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These people are corrupt...but NOT stupid
Err! In cases in the last 13 years I would beg to differ, Nadine Dorries, Truss, Mogg and the rest of the self serving incompetents!
No. They're definitely also stupid.
They are
how wrong you are, they are entirely both.
Stupid to think they would get away with what they did.
Listen, it was hard work buying all that prosecco and quaffing it down whilst emailing PPE contracts to all our mates.
They brought in a wine chiller cabinet , that's how frequent these events were taking place .
Wine time Fridays and then there was the parties on top.
Lessons were learned. Next time they'll buy it all in bulk and lie better 🍷🍷🍾🍹
"Well said!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👍
Bring yer own booze
Wasn't just Tories, plenty other business's who weren't politically aligned made lots of money too
I shall NEVER forget these evil people. To this day poor souls still comply with the 'medical intervention'..
Sadly, you can't reason with trauma. Likely they will need these crutches for the rest of their days.
THE NEW BRITAIN IS CORRUPTED. THEY ARE LIKE ANIMAL, THROW SOME FOOD AND THEY WILL BE CORRUPTED. A CORRUPTED COUNTRY WHO TELLS THE WORLD NOT TO CORRUPT.
Corruption in its purest form.
I’d like to say I’m shocked but sadly I’m not. In fact I’m not even vaguely surprised but I am absolutely disgusted with the rank hypocrisy of ALL politicians and their minions.
But I distinctly remember Boris saying there were no parties…
And he spoke the truth: it was a continuous party and.... he was under influence (alcohol) so he has a genuin memory proble
@@johannesnicolaas Did he have Covid or was he in hospital for Alcohol abuse?
Should be in court the lot of them crimes against the British people
They knew 100% what they were up to . People couldn't see loved ones
People needlessly died . Businesses were sunk . Depression now is at its highest . They knew their heinous actions . Trials now please . No more waffle
Don't expect any significant positive actions from this enquiry. From Hillsborough to Horizon and Andrew Malkinson, the various arms of the state in this country will always close ranks, whatever the cost.
Enquiries are to learn lessons.
Hillsborough led to criminal proceedings. Though they were ultimately unsuccessful.
Like our lives!
@@verystripeyzebralesson 1: don’t expect humanity from a Tory government.
@@djoldschool more interesting will they find negligence, criminally culpable behaviour, corruption.
@djoldschool Whigs vs Tories? I don't think so. They are both in on it. Otherwise, we'd see more than lip service.
They cut the next few minutes of the questioning where she admited she did go to a drinks party and broke rules after all, despite denying it
She bought the karaoke machine to a party 😅
Dear god what an example in her position
I have zero respect or trust in politicians
100% agree!
It appears the upper class private school debating lessons are paying off....if yore good enough at it you can talk your way out of anything.
"Of course I'm sorry, I got caught"
So what I'm hearing is that EVERYONE in the building, was breaking the rules, BUT no one is going to be held responsible for it,.........................
Cos they were 'mistakes' dear boy.....''mistakes'. & we've all just floated up the river on a shower of bubbles. How they have the brass neck to come out with shi**e like this & expect us to believe them's insulting. & don't get me started on her bleating on about them working hard. Dear Goddddd.
The crime was the making of the rules, not the breaking of them. Where is the questioning of the people dreaming up this insane unscientific nonsense.
and nobody is going ask why they were not frightened of Covid. I know.
Let's be honest, about 95%of the entire population didn't follow the rules...and I'd call into question the honesty of the other 5%
I copied the behaviour of the politicians. @@garybrooks5296
Why aren't these people in jail?
these politicians and civil servants dont give a hoot about what we think.
I can guarantee no 'lessons will be learnt and this sort of hypocrisy will happen again
One more point.
These weren’t “mistake” they were deliberate lies.
The word mistake indicates an error of knowledge.
These actions were on the basis of certain knowledge
they were a breach of morality.
They were purposeful consciously taken knowing
so when this woman says that “mistakes were made” she is using language to hide the fact that these people are dishonest liars
And lying is not a mistake.
It’s a choice
Spot on ! 👏👏👏
Just wash your hands and sing happy birthday three times 😅😅
They now use the word “inadvertently” a lot to allay any blame. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Correct.
Yes gaslighting
Why didn't she used her mouth at the time if she didn't like what was going on she should have walked out.Instead moaning now about everyone but her self.
Like everyone else stuck in an awkward situation, maybe they liked having a job.
Tories don't have rules, they have a party
and you lot elected them
Correct and Starmer did the same, disgusting .
@lestrem11 except he didn't, he followed rules. This has been proven after a police investigation. The Daily Mail isn't the police.
For the time being they'd rather be seen as forgetful rather than corrupt and manage and deflect constituent perceptions later.
@@paulkerr2654 If you drink at work it is instant dismissal. So he ( and Rayner ) should resign or except they broke Covid rules. You wouldn’t get away with it, why should they ,child.
What you don’t mention is that they both denied drinking and Rayner denied even being there.
Grow up, they are all the same.
Downing Street? More like Drowning Street.
she managed to find a chuckle. how sweet
Lying comes so easily to them. I bet she was thinking about dinner when her mouth was moving.
So the excuses came anyway. Pathetic. And she didn't think businesses across the country didn't have to cope around the country? Pathetic again.
She seemed out of touch with a lot of peoples lives.
Massive respect to all these people who are remorseful about everyone else's bad behaviour. But claim no responsibility or can't even remember what they did or said when witnessing said bad behaviour.
They sound like the SS at Nuremburg!
@@711honvedAn admirable analysis
👍
I have no respect for anyone of them whether they were present or not.
The toxic culture of today's society: from downing street, police, msm, social services, local councils, ect, ect
NO one today, has the backbone to take responsibility , states the book stops with me and resigns.
Until l witness that, no one will ever get my respect; you earn it!
They are all narcissistic idiots and that is why this country is now in a dangerous situation.
They so shameless as they know they can't get accountability
To quote Basil Fawlty: Is that what made Britain great?! "I'm so sorry, I made a mistake!"
Saying sorry is not enough. People need to be held accountable.
The only thing I wanted to hear helen mcnamara say is "I resign"
No attempt at explanation or justification... just resignation...
Since i work in a big corporation, i can say it is the same thing, rules are not followed and there is always big propaganda for the outside and share holder world to show how serious we are. Corruption, plain and simple.
Have you ever seen dictators and tyrants following their rules?????
The truth is that they knew it was bollocks, like any sensible person would know
2 simple rules for life;
No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
Listen, the truth is I hold the electorate in total contempt, but when we got caught I realise I had to show contrition, totally false of course, but one has to play the part you know.
Why didn’t the government speak to ‘Del Bigtree’ of ‘The Highwire’. His team talked to all the right experts and got things right at every step. His podcasts even got thrown off YT as misinformation since they were so spot on, week after week. We need a proper Nuremberg 2.0 with long jail time for the opportunists.
Because that was never the plan. Politicians followed their orders. They knew it was a complete hoax.
I find it very difficult to listen to confirmation of what some of us were thinking was happening at the time. What is even worse is the knowledge that absolutely nobody will be punished in any way for it 😢
Even this inquiry is corrupt ..just making money for their public school chums. And we pay for it
Wow Double Standards, who would believe it?
She gave her evidence very clearly and lucidly. However, the KC lawyer was for the most part of his questioning, not only giving her a very easy ride, but he seemed to be ‘guiding’ her and prompting her as to what conclusions she should draw from each of her recollections. I’m sure she was a honest witness, but she seemed to indicate in her evidence, she was merely a spectator all this time while she was in her post, which I find it extremely difficult to believe. The fact is, because of her role, she also must bear a degree of responsibility, like all the other civil servants, rather than dumping it all on the PM and Hancock.
Yeah, the lawyer seems to have entered with a conclusion he wants to draw. He was forever telling people to stop giving him context.
Nicely glossing over how she was described,how her knowledge wasn’t either accepted or used by „“the schoolboys“ running the show. No wonder that she and many other decent civil servants resigned,rather than be party to such incompetence,lies chaos and corruption.
Any working woman should listen to as much of her evidence as possible……and learn,how they will be treated by men.
@@mikehutchison4892 I have no doubt that in this state of crisis, the men in cabinet were more vociferous and more plain speaking in their views. However, having attended many meetings, both professionally and socially, there is strong tendency for men to be more direct in their speech and their voices also project more into the meeting room, which for a woman can be intimidating. However, she could have been more challenging but she chose perhaps wisely to retreat into the background. However, by ‘backing down’ and staying silent she was perhaps seeking a way out of fulfilling her responsibilities. I don’t criticise her for that entirely as the atmosphere in cabinet meetings may have been tempestuous, with competing points of view. Dr Jordan Peterson made a fundamentally important point when saying that as a gender, women are more likely to be ‘co-operate’ in meetings at the workplace and less likely to ‘go out on a limb’ as they seek a peaceful consensus, which in the case of men, is generally not the case. Women dislike generally dislike and eschew verbal aggression in meetings and that’s no bad thing as cooler heads should prevail. But we don’t live in an ideal world, and the emotional psychology and make up of women will always be different to men.
@geoffm9944 Jordan Peterson is not actually a scientist and has some questionable views unsubstantiated by evidence.
Your assertion that Women are more willing to find consensus in a group, whether true or not, doesn't answer any questions about the influence of culture.
I seems that the implication is that this is inherent to the female gender. The evidence is not there.
@@englishcitystone1663 Dr Jordan Peterson and many other clinical psychologists have carried out studies where generally women outscore men in the area of agreeableness. Also women score highly generally in their openness to other points of views, where men can be more dogmatic. It’s also been cited in these studies that women are less interested in power play, but more interested in wanting to see harmony in the workplace. Being agreeable is a commendable quality as in the workplace, however, in many cases it can be detrimental to the woman’s role in the group. The desire to pursue harmony and consensus however can often clash with a woman trying to handle conflict in meetings and generally in the workplace. For example, when your priority is to get along, you avoid conflict and disagreement because you perceive it as a breach between you and the other person. For you, being on different sides of an issue is equivalent to being unable to cooperate. But conflict and disagreement, as university business studies show, are critical for the progress of teams and projects. A bad idea can be mistaken for a good one when no one dares to disagree. Men will often disagree quite violently but that’s not part of the psychology of many women. The result here, in the case of this female civil servant, she avoided conflict and retreated outside and remained on the periphery. Why? Perhaps she feared damaging her relationship with others in the cabinet committee. Also, she took the tactical step of retreating as a way of taking the heat out of the situation because she may have thought that taking a firm stance on a matter would make others walk out on her, hence preventing collaboration. However, by leaving the field of the battle of ideas, she acquiesced, and thus was prepared to put her goals at risk. I sympathise with her plight, but this is my reading of the situation.
Margaret Thatcher put it this way: “If you just set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time you will achieve nothing.”
She brought the karaoke machine to one of the parties.
And was fined
No apologies....jail time and or serious fines!
Jail time
Let's have less about how she feels and more about what happened.
‘Worked really hard’ what about those in the NHS? We’re they not ‘working hard’ and doing so within the rules and at much greater risk? A completely sanctimonious person..
Working hard at dance routines is all that I can remmeber.
Remember the Daily Mail going ballistic about some nurses doing a Tick Tock video !
Have they ever made a comment about Party gate or the Covid inquiry ?
The hypocrisy and gas lighting by the MSM has truly been vomit inducing.
Those dance routines didn’t choreograph themselves
Not at all. They were on their phones and twiddling their thumbs. Then outside in the unusually warm weather in April of 2020. Opening presents/gifts stuffing their faces with junk food.
Oh wow she could talk her way out of a room with no doors...... imagine having to come home to that every night... I bet her partner just sits there with ear plugs in
Sounds like a wimp who regards working "really hard" in return for an enormous salary (£165,000) is unfair. It's tough in our civil service. Thank goodness she's got an enormous inflation linked pension to fall back on.
We knew they weren’t following the rules ,they weren’t working tirelessly , they were just effing around instead of dealing with the situation and doing their jobs, rules are for the peasants wot ! wot!. Yet they tried to spin a tissue of lies.probably none of the even took the 💉💉💉
Mogg, who was obnoxious and rude to people who didn't want to go back to the office, needs to be brought up on this.
He's a piece of work.
Only sorry cus she got caught out. These people are laughing at us. Nothing will happen and if anyone goes to prison. It will be the cleaner or someone.
Whats going to be the outcome of this enquiry? No-one is going to get punished as we were by the covid rules?
I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
That is not the point of an enquiry.
It is upto the police and the CPS to look at and see I'd there is any criminal activity that is able to be prosecuted.
But seeing as both are under the purview of the current government, obviously unlikely.
This enquiry is set to take 5 years, therefore into another government and that is when it is more likely it may lead to anything.
BUT only if there is enough public outcry.
If by then the public has moved on, definitely nothing will happen.
It will be a complete whitewash, that's what it will be 😡
Its a puppy show for dummies.
Enquiries are to enquire not prosecute.
Criminal proceeding may follow, depending on the conclusions.
One rule for thee and one for me
They had the Rolling stones round downing Street. How come they aren't in prison?.
Scandalous 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Next time to meet a Conservative voter, look them in the eyes and ask them how they feel it is reasonable to do that as a decent human being?
This woman along with all the rest of them are totally corrupt, they lie through their back teeth. Disgraceful and shameless. She wasn't one bit bothered at the time it was all fun and games. Only now its come to light and the truth has come out she plays the remorse card. They should all be infront of a judge.
'i wasn't partying '
You brought a karaoke machine...
And was fined
If she was that uncomfortable why didn't she say??
They all broke the rules and they're all still alive, just goes to show how much we needed the rules.
Did Boris really have Covid? I have doubts!
I wondered about that too.
@@marciawalters7528no he's a good liar and actor😊.
@@marciawalters7528 strange how all MPs were exempt from taking the clot shot!! I refused all vaccines since that!!
I reckon he was switched when he had convid
I don't know how old I was then...
Love, it was 2 years ago.
Explaining how people didn’t obey or did obey stupid rules isn’t going anywhere.
What is the intended outcome of this inquiry and will anybody be made to pay the price for their unforgivable behavior? I very much doubt it.
Further more who is actually paying for this fiasco that is set to go on for several more weeks , probably the tax paying public.
Well, at least she let the Public understand this now, eh?
ofcourse they didnt follow the rules , we all knew it was one rule for them and one rule for us !!!!! , where are all the fines for those in parliament that breached covid regulations !!!!!!!
People didn’t comply because people could see through the bullshittery of Sage, hanCOCK etc
This farce goes on and on...
Satire: Anyone for a party? See you at number 10.... Don't worry about lockdown or the public we're exempt... Your loving PM, Doris
The Right Honourable Baroness Heather Hallett DBE and Hugo Keith KC will hopefully provide the citizens of the United Kingdom with hope that this catastrophically incompetent governing will never be repeated for the sake of our children!
How can you take a programme seriously when the title has "it's" when it means "its"?
Very eloquent but being a high ranking official in the civil service she should have known better and called out rule breaking, so she is tarnished with the same brush. If anyone in my office broke the rules they would have been sacked, yet these politicians and civil servants walk away scot free probably into a nice paid job somewhere.
Having these people in charge and hoping for a successful outcome is the same as taking driving lessons from Mike Tyson
The emails that queried how many people should be in a metting but not haow many people could be at a party? And if she wasn't there who provided the karaoke machine and was issued a FPN? I thought these witnesses were under oath
What gets me is why anyone is surprised and why anyone believed any of it?
There are very few MPS worth any vote whatsoever they should be facing jail time.
Do as I say, and don't do as I do 🙄🤬
She made that choice to break the rules
No accountability. She got fined
Why did the countries best medical and scientific experts give the government their nightly blessings on tv?
Because the experts who disagreed were censored so you only heard what the government wanted you to hear.
Because they were not the best medical and scientific experts. They were simply there as mouthpieces for the agenda, which was to terrify people into taking an untested medical intervention. The best medical and scientific experts were silenced and censored. I was lucky enough to see Mike Yeadon in Canterbury. How often was he on the BBC?
Spain lost virtually no one in a couple of retirement homes. How did they do that.
@@DCGreenZone Spain lost many in the care homes after the injection was rolled out but did well before that. Maybe they weren't using Hancock's lethal medicine and less ventilators, gave the sick a chance to breathe.
@@patrickbrewer6608 Good catch, did you see the paper on the NIH that showed how they lost zero patients early on? I'd link it, but I'm tired of being kicked by YT.
She comes across as a typical smarmy civil servant, she may well be right but who IS running the country?
There is no such thing as a typical civil servant. You are just airing your own prejudices
Put Boris Johnson and his whole bunch in prison!!!!!!! criminals
That's because they knew the rules were stupid.
Animals, then that's disrespectful to animals😮
THE TORY PARTY ... the clue was in the name!
And yet these people still behave as if it was real and anyone not accepting it was real needs to be prosecuted.
Demonstration of just how powerful the grip of the pharmaceutical propaganda machine is on civil servants the legal profession and accountancy. What a true mockery of democracy it is when the voice of the people is completely ignored in favour of manipulative greed
Are you ok??
What on earth are you on about.
@@verystripeyzebra your inability to understand straightforward English is your problem not mine. But you need to keep your own opinions to yourself as you are of limited intelligence and you should listen carefully to those who clearly know better than you
Yes WTF are you talking about ?
@@marksykes1191 keep your trap shut and you might just learn something, though I frankly doubt you have that capacity
The tories followed the party line.
The worst government in living memory.
Lets get this over with and move to the more pressing matter of vaccination and the harm its caused.
Vaccination has caused very little harm.
What are you on about?
The questionnaires seem to be asking the right questions. Who are they?
I hope all the law breakers are brought to justice, n nothing is swept under the carpet.
will it ask why there was a need to grossly exaggerate the death figures (with covid not of covid)?
I notice how they all try to paint themselves in a good light. Why didn’t she resign if it was as bad as she claims or was it because she was happy to go along with the mayhem ?
Mistake? No! Lies, but for what purpose is the answer We the people want an answer to the Why? Money, Kudos, Power, What was all that unnecessary misery and harm to the economy created for. Is our Government corrupted?
I recall a student in Nottingham, who had a party during lockdown. The fine for that was thousands but, the government, for Partygate, were supposed to pay a measly £50 each, and they are millionaires, unlike the student. They got away with it then, they'll just get a slap on the wrist and laugh it off. £50 to these rats, is nothing, but to us mortals, the old and sick, £50 is a lot. Especially in this economic crisis. Where is the justice?. You couldn't make all this
up. Maybe they'll have another Slow Worm cabernet meeting to discuss, how they can save themselves, that's all they are clearly bothered about.
If so - Downing Street failed to respect all the guidances and rules laid down - why for instance , is Cummings still being pilloried and vilified when he had a genuine exempting family emergency which Boris , typically , now denies ?
One thing we've learned from all the 'pandemic partying,' next time they tell us it's a deadly contagious disease, we'll know that they know they are lying!
And THAT is the greatest damage these corrupt self serving Tories have committed - utterly destroyed any trust in their governance now and in the future! NEVER vote Tory again!!!!
I’d love to hear a vaccine enquiry.
The insanity of the rules seems to have avoided the enquiry and many in the country. Rules that made no difference other than to cost other lives, livelihoods and mental health, there was no thought or money aimed at actions that could make a difference, just ridiculous rule after rule.
Is there not a conspiracy site you can go to?
Irrelevant, they made the rules and everyone had to follow them. Thanks for your insightful comment though.
@@Paul-eb4jpYeah, like the Cochrane-site, or any site publishing Randomized Controlled Trials.
Or the Swedish governments covid-statistics site...
@@Paul-eb4jp Please provide the empirical evidence that the "rules" made any significant difference to the final outcome. Other than destroying the economy, peoples' mental health, and massively increasing NHS waiting lists, with a resulting increase in excess deaths.
@@Paul-eb4jp I hope you are up to date with your boosters
Johnson should certainly shoulder his share of the blame, but to watch this shower of misfits, who were running Britain at he time, jumping into the lifeboat and trying to distance themselves from him by crying, "It weren't me guv', it were 'im over there", is quite sickening.
Clapping the nhs😅 what a big joke and an excuse,using and abusing the public. Yet some tuned in and clapped.
it's tough being posh in the UK
They didn't follow the rules because they knew it was all a scam and the country should never have been locked down. Some of us who could actually think for ourselves saw this charade early on and refused all of the clot shots. Thank God. 🙏
Lie.
@@sisuguillam5109 Yes it was all a lie that's why they didn't follow the rules. Glad we agree 👍
If Sunak was in party then how come he is still PM
While they were partying, I was sent to my room by the police.
There were eight people in this huge hotel (essential workers).
We sat in a wide-spaced circle, having a beer and mulling over the day’s work.
Then we were raided by the police, and sent to our rooms like naughty bous.
While MPs were having a party.
A pox on their parliament.
R
The Party Is Over