Drum Shells, Sound, Manufacturer Hype: Part 20 - Shell Wall Rigidity

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
  • WEAR HEADPHONES Just how important is rigidity to a drum shell. We are all used to seeing manufacturer comments about how rigid their shell walls are, and that is true. Of all the "non-drums" I have shown in the series, one example stands out as defying the hype. Take a look. Oh, and make sure you watch to the end. I added a little something extra. :-)

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  • @yourdogsnews
    @yourdogsnews 2 роки тому +2

    I used to work for Ayotte, now I work for a place making poker tables. We get a lot of scrap material that is too small for use to use, but could be used for other tings like small drums. You just game me an idea. Time to put some of those things I learned at Ayotte to good use.

    • @REFondrums
      @REFondrums  2 роки тому +2

      Amen. One man's scrap is another man's potential drum. :-)

  • @ARDrummer
    @ARDrummer 2 роки тому

    Always very informational...keep the videos coming!

  • @awmaace3397
    @awmaace3397 2 роки тому

    Hey I know how we could prove it once and for all... Ho about you make a hoop containing a tensioned head... Like that of dw pancake drum... And then we put that hoop to different shells without the need of extra tuning so that the tension will remain the same.. and hear the sound whether they differ or not

    • @awmaace3397
      @awmaace3397 2 роки тому

      I hope you get what i mean..,!!!

    • @REFondrums
      @REFondrums  2 роки тому

      @@awmaace3397 I think I get what you mean but, you'd really need two of them for batter and reso, and you would just want to seat them on the shells? I really don't see how the heads could be tensioned to a hoop, though.
      Having done 20 videos in the series thus far, I believe the point has been empirically proven with different examples.
      Thanks for watching.

    • @awmaace3397
      @awmaace3397 2 роки тому

      @@REFondrums ya know I believe it was impact drums that made the pre tensioned hoops... 😂 I do exists

    • @REFondrums
      @REFondrums  2 роки тому

      @@awmaace3397 Yeah, I just watched an rdavidr video the other day where he featured Impact drums. The days of the popularity of concert toms. I used them through all the 70s in some capacity or another. I even made a couple "North" drums from PVC elbows.
      In never saw any Impact drums up close and personal, and in watching the video I didn't see any obvious way the heads were attached and pretensioned.

  • @carlosmacmartin4205
    @carlosmacmartin4205 2 роки тому

    The sound of a drum is the heads? What are your thoughts on Mylar vs. Calfskin?

    • @REFondrums
      @REFondrums  2 роки тому

      Yes. The sound of a drum comes from striking drum heads, not striking drum shells. Drum shells handle sound waves thrown off by the heads in subtle, nuanced ways lost on the midst of music and bands, and can be modified by an army of electronic devices.
      I have heard calfskin heads. I've never played them. It's almost a sound void of the stick attack heard on plastic heads. Plastic heads were in use by the time I began playing in the mid-60s.
      I have always found it fascinating drumhead companies have a quest to reproduce the SOUND of calfskin heads. The various coatings and head materials they have come up with come close. They obviously know where the sound of a drum comes from.
      Super-hype and marketing has caused most of the drum manufacturers to make claims for proprietary plywood shells and sound that they, themselves, do not seek to prove to consumers. They just state what they want. They want to sell their drums; not some other companies heads; even though they most all put those company heads on their drums: Remo, Evans, Aquarian, Attack, whatever. Ludwig has used their own heads for decades. Most players change them out for another "sound." I always did. I always found Ludwig heads to be rather brittle sounding. Change the heads, change the sound of the drum. Dozens of those changes exist today.
      Whatever drum shells do to handle sound waves off heads, depending on shell wall density and depth, and other smaller parameters, has been so magnified by drum companies it's astounding. It never used to be that way when I was growing up. Back then it was hardware innovations and new finishes. Shells? Not so much. If anything they made the most of shell structure and integrity but, nothing about sound like is done today.
      Thanks for watching.