the language used in an environment directly impacts the professional culture, this is business culture/ethics 101. The fact these neanderthals were using abusive language to each other without restraint indicates a more br*thel-level culture than a stable government culture forged over centuries
How the f..k could you make Britain better?, with this shower at the helm, a laughing stock, the whole world now knows what standards the brits have, to be a politician in that circus of a country.
I know people say this about every PM they don’t like but Boris Johnson fits the description of narcissistic personality disorder to tee and has most of the recognised clinical signs of a sociopath. I would suggest there’s a high chance we elected a mentally Ill guy and wrote off his episodes as quirks.
Why is it even thought that running a government via WhatsApp is in any way acceptable? What happened to the requirement to retain. And archive government communications?
Too easily destroyed, thus, has been much worse than the past method of keeping and archiving what they like and destroying or "classifying" what they couldn't destroy
@@robba1234 In between destruction and archiving lies the "memory hole," a hidden chamber in the basement of Downing Street which was "discovered" in the Cameron years during the search for the missing file on paedophiles in parliament. At the time we were told it would take a civil servant with security clearance several years to catalogue the contents. I have heard nothing more about the project - did Boris just have the whole thing torched? Then there are the secret stores in the countryside where records of colonial atrocities and other skullduggery are kept away from the National Archives.
I really don't understand it either, I've worked on secure government projects and had we used private messaging services for government business while on those contracts we would have been fired instantly and possibly prosecuted. Why is it OK for ministers use such systems that are literally designed have features that make them non-recordable. It is really bizarre and inexplicable.
I really hope there will persons brought to justice for criminal neglect of duty and mismanagement during the pandemic, seeing what is emerging from Covid Inquiry regarding the 10 Dowing Street culture and total disregard for the nation health, persons must be brought to book and punished in the courts. R.
Not long ago this story surfaced on him. At Eton, he lobbied hard for the part of Hamlet. Didn't turn up to rehearsals, was reading his lines off the book onstage! 🙀@@Gibson1976uk
She is as bad as the rest of them. Was she so concerned when she brought in her karaoke machine? to party with them?. She has nothing to say that i care to hear. Yeah Bravo Helen for partying with these monsters while people lay dying gasping for breath. She showed her colours.
It wasn't Incompetence Gregrot ,It was All on Purpose ,And if only. Millions had had more Common sense they would have seen through all the B.S ,And unfortunately there's Thousands in this country alone have paid a very high Price .
The commonality they all have in that roo, No.10 and No.11? Public schools, we let a bunch of public school nihilists, capture the government, and civil service.
It absolutely makes my blood boil, while we were all imprisoned in our own homes these billheads were laughing at as all and ignoring their own rules. I hope they are made to pay for it all but I suspect the old boys act will protect them!
Oh they will pay if the public ever find out who they are. This woman has four young kids. One day they’re gonna get bullied for this. Hopefully to the point where they question if they should go on. And then their mother will finally face justice.
When hearing about Cummings and Johnson "relationship", I can't help thinking about Blackadder & Prince Regent. Looks like this lady was one of the few adults in the room.
They should do an enquiry into the Brexit deal 😅 and how things were going in Dec 2020 with those negotiations in reality. Say macron in France knew exactly what to do to get a messed up deal, with these chancers in charge.
they say they used domion servers and they fiddled the count and still lost , they recon 75 percent wanted to leave ,,,,,, wait till trump 2020 and 2022 comes to light how they stole it all connected
I hope she does not end up carrying the can: she has not always acted well, but she was only the monkey, not the organ grinder, and she has some dignity.
Another observation I made is that when those words were read out on Tuesday, there was a horrified gasp from the Inquiry President. In any ordinary operation, that was Gross Misconduct.
obsession with the language just shows you’re not focused on the mortal issues that were there at the time … you’re trivializing as you trivialize everything 😊
It appears this is all about the Government, their incompetence and how they implemented / flouted all the rules and guidelines. It has, and probably, never actually deal with if the rules and guidelines were ever needed. The rushed vaccine and big Pharma contracts and immunity will not be touched. This is just reality tv where people slag each other off for the entertainment of equally nasty people.
@englishcitystone1663 I have a family member who was a civil servant at the Foreign office at the time. They said he was a nightmare because he never read his briefings.
Listening to Helen MacNamara's account from her time in the misogynist, self serving culture of Johnson's government, trying to do the best that she could without danger of losing her job, all to say is 'thank God for women like her who have thoughts of care for the electorate of the U.K. and in times such as this, taking the stand and finally being able to speak her mind without ridicule.
Not really what I want from a covid enquiry. Tell me why they felt safe breaking the rules and having parties when they presumably thought covid was extremely dangerous?
Correct this sort of thing only happened in the UK well I say UK I mean England what Rotters but Luckily it didn’t happen elsewhere Have a Great Day be Lucky Kumbaya.
Ask her salary...im pretty sure ibwouldnt mind working for it if it meant being useless and having naughty words thrown at me. They really do live in an absurd bubble
In this day and age it is absolutely disgusting and totally unacceptable that women, even in positions of responsibility have to put up with this horrible work environment!!! You might wonder how these men speak to their partners behind close doors?
I would say that it's totally unacceptable behaviour towards any employee. Typical old school stile of management, which explains so much of what is wrong with the notion that only they have the right to rule Britain. The class system exposed once agsin as heroes (The NHS and the rest of the front line services) led by donkeys.
Look at this woman sitting here all demure like butter wouldn't melt she never mentioned this to anyone in parliament at the time now she's complaining that he called her some horrible names
This woman has not once called Boris Johnson. The interviewer was trying to lead the woman, but she did not fall for it. Dominic Cummings, though, didn't escape her criticism of abusive language and what sounded like bullying.
To be fair to the man, Johnson was no worse as P.M.. than he had been as Foreign Secretary - or Mayor of London. An example of ambition outstripping ability.
People were supposedly dying, if arses needed to be kicked so what, they are more worried about hurt feelings becuse they were incapable of doing theirs jobs correctly than the people they were supposed to help. Its a grown up world if they cannot handle it they should find themselves a job more suitable to thier weak nature.
No they were not, hospitals were cleared for covid patients, the elderly and the sick were pushed into care homes with the knowledge the infection would spread amongst them. Do you know why they know it was wrong, becuse the report into swine flu said it was a mistake not to be repeated.
I understand Boris's wife stuck her nose in on a few occasions. I'am sure her Knowledge was a great help to her husband on what course of action to take..
Unfortunately, having worked as an IT contractor over the years, in usually very male dominated working environments, I have to that this sort of foul, intimidatory language is very far from uncommon.
Dont firget folks the civil servants were still sulking over Brexit and l believe they would have worked against any gov that was for it. I must admit l used choice words to describe some of them .! Overall l am ashamed of most of the politicians in our country. No abusive name could be strong enough to describe how incompetent they turned out after not having the EU to blame. They all lost leadership to that. We see you all now
Almost certain you'd find the answers very boring. I imagine they're primarily writing up logs, notes, maybe even a bit of live fact-checking, maybe sending some e-mails, that sort of thing? And no, I don't mean to Putin. 🙄
Johnson was nothing to do with the toxic culture, what you’re referring to is the Tory party, it’s been toxic for years. British politics is toxic, Labour Party no different I’m afraid.
Johnson didn't allow the toxic culture in 10 Downing Street, he was the toxic culture ! To use an ancient Roman proverb that Johnson, with his cod Latin, might be aware of : " A fish rots from the head down"
SO THIS WOMAN STILL STAYED IN JOB WITH ALL THE SOCALLED ABUSE WITHOUT MAKING IT KNOWN AT THE TIME IT WAS HAPPENING. VERY CONVIENIANT FOR HER. ALL COMING OUT THE WOODWORK NOW TO GET BORIS.?
They are All running scared..... Brilliant 🎉
@@PhilMcAuleywhatever you say
I'm more concerned about the incompetence and outright lies which are coming to light, rather than the language used.
the language used in an environment directly impacts the professional culture, this is business culture/ethics 101. The fact these neanderthals were using abusive language to each other without restraint indicates a more br*thel-level culture than a stable government culture forged over centuries
Yes. This is an attempt to build a strawman.
Bang on.
Everything else, is pure deflection from the truth.
Aww, Hurty words .....give me strength , it's a joke ..
Yes, we’ve all see The Thick of It, so we know how disgusting their speech is. It’s what they did and didn’t do I want to hear
as soon as Johnson became PM he lost all interest in the job, it had nothing to do with making the UK better it was all about Johnsons self promotion
How the f..k could you make Britain better?, with this shower at the helm, a laughing stock, the whole world now knows what standards the brits have, to be a politician in that circus of a country.
A repeat of when he became Mayor of London.
Like Trump, he just wanted the title and the trappings of the job and none of the responsibility. Textbook grandiose narcissism.
And buddy's.
I know people say this about every PM they don’t like but Boris Johnson fits the description of narcissistic personality disorder to tee and has most of the recognised clinical signs of a sociopath. I would suggest there’s a high chance we elected a mentally Ill guy and wrote off his episodes as quirks.
Why is it even thought that running a government via WhatsApp is in any way acceptable?
What happened to the requirement to retain. And archive government communications?
Too easily destroyed, thus, has been much worse than the past method of keeping and archiving what they like and destroying or "classifying" what they couldn't destroy
People won't even accept that they were lied to about vaccine efficacy. Even the words of the people making bank at the time won't change that.
@@robba1234 In between destruction and archiving lies the "memory hole," a hidden chamber in the basement of Downing Street which was "discovered" in the Cameron years during the search for the missing file on paedophiles in parliament. At the time we were told it would take a civil servant with security clearance several years to catalogue the contents. I have heard nothing more about the project - did Boris just have the whole thing torched? Then there are the secret stores in the countryside where records of colonial atrocities and other skullduggery are kept away from the National Archives.
I really don't understand it either, I've worked on secure government projects and had we used private messaging services for government business while on those contracts we would have been fired instantly and possibly prosecuted. Why is it OK for ministers use such systems that are literally designed have features that make them non-recordable. It is really bizarre and inexplicable.
I really hope there will persons brought to justice for criminal neglect of duty and mismanagement during the pandemic, seeing what is emerging from Covid Inquiry regarding the 10 Dowing Street culture and total disregard for the nation health, persons must be brought to book and punished in the courts. R.
The guy asking the questions is first class.
Johnson basically thought being pm was like being the head boy ar eaton
Spot on and then lost interest
Not long ago this story surfaced on him. At Eton, he lobbied hard for the part of Hamlet. Didn't turn up to rehearsals, was reading his lines off the book onstage! 🙀@@Gibson1976uk
Remarkably poised testimony - bravo Helen
...hear, hear.
She is as bad as the rest of them. Was she so concerned when she brought in her karaoke machine? to party with them?. She has nothing to say that i care to hear. Yeah Bravo Helen for partying with these monsters while people lay dying gasping for breath. She showed her colours.
The light paper will give you more understanding of what is going on.
What a contrast to yesterday. The professionalism stands out.
It wasn't Incompetence Gregrot ,It was All on Purpose ,And if only. Millions had had more Common sense they would have seen through all the B.S ,And unfortunately there's Thousands in this country alone have paid a very high Price .
Callous doesn't begin to describe these sociopaths!
The commonality they all have in that roo, No.10 and No.11? Public schools, we let a bunch of public school nihilists, capture the government, and civil service.
The whole party are as guilty as each other they all voted for him then backed him
It absolutely makes my blood boil, while we were all imprisoned in our own homes these billheads were laughing at as all and ignoring their own rules. I hope they are made to pay for it all but I suspect the old boys act will protect them!
Oh they will pay if the public ever find out who they are. This woman has four young kids. One day they’re gonna get bullied for this. Hopefully to the point where they question if they should go on. And then their mother will finally face justice.
A complete manipulation of the public and it was easy
That's rather unkind, what have her kids done to deserve that. Don't say things like that, you sound like a Tory.@@jaybee4288
And let’s not kid ourselves that it is any better now.
When hearing about Cummings and Johnson "relationship", I can't help thinking about Blackadder & Prince Regent. Looks like this lady was one of the few adults in the room.
All of them-Crimes against humanity
He didn’t just allow a toxic culture, Boris encouraged it, working on divide and rule
That threat of physical violence is, in Law, assault. Had he proceeded with it, battery. Both are crimes.
@@PhilMcAuley A rougher time from that pair of gonzos.
They should do an enquiry into the Brexit deal 😅 and how things were going in Dec 2020 with those negotiations in reality. Say macron in France knew exactly what to do to get a messed up deal, with these chancers in charge.
they say they used domion servers and they fiddled the count and still lost , they recon 75 percent wanted to leave ,,,,,, wait till trump 2020 and 2022 comes to light how they stole it all connected
They are all guilty
Do remember Rishi Sunak was part of all this!
Johnson should be jailed.
I hope she does not end up carrying the can: she has not always acted well, but she was only the monkey, not the organ grinder, and she has some dignity.
I disagree with the headline. It wasn't merely that he allowed it rather he presided over and promoted it.
Another observation I made is that when those words were read out on Tuesday, there was a horrified gasp from the Inquiry President. In any ordinary operation, that was Gross Misconduct.
obsession with the language just shows you’re not focused on the mortal issues that were there at the time … you’re trivializing as you trivialize everything 😊
Rats fighting in a sack.
It appears this is all about the Government, their incompetence and how they implemented / flouted all the rules and guidelines. It has, and probably, never actually deal with if the rules and guidelines were ever needed. The rushed vaccine and big Pharma contracts and immunity will not be touched. This is just reality tv where people slag each other off for the entertainment of equally nasty people.
why are no arrests being made
And why is anyone surprised? All Tories should be deeply ashamed that they allowed this man to lead them.
Wasn't it the British people voting him into office?
Rat's the lot of them. Corruption & Greed.
You got what you voted for well done tory voters
It makes you wonder just what it was like when Johnson was London Mayor.
Or foreign secretary
@willowtree9291 According to former ambassador, he was a joke in ours and several other countries.
@englishcitystone1663 I have a family member who was a civil servant at the Foreign office at the time. They said he was a nightmare because he never read his briefings.
His father is a depopulationist
@@willowtree9291 My source is a neighbour, lucky guy is now retired!
Listening to Helen MacNamara's account from her time in the misogynist, self serving culture of Johnson's government, trying to do the best that she could without danger of losing her job, all to say is 'thank God for women like her who have thoughts of care for the electorate of the U.K. and in times such as this, taking the stand and finally being able to speak her mind without ridicule.
I agree 💯 %
Thei is when Etonian culture stands above any state's laws and rules....
Not really what I want from a covid enquiry. Tell me why they felt safe breaking the rules and having parties when they presumably thought covid was extremely dangerous?
Correct this sort of thing only happened in the UK well I say UK I mean England what Rotters but Luckily it didn’t happen elsewhere Have a Great Day be Lucky Kumbaya.
Ask her salary...im pretty sure ibwouldnt mind working for it if it meant being useless and having naughty words thrown at me. They really do live in an absurd bubble
Wait, the Cabinet Secretary was saying what about COVID-19 and chicken pox parties?
In this day and age it is absolutely disgusting and totally unacceptable that women, even in positions of responsibility have to put up with this horrible work environment!!!
You might wonder how these men speak to their partners behind close doors?
I would say that it's totally unacceptable behaviour towards any employee. Typical old school stile of management, which explains so much of what is wrong with the notion that only they have the right to rule Britain. The class system exposed once agsin as heroes (The NHS and the rest of the front line services) led by donkeys.
Wow. It sounds just like NZ and the horse factor
Look at this woman sitting here all demure like butter wouldn't melt she never mentioned this to anyone in parliament at the time now she's complaining that he called her some horrible names
Only Theatre folks
This woman has not once called Boris Johnson. The interviewer was trying to lead the woman, but she did not fall for it. Dominic Cummings, though, didn't escape her criticism of abusive language and what sounded like bullying.
So what happened to the second witness today?
To be fair to the man, Johnson was no worse as P.M.. than he had been as Foreign Secretary - or Mayor of London. An example of ambition outstripping ability.
Where’s Sunak’s WhatsApp messages ??? 🏴✊✊
The service is America owned.
People were supposedly dying, if arses needed to be kicked so what, they are more worried about hurt feelings becuse they were incapable of doing theirs jobs correctly than the people they were supposed to help. Its a grown up world if they cannot handle it they should find themselves a job more suitable to thier weak nature.
"Supposedly?"
No they were dying reality check.
No they were not, hospitals were cleared for covid patients, the elderly and the sick were pushed into care homes with the knowledge the infection would spread amongst them. Do you know why they know it was wrong, becuse the report into swine flu said it was a mistake not to be repeated.
funny names - Johnson, Hancock, and Cummungs... nothing like a good play
Johnson and Trump - a pair of gruesome bookends. Can their synchronised, contemptible similarities be purely coincidental?
I understand Boris's wife stuck her nose in on a few occasions. I'am sure her Knowledge was a great help to her husband on what course of action to take..
Unfortunately, having worked as an IT contractor over the years, in usually very male dominated working environments, I have to that this sort of foul, intimidatory language is very far from uncommon.
They don't come much more toxic than Cummins
@@PhilMcAuley Maybe, l wouldn't know, nor do l care. He's a nasty creep and we all know it.
When president not hear her own people,just follow order from hidden bos Its danger n more tragic for future
Dont firget folks the civil servants were still sulking over Brexit and l believe they would have worked against any gov that was for it. I must admit l used choice words to describe some of them .! Overall l am ashamed of most of the politicians in our country. No abusive name could be strong enough to describe how incompetent they turned out after not having the EU to blame. They all lost leadership to that. We see you all now
I’d love to know what all those (paid) people are doing in the background fiddling around on computers
Almost certain you'd find the answers very boring. I imagine they're primarily writing up logs, notes, maybe even a bit of live fact-checking, maybe sending some e-mails, that sort of thing? And no, I don't mean to Putin. 🙄
Remember people…. Never trust a Narc
Johnson was nothing to do with the toxic culture, what you’re referring to is the Tory party, it’s been toxic
for years. British politics is toxic, Labour Party no different I’m afraid.
Get Brexit Done
So the muppet puppets were lost in space.
Johnson didn't allow the toxic culture in 10 Downing Street, he was the toxic culture !
To use an ancient Roman proverb that Johnson, with his cod Latin, might be aware of : " A fish rots from the head down"
SO THIS WOMAN STILL STAYED IN JOB WITH ALL THE SOCALLED ABUSE WITHOUT MAKING IT KNOWN AT THE TIME IT WAS HAPPENING. VERY CONVIENIANT FOR HER. ALL COMING OUT THE WOODWORK NOW TO GET BORIS.?
As I have said, the social, political and civil consequences of the eclipse of 'Steam-Age man'
Cummings,you can take the man out of bernard castle, but you can't take bernard castle out of the man.