Hall Effect Analog Sticks Fitted to a SCUF Infinity PRO PS4 Controller
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2023
- That's right!! Hall Effect analogs for the PS4 controllers. I installed a set these sticks in a SCUF Infinity PRO controller.
Check out the video to see a deep dive inspection and install.
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that was the most beautiful de-soldering and soldering job I've ever seen
Thank you.
how does this channel not have millions of views
thanks for the video. just fitted both my scufs with these, works perfect
Where did you buy them from?
True Hall effect sticks may not completely eliminate stick drift since everything wears out eventually but at this point we need something more durable than the crap that is in controllers at the moment. I am happy to see some viable options now becoming available. Hopefully we will get options for other pads some time soon. I am looking at you XBOX! Also viable replacements for old pads such as the xbox,xbox 360,PS1,PS2 ,PS3 and any other aging pads would be amazing to see. So many worn out pads that could be resurrected rather than tossed without having to play good part or trash roulette online.
The plastics of the body and buttons will wear out sooner than the magnetic field for the hall sensors.
They also work in Xbox One / Series / Elite Pads, they all use 10k pots / hall sensors. And the sticks are available for the PS5 with 2.3k Sensors, too.
@@schwarzerafri9015so the one that work with xbox one s controller are the 10k one? Not the 2k3?
100% agree!
Wow you sure have some technique you got the moves bro!
I kept seeing these for fairly cheap compared to the joycon ones, I guess they really are legit. Definetly going to pick up a couple
yep, they seem very good quality.
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great video, and yeah it is annoying how people think a new set of shocks will keep the old crusty tyres from blowing over potholes. Hall are vastly more reliable due to being contactless, will stop out of the box and not beat up drift; but everything else is still getting mashed up by wear and tear..
We have some refurbished PS4 controllers with Hall Effect analogs installed for sale here:
www.ubermicro.co.uk/product-category/shop-area/refurbished-controllers/refurb-playstation-controllers/
To calibrate, did you turn the logo in the potentiometer hole in the case?
would the ps4 calibration software you featured in another video work for setting these dead center?
What are the temperature and aire pressure that you use for the hot air station? In addition, I noticed that the metal plate and the pcb holder was not in the description, what is it?
Nice Video what temperature did you set at the hot air station? Previous i desoldered with an iron it was not so fun...
Nice 👍.. I also thinking about that to improve my controllers but i already have a lot of Alps analogs 😂
I have over 3500 different kinds ALPS analogs in stock. Now I have to add another line.. It's never a good time to change. lol
i have installed in it to my fake ds4, it is look perfect and no need to recalibrate.
Very nice video.
but what is the 49331 element ?
what inside ? )))
how its working ?
where can i buy this ?
Please tell me where I can buy these hall effect sensors, and please confirm to me that these can work with Nintendo Switch Pro Controllers (since they use ALPS sticks like the PS4, PS5, and Xbox controllers).
EDIT: Never mind, I found the same sticks on the Uber Micro shop. All I need just a confirmation on whether these same sticks work on Nintendo Switch Pro Controllers.
do these require a separate controller board? or how does this work? why do some modules require a separate controller board?
What sort of weight spring is in them would you say the same tension as standard or slightly increased?
What’s a good temp to have my heat gun and soldering iron at in order to work on these boards?
Hi! My roller has a lot of stickdrift so I'd love to replace it with hall effect joysticks. Where did you buy these?
Whats the name of the solder sucker your using in the video
I don't understand how to calibrate the magnetic joysticks, could you explain?
What website did you use to center the sticks
I swear Sony used some kind of magical Sonium material made from the gods to solder those sticks on because even with using flux, adding fresh leaded solder, and using a hot air gun, and trying a solder sucker, NOTHING could get those fucking sticks off. I actually ended up melting the original joysticks plastic bits trying to remove it with hot air. Kudos to you for being able to get it off for these hall effect sticks. I just said forget it and sent the hall effects back to the shipper.
This is unrelated to this video, but I wanted to ask - you know the unresponsive face button issue with the Elite Series 2 controllers, which seems to affect the A button in particular? Are you able to repair that, or is it a design flaw that is not something you can fix?
We offer Elite 2 button repair as part of our service. Also rear paddles.
Hey, wanna ask. I repace it to hall analog aswell on motherboard JDM-040 and it doesnt work. Motherboard does not detected them. Have you any solution why? I see you have JDM-055.
That's cool they come with a custom magnetic sensor that can match the original output signal. I was thinking it was gonna need some add on board to go with it but everything is on the analog itself. Interesting and also that last ps4 battle beaver vid was a great late night watch for me before bed. 😁👍
Nice one! Yeah these are specifically for the PS4.
Hola, compre unos joystick de estos en aliexpres y al instalar el mando deja de funcionar, sabes q puede ser, gracias@@UberMicroRepairs
I don't quite understand the principle of calibrating the analogs, why is it necessary to insert the tips ?
How much to get two xbox controllers installed with thiese??? Im really tired of buy controller after controller only for them to drift after a month
Were i can puy the sticks
nice video, I got a question though, how did you calibrate it? I got a controller with the same sensor and it has around 0.04 upward in the right stick, do you just stick in that hole and randomly push the stick around until you get a lucky one and then pull out?
He calibrate sticks with tweezers, moving magnet near hall sensor.
Hi there, have you try to put these hall effect module to the dualsense edge module? I'm not sure if the voltage is ok
Voltage is not ok, not possible
I have a scuf reflex (ps5 scuf) with bad drift that I'd be happy to send you if you wanted to do a similar video with the hall effect thumbsticks
in dualsense, is possible?
@Uber Micro Repairs , what are you using to connect the controller board via usb to the pc? Thanks!
That's just the micro usb daughter board already in the controller
Can you elaborate on the calibration process, What software did you use to calibrate?
gamepadtester site
what temperature you are have on your heat gun ? you took it out very easy im struggling with it
Key is adding a bit of solder to the joints before heating them up
Can you order these thumbsticks for the ps5 controller also if you buy a ps4 controller stock can you install the scuf thumbsticks on it? @Uber Micro Repairs
Nicely done 👍. What temp and air speed do you use
Thanks man, Temp @ 400c Air flow @ 50% using an Atten ST-862D
You need to turn test circularity on & get the Average Error: To about 10.9% or lower with 3x3mm ohms resistance trim pots to reduce menu scrolling skip speed, this is fab stuff as foundational pot tech looks, good find 👍🏼.
Shrink the circle overshoot enough this could serve Dualsense also on 2K3 Pots with a lower resistance trim pot to equal the required value 😉😜😁🫸🏼🎮🫷🏼🙏🏼🕹️🕹️🎯🎯.
Thanks for the tips! Please don't take this personally (I'm extremely passionate about our repairs) but we do not and will NEVER use trim pots (Stick Drift Fix boards) or resistors. They are a lazy, hack fix IMO and we remove them on all controllers when we find them installed. We get all our sticks to calibrate to within 3% and full 100% range around the clock without any of those methods. We use the Controller tester coupled with DS4-Windows so I get the full raw analog reading not the default Windows calibration that has a default deadzone of 10%.
Again Trim pots (Stick Drift Fix boards) or resistors anything like that, we will never use as I believe they are a really bad fix and doesn't address the underlying cause of drift (which is the wear / dirt on the carbon track). Having to fix 10 - 15 controllers on top of consoles a day we have a fast, efficent and reliable method that mitigates the carbon track wear. Over the years I've see so many methods, some even including a full blown maths lesson, all amounting to wasted time. Especially as DS4 controllers can now be calibrated and the reading wirtten back to FW.
@@UberMicroRepairs I don't use fix boards either just the raw trim pots from 1M+1M minimum shrink, 1M, 500, 200, 100, 50, 30 & 20+20K max shrink twin & single trim pot combos for best results, it's not efficient but I discovered it all as a fully qualified know nothing using Grey 10.24K primary potentiometer sides 🫣, probably a crime by your standards but I made it work lol.
I fitted Xbox one elite series 2 sticks in my DS4 🎮 the same way, but with hall sides it could get better results 😉, there not very mechanically tight tolerance the series 2 pots I fitted.
My soldering skills are that of a child from looking at your speed, but I did painful research 🤷🏼♂️.
I custom built Analog stick tops better than anything out there & that's as far as I got, better than mod sticks & Xbox magnetic sticks & there modular to fit in anything that uses either the screw 🔩 pin of elite series 2 or traditional push fit 4mm plastic pins with 3mm width flats, best thing the markets may never see 🥺...
I'm sorry if we have already had this conversation? 🤔💭🧐 I can be a broken record 🤷🏼♂️.
@@UberMicroRepairs i already used the Calibration Tool and have a Flash Dump of my Controller. But it seems there is no option to restore it if something goes wrong. But for the most issues (like the expanding middle slot or some few %s off) the calibration tool is pretty nice.
Do you know how to flash the dump back if anything goes wrong (like usb connection error while writing the data) ?
@@UberMicroRepairsevening fella, how do you couple ds4windows with gamelan tester as I'm having major issues trying to test sticks on ps4/ps5 controllers lol.
What are you doing sticking the tweezers in there and moving the stick? Can you fix stick drift with the stock pots like this?
No. He's moving the magnet placing for the hall effect and normal sticks have potentiometers
Does the jittering affect performance on Apex Legends while playing on NONE deadzone?
The jittering does not affect the games, I already tested
Would these work on a Xbox series X controller? Specifically the scuf instinct Pro and do you do send ins for this modification?
Yes
disculpa la pregunta que tipo de estacion de calor usas y cuanta temperatura usas y cuanto de aire ? para sacarlo los joystick sin flux ¡?
No hay problema. Tengo un Atten ST-862D. Temp @ aproximadamente 395c y flujo de aire al 50%
@@UberMicroRepairs y el flux amigo q marca usas
@@mundogamersguayaquil2524 Here you go: ubermicro.co.uk/product/kingbo-soldering-flux-rma-218-10cc/
where did you buy those sensors? I want to get some
Yes, where?
Aliexpress
There is a calibration python script for PS4 controllers, makes install a lot easier.
the magnets will also lose magnetism over time causing drift or if left near a powerful magnet like a sub woofer for a week would be enough to change the field then you need to recalibrate them. wear and tear and the field even the hall sensor it self can fail. is why im always confused why people believe it can never drift.
I not sure the magnets would weaken enough. I'd bet wear and tear would happen to the module long before the magnet weakens. They are neodymium . There are Dreamcast and Xbox One controllers using standard ferrite magnets and hall effect sensors that are decades old now. All still work fine. I guess time will tell.
i had hall sensor Ps3 controller, 10 years no drift, perfect center. But yeah magnetism will get weaker true, but at that time you will be dead already.
@@chpoker69 Agreed. The PS3 analogs in the SIXAXIS controller suffered from worn out springs. The stick didn't return back to centre. I will predict the same will happen to these hall effect analogs.
I have two PS3 controllers since 2010 and never had stick drift so clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
OEM Dreamcast controllers don't have drift issues and they're two decades old. It is more likely that the magnetic field will outlast you as long as you treat the controller properly. I still have my OEM Dreamcast controllers and they work as good as the day I bought them.
Do you have any complaints from customers or not satisfied ?
All good. They work and track fine.
Can u give out the link for the sticks im trying to do this gr8 vid btw💙
Do these work on ps5? If so maybe I could make a modded ps5 controller with back buttons with these joystick. (Or probably pay you to add the joysticks lol)
Will the jittering be also filtered out on pc?
Should be.. Although it looks bad.. it's so minute I doubt it will really effect anything.
Most games come with a 10% dead zone for analog sticks. The jittering only occurs in a 2% zone. So nope, there wouldn't be any problem with any game. In fact the only way for it to become a problem would be by purposedly shrinking the deadzone using DS4Windows or a similar software.
good video just wondering is it fit on switch pro controller?
Thanks, As I said in the video I'm not sure they will.
Jitter? Cod work's?
How do you calibrate the errors?
ds4-tools and as the name suggests it only works for ds4 controllers.
Nice one. Could these work in a ps5 controller as well as some use the same modules
I remember I saw a post which says these won't work on dualsense since these require few more volts to operate which the dualsense don't provide.
So far I've not got them working on PS5 controllers. There are a few factor that are different like the PS5 uses a lower voltage and the pinout is rotated. Not to mention the pot resistance and range is different.
i tried and the controller does not work correctly. it takes some of the voltage out of circuit or something. the controller powers on, flashes twice and turns off. the R/L adaptive trigger motors will tick as well.
@@pootnannies Yeah.. The PS5 controller analog work on 1.7v and the hall analog need 3.3v also the Hall analogs need + and - to be the correct way round. They really just will not work. with out cutting traces and feeding them from a 3.3v supply. It's a lot of work even if you know what you are doing.
@@UberMicroRepairsI've seen a shop online claiming they are able to out hall effect sticks on a dual sense controller. From the looks of it, it seems like they are using the same module you are using. Maybe you can check them out. They're called PXP Repair from the Philippines.
- Dream come true, great job my friend 🔝🦾💯%'
Yes! Thank you!
Why didn't you cslibrate it with the software? Did you try it?
Because I wanted to show a true representation on how they where intended to be used. However. At the time of this video I used the software and the results wern't great. 9/10 times you get reduced travel in the diagonals when calibrated with the software. I have since figured out a method to get them calibrated and work spot on!
@@UberMicroRepairs so you found a calibration method where the travel in the diagonals are the same as the alps analog sticks?
I've installed these in a new dualshock. I watched your video. Can you give us another one showing software calibration as well? @@UberMicroRepairs
Or the magnet Lose ist magnetic function the the sticks are Bad too
Where can i buy these hall effect joysticks from ?
One of my Chinese suppliers. I may have them on our site for sale in a few weeks.
I'm adding a page to our website today to take interest in these analogs. If you fill in the form you'll get notified when we have them up for sale. Check out our site in 24 hours www.ubermicro.co.uk
Aliexpress
where do you get these?
One of my Chinese suppliers. I may have them on our site for sale in a few weeks.
Is it works with xbox series controllers?
Unfortunately not. Same for PS5 controllers. The operating voltage and polarity are incorrect. PS4 only! 😪
Can I purchase one ?
Яндекс переводчик отжигает: "Давай засунем это чучело обратно в скорлупу" :D
I want one
We have some refurbished PS4 controllers with Hall effect analogs installed for sale here:
www.ubermicro.co.uk/product-category/shop-area/refurbished-controllers/refurb-playstation-controllers/
why its shaking ???
Jitter thats what happes with these HE analogs. We have another method comming soon. That reduces the jitter and properly calibrates the centre and full range.
@@UberMicroRepairs i want ask its worth it or not ? bec bro if u keep desolder analog u lose the hole pads " ita happen to me" and u cant use the controller again . is this just one use and u will never solder again ??
sucks that we are in 2024 and things like dualsense edge cost hundreds and no hall effect
Cashing in on the parts that wear out!
@@UberMicroRepairs amen, seeing you mod these and repair is inspiring lol
is work on xbox one ??
We have somthing in the works coming soon for Xbox.
@@UberMicroRepairs good
The circularity tho. It will be wonky af in game
I have since worked out how to sort that. As long as the circularity is out side the 100% in the diaginals it will be fine. Even new out of the box DS5 controllers have wonky results on that test.
@UberMicroRepairs it will mean that the diagonal will reach the 100% ingame eariler than normal. Atleast for ps4/5. Its not fine
@@yu-yq4ic Again please ignore what you see in the video with the circularity test . I just made sure it got to 100% at the main 90 degree angles for the purpose of this video! Either way the circularity isn't a "be all and end all test". Aslong as the stick goes outside the 100% range in the diaginals IT'S FINE! Untill you have tested literally every brand of PS4 / 5 and Xbox controller Old new or repaired Broken beat & scarred. You would know circularity is just that websites interpretation of it!! Noting to do with Sony or M$ it just the RAW readings.
Yea, pc, xbox, and playstation games have different responce from the input. My concerns came from when ive installed off brand potentiometers into ps. It didnt pruduce the exact response of the defult sensor. For ps controller, ideally it should be calibrated to perfectly line up with the circle, atleast for ps
@@yu-yq4ic circularity doesnt make any difference in game.
Is there actually any working difference between the DS4, Dualsense & Xbox one hall effect potentiometers other than the fact they switched around the black & orange side mounts that you know of 🤷🏼♂️, or is it one fits all with an attempted segregation between products 😉, switching the L & R colour coding idea 💡 of these sticks 🕹️.
It looks like they are trying to pull a fast one for product segregation purposes 😂🤣😭, a one fits all option will destroy the scam of the old market & they/them 🫵🏼 know it 😜.
If you were to do a proper repair you would install the Hall effect driver board to allow proper calibration.
This was recorded before the boards was out, just published afterwards. Look at the rest of my videos to see how it's done. Becides that.. IF I WERE to do aproper repair I wouldn't use the redundant calibration boards on a PS4 controller I'd use the calibration software and do a evenmore proper-er job! 🙃
@@UberMicroRepairs I am not talking about the china junk of the pcb add ons. 🤣 those are in fact junk. If you knew who I was you would know that I know what I am talking about. Can find me in all the cell phone groups under the name of Shawn Blair.
@@UberMicroRepairs also looking over your videos not very impressed 🤷 if you truely knew hot to do a proper Hall effect install you would have driver board installs. Their spot on every time.
@@UberMicroRepairs also their is no software for Sony that will give you a proper calibration. What we use we have a complete 0 deadzone. You must be thinking of the cheap shitty boards that just increase the resistance.
These boards I am talking about takes all signals and adjusts them based on what you want and outputs those signals. Also not a noob here. I have been microsoldering since 2009. If you look in all the cell phone groups you will know who I am 🙄
Well...While your talking to the youtube channel owner.. uhm what are these boards your talking about? I wanna get some hall sticks for my ps4 controller and I'd like to calibrate it the right way as your stated. I'm personally not a fan of all the jittering i saw in the video@@TheModgenius
Отцентруй их программой.
The diagonals are pretty terrible on this stick, I don't like it.
Mount these analogs and test them on console games, and you'll change your mind 👍,
I live in Poland, I tested these analogs and I'm sure they work very well, now I ordered analogs for Xbox One and PS5 pads.
Does it work on ps5?
Need your thought cuz I'm seeing the one for ps5 on aliexpress
@@fnoorf I haven't received the shipment with analogs for Xbox One and PS5 yet, but analogs with Hall sensor matching PS4 work well because I tested
doesnt make a difference in game.
where do you buy your sticks and what specific modell?
why cant i get the Analog Sticks out that easy?