I just bought the desktop symphony. I’m starting to get the hang of it. Your video was very helpful since apogee hasn’t made the how to as well as you just did. Thanks, GP
@@urbanmixrecords I’m using a Mac with Logic. I’m sure Windows will be fine. This is without question the finest 2 channel interface available. IMHO. I’m loving it even though I haven’t figured it all out yet. GP
Hi ,, very informative.. thank you! ... would be nice if you could do a simple multi-track recording video showing delay compensation in Apogee/logic/midi
How is the performance and latency on big projects with many audio and instrument tracks? Can you run low buffer sizes with no issues? For a product that has been on the market for MANY months, this is yet to be covered on youtube in depth for Music production in a DAW, not even by Apogee! How does it compare with the interface you had before this one?
I'm having no issues at all with running low buffer sizes, and it's basically the same as compared to the Focusrite Scarlett and Apogee Duet I had before this. Generally speaking, the bottlenecks that determine how low you can run your buffer are your CPU, RAM, whether you're using SSDs, etc. Of course, if you ever DO need to increase your buffer size, the Symphony has all of its direct monitoring capabilities that make dealing with latency trouble-free.
Thank you for the answer. I have a question about latencies. In 44.1 at buffer 64 how much does the round trip logic show? Do you remember how much Scarlett showed? Thank you. Grazzie. :)
@@fonklangoryklangory2586 Don't remember the Scarlett, but at those settings with the SD it shows 9.3 ms roundtrip. I personally rarely worry about latency, since I'm either monitoring directly off the Symphony, or I use Low Latency mode in Logic
I understand. That's a lot. I remember Apogee Duet firewire, set to 44.1 at buffer 64, had 7.3ms RTL in Logic Pro X on core2duo Macbook Pro 15 ”2007. I do not understand. Desktop has great preamps, emulations, but for me it is important to work with software monitoring in Logic Pro X and RTL below 7ms. Which interface should I choose?
Did you know it’s not possible to setup the reverb plugin for direct monitoring. That’s the most important thing while tracking. This is big bummer for the whole unit. I am trying to migrate from Apollo platform and got a Symphony Desktop. But I think I am going to return this and get back to my Apollo. This is basic. Their so called mixer doesn’t have a send and return for the reverb, neither can you insert it.
Hey Shyam, I don't know what platform you're on, but I asked Apogee a similar question, and here's what they said, at least as it pertains to Mac/Logic: "Concerning your question about reverb, we should be adding our proprietary Logic integration that's included with the Element and Ensemble into Desktop for the next release. This add the Direct button, so individual channels may be set to either software monitoring or direct monitoring. Another aspect of these features is that, even when you're direct monitoring and in record, the aux sends are still active. That way, you can send a Logic channel to a reverb even when you're direct monitoring. Yes, there's latency on the echo send, but hey, that's what reverb is!"
@@whytunes i had the same question, thanks for the answer, but i have to say: even what Apogee says is technically true, it is not at the same time. I mean, because of latency, what you hear from your reverb during recording and what you hear after playback may be different. Yes, you can match it afterwards, but why not just let the Reverb plugin run on DSP as well? And not everybody uses Logic
@@chatuugu1802 I know this is an old comment but I have this and an Apollo Twin X because I’m doing a video comparing them. I feel your pain. If you use an apollo for the reverb you still would have to pull it up in the DAW and match the settings to hear it back which is an extra step but the artist can still feel the vibe with no latency as they are recording. You do have the option to print but I wouldn’t print reverb. If Apogee had a DSP reverb that is dual path, man that would solve this. I wish they had pitch correction as well like UAD but I’m just dreaming
Apogee should pay you for this video.
I just bought the desktop symphony. I’m starting to get the hang of it. Your video was very helpful since apogee hasn’t made the how to as well as you just did. Thanks, GP
Thanks, that's great to hear!
Bro, i have also booked my apogee desktop, any issues with windows ???
@@urbanmixrecords I’m using a Mac with Logic. I’m sure Windows will be fine. This is without question the finest 2 channel interface available. IMHO. I’m loving it even though I haven’t figured it all out yet. GP
I'm loving it on windows
I watched another video from some other channel going over these updates and it didn't help much. Yours is MUCH more clear. Thanks!
Thanks Nolan, that's great to hear!
Nice explanation, I didn’t get it as clearly in the Apogee marketing info. It makes me wonder why ALL interfaces don’t work in ‘dualpath’.
Thanks for your video!
Thank you!
Love it this changes the Game updated mine ASAP can’t wait for 1.2
thank you!
I intend to buy
what is bad in Apogee Symphony Desktop ?
Is there way to get a noise gate and no need for reaper or flstudio in windows
Hi ,, very informative.. thank you! ... would be nice if you could do a simple multi-track recording video showing delay compensation in Apogee/logic/midi
How is the performance and latency on big projects with many audio and instrument tracks? Can you run low buffer sizes with no issues? For a product that has been on the market for MANY months, this is yet to be covered on youtube in depth for Music production in a DAW, not even by Apogee! How does it compare with the interface you had before this one?
I'm having no issues at all with running low buffer sizes, and it's basically the same as compared to the Focusrite Scarlett and Apogee Duet I had before this. Generally speaking, the bottlenecks that determine how low you can run your buffer are your CPU, RAM, whether you're using SSDs, etc. Of course, if you ever DO need to increase your buffer size, the Symphony has all of its direct monitoring capabilities that make dealing with latency trouble-free.
could you do the channel rack for vocals
Hi, nice test, what cable you use for connecting bass ? I mean brand of cable and model ? Very good results man ! Grazie ! :)
Hey there, I usually use Mogami Gold cables. They're expensive, but if one breaks, you can just exchange it for a new one.
Thank you for the answer. I have a question about latencies. In 44.1 at buffer 64 how much does the round trip logic show? Do you remember how much Scarlett showed? Thank you. Grazzie. :)
@@fonklangoryklangory2586 Don't remember the Scarlett, but at those settings with the SD it shows 9.3 ms roundtrip. I personally rarely worry about latency, since I'm either monitoring directly off the Symphony, or I use Low Latency mode in Logic
I understand. That's a lot. I remember Apogee Duet firewire, set to 44.1 at buffer 64, had 7.3ms RTL in Logic Pro X on core2duo Macbook Pro 15 ”2007. I do not understand. Desktop has great preamps, emulations, but for me it is important to work with software monitoring in Logic Pro X and RTL below 7ms. Which interface should I choose?
Can this be used without a computer attached?
At the moment, that doesn't seem to be a viable option, unfortunately.
Did you know it’s not possible to setup the reverb plugin for direct monitoring. That’s the most important thing while tracking. This is big bummer for the whole unit. I am trying to migrate from Apollo platform and got a Symphony Desktop. But I think I am going to return this and get back to my Apollo. This is basic. Their so called mixer doesn’t have a send and return for the reverb, neither can you insert it.
Hey Shyam, I don't know what platform you're on, but I asked Apogee a similar question, and here's what they said, at least as it pertains to Mac/Logic: "Concerning your question about reverb, we should be adding our proprietary Logic integration that's included with the Element and Ensemble into Desktop for the next release. This add the Direct button, so individual channels may be set to either software monitoring or direct monitoring. Another aspect of these features is that, even when you're direct monitoring and in record, the aux sends are still active. That way, you can send a Logic channel to a reverb even when you're direct monitoring. Yes, there's latency on the echo send, but hey, that's what reverb is!"
@@whytunes i had the same question, thanks for the answer, but i have to say: even what Apogee says is technically true, it is not at the same time. I mean, because of latency, what you hear from your reverb during recording and what you hear after playback may be different. Yes, you can match it afterwards, but why not just let the Reverb plugin run on DSP as well? And not everybody uses Logic
@@chatuugu1802 has this been solved?
@@whytunes do you get better quality out of this compares to the apollo twin duo mk2 ?
@@chatuugu1802 I know this is an old comment but I have this and an Apollo Twin X because I’m doing a video comparing them. I feel your pain. If you use an apollo for the reverb you still would have to pull it up in the DAW and match the settings to hear it back which is an extra step but the artist can still feel the vibe with no latency as they are recording. You do have the option to print but I wouldn’t print reverb. If Apogee had a DSP reverb that is dual path, man that would solve this. I wish they had pitch correction as well like UAD but I’m just dreaming