are still extraordinarily relevant.
Especially the "If you dont listen, men with guns will take you away".
For anyone interested, i recommend Dennis Pratt, he writes a a lot of great, well researched arguments as a Libertarian as well.
libertarian another garbage thing, fact.
Libertarianism is an objectively shit idea.
@@charlieoshea931 The base principles of Libertarianism are pretty close to the spirit of the Declaration and Constitution. Many Libertarians take and extend the principles too far though and come to a very wacky place where police and military become mercenaries for hire. In some ways we're there now but at least they are loyal to this country, not the highest bidder.
Libertarian as in the independent party? Or is that something different cause I’m and independent
@@ponderrous2659 What you described is Anarchal Capitalism genius.
Mr. Crowder, so glad you’re an American. A proud American at that. A true blessing and citizen.
i always thought he was Canadian ?
@Suicide Moses he was but converted 😊 He apparently became a naturalized citizen of America 🇺🇸
@Reggie Cyde What funded the expansion west ? Was it direct government involvement or did capitalists fund it ?
@Reggie Cyde The capitalists move in after the infrastructure is built . Nice try though
@Reggie Cyde A government has to exist if you have a country . The government has two sources of revenue. Corporate tax and people tax.
Government will build infrastructure that the capitalists do use . In return tax is paid
So many leftist trolls making non-arguments.
You must be doing something right Steven, keep up the good work.
bingo
Or you just refuse to read their sound arguments because every except for you is wrong.
+Spygerman
Feel free to make one yourself if you would like to try.
+Brock Samson Love your work! I absolutely love how you stick to your guns or knife I mean! You are my hero!
+Spygerman Sound HAHA argue HAHA ments HAHAHA. HAHAHA can't catch my breath HAHAHA. Good joke!
Ben Shapiro should host a change my mind
Someone might actually shoot him
he can't even speak at scheduled events, I doubt he will be safe just arriving.
No one would show up. They all fear the Hammer 😂🔨🔨
The only problem is that he's an ignorant bigot.
@@MrMucc Lololol no.
From my understanding, traditional socialism means that some random dictator can come along and take your money "for the greater good." Democratic socialism is just the same thing but its a majority of people deciding whether they can take your money.
Yes. Basically the CCP
@@marcosvega3519 you literally know NOTHING about socialism
@@thekingpatb9286 oh yea. My bad. Socialism has always worked and has made societies into utopias. I forgot they’re all over the place. My apologies
@@marcosvega3519 and capitalism has also worked out great
@@marcosvega3519 socialism “fails” because the US ensures it does. Everywhere socialism is tried, the CIA creates a coup, assassinates leaders, influences elections, places sanctions, invades/bombs the country & destabilizes it, etc.
I’m guessing Bernie Sanders read some Shakespeare and tried to come up with a better oxymoron.
Scandinavian countries aren't even socialistic countries so I don't see why people keep bringing that word up
They may not be socialist in the traditional Stalinist sense of the word socialist. However, they do have socialist qualities. Universal healthcare, public education, government owned law enforcement, military, and justice system. Don't get me wrong. I don't think Scandinavian governments are intentionally starving people, inflating the currency to where it's basically worthless, or forcing you to work the same wages as someone else for a more skill intensive job. In fact, on the scale of the most economically free nations, Germany, Norway, and Finland are in the "mostly free" category with the US, United Kingdom, and Canada. While this is a good beginning, we should all strive to be Switzerland, Australia, Singapore, and Hong Kong., which is the completely free category. Hong Kong in particular, has zero tariffs in place, and zero natural resources, but is still the most prosperous nations on the planet. According to heritage.org, they have a high-quality legal framework, which provides effective protection of property rights, and a strong support of the rule of law, and continues to be the cornerstone of strength in this dynamic city. Regulatory efficiency, and openness to global commerce is what sustained this city for a long period of time, also being coupled with the fact that this is China's most significant transit point to and from China.
Link: www.heritage.org/index/ranking
It'a actually more than that, they also have significantly higher tax rates and their market has a very high degree of central control. Also, they're part of the EU, which on it's own means that they have to subscribe to an enormous amount of regulations.
McEgge well, being a citizen of sweden you are indeed right, we are not a socialist country. However. We are heavily influenced by socialist policies.
Scandinavia isn't real socialism
McEgee so true. They simply have super high tax rates for middle to middle/high income earners.
well, it definitely doesn't work in a fascist oligarchy like the usa.
Wurst König how is it facist? Do you know what it means, it do you use it as a buzzword.
Facefish
how is a racist self glorifying megalomaniac warmonger nation not fascist?
*****
well, that's why all the top countries in europe are at their core socialistic (germany, finland, denmark, sweden, uk, france, etc). it's evil? fine, i'll take my evil with affordable single payer health care, free education and employment protection laws.
Why did you reply to him?
Look at his name!
His name is 'evil' c'mon...
It's called trolling.
Wurst König and limited rights, if u think it's that much better than why don't u live there
Role of us govt:
"He protect
He attack
He wants to make sure the illegals never come back"
More like he protec, he attac but most importantly he stages coups against socialist to replace them with right wing diktats
@@patrickwalker5246 I mean to be fair, I’d rather have a right wing dictator than a communist.
The only legitimate role of government is starting wars in unstable middle eastern countries that can’t fight back because it benefits Israel.
@@lakelurker08 even when he was democratically elected???? You would literately choose fascism over communism😂
@@toxicmurdererr7597 yes
Lmao those 35k dislikes are people who don't understand basic economics
@Tommy Vercetti haha more like stupid buthurts
Something gives me the impression you don't get basic economics
Or people who are not conservative. Try again dude.
@@samdaman7016 Or people who dislike opinions other than theirs, try again dude.
@@johnpolinski2318 then explain basic economics
If it looks like Communism, and if it sounds like Communism, it's Communism!
Yes, and if it looks like shit, and if it smells like shit it's Communism!
What’s communism?
@@thesting6820 You are mistaken. All communism is shit. But not all shit is communism...
@@tomio8072 Communism is an economic system. A type of socialism. Communism is where collective production by all the people is redistributed by the gov't.
E.g.: I work a basic factory job, you manage the entire factory's operations. The government collects the profits, takes some for itself to stay running, and redistributes the rest equally so you and I have the same paycheck.
@@garbear6899 so your boss's job is harder than your basic factory job. Would you or anyone take that promotion? Work 10x harder and see nothing for it?
I'm a high school student, and Common Core is the worst thing that has ever happened to me.
That is a taste of liberalism.
atleast you dont have to blitzkrieg through college level spanish one in 1 1/2 quarters
Well that's sucks thank god I graduate like 2 years ago, but don't worry trump had plan to take out common core
gil almanza if i could vote and didnt have reasons for voting for him in the first place, that would be my reason to vote for trump
“European socialist in soccer ”and puts Chile vs Uruguay 😂
Love the vid btw 👌🏼
Both are capitalist countries
@Efren Rios Thats hillarious.
Caught that as well, had to backtrack and make sure I heard it
@@redwater4778 lmao so brainwashed doubt you even realized where the countries are at
Dude, this was the most seriously awesome take-me-to-school video I have ever seen!! Seriously: thank you!
What? This is pure sh!!t
@@harleyjdarby4865 his worldview cannot be based on “human nature” since individualism is a later development in the evolutionary history of the human race. There is no individual who has not been socialized. The first individualist in the wilderness of Africa back in the dawn of humanity, that guy who took his Shiet with him and went to live by himself away from the clan, got eaten by lions
Bernie is using the term socialism in America to “buy” votes? Wouldn’t it he fare a lot better without it? It hasn’t even won him the Democratic Party’s nomination for Pete’s sake. What kind of 5 year old analysis is this?
@@harleyjdarby4865 There aren’t two socialisms, one “traditional” the other democratic. There is only socialism and it was always democratic, democratic socialism is traditional socialism, an viceversa, anything else is a perversion of this idea.
Politicians use the "democratic" part only to emphasize the fact that they are not like the historical authoritarian perversions so as not to scare people who only know of these perversions and have no idea what socialism is
@@harleyjdarby4865 he cannot even get the soccer teams right 4:39
@@etchalaco9971 Probably because do not understand it. I grew up in a socialist country, and he is damn right about socialism. Crowder is not my favorite on the youtube, his style is just not my style, but this video is the best I have seen.
I remember in 3rd grade a 6th grader was running for school president. He promised school off on Fridays. I voted for him and he won. I think some college students these days have the mindset of a 3rd grader.
Will Hendrix Did you get a day-off on Friday? Or was he a liar?
Papal Guard is looking for you im gonna guess he didn't lol
Ryan Hudson That sucks lol
Mine also said that hed make lunch pizza, icecream and tacos everyday
Vote for me and you'll never have to work again! No longer do we need to clean up after ourselves, no longer will we need to grow crops, no longer do we have to live! Vote for me for i will make earth heaven for all of you!
I think I gave myself whiplash from nodding in agreement with EVERY SINGLE POINT in this video.
*Well done, Steven!!*
why???
+gordogunso Because facts matter more than your protected narrative. She actually watched the video and understood what Crowder was saying, despite his "big words." Don't be scared of big words.
+Stiiggy If you nodded in agreement with every single point you have no critical thinking skills. He made a lot of good points, but glossed over a lot.
I don't think it was wiplash. You should get yourself checked out.
Jon Godsman If he glossed over a lot of points, it would stand to reason that you cannot nod over a point that hasn't been made, or is even incomplete. Which would have no effect on how much you've nodded in this video. Not to mention you're being insanely obtuse (either intentionally or not) if you took the words nodding in agreement to "every single thing in this video" literally.
To be clear, she also didn't *literally* get whiplash, either.
And when did Bernie contribute to society trough work? He spent his life with the rationalizing of theft. That’s all there is. Unfortunately America is much more socialist today. Just look at the state quote. Great video, Steven👌
It's scary that 34,000 people disliked this video, knowing perfectly well they can't refute a single thing Steven's saying.
Yeah We can.And do you know why. Because as a person living in Denmark. My country does work. People get confused Socialism with Communism. There actually diffrent.
@@chrisholley6427 There are many reasons why we shouldn't think that what "works" for Denmark will work for the U.S. Population size, lifestyle choices affecting health, and the corruption of the U.S. government to name a few. But many of the policies being pushed by "democratic socialists" like Bernie Sanders conflict rather sharply with how Scandinavia does things. No minimum wage laws, they've school vouchers, they don't penalize the wealthy with high corporate tax rates, etc.
In the U.S., we already know the free market is way better. Healthcare costs didn't skyrocket until the 60s when we essentially gave control of the healthcare industry over to government. And it's precisely in those industries that are *less* regulated where we see prices consistently going down.
That being said, even recently, Trump has been able to lower prescription drug prices at historic rates by applying free market principles (namely, getting more drugs approved by the FDA).
Finally, note that Bernie is called a communist for many reasons, chief among them being that he's willing to go further in taking power away from the people and giving it to government, than even the nations he points to. When do *you* guys plan on banning private health insurance? Because last I heard, you guys are only becoming more privatized.
"Healthcare costs didn't skyrocket until the 60s when we essentially gave control of the healthcare industry over to government."
Excuse me what!?
Also saying that Social democracy wouldn't work because the US is different is just dumb. And bernie isn't communist
Unappealing jobs will still remain, such as FORCED LABOR GULAG СУКА БЛЯТЬ
Papa Stalin has spoken!
Yes but in capitalism, you will at least get paid lots of moneeeeeeeey. Mainly because nobody wants this shitty job and most of them are disgusting.
Work will set you free!
American Dude in the end it was you who was the western spy
Dan San *kapitalism
Ronald Reagan made it absolutely clear:
"Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives."
Mikko Valtonen social democracy is meant to protect people from the obvious negative effects of capitalism.
So, yeah....
@@TheDevilsAdvocate. No. "Bread for all, truffles for none" way of thinking creates a culture of laziness and inefficiency, since there is no incentive to strive for your absolute best, while heavy taxation and endless bureucracy suffocate creativity, innovation and entrepreneurial spirit.
State-run companies tend to be shitty in quality because there is no competition.
Would Richard Branson have been able to create a multi-billion fortune out of literally nothing in a social democracy? I heavily doubt that.
"Obvious," negative effects and explains none of them. Let me then do the same to you and mention social democracy and its obvious negative effects, so yea....
@@mikkovaltonen3564 it's more like bread for all but the rich get some butter and cheese with it just no truffles. People won't just stop working because countries need to run, whether that's a shit job or a good job it's a job that needs to be done by someone somewhere. You know that stinky trash you threw out earlier this week? Someone's picking it up for you so why don't you make sure that guy's staying healthy so he can continue to pick up your garbage you lay out on the street every week.
There was a 90% top rate of income tax under Eisenhower, republican president, and America was doing just fine back then
Look at all the beautiful free speech
Everyone is entitled for that freedom. If anyone wants to destroy it must be guilty.
@@Bella-lc8du *laughs in Canada*
"it is immoral for the top one-tenth of one percent own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%" I love how this is coming from the guy who owns three houses and is a millionare himself.
His policies would affect him too you know
Ankmamma
Yes is just accumulating real estate, so he can redistribute them to the poor.
All about equality, I am sure.
Michel R that’s not what I said
he does not belong to the top one-tenth of one percent. He is clearly talking about the super rich and his tax cut proposal indicates this clearly
@@etchalaco9971 he wants a cushy job with a window and get virtually every expense paid by someone else.
"Basically any well-paying, highly skilled job that the millennials refuse to do as they pursue their 8-year degrees in gender studies." AMEN hahahahaha.
I mean, he's not wrong, lol
Especially interesting coming from a comedian (I have yet to see being funny..) who professionally lies to his audience to suck money out of their pockets...
I mean...im a millennial and I've done the sewage sucking, minesite cleaning asshole jobs and got a trade as a cabinetmaker so i must be one of the rare ones.
@@krisnick92 you are an adult, congratulations there are very few of you left!
@@ncthriller4465 Is that a nickname or something? Did you *mean* to reply to me?
I thought this was taken down. glad it wasn't
It WAS taken down, it got put back up about 2 days ago
Crowder fought it in court and won.
Market Socialist, Crowder is the most pro-states rights person alive. Check yourself stupid person.
+Joe Rogaine State's rights has given us such wonderful things. BEST of all Slavery. YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
+Market Socialist He is a classical liberal, not an anti-statist, fucking moron
I'm watching this in 2020 and remmeber this being my first Crowder video 4 years ago.
So basically, Bernie sanders is the 21st century version of Lennin
how so? hes not a socialist
@@magnusorn7313 he say hes for socialist and want to apply it to the country. His words
@@123telamon not at all, he says he is a democratic socialist, and he says he wants to apply certain policies to the US, if you care to look at what these policies are you will see that they are NOT AT ALL democratic socialist but in fact are social democratic
@@tylerwittmann1202 One that can be seen employed in countries across Europe, countries who have free markets... Why do people always think of socialism and capitalism as the only 2 extremes, nothing in between, black and white. There is so much space across that spectrum.
@@tylerwittmann1202 Capitalism without any regulation is extreme. There more you regulate, the more state control there is, and the more you move towards the other side of the spectrum: socialism.
It would not necessarily become affordable through competitiveness. There are many examples of businesses out-competing their competences to the point of dominance, which leads to them feeling way too comfortable and again leading to higher prices and anti-consumer policies. You also get the added moral problem of companies trying to profit as much as they can from people's health issues, which itself poses many problems that without regulation could have serious consequences. And what happens when a healthcare company fails? Could there not be consequences for the customers of that business? The health of the population is such a basic good, and something which benefits the rest of society to such a high degree it should be of high priority and ensured.
"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." - Calvin Coolidge
bruh
I'm 16 and know nothing about politics
well don't watch crowder for your information. he is a disinformation god. I recommend Noam Chomsky (political philosopher), Jimmy dore (journalist), or this guy named kyle (journalist) you'll know it is the specific kyle if he looks like a lesbian. :) seculartalk
Nephilim Born yep, you don't want to follow so-called conservative "misinformation" so you point him to libshit misinformation, totally unbiased, making people think that your worldview and only that worldview is correct is misinformation, and that's all those people do, but people don't trust them anymore or people like you and that's how Trump won.
+109743369049027866622 I just recommended him what I personally like. And crowder does constantly spread misinformation. I didn't say that because he is conservative, I said that because it's a fact.
what Bernie said, "saying it is immoral and wrong that the top 10 and 1 percent own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. you see, every other major country providing Healthcare to their citizens as a right except the united states... those are some of the principles I believe in, we should look to countries like denmark, sweden, and norway, and learn about what they accomplished for their working people."
what the dunce said, "Bernie Sanders did not articulate a world view, he just pointed to things that have existed since the beginning of time, said you should be angry, that you deserve stuff and presented you with a Christmas wish list"
Everything that he's ever said about *socialism, communism, countries that actually practice communism, Venezuela, climate change,* just to name a few things, have been completely and 100% wrong. Do you people know who funds his program. I wont tell you. I'll leave it a surprise so you can go research yourself for once and see who funds crowder's BS.
Watch "potholer54" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/users/potholer54 he is great at debunking crowder's climate change bs. Crowder is too scared to debate him. I wonder why?
Remember what Ronald Reagan said, "We must not look to government to solve our problems. Government is the problem."
I love secular talk!
"contrast that with the european socialists in soccer"
*shows Uruguay vs Chile*
Please forgive him, for he is canadian. You know, the socialist dumb state to the north
the 35k dislikes didnt go to economics class
If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth.
Ronald Reagan
Mike McNiel Great, we are soooo screwed!
Lol the US is less free than the Netherlands
@@Minecraftizawsom Reagan said a lot of things, even on things that he knew nothing about.
The US is less free than a lot of places.
@@ascoop22 how? Name another country that has true freedom of speech, of the press, and the right to bear arms.
@@juanburgos8176 Many western first world countries have true freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Having the right to bear arms does not in any way make you more free. Only a gun nut from an out of control gun culture would say something like that. I can own a gun if I want. Canada. There are many countries in the world where people have the freedom to take a knee during a game. A little while ago some American football players tried to do just that during the anthem and their shithole of a president called them sons of bitches. And you think that is somehow being free or free speech? Americans think they have more freedoms only because they've been suckered into believing it.
*grabs popcorn* and looks at comment section
*Gets Cancer*
not just cancer
democratic socialism cancer!
whoa ease up on the grabbing part
REX ! Instructions unclear, grabbed a woman by the pussy
Too bad it's racist to use that Michael Jackson gif..
Lmao I’m a freshman in high school and I know more about economics than the people on that tv show lol
I like you.
What tv show?
1. Type “Monsters Inc” in google search bar and press enter.
2. Your first result should be a table of contents for the movie Monsters Inc.
3. Click on “Characters”
4. Thank me later.
Enlighten us
Based on that comment, I doubt it.
Healthcare is a human right.
No its not.
@@darioncollins6333 Yes, it is. Case closed.
I think Bernie is just bitter because of his brothers extremely successful fried chicken business.
haha
He is old enough for them to be brothers FR
Bernie Sanders: socialism, it's finger licking good.
@Geo Smith NO! ANYTHING BUT THE COUPONS! I GOT ONE FOR A FAMILY MEAL WITH MUH FAVORITE POTATOE WEDGES!
Haaaa I see what you did there lol
As stated by Margret Tharcher. “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Because all the money isn't slowly flowing to the top 1%
thats not socialism, thats borrowing and not paying it back.
Where do you think the money goes if it runs out? You think it stops existing?
@420Praiseit Gitgudneosucksasstoo That's EXACTLY how it works in practice, and to assert otherwise flies in the face of every shred of available evidence. And no, wishful thinking and leftist, economic pipe-dreaming doesn't count as evidence.
@Sarcastic Squash,
it's flowing because of capitalism.... it wouldn't be with socialism though.
I want to look up more information on the failings of socialism, such as rampant rape in Sweden and in Canada's health care system goes against human rights, which I totally believe as a citizen of Canada. I agree that socialism will eventually fail, would love to be able to back that up more.
Part of evidence is just human nature. We can guarantee that people will look out for their own interests--we can't guarantee they will look out for other's. Sweden also has a very homogenous culture and I believe is only the population of Florida. Historically we can simply see that socialism never works.
Socialism tells you to work less to gain more
Capitalism tells you to work hard for what you get
To work harder to make more
@Pack -A- Punch umm but your presidents want to have reparations which is giving money to others that we worked for
They want higher taxes
They want free colleges paid by tax payers
does this get so many down votes because he points to arguments from the other side and counters them quite well?
Yes.
+Seth B
Yeah, if he had some bad counters everyone would click "like".
*eyeyroll*
+Seth B Milennial, low-information voters search for the definition of "democratic socialism" (because they don't know either) then get their world shattered with facts. Their instinct is to make it go away by clicking a thumbs down icon.
No, the down votes are what intelligent people do. Unintelligent people upvote
He cherry picks his arguments, and doesn't properly address anything, substituting facts with jokes and personal beliefs. He uses post office as government inefficiency, but conveniently ignores countless failed companies and corporations. He didn't address the fact, that it was already proven by 50s that invisible hand of the market leads to a defacto dictatorship of the rich, so his beliefs are just as out of touch with reality as communism. He doesn't address the fact, that every modern country lies somewhere on a spectrum between left and right. He can't even actually address government problems in Sweden, replacing a real investigation with taking some random negative news headline, and his "analysis" of Canada health care system consists of a tiny wiki quote, ignoring the rest of the article.
All in all, this sort of video LOOKS like a proper argument in the eyes of those who already agree with him, but is actually largely empty bullshit for the rest.
What is socialism?
so·cial·ism
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism;
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism;
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.
Notice how "democracy" isn't mentioned?
Socialism is a flawed concept whether viewed as an economic system, a worldview, or in practical terms. Not only does socialism not work, it cannot work because of the following shortcomings:
Replaces the family with the state as the central unit in society.
Undermines the family by redistributing its wealth and indoctrinating its children in government schools.
Allows legalized theft in the name of redistributing wealth.
Encourages sloth instead of productivity.
Rewards irresponsibility, laziness, and poor accountability.
Encourages self-indulgence instead of self-reliance.
Encourages finger pointing and shifting of responsibility to others.
Replaces the self-discipline of delayed gratification with the need for instant gratification.
Undermines the values that are the foundation of the traditional work ethic (i.e. thrift, diligence, self-reliance, self-discipline, responsibility, accountability, deferred gratification, and hard work) and replaces them with an entitlement mentality.
Treats those who contribute to the betterment of society the same as those who do not, even when they are capable of doing so.
Promotes a get-something-for-nothing mentality that undermines the moral character of the individual and society.
Robs people of initiative, drive, and ambition.
Undermines the spirit of entrepreneurship, innovation, and competitiveness.
Promotes totalitarianism, thereby undermining freedom and liberty.
And before you even think about saying it, police, military, etc, are NOT socialist programs. There is no need to defend against the claim that police, firefighting, military, roads, etc. are socialist. Socialism is control of economic assets. The things liberals, in their desperate attempt to defend their socialist leanings, try to claim are socialist are not economic assets, and therefore do not fall under the definition of socialist programs. They are part of the basic infrastructure within which society as a whole, including the economy, operate.
If you think socialism is so fucking awesome, take your happy ass to a socialist country. Try Greece or Venezuela, I hear socialism is doing all kinds of great things there....
+Brian Buchanan BTW great moment, but my eyes cant take anymore
+Brian Buchanan You know why democracy isn't mentioned in the definition of socialism? Because it's an economic system and democracy has nothing to do with it. However under capitalism this basic separation doesn't exist due to the very nature of it as an uncontrollable, hungry system tending to eat whatever it happens to work with, being it in the economic sphere, the political sphere or the social one. Many people say that capitalism is the enhancement of the inevitable human greed therefore making it an untouchable economic system. However the survival of the fittest (capitalism) is not what our society needs. We've accepted medicines and chemotherapies, we attach people to machines to let them survive. Progress consists in a revolution against nature, and nature isn't always on the right side.
The survival of the fittest is for creatures that are moved by instincts and the desire of surviving. If we are different from other animals it is because we are capable of going against nature and changing it to our needs.
And progress itself comes from fraternity and causes equality.
However it seems like the economy is going right opposite to this kind of evolution.
The main principle of a capitalistic economy that heads against it is its need to have lucky people to become rich and unluckier ones to stay poor. What we in fact need to reject is a world where fortunes are made off of the poverty of others, a world that embraces a system that claims to award those who work, while it doesn't. The basement of our society, people who work 8 hours per day with a minimum salary, is getting cut off by the rich.
And don't say they are 'lazy' or 'not smart' because we would need people to clear our streets, serve our food or work in our industries in any case.
This process of slowly decreasing the income of the most consistent part of the society without decreasing the impact of it on the economy is leading to an high income inequality and the demolition of any hope the working class has ever had.
But not only is capitalism killing the modern society under a social point of view. It is in fact slowly destroying all the three fundamental spheres of our society.
Under capitalism we can think the economic sphere as a group of excellent predators so successful in catching the animal they must feed of.
We've observed how the power has moved and is moving from the political sphere to the economical causing the falling of organized democracies, the shifting from an ideological interest to an economical one. We're seeing politicians being weaker than ever due to the power corporations have.
But just like the perfect predators make the animal they eat go extinct causing the only remaining possibility to be cannibalism, the economic sphere started eating the political sphere to such an extent that it is now undermining itself.
Naturally along with the rising of corporations we have the decreasing of the small enterprises, causing the increasing of imports, and, as it is commonly known, imports are toxic for the internal economy of a country. So aggregate demand is falling and the income inequality simultaneously makes the death and poverty peaks higher and the economic growth slower due to the increasing of wastes.
Capitalism ultimately doesn't give economy a sane competition, it gives us an incentive to show our greed and a reason to destroy our planet.
In fact capitalism cannot be persuaded to limit its growth any more than a human being can be persuaded to stop breathing. Every attempt to "green-capitalism" to make it ecological is doomed by the very nature of it as a system of endless growth.
"When people ask you the question "how do you destroy humankind", the answer is: "kill democracy, kill people, kill economy, kill nature".
Progress leads to communism, in the way that within centuries, decades if we are lucky, energy will be free (which technically already is), machines will work for us and money will no longer be needed, leaving communism as the only remaining possibility. However, I firmly believe that we have to opt for socialism as soon as possible in order to stop the attempts of capitalism to slow down and even halt this progress.
Socialism is not the flattening of our expectations, it is the flattening of our opportunities.
Let's examine those that have been socialist countries.
South america: it is suffering from anti-marketism.
Cuba: has the highest literacy ratio in the world, free healthcare, free higher education, 50% of the parliament composed by women, the first country to eliminate mother to child HIV transmission, participated to health missions in 158 countries, unemployment is less than 2.4%, lower child mortality than the US, created cures to hepatitis B and meningitis. Before they turned to be a stagist socialist country they were so poor they could not make it to be a state.
China: Mao was an economic illiterate, because revisionism doesn't work, and the high poverty caused by this policy lead to the deaths of millions. However it has now one of the world leading economies.
Scandinavia (democratic socialism): this happens to be the best region to start a business in, the happiest and the leading region in the human development index. It is now having problems due to the excessive and unplanned immigration.
Russia: It is hard to define whether this was a state capitalist country or a stage 1 socialist country. But whatever. I'm assuming the URSS was a socialist country. Before the URSS even existed Russia's population was mainly composed by pleasants. After the october revolution it started an industrialization process that lead to the transformation of the URSS to become the world leading economy along with the USA. You could argue that people were poor in Russia. That's true. But the reason for that is a failed softening of the transition from capitalism to socialism. In fact if a capitalist economy country is poor but starting to develop, an unamortized shifting to a new economy will cause a regression. That's why a stagist theory has to be opted in order to have the rising of another economy that's not capitalism. Anyways people were way more rich after the October revolution than before.
+Brian Buchanan You forgot to mention Canada, Australia, South Korea, and practically every European nation ;).
+Brian Buchanan >by the community as a whole.
That is literally what a democracy is you dull moron. Power lies with the people. Just because the sky doesnt have the word "blue" written on it does not mean it isnt blue.
+Natsoc I thought I wouldn't have to talk about them since they're doing great. Even tho European countries aren't socialist.
There seems to be a Physiological, Psychological, Philosophical difference between Conservatives and Liberals. Am I the only one who notices this?
These hard-core liberals and conservatives are too brainwashed in there own doctrine to understand that are basically mirror images of each other. They should come in to the middle were the logical people live.
So this is not about social democracy? Because social democracy is not socialism.
It gets really tiring when people are calling Scandinavian countries Socialist countries, especially Denmark when they are not. Want a real Socialist country? Venezuela, Greece. First one more so than the other. First one is also more shit than the other.
+Ssoss I think that's one of the reasons why people are attaching themselves to "socialism" so much. They get told (probably by their professors) that anything provided by the government is socialism, when it's really a mixed economy.
Except that you guys know little about socialism. Even though Greece, Argentina and Venezuela are led by socialists they are everything but socialist. You could say that they have adopted socialist policies but that doesn't make those countries socialist either ways they would have had workers seizing the means of production and that's not the case. South America is specifically suffering from anti-marketism and Greece is suffering from the enormous debt it had before socialist parties arisen.
+Javier Miglino Socialism is way of distributing goods and services. IT IS NOT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT!! You apparently were distributing goods and services in a socialistic manner before your dictator showed up. Capitalism is also a method of distribution and NOT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT. JP
Both Venezuala and Greece didn't suffer because of socialism. Venezuala suffers from the oil price, not socialism. Also, not sure, but Scandinavia is social democratic, just like Bernie Sanders.
Socialism in venezuela doesn't work because the corruption! The governement keep 80 per cent of it's richness and give 20 to the people, and the socialism is about Equality! do you see my point..And You're wrong Scandinavian countries are socialist
There is a reason why most historians vote Republican. It is because ideas brought to table by liberals are, in almost all cases, old ideas that have been proven not to work. I'm serious, the ideas given by new "revolutionary" politicians, are not new ideologies.
Socialism has never worked in any sustainable form, at any point in history. Communism, though more stable, will inevitably become oppressive. Capitalism isn't made to be "fair", nor was it made to "perfect". It was meant to be sustainable, which it is.
I find it mind boggling why millennials believe that they are all political geniuses, who are somehow capable of overturning hundreds of years of evidence proving that their ideas are incorrect.
look at any scandinavian country
Condescending Jerkwad Socialism has never worked anywhere because it was destroyed by capitalist countries in its womb.
Everything will soon be automated so Socialism will work for bigger countries
exactly
Nelson Janusson dude shut the fuck up about the Scandinavians. They aren't even socialist look it up.
Is there somewhere I can get his sitations and such for his videos?
“European socialists in soccer,” - shows a Uruguay vs Peru game😭😂, I do agree with the vid though.🧐
I thought I was a democrat, until I accidentally found your channel, and learned that my high school politics class was immensely biased and cherry picked what they told us. Thank you for making me less stupid.
You got a better idea? the system I will admit is in no way perfect, but it .sure beats being forced to vote for one person only, every single election. We can all at least agree on that.
@Apulaite no because where is the balance?
@Apulaite ok so if EVERYONE's views says we should kill anyone with blue eyes because they look better. Then a blue eyed person says, "hey, don't we all agree that green eyed people are ugly? so lets kill them?" Mass Belief is not truth, reality, or facts. the point to a better life to LOGICALLY control your beliefs. but the problem we're having is how to do it with 7 billion on the planet. there would be no such thing as an immigrant if everyone country was america, now would it?
@Apulaite ok im grasping how straws then.my question to you is this...HOW DO YOU CONTROL 7 BILLION PEOPLE WHO ALL BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY? please explain
what do you mean "You don't cotnrol them" ???!?! what if those multiple parties BELIEVE no one should wear a blue coat? there are 5 parties that believe that. Then one comes along and says "well, we want to wear blue coats." What happens in this situation?
23K downvotes? There are alot of uninformed people out there, this guy was spot on guys..
Lol, Crowder's audience is to most uninformed people on earth... mostly because of crowder
@@ankmamma688 stfu commie
@@RidinMyGrandmasCadillac wow you showed him
@@ankmamma688 evidence Please
Oh look! All of Bernie's supporters showed up to give it a thumbs down. And probably didn't watch.
Carlina C
I am a Bernie supporter.
You have no knowledge of how much he can improve your lives. That is, if you are not rich.
I am an Scandinavian. And we live the life Bernie
tries to import to America.
With Free Health Care,
Free Schools, 5-8 weeks Paid Vacation,
1 Year Paid Maternity Leave.
38 hours work week.
no one needs 2 jobs etc, etc
But most of Europe has this, more or less.
@@sveingeraldhansen7275 Europe is screwed, they do not have guns, the government has so much control and due to government run schools they can decide what people should and shouldn't learn. AKA brainwashing. Us Americans continue to get richer, except in blue states. You know, where the taxes are high and the money keeps going to illegal immigrants. No wonder Germany is closing it's borders and that the UK managed to complete Brexit.
@@echohart3612
Ha ha ha you are a Funny guy.
We lack the Guns.
We also lack around 50,000 shooting victims.
And all the fear that follows the guns.
It makes us very sorry that our
families
don`t live on the cemetery.
US debt surpasses $23 trillion for first time
Trump made it go from 20 to 22 and now it is raised to $23 trillion, it is the US way to get richer
(Us Americans continue to get richer )
And we are also very sorry that we have
so much freedom that we can do what we want.
Even the girls, if she`s having a child,
she don`t pay anything,
she gets 52 weeks free with full pay.
And later she will have very cheap daycare etc
So they don`t need a man with money,
to marry, she is much more independent.
So go to Europe to open your eyes.
They have been closed much to long .
Almost all people in Europe travels around the world, getting new views from here and there.
We can because we get 5 to 8 weeks Vacation with full pay every year.
But your government don`t want you to look outside of US because then you will see what a shitty country US have become.
Without Maternity Leave together with only
2 other countries in the whole world
US, New Guinea and Surinam
No Paid 5 weeks Vacation,
No Free Schools incl University
No Free Healthcare or
$ 300 a year max for all Medication.
@@sveingeraldhansen7275 Okay and what about stabbings? What about the acid attacks taking place in the UK? Taking away one weapon will only make criminals find more weapons and the innocent people are left defenseless.
@@echohart3612
You can`t kill a person on a distant with other weapons than a gun. You can be drunk ,pissed off by even an argument and shoot somebody. It's so easy.
Then you have destroyed his and your life,
and families.
With a knife you have to be willing to
offer your own life, he can take your knife away from you and use it.
Acid attacks
is a cowardly form of torture, which comes from India i believe.
But is also a close up thing.
And in Norway you are not allowed to wear
neither knife nor
gun. Even the Police don`t
wear Guns.
Elizabeth Warren is hosting a town hall in Laconia NH, 10 minutes away from my house.
I'm watching this video to prepare to question her. Thanks Steven!
Let us know how that goes. Especially if she doesnt get around to calling you a name!
33k + socialist are out there. Scary times we are living in
Yep
Yup. All the genetic weaklings that can’t hack it in an open, free, and competitive society.
Yeah well, unfortunately that's what we get when people don't learn or learn from history.
It's very sad & scary. I think anyone who thinks socialism is a good idea, should have to spend 3 months in Venezuela, then let's see how many people support it. The problem is these people think that they are going to be living in mansions & won't have to work. Unfortunately when you look at history it hasn't worked, no how many times it's been tried, however they always spout the same crap that it just hasn't been done right. Best wishes
The U.S. is actually full of 300 million socialists... or at least every one of them who uses the roads, military, police, fire, postal service, Social Security, Medicare, etc.
Every time I see Bernie I feel his hand in my pocket.
That's called The Invisible Hand of democratic socialism
You got that right.
every politician is reaching their hands in your pockets ya dumb asses
Every time I see Bernie's hand in you pocket, I see the hand of my interests in your pocket.
@@Dovenpeis feel bad for you if a hypocritical wanna be Robin hood is your savior. You think that idiot practices what he preaches? Lol no
This is ridiculous, no democratic socialism is not the same as socialism. It’s like saying conservatism is the same as fascism.
great vid! but i just thought it was funny as hell when you said “european socialists and soccer” and then showed a match between chile and uruguay 😂 4:36
Tax all bernie supporters at 90%. May not bring in much tax revenue, but might teach a lesson that even bernie supporters could understand.
We can see how well "Democratic Socialism or Socialism" is working in Venezuela :)
Yup! 😅
+Zako Metereveli TI works well in some places, and it doe snot work well in other places.
Its a balancing act.
+Zako Metereveli Actually, you can see how Communistic Socialism under a profoundly corrupt military regime is working in Venezuela.
+Zako Metereveli How is it working in Europe and Japan?
mithrane It works in some places, and it doesnt work in other places.
Its a balancing act. Venezuela is way off balance, and they are not really a free country either.
Plenty of other countries do properly balance socialism and capitalism.
So finding an example of it not working, while ignoring the examples where it is working, is an intellectually dishonest argument to try to present
hey crowder i love your videos but this one goes too far, the disrespect and misinformations in this video are beyond my understanding and i have to disagree with you, i can not believe you tried to fool all of us by sharing those wrong informations, hence why i am gonna state the obvious: scrooge invested, invested heavily and did not just pile gold
lmao
FYI, during the USSR times, the Soviet union didn’t consider themselves Communists. They were Socialists working TOWARDS communism. This brings to mind an old Soviet era Joke, or Anecdote I heard on 'Ushanka Show'. An old man goes to a party meeting and the speaker says 'I see Communism on the HORIZON!'. The old man goes home and asks his son what Horizon means? His son tells him 'Horizon is a line in the distance you can see, but never reach.'
It's honestly depressing that there are millions of people who actually believe socialism or communism are good ideas.
everardo feliciano they are good ideas no doubt but they never execute well.
communism is the best form of government, but in history there has been no form of perfect communism because of human greed
Gaming With Coffee (meaning communism doesn't work)
everardo feliciano Why do you think they are not?
All western country's do so... And where the ridges country's not the USA you guys have a debt 3 times bigger than all country's in Europe...
the only thing that bothered me in this video was "contrast that with the european socialists in soccer"
*switches to Chile vs Argentina soccer match*
Exactly what I thought lol
Ya but those are South American countries not European Socialists.
depj1000 bruh.......really
Albert Einstein advocated socialism. Stephen crowder is a salty SJW.
he's not a sjw
Individualization is capitalism, Individual is the right to choose. Socialism is communal, Socialism is anti-choice
I LOVE THE LENIN IMPRESSION! xD
A lot of their propositions sound eerily similar to dystopian novels...
Name one...
David Douglas ‘the republic of the future’ there is one. Socialism doesn’t work it has been tried many times before. Stop being a lazy bitch and get a job.
yeah like socialised healthcare sooooo dystopian
Ankmamma Yes it very dystopian, considering the amount of people who die waiting for cancer treatment in the uk, it is disgustingly high. These silly propositions of shared wealth are quite ludicrous and will never work (as history has shown us many times.)
@@mlgfrog27
Well the NHS isn't being funded so yeah. But atleast you don't get 50k in medical debt.
Im an Aussie and grew up not knowing much about the constitution or amendments. But as I get older every time I wonder how I would create a perfect society or tackle an issue of freedom, thinking im breaking new ground but then I go ''oh damn, that's what the constitution says already''
Ben Williams: Mr. Williams, you are welcome here when you embrace our ideals. I could use your help in the process of trying to keep our freedoms.
It's sad so many Americans hate the constitution
theres a reason people are willing to die for those papers
That makes you a marxist btw
If yoy try to inprove an economic system your a marxist
Ben Williams Except How Almost all of EUROPE ranks higher than to us on the freedom index. The US is only ranked 44th. I guess this is Because when you guys Get sick or lose your job, you are bankrupt.
Why has it become impossible to find your sources. Long-time fan and trying to find one for a paper...
I just realized that I'm wearing a school house rock shirt too
Taxes.
My taxes help pay for that military, that K-12 schooling, that Postal Service and yes, that welfare/medicare system. They are NOT free and someone has to pay for them, somewhere along the line.
Corporate tax also once funded social programs . However corporate tax rates have declined by halve since Reagan era . More tax burden for the people . Crowder never mentions corporate tax contribution to society
Thank you for your tax payment. I use government funds to house people. 😈
Anyone that gives up liberty for a little security deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin.
I have not sold my liberty to anyone. I have the right to do as I please. If I choose to own a car, and I have the money for it, I buy a car. I do not need any politicians approval to buy that car. Under the socialist plans, I would need to file in triplicate months before I even think of getting the car. Under AOC's plan, unless I am one of the political approved top 1%, there would be no chance of that happening.
IF I want to buy a home and can get the loan for it, I can buy a house just about anywhere in America I want. Under the socialist plan, I would have no chance to own a home, since it would have to be built by the government, and controlled by the government to make sure that I did not use more than my political approved allotment of energy.
If I want to get a job in another town, I just pack up and move and find what ever job I want, that I am qualified to do. Under the socialist plan, I would be assigned to a job based on what others decided was best for the community.
I have not given up any rights, but the socialist are demanding that I give up all my rights and threaten my grandchildren's life if I do not. In law enforcement that is called Extortion.
Darkness technically corrupt politicians in the early 1900’s sold us out to bankers by illegally delegating the money supply to the federal reserve. The reserve is a private banking system. Then they forced income tax and the IRS either down our throats or up our buts... you can pick
That has nothing to do with socialist trying to destroy the country by making everyone dependent on the government for every handout in the world. Then when the government is so far in debt we cant pay the interest, the countries that bought the debt, mainly china, could demand we give up all our land and resources to them. China did that to small countries by getting the corrupt politicians to put the country in so much debt it could not pay.
Why would they want to stop doing something so successful. They do not need to fire a single shot to take over the world, only get corrupt leaders to sell out the country. That's why china owned media like CNN hates trump.
@@roberthicks1612 china never stopped being a loan shark. The entire belt and road initiative they have is one massive multi country loan shark scam and so is every place they have ever gone offering to build up infrastructure at the low low price of bankruptcy.
Yes, and China wants to do the same thing to the US. Obama and Hillary wanted to aid that.
crowder, when are you gonna come out with that book that you mentioned that would have both sides of the argument for people to look at?
I just noticed what you are doing with your hashtags...You’re a Genius Steven....
The problem is that Bernie is not truly a socialist. It's a buzzword.
😂😂😂
Yeah sure 😂
Sure, kiddo😂😂😂😂
He has a point, Bernie isn't advocating workers autonomy from bosses and government and he isn't getting rid of the Capitalist based economy, he's only giving out "free" social programs.
+Alex Cruz yea, only 3. Paid maternity leave, single payer healthcare, and public college. Seriously, on a political compass he is barely left and down of center. A true socialist would be in the middle of quadrant 3.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded that socialism and communism are even considered.
it's because the already brainwashed are in the teaching profession....they have access to the freshest emptiest minds to corrupt....thus keeping their union in tax-payer funded pension funds.
Liam Auleta Thats why they are not considered. This idiot Crower blames to know the labels, and state that social democracy is the same as socialism or communism, while its not. Social democracy aka welfarestate is the most left category of capitalism.
Y should someone who works 5 days a week 8 to 5 and travels for business also has a 120 iq get the same rewards as some who works 1 shift a day 3 times a week and has a 70 iq
And also explain what is democratic socialism what is the difference between socialism and it.
Liam Auleta, Democratic Socialism, or perhaps more accurately Social Democracy, is a combination of two things: an open, democratic government, and an economic policy based on mutual support and restriction of monopoly. Essentially, a better regulated version of what America has right now. The main difference is that a Social Democracy limits the potential disparity in control and resource distribution (eg. a CEO should not be payed 1,000 times more than an employee who works the same hours at the same level of effort.) and focuses on socialist programs like the fire department, the police department, health insurance, national parks, public roads, affordable education, etc. While many people compare Democratic Socialism and Communism, this comparison is inaccurate. Communism is an economic policy of total state control and all Communist nations thus far have been dictatorships. Democratic Socialism on the other hand is centered around democratic government, and can not only coexist with a capitalist economy, but even strengthen it by breaking up monopolies, promoting competition, and supporting workers who's paychecks go back into the economy.
Nearly 50% of Americans pay ZERO in fed taxes... And when a corporation is charged taxes the people who buy the product or service pays for it.
Im 13 and i live in canada and my dad has to 100k in taxes cause of the heathcare
Canada is fucking trash. I live in Québec and cant stand it. Ill prolly move to the US soon tho
holy shit you must be rich tho.
how much does he gotta be making to pay 100k in taxes?,
you can afford a house, food, you got free healthcare and education if you use them, surely you're loaded. there comes a point where you don't need more money, and you're comfortable now
@@peepeetrain8755 so you earn more money, to lose more money. So you pay for people that dont do anything.
@@amazighaichiou4383 wait how much does he won he probably wins a loooot of money if 100k of money goes to taxes
@@JorgeGonzalez-gu7ve in Canada if you make about 200k plus you will pay approximately 50% of it depending on the province.
I live in Norway, and social democracy is that everyone has a certain amount of rights (which needs taxes ofc) so that most people get a fair start in life. This keeps our population intelligent. We have a capitalistic community, seeing that it's illegal to own a monopoly(except the state can, and it's chosen by the people), so the companies has to compete. Still the workers have rights(included in the rights I stated earlier) that keeps them from being exploited and they can live a least healthy and normal life
Without capitalism, Norway would've caved in. Socialism alone can't keep the economy afloat.
+Johan Beck Yea, it's the same thing in Denmark. Everybody has state-provided rights, like free healthcare, roof over their head, and free education. But we also have rules in place, so you can't live on your education for the rest of your life, and there is a limit to how long you will get money from the state, if you're out of a job. It's about finding the balance.
What I don't understand about american politics is, why there is only two parties. In Denmark we have 9 parties in our Parliament, and we have more, that didn't get enough votes to get in. This allows for more nuanced points of views in the debate, rather than "just" the yes/no black/white way of debating. The parties also almost always need to co-op with each other, giving broader deals, that will hold for a longer time.
+Jannik Søndergaard This, m8. Most countries in the world have several parties. Here in Mexico we have like seven or eight, ranging from crazy catholic conservatives to socialists. And yet, they seem to work better among themselves than reps and dems in America.
Sunstrider
Dude, Mexico is a poor country, your seven or eight political parties aren't doing a good job.
+Di Lung Move it Ya Fool! Didn't say that... Some capitalism and some socialism is good
14,738 people are now Red Commies. Congratulations guys, congratulations
+Noah Schlegel I'm guessing 'hyperbole' isn't a word you're terribly familiar with...
+Noah Schlegel I don't remember when bernie sanders said that the government is going to take everyones money and throw it around. You made that up yourself.
+Noah Schlegel Nothing better than a bit of McCarthyism.
+Noah Schlegel Are you a fucking idiot?
+Darthmufin1 "If you're making $50000 a year, you'll be paying over $5000 more a year" Did you not watch the video? Why should I pay more taxes for college when I didn't go? Why should I pay more taxes for other people's healthcare when I can pay my own insurance? Why would a CEO increase the risk they incur in starting a business by staying in the country when their taxes go up 20%? It's not made up, it's a logical conclusion. The gnomes that live under my mattress are made up, companies not growing when they make less money is a logical conclusion.
has steven ever talked about the yang guy running for president in 2020? Im curious
Woojinmangorice Shapiro and Joe Rogan have idk about crowded tho
@@DojoDoggo thankss
Make more of these, I have some friends to explain it to...