You did the best review of all that I have watched so far. You are realistic, know your machine has limits and if you exceed them you will damage it and be unhappy with it. Will look for more of your videos, again thank you for your honesty and efforts. From the US.
I also appreciate your common sense and frankness Dave. Just like an earlier viewer’s comments, I also bought a 12P mainly after watching some of your earlier videos and have done over 50 hours work on my farm removing stumps and laying irrigation, drainage and cabling. Perfect size for this work.
The rippers were originally known as frost rippers and therefore used by folks in cold climates when digging in frozen ground. Eventually, people found that they were great for stumping and such. I really want one for stumping!
Hey Dave, I have the 12p model and live in weipa. I trailered it myself from Townsville. So far the stick rake and ripper are the most used attachments so far, I have removed some stumps that I wouldn’t have believed possible with a 1t machine. I’m currently putting in 150m of fencing and the machine is proving its worth. I could have paid contractors the price of the machine already and only had a portion of the work done. I wish I was better at filming to show how good these machines really are.
Something else to consider regarding the question of what size machine to buy is how much weight do you want to tow around if you’re taking it to job sites.
Yes good point Paul. I have a 2 tonne dual axle trailer I can move my 1.2 on but if I upgraded to a bigger machine I would need to buy a bigger trailer. Although in 3 years I haven't needed to move it from the farm. Cheers Dave
Hi Dave. Always enjoy your videos. Your comments are always reasonable and helpful. I only have about 30 hours on my mini-ex. Just did the fluid/filter change. Also, I finally found a solution to what you mentioned about the jerkiness of some of these machines. Mine was very much an issue. I installed and dialed in adjustable flow restrictors on the 3 boom/bucket cylinders and now they are much smoother. I still need to do the same on the hydraulic swing and tracks. Keep the good videos coming.
The ripper tooth is good for taking out small roots. Another reason to use the ripper tooth is hard ground. Can break up the hard ground first then dig out. The log grappler is one I think is a waste. The other thing I can see you could use is a tilt bucket. Having a hydraulic thum is a must.
my attachments came with the machine. you might not use all the attachments often, but the time will come when you might. e.g i used my log grabber once in 4 years, but i'm glad i had it when i needed it. on another note does any one have a bung plug for a final drive motor they don't need. Harry in Sydney reckons they don't stock them. thanks
The auger drive on my machine I have plumbed up to run on the left foot control. I f you could attached a mixer to it, you would need an operator in the machine all the time to keep it running. Cheers Dave
Thanks dave for the vid. I have a 12P in large part from watching your informative vids. Eventually all attachments will probably get used as you say it largely depends on what jobs are being done. Have found the rake in combination with the thumb you can't go past when dealing with bamboo root runners. The log grabber hasn't been used on my block in NQ as of yet. Just waiting for the next cyclone to blow in then it will get a work out u4true!
The UHI UME 12P is a good machine Ian. Interested to know if you think it is hard to operate with the side controls as some have mentioned they are not as smooth as the previous model. Cheers Dave
@@TreeChangeFarmer The pilot controls can be a bit snappy for sure Dave especially when you attempt > 2 hydraulic moves at the same time. Limit it to two max and you won't get surprises. Why this is I'm not sure though when the travel control levers were extended to save my back when on the move, the result was longer lever travel to work the hydraulics giving more sensitive feedback ... perhaps that's what's going on with the pilot controls ... not sure haven't had a look. The 16HP 12P engine is not overpowered as some may think. It shines traveling up slopes compared to the much heavier kubota 17's with the same engine that used to get hired. I shouldn't think that would affect the pilot controls. Being light and powerful is a big plus and that to me is a beaut trade off. I don't think the current model 12 P's have the same D902 engines though. What I do know is once you have one on the block they become indispensable ... just a beaut versatile machine ... and thanks again for the vids you put together Dave ... they go down well and are a great help.
Iv had the Chinese 1 cylinder motor and the 3 cylinder kubota. Now a yanmar engine. I’d pick the kubota or yanmar any day. The first Chinese engine ran away at 50 hours or so. What I have found in terms of size, once you step up to a 1.7 your actual size steps up considerably. The 1.2 I had i was working under a house with it once. As a hobby farm these machines are great value for money, for a professional trady they are also great value but you are slowed down by slow tracking and slower performance, the buckets arnt set up right for efficient digging. Parts are way cheaper than a brand name machine. If I had my time again entering into the market I’d go straight to a mid range Chinese machine, I found a 1.4 machine for around 23k mark, final drive motors, side stick controls, hydraulic thumb, swing boom, expanda tracks, dual pump, long boom. But I use it every second day basically. The quality in that range is a lot better than the entry price range of $11000. You get what you pay for.
All good points. What I have noticed in the last year there are a lot more brands appearing on the market than before, especially in the "budget range" area up to 1.7 tonnes. At the field days I was looking at the 1.7 machines (a bit better than what I have) and the SANY 16C was $29,900, while the CASE 17C was $39,000 and the JOHN DEERE E18ZS was $43,000. I like the room in the operator area on the SANY and the solid hydraulic pipes on the boom , Yanmar engine and a 5 year warranty. It is a "better' quality Chinese machine but not in the "name" brand price range (the JOHN DEERE BTW is being built by Wacker Neuson in China). Cheers Dave
I have a UHI tractor with backhoe and often wonder if a dedicated mini ex would have been a better choice. I notice though that your block is fairly flat, whereas mine is super hilly and rocky and I was concerned there was too much risk of tipping an excavator. The tractor is pretty scary at anything over 10deg side slope, and am looking to ballast the rear tyres to help
Hey Dave another awesome video thank you! If money was not a question and you wanted to upgrade would you buy another 12 or would you go for a 15..... And why? Where torn between the two but tempted by the greater power... What do you think? How use is on a country property, like you, so we don't have to worry about the weight of towing it around.
The 1.5 machine looks a little different from the 1.2 because it has a rear cover that flips out to make it easier to access the engine. I asked UHI about this and they said the 1.5 was popular with farmers because it made the service easier and quicker than say on the 1.2 that I have where you have to take multiple panels off the get to filters etc. (this is on my older machine - the newer UME12P has good access via the large rear door). If money was no problem I would buy a CAT 301.7 CR, or to save some dollars I would buy a SANY 16C and if I was on a real tight budget I would buy the UHI UME18 with the included attachments. Cheers Dave
I still use the pallet forks regularly Jim. What I don't like is the forks are a RHS square tube rather than flat tynes and are difficult at time to get under a pallet. I would also take to the front of the forks with a cutter and bevel off the leading edge as the standard ones have a square front that tend to hit the middle support under a pallet. Cheers Dave.
All of the equipment sold in Australia is rated with the operator weight included. So a 1.2 tonne machine would be machine weight of 1.1 tonne with an operator at 100 kg. Cheers Dave.
Hey Dave, talked to sales rep and he immediately tried to upsell me to next size up as he claimed the 1 cylinder diesel was to noisy, the 3 cylinder is better. What is your opinion? Do you wear hearing protection when using it for a while?
Yes I would agree. In the later models of the smaller machine they changed the location of the exhaust to try and keep it quieter. It did not really work as you will need hearing protection. My machine with the three cylinder Yanmar just idles along as is very quiet. I don't wear any hearing protection. But is that worth the price difference? Cheers Dave.
I imagine that you use the ripper to cut roots on trees, to be able to get the stump out of the ground. Edit: and thats what you did later in the video :)
Yo tengo una maquina China , una maquina de triturar ramas de arboles , y la verdad es que la calidad supera al precio , los Chinos venden mas barato por que trabajan mas horas que nosotros .
You did the best review of all that I have watched so far. You are realistic, know your machine has limits and if you exceed them you will damage it and be unhappy with it. Will look for more of your videos, again thank you for your honesty and efforts.
From the US.
I also appreciate your common sense and frankness Dave. Just like an earlier viewer’s comments, I also bought a 12P mainly after watching some of your earlier videos and have done over 50 hours work on my farm removing stumps and laying irrigation, drainage and cabling. Perfect size for this work.
The rippers were originally known as frost rippers and therefore used by folks in cold climates when digging in frozen ground. Eventually, people found that they were great for stumping and such. I really want one for stumping!
Hey Dave, I have the 12p model and live in weipa. I trailered it myself from Townsville.
So far the stick rake and ripper are the most used attachments so far, I have removed some stumps that I wouldn’t have believed possible with a 1t machine.
I’m currently putting in 150m of fencing and the machine is proving its worth.
I could have paid contractors the price of the machine already and only had a portion of the work done.
I wish I was better at filming to show how good these machines really are.
I dream about the log grabber and rake. Perfect at my place. Great video as always Dave.
The ripper is great for digging a line/small trench when planting a shelterbelt or large hedge, really helps the plants get going.
Something else to consider regarding the question of what size machine to buy is how much weight do you want to tow around if you’re taking it to job sites.
Yes good point Paul. I have a 2 tonne dual axle trailer I can move my 1.2 on but if I upgraded to a bigger machine I would need to buy a bigger trailer. Although in 3 years I haven't needed to move it from the farm. Cheers Dave
Hi Dave. Always enjoy your videos. Your comments are always reasonable and helpful. I only have about 30 hours on my mini-ex. Just did the fluid/filter change. Also, I finally found a solution to what you mentioned about the jerkiness of some of these machines. Mine was very much an issue. I installed and dialed in adjustable flow restrictors on the 3 boom/bucket cylinders and now they are much smoother. I still need to do the same on the hydraulic swing and tracks. Keep the good videos coming.
Thanks for watching again Patrick. Interesting about the adjustable flow restrictors. Will have to look into this mod. Cheers Dave
The ripper tooth is good for taking out small roots. Another reason to use the ripper tooth is hard ground. Can break up the hard ground first then dig out. The log grappler is one I think is a waste.
The other thing I can see you could use is a tilt bucket. Having a hydraulic thum is a must.
Thanks dave!, great answers
my attachments came with the machine. you might not use all the attachments often, but the time will come when you might. e.g i used my log grabber once in 4 years, but i'm glad i had it when i needed it. on another note does any one have a bung plug for a final drive motor they don't need. Harry in Sydney reckons they don't stock them. thanks
The log grabber is excellent for removing small trees and roots
So right Dave, better than a shovel.
"Better than a shovel!"
A cement mixer bowl that attracted to the auger would be handy
The auger drive on my machine I have plumbed up to run on the left foot control. I f you could attached a mixer to it, you would need an operator in the machine all the time to keep it running. Cheers Dave
Thanks dave for the vid. I have a 12P in large part from watching your informative vids.
Eventually all attachments will probably get used as you say it largely depends on what jobs are being done.
Have found the rake in combination with the thumb you can't go past when dealing with bamboo root runners.
The log grabber hasn't been used on my block in NQ as of yet. Just waiting for the next cyclone to blow in then it will get a work out u4true!
The UHI UME 12P is a good machine Ian. Interested to know if you think it is hard to operate with the side controls as some have mentioned they are not as smooth as the previous model. Cheers Dave
@@TreeChangeFarmer The pilot controls can be a bit snappy for sure Dave especially when you attempt > 2 hydraulic moves at the same time. Limit it to two max and you won't get surprises.
Why this is I'm not sure though when the travel control levers were extended to save my back when on the move, the result was longer lever travel to work the hydraulics giving more sensitive feedback ... perhaps that's what's going on with the pilot controls ... not sure haven't had a look.
The 16HP 12P engine is not overpowered as some may think. It shines traveling up slopes compared to the much heavier kubota 17's with the same engine that used to get hired. I shouldn't think that would affect the pilot controls. Being light and powerful is a big plus and that to me is a beaut trade off. I don't think the current model 12 P's have the same D902 engines though.
What I do know is once you have one on the block they become indispensable ... just a beaut versatile machine ... and thanks again for the vids you put together Dave ... they go down well and are a great help.
good one mate and you are right everything is MIC
and it beats using a shovel I need one
Iv had the Chinese 1 cylinder motor and the 3 cylinder kubota. Now a yanmar engine.
I’d pick the kubota or yanmar any day. The first Chinese engine ran away at 50 hours or so.
What I have found in terms of size, once you step up to a 1.7 your actual size steps up considerably. The 1.2 I had i was working under a house with it once.
As a hobby farm these machines are great value for money, for a professional trady they are also great value but you are slowed down by slow tracking and slower performance, the buckets arnt set up right for efficient digging. Parts are way cheaper than a brand name machine.
If I had my time again entering into the market I’d go straight to a mid range Chinese machine, I found a 1.4 machine for around 23k mark, final drive motors, side stick controls, hydraulic thumb, swing boom, expanda tracks, dual pump, long boom. But I use it every second day basically. The quality in that range is a lot better than the entry price range of $11000. You get what you pay for.
All good points. What I have noticed in the last year there are a lot more brands appearing on the market than before, especially in the "budget range" area up to 1.7 tonnes.
At the field days I was looking at the 1.7 machines (a bit better than what I have) and the SANY 16C was $29,900, while the CASE 17C was $39,000 and the JOHN DEERE E18ZS was $43,000. I like the room in the operator area on the SANY and the solid hydraulic pipes on the boom , Yanmar engine and a 5 year warranty. It is a "better' quality Chinese machine but not in the "name" brand price range (the JOHN DEERE BTW is being built by Wacker Neuson in China). Cheers Dave
I have a UHI tractor with backhoe and often wonder if a dedicated mini ex would have been a better choice. I notice though that your block is fairly flat, whereas mine is super hilly and rocky and I was concerned there was too much risk of tipping an excavator. The tractor is pretty scary at anything over 10deg side slope, and am looking to ballast the rear tyres to help
Hey Dave another awesome video thank you! If money was not a question and you wanted to upgrade would you buy another 12 or would you go for a 15..... And why? Where torn between the two but tempted by the greater power... What do you think? How use is on a country property, like you, so we don't have to worry about the weight of towing it around.
The 1.5 machine looks a little different from the 1.2 because it has a rear cover that flips out to make it easier to access the engine. I asked UHI about this and they said the 1.5 was popular with farmers because it made the service easier and quicker than say on the 1.2 that I have where you have to take multiple panels off the get to filters etc. (this is on my older machine - the newer UME12P has good access via the large rear door). If money was no problem I would buy a CAT 301.7 CR, or to save some dollars I would buy a SANY 16C and if I was on a real tight budget I would buy the UHI UME18 with the included attachments. Cheers Dave
Dave, what is your opinion of the pallet forks now that you've had them for a while.
I still use the pallet forks regularly Jim. What I don't like is the forks are a RHS square tube rather than flat tynes and are difficult at time to get under a pallet. I would also take to the front of the forks with a cutter and bevel off the leading edge as the standard ones have a square front that tend to hit the middle support under a pallet. Cheers Dave.
95 / 5.000
Hi friend, when you talk about weight, are you talking about the operating weight or the weight of the machine?
All of the equipment sold in Australia is rated with the operator weight included. So a 1.2 tonne machine would be machine weight of 1.1 tonne with an operator at 100 kg. Cheers Dave.
It may be made in China but it's still better than a shovel!
Absolutely! Cheers Dave.
Hey Dave, talked to sales rep and he immediately tried to upsell me to next size up as he claimed the 1 cylinder diesel was to noisy, the 3 cylinder is better.
What is your opinion? Do you wear hearing protection when using it for a while?
Yes I would agree. In the later models of the smaller machine they changed the location of the exhaust to try and keep it quieter. It did not really work as you will need hearing protection. My machine with the three cylinder Yanmar just idles along as is very quiet. I don't wear any hearing protection. But is that worth the price difference? Cheers Dave.
I imagine that you use the ripper to cut roots on trees, to be able to get the stump out of the ground.
Edit: and thats what you did later in the video :)
Yo tengo una maquina China , una maquina de triturar ramas de arboles , y la verdad es que la calidad supera al precio , los Chinos venden mas barato por que trabajan mas horas que nosotros .